I do work in C, C++, and Perl as well as several other languages. But when it comes to CGI scripts, big and small. Perl is definately my favorite choice.
There are actually several reasons for choosing Perl. Text processing is infinately better in Perl than in C or C++. And if you notice, most of your work done in CGI programs are processing text. In some sort or another. Like this form I'm filling out right now.
Another reason is that great CGI module (which I seem to only use param from) which makes handling most CGI related things trivial, and allows you to do real work. Oh and don't forget the
print<<"END_OF_BLOCK" Being able to send preformatted text like this is very cool, it eliminates most of the messy print statements in Perl as well as other languages. It's also much nicer to read because formatting is very clear. END_OF_BLOCK
Anyways.... Don't forget that you don't have to compile perl. That way when you make you quick change it will be updated immidiately. I've forgotten to compile my C and C++ programs so many times it isn't even funny anymore.
I do work in C, C++, and Perl as well as several other languages. But when it comes to CGI scripts, big and small. Perl is definately my favorite choice.
There are actually several reasons for choosing Perl. Text processing is infinately better in Perl than in C or C++. And if you notice, most of your work done in CGI programs are processing text. In some sort or another. Like this form I'm filling out right now.
Another reason is that great CGI module (which I seem to only use param from) which makes handling most CGI related things trivial, and allows you to do real work. Oh and don't forget the print\\"END_OF_BLOCK" Being able to send preformatted text like this is very cool, it eliminates most of the messy print statements in Perl as well as other languages. It's also much nicer to read because formatting is very clear. END_OF_BLOCK
Anyways.... Don't forget that you don't have to compile perl. That way when you make you quick change it will be updated immidiately. I've forgotten to compile my C and C++ programs so many times it isn't even funny anymore.
Since there really aren't any alternatives with the pointer/windows/desktop enviroment which is probably the most easy to use. It would probably be easier for you to help your grandfather become more familiar.
Have your grandfather play solitaire for several days. This will definately make him a better solitaire player, as well as teach him how the mouse works, how drag-n-drop works, how menus and dialog buttons, and buttons, etc.
You might also want to change the accessibility options which would allow single click instead of double click instead.
I rarely hear anything good about dselect, and your no exception. But with Debian, dselect is a necessary evil. It does have a steep learning curve, the keys make no sense, dependency errors come up with nearly every package. But it's not too bad.
Gnome-apt looks very nice, however it is sometimes not practical to install packages in X.
It is very true that RH is helping the free software/open source caused greatly. But they're are fears that RH is more interested in profit then in "the cause."
You should be able to trust packages which come from Debian servers, and their mirrors. However I guess some mirror somewhere might replace a package with a hacked version or something like that. Packages are pgp/gpg signed by their maintainer before they are excepted, so assuming you trust the Debian developer, you can trust the package.
Packages have their md5sum calculated and the total is stored in the Packages file as well as the deb. IIRC I believe they must match exactly.
Apt allows you to specify other sources for packages, and should definately be used at your own risk.
You would of had a easier time simply upgrading all the way to potato. Basically installing stuff from another Debian version is not smart, and definately not recommended. Debian Potato works just fine with glibc2.1, and only very few packages still need to be rebuilt.
What is more important? Installation or Maintainability. I choose maintainability. How often do you need to install linux? Hopefully not very many. I'd rather have a system that runs, and let me upgrade without any problems. That's why I run Debian.
Package management is definately Debian's strongest point. You can upgrade from each release without much problems. This might be more difficult in other distributions.
First of all why did Debian want a new logo? IMHO I believe it is because Debian is now no longer just a Linux distribution, it is porting the Debian system to GNU/Hurd. Secondly they were hoping for a better looking logo which would do well on their webpages, and in printed medium, at true-color, 8-bit, and grey-scale. Also a new logo would be released under a new Logo license (don't know what the license says though:)
So the Logo team picked 5 choices from the those submitted to the gimp contest. And the best way to choose is to analyze all and see which one best fits Debian's needs.
Q: Overall impression.
Option 1 (jeanette): What does an ant have to do with Debian? Maybe the idea of a community working together for the common good of the community as a whole.
Option 2 (raul): Now I am confused. What's the spiral have to do with anything? And what's with that genie bottle. Maybe this. By opening up the Debian Genie bottle, your going to be able to make your dreams come true by using Debian. (I know that was lame, I couldn't think of any other reason.)
Option 3 (villate): It's "debian's seal of approval." Hahaha. I didn't find it that funny.
Option 4 (guatamnlad): The big D. You can definately see the D for debian and the L for linux. And in the offical there is the shadow of a gnu. Nice and simple
Option 5 (Captain blue-eys): The old logo, nice and simple.
Q: What's wrong with them?
Option 1: Ant doesn't have much to do with Debian.
Option 2: The spiral hasn't got much to do with Debian. Looks a lot like other company logos.
Option 3: The spiral doesn't have much to do with Debian. The logo shouldn't look very good at 8-bit or grey scale.
Option 4: The logo won't look good at 8-bit or grey scale. Will we be able to see the D and the L. Will we be able to see the GNU is the background? Limits its use with GNU/Hurd.
Option 5: He's just old. We needs to be retired. No Hurd support.
Q: What's right with them.
Option 1: Not many colors, so it will look good with any number of colors. Very original.
Option 2: Simple, will look good at any number of colors. I find it just interesting.
Option 3: Looks really nice on a web page. The Seal holding up the earth was a cute idea. (Linux holding up the world.)
Option 4: Nice and simple. Looks great on a web page.
Option 5: It worked so far, why do we need to change?
Q: What do I like? I guess if I had to choose I'd take Option 2. Nice and simple. The spiral just seems interesting. Also will allow the debian logo to be moved around. May the spiral on the left with Debian in a larger point font to the right.
Option 4 is nice, but the same can be said about all of them. That's why they are here. I don't generally like a single Letter (even if there'r really two in there:). I'm just wonder how it looks in black and white, for text documents and such. Will the L show up?
I'd change it to greyscale, if I had the time, but I don't. I personally like 2. The swirl is simple and eligant, doesn't say much though, but look at the Gnome Foot. I think the swirl looks nice even without the debian below.
Definately Raul's is the best. I like Captain blue-eyes to, but ince Debian is no longer just a Linux distribution. Raul's will keep the Hurd porters happy:)
Now only if I can vote. Who knows when my application will go through.
IMHO most people who use debian don't like dselect. I know I don't like it, but it is a necessity. It is still better then using dpkg or rpm to install packages. If your running 2.1 you get apt which does a better job the dpkg.
Your friend is right. Debian does need a bootable cd-rom. Oh well, something to put in 2.2 I guess.
1.) Read manpage 2.) Check documentation 3.) Search on Dejanews 4.) Ask a good question with a good subject line to the appropriate news group. Don't ask for replies by email. They'll email you if they want to.
5.) Check for an answer on a regular basis. 6.) If you don't get an answer either no one knows or everyone thinks your a jerk and doesn't want to answer
Installation is one of the hardest parts, and often most people need some help installing. And it was great that their was someone to help you install. But a difference between you and the "stupid users" are they don't know where to go. All they do is pop in the RH cd into the cdrom and their installed in a matter of minutes. "Thinking gee whiz, this was easy. So how do you play solitaire?"
A lot of "gurus" are just tired of "How do I get my winmodem working?" questions. Which can simply be answered by doing a search on dejanews.
I wish I could do that. But until I get a new computer, and until Linux has better games. I will be forced to live with a fourth rate OS. At least I can spend most of my time in Linux.
People need to learn how to use patch. I'm sure you do, but all those newbies. It would also help if the ftp mirrors were able to get the patches sooner.
Slashdot Mirror
I do work in C, C++, and Perl as well as several other languages. But when it comes to CGI scripts, big and small. Perl is definately my favorite choice.
There are actually several reasons for choosing Perl. Text processing is infinately better in Perl than in C or C++. And if you notice, most of your work done in CGI programs are processing text. In some sort or another. Like this form I'm filling out right now.
Another reason is that great CGI module (which I seem to only use param from) which makes handling most CGI related things trivial, and allows you to do real work. Oh and don't forget the
print<<"END_OF_BLOCK"
Being able to send preformatted text like this is very cool, it eliminates most of the messy print statements in Perl as well as other languages. It's also much nicer to read because formatting is very clear.
END_OF_BLOCK
Anyways.... Don't forget that you don't have to compile perl. That way when you make you quick change it will be updated immidiately. I've forgotten to compile my C and C++ programs so many times it isn't even funny anymore.
I do work in C, C++, and Perl as well as several other languages. But when it comes to CGI scripts, big and small. Perl is definately my favorite choice.
There are actually several reasons for choosing Perl. Text processing is infinately better in Perl than in C or C++. And if you notice, most of your work done in CGI programs are processing text. In some sort or another. Like this form I'm filling out right now.
Another reason is that great CGI module (which I seem to only use param from) which makes handling most CGI related things trivial, and allows you to do real work. Oh and don't forget the
print\\"END_OF_BLOCK"
Being able to send preformatted text like this is very cool, it eliminates most of the messy print statements in Perl as well as other languages. It's also much nicer to read because formatting is very clear.
END_OF_BLOCK
Anyways.... Don't forget that you don't have to compile perl. That way when you make you quick change it will be updated immidiately. I've forgotten to compile my C and C++ programs so many times it isn't even funny anymore.
Since there really aren't any alternatives with the pointer/windows/desktop enviroment which is probably the most easy to use. It would probably be easier for you to help your grandfather become more familiar.
Have your grandfather play solitaire for several days. This will definately make him a better solitaire player, as well as teach him how the mouse works, how drag-n-drop works, how menus and dialog buttons, and buttons, etc.
You might also want to change the accessibility options which would allow single click instead of double click instead.
This is probably just a publicity stunt by transmeta. They'll probably debut with their "vaporware" product in 2000.
Though it would be nice to actually know what they are actually doing.
Q3 as in 3rd quarter? or Q3 as in Quake 3.
I think it's the second one.
I rarely hear anything good about dselect, and your no exception. But with Debian, dselect is a necessary evil. It does have a steep learning curve, the keys make no sense, dependency errors come up with nearly every package. But it's not too bad.
Gnome-apt looks very nice, however it is sometimes not practical to install packages in X.
It is very true that RH is helping the free software/open source caused greatly. But they're are fears that RH is more interested in profit then in "the cause."
You should be able to trust packages which come from Debian servers, and their mirrors. However I guess some mirror somewhere might replace a package with a hacked version or something like that. Packages are pgp/gpg signed by their maintainer before they are excepted, so assuming you trust the Debian developer, you can trust the package.
Packages have their md5sum calculated and the total is stored in the Packages file as well as the deb. IIRC I believe they must match exactly.
Apt allows you to specify other sources for packages, and should definately be used at your own risk.
You would of had a easier time simply upgrading all the way to potato. Basically installing stuff from another Debian version is not smart, and definately not recommended. Debian Potato works just fine with glibc2.1, and only very few packages still need to be rebuilt.
What is more important? Installation or Maintainability. I choose maintainability. How often do you need to install linux? Hopefully not very many. I'd rather have a system that runs, and let me upgrade without any problems. That's why I run Debian.
Package management is definately Debian's strongest point. You can upgrade from each release without much problems. This might be more difficult in other distributions.
Perhaps this is why I use Debian?
It was most likely added in Potato. Apt was updated, with a lot of new features.
:)
First of all why did Debian want a new logo? :)
IMHO I believe it is because Debian is now no longer just a Linux distribution, it is porting the Debian system to GNU/Hurd. Secondly they were hoping for a better looking logo which would do well on their webpages, and in printed medium, at true-color, 8-bit, and grey-scale. Also a new logo would be released under a new Logo license (don't know what the license says though
So the Logo team picked 5 choices from the those submitted to the gimp contest. And the best way to choose is to analyze all and see which one best fits Debian's needs.
Q: Overall impression.
Option 1 (jeanette):
What does an ant have to do with Debian? Maybe the idea of a community working together for the common good of the community as a whole.
Option 2 (raul):
Now I am confused. What's the spiral have to do with anything? And what's with that genie bottle. Maybe this. By opening up the Debian Genie bottle, your going to be able to make your dreams come true by using Debian. (I know that was lame, I couldn't think of any other reason.)
Option 3 (villate):
It's "debian's seal of approval." Hahaha. I didn't find it that funny.
Option 4 (guatamnlad):
The big D. You can definately see the D for debian and the L for linux. And in the offical there is the shadow of a gnu. Nice and simple
Option 5 (Captain blue-eys):
The old logo, nice and simple.
Q: What's wrong with them?
Option 1:
Ant doesn't have much to do with Debian.
Option 2:
The spiral hasn't got much to do with Debian. Looks a lot like other company logos.
Option 3:
The spiral doesn't have much to do with Debian. The logo shouldn't look very good at 8-bit or grey scale.
Option 4:
The logo won't look good at 8-bit or grey scale. Will we be able to see the D and the L. Will we be able to see the GNU is the background? Limits its use with GNU/Hurd.
Option 5:
He's just old. We needs to be retired. No Hurd support.
Q: What's right with them.
Option 1:
Not many colors, so it will look good with any number of colors. Very original.
Option 2:
Simple, will look good at any number of colors. I find it just interesting.
Option 3:
Looks really nice on a web page. The Seal holding up the earth was a cute idea. (Linux holding up the world.)
Option 4:
Nice and simple. Looks great on a web page.
Option 5:
It worked so far, why do we need to change?
Q: What do I like?
I guess if I had to choose I'd take Option 2. Nice and simple. The spiral just seems interesting. Also will allow the debian logo to be moved around. May the spiral on the left with Debian in a larger point font to the right.
Just my 2 cents.
Option 4 is nice, but the same can be said about all of them. That's why they are here. I don't generally like a single Letter (even if there'r really two in there :). I'm just wonder how it looks in black and white, for text documents and such. Will the L show up?
:)
I'd change it to greyscale, if I had the time, but I don't. I personally like 2. The swirl is simple and eligant, doesn't say much though, but look at the Gnome Foot. I think the swirl looks nice even without the debian below.
just my $0.02
Definately Raul's is the best. I like Captain blue-eyes to, but ince Debian is no longer just a Linux distribution. Raul's will keep the Hurd porters happy :)
Now only if I can vote. Who knows when my application will go through.
IMHO most people who use debian don't like dselect. I know I don't like it, but it is a necessity. It is still better then using dpkg or rpm to install packages. If your running 2.1 you get apt which does a better job the dpkg.
Your friend is right. Debian does need a bootable cd-rom. Oh well, something to put in 2.2 I guess.
Most of these people don't seem to read them.
1.) Read manpage
2.) Check documentation
3.) Search on Dejanews
4.) Ask a good question with a good subject line to the appropriate news group. Don't ask for replies by email. They'll email you if they want to.
5.) Check for an answer on a regular basis.
6.) If you don't get an answer either no one knows or everyone thinks your a jerk and doesn't want to answer
That's how the Linux community should be.
Installation is one of the hardest parts, and often most people need some help installing. And it was great that their was someone to help you install. But a difference between you and the "stupid users" are they don't know where to go. All they do is pop in the RH cd into the cdrom and their installed in a matter of minutes. "Thinking gee whiz, this was easy. So how do you play solitaire?"
A lot of "gurus" are just tired of "How do I get my winmodem working?" questions. Which can simply be answered by doing a search on dejanews.
A lot like 2.0 actually. More packages, but installing packages is easier with apt.
I've gotten the same problem from ftp.mozilla.org and every mirror I tried.
I wish I could do that. But until I get a new computer, and until Linux has better games. I will be forced to live with a fourth rate OS. At least I can spend most of my time in Linux.
People need to learn how to use patch. I'm sure you do, but all those newbies. It would also help if the ftp mirrors were able to get the patches sooner.
I had so much fun running scandisk to fix my FAT partition!
It seems to work fine in pre1