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Transmeta Unveiled in November?
terrified writes "This little blurb on Yahoo news this morning says that Linus is hinting at an announcement from Transmeta at the November Comdex in Las Vegas. " We need to set up some pools: When the secret will be revealed, and maybe some sort of pools for what the secret is. Transmeta employees who leak data to me will be given a cut if I win ;)
What? What kind of joke is this/you?
Why don't you hold a contest to see who can come up with the most interesting Transmeta product announcement. My Submission: Transmeta will announce a new fully automated, web accessible home yogurt maker. Funding was provided by Ron Popiel. Linus Torvalds was hired, not because of his computer expertise, but because of this little known fact: he is the world's foremost expert on small batch yogurt production. That's why he has time to work on Linux. They only need him to taste the yogurt.
I've been saying this for ages but nobody believes me.
Just as a general observation, did anyone else find it amusing to see just how strikingly different in nature Linus' day and evening jobs are?
He got famous by starting a completely open project, in a very humble fashion, inviting anyone who felt like it to help turn it into something really useful. Everything in the spirit of cooperation and selflessly making things better for users everywhere. I think we can say he succeeded far beyond what he set out to do and that his work has affected the industry on the whole to no small degree.
Now he's an anchor of one of the most secretive companies in this industry. He can't even say anything about what he's working on or what the company is going to do. We only know the company grabs patents to the left and to the right and we anticipate that it's going to make a big splash someday.
Whether or not that is true remains to be seen, but hiring him was a good move by Transmeta. Legends are the only thing the company has, so far.
So when do they go public? :)
Even better is the line which says:
!-- There are no tyops in this web page. --
So on one hand Linus has a vision, where his focus was on designing Linux for appliances smaller than laptops rather than putting it on desktops, and on the other we have Amiga's Internet appliance plans, not to mention their support for Linux.
Thoughts?
--The more you know, the less you know.
>> What do you want to do now TELL ME!
:)
>> > smell bill
>> BILL GATES smell of POO!!!
>> > shoot bill
But would actually go like:
> shoot bill
With what?
> with gun
Huh?
> shoot bill with gun
Which gun: the pearl handled six shooter gun or the glossy black uzi gun?
> the uzi
Huh?
> sht bill with glossy black uzi gun
I don't understand sht
> shot bill with glossy black uzi gun
The glossy black uzi gun is not loaded
and so on...
:)
-Dana (I miss Infocom!)
Ignorant tyrant. All public knowledge should belong to the public, so that anybody else could implement their ideas for whatever they want. If after buring down Transmeta, we find out that their way to speed is via a self replicating/evolving ALU core(or maybe it just consits of a 100 billion row abacus,) then somebody else would invent use that idea and come out with something better. Of course, we would still need demons like Intel to fab the chips, but by cannot go and milk us since the technology is not exclusive to them.
We're not here to make Andy Grove get a bigger house, we are only here to advance technology of any type for the human race.
Free the information to the world and the world would be free.
"There are no secret messages in the source code to this web page.
There are no tyops in this web page."
-a message in the source of Transmeta's site
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Of course, if we're talking anatomy, they both mean pretty much the same thing.
I don't know about that... I've had at least two good ideas in my lifetime.
I reckon the original idea was brilliant, but a little ahead of its time, they tried to push it, it didnt work, they're frantic trying to get it to work, it isnt working, they need more time, they have found something other than what they started doing which actually does work, now they are going to announce that and it will be pretty good.
>Transmeta is working on something very cool. >.... >Trey
with all the speculation here I reckon this is at least one valid bit of hard information. Although this maybe an 'AC' I reckon the 'id' of this person pretty well matches a person who knows someone currently working at TM.
so those who doubt TM is doing something better read this again. Right TH?
Info:
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Home state: Seattle
Name: Trey
somehoe I doubt they will be able to live up the hype we have created for them.
that they are working on a new hardware platform aimed at server applications. Linus is there to write a highly optimized Linux kernel for this platform.
I am not sure what benefits would come out of a new CPU design, however. Even if it can run different types of binaries, who cares? It is best to have a standard anyway, and if there is a standard, then the app you need is most likely going to be available for it. Maybe they just have some sort of breakthrough in CPU speed in the works, and everything else on the platform to go along with it...
EC
EverCode
I suppose it they are really developing something special, they might need to take awhile to get it right. Still, the scenery has been boring.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
Can you say "this is not a typo" in french? I think the Magritte interpretation, if nothing else, at least gives me a little insight into someones sense of humor (if not necessarily any insight into the product...)
~luge
IAAL,BIANLY
I'm for real, I'm an architecture junkie and sometimes chip monkey
for them.
He asked for entries in the pool for "what they will announce".
My ideas are based on public stuff I've seen on the net, where the bleeding-edge-state-of-the-art is and what I know about the problems they may be trying to solve. I have no special knowledge from behind the transmeta non-reality zone
We're making all the hype. Transmeta is simply saying "We will not tell you what we do until our product is finished." And, in typical slashdot paranoid mentality, people seem to need to infer much more from that simple statement.
I doubt Linus would work for a company that is planning to pull a fast one on investors...if he was looking to make a quick buck, he could have done so with Linux.
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Transmeta and Linus is just a puppet figure in a greater scheme. Read this:
"Torvalds and other people known to be involved with Transmeta, including Microsoft's co-founder Paul Allen and Chief Executive David Ditzel, have been careful not to reveal what the company is up to."
And:
"The combination of money from Microsoft's co-founder and know-how from Torvalds [...]"
(From Roland Moller, Helsinki newsroom +358-9-680 50 242, fax +358-9-680 2284, news@reuters.fi)
Let me see if I can get this straight: Linus went to work in a company that is also funded by Microsoft people, that until today did nothing but let Linus compile kernel code every day so that he can churn out an operating system that is "a serious threat to Microsoft", the very same company whose employees are funding him...
I think that Transmeta was set up by Paul Allen so that Linus could work on his Linux to artificially create competition to Microsoft, just so that they can claim they do have serious competition... (I doubt Paul Allen gave his money just to bet on both horses in this race.) Clever, if you ask me.
Isn't it interesting that until Linus joined Transmeta, hardly anybody heard about Linux, and a year after he did that, we see Linux on practically every computer store's shelves?...
Just food for thought.
| | |_/\_|_/\_ lala@interaccess.com '/~~\'/~~\ http://surf.to/lala
I was there. It was yesterday and yes, Transmeta did come up several times... the first question out of the audience after Linus spoke was "what does Transmeta do?"
Some crazy woman wanted to ask Linus something: She started talking about how information technology could be used for monitoring people and stealing their freedom. THEN she started claiming that in the '50's 3 million people had been implanted with a MICROCHIP (a microchip in the 50's!) and that just last week she spoke with a colonel who had refused a microchip. Then she furiously went on saying that soon all babies will be implanted and in the future it will be possible to remotely read anyone's thoughts with such a chip. At this point the audience was laughing their asses off. To this Linus simply replied, "well that was kind of an UFO talk, but.. I can' really reveal what Transmeta is doing (laughter from audience), but anyways, I think information technology will actually help people gain more freedom'
Later on someone was talking about how technology can help us to talk to old or sick people who can no longer talk, to which Linus replied 'talking to the dead, you mean?'. Then one of the panelists said 'Now I REALLY want to know what Transmeta is doing'
This is done in a bit of haste, sorry...
No new revelations of the mysterious Transmeta
Creator of the Linux Operating System, Linus Torvalds's employes creates some questions: Nobody knows what it does. Torvalds made one revelation to Tietoviikko today: He revealed when he will reveal what Transmeat does. The schedule for the announcement will be told in the Comdex trade show in mid-November.
No further information on Torvald's mysterious employes has spread to public. Transmeta has been suspected for example to be working on a highly efficient microprocessor. Or some other groundbreaking program. Transmeta's homepage at www.transmeta.com doesn't offer too many hints - not even in the source code for the page, which points out that there are no revelations on Transmeta there.
"My strongest guess is that Transmeta doesn't do anything", said Risto Siilasmaa, the CEO of information security company Data Fellows in the Information Society seminar held in Helsinki University on Wednesday. One possibility is that Transmeta's employees just hang around in their work place, and then sell the hyped-up company onwards for a good price.
Philosopher Pekka Himanen, who also spoke at the Information Society seminary told that he has visited the front of Transmeta's office. The office building has darkened glasses and doesn't let visitors in.
Linus Torvalds placed his words carefully in Thurday on Transmeta announcements. "I can only say now that we will announce the schedule for the announcement at Comdex, but this can also be subject to changes", Torvalds said cryptically.
(Translated from http://www.tietoviikko.c om/cgi-bin/lueuutinen.cgi?id=45382)
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Midgard Project - Open Source CMS
Their findings, scheduled to be released in November, reveal much about human interaction as it relates to the above factors, and is entitled, "Gullibility: We Can't Believe You Retards Fell For It!"
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"I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader
They might have come up with a chip (or chips) that can actually run multiple different microcode sets at the same time. The benefit here would be that the consumer wouldn't have to switch between different microcode and reboot machines everytime they wanted to use something else. They'd be able to run multiple OSs at the same time, ala VMWARE.
Part of the Alpha chipset was named EV after Electric Vlastic (sp?), a phenomenon in which passing a large current through certain pickle made it glow an eerye green.
:)
I read this a long time ago, and I cant remember where, so it MUST be true
-Yarn - Rio Karma: Excellent
"But would you really opt to run Linux in an x86 emulation mode? Surely running it on the native instruction set/processor, or under an emulation of say Alpha would be much better."
No, I would run it under the native instruction set. Transmeta has several compiler writers and of course linux to make a direct port very speedy.
"This could also make the idea of vmware obsolete, imagine being able to save/restore the machine state to special areas of disk/memory. You could cycle through operating systems rather than terminals using alt + F key."
With many operating systems you can do this already. Hardware and memory access are the only real problems.
Found in the HTML of Transmeta's website:
[!-- There are no secret messages in the source code to this web page. --]
I've also thought that Microsoft's logo floating in the cloads was reminiscent of Magritte
Back in my college days sometimes everybody would just throw all the laundry in a big heap in the corner of the room. If you threw a blanket over the cloads it was kind of like a big beanbag chair (which was like free furniture). But, if you just dove in to the uncovered cloads heap, you'd end up half buried, floating in the cloads.
trans- \Trans-\ [L. trans across, over.] A prefix, signifying over, beyond, through and through, on the other side, as in transalpine, beyond the Alps; transform, to form through and through, that is, anew, transfigure.
/may't*/ or (Commonwealth) /mee't*/ A prefix meaning one level of description higher. If X is some concept then meta-X is data about, or processes operating on, X.
meta -/me't*/ or
both definitions from dictionary.com
btw the name transmeta was almost supplanted by Interpseudo, Megareference, and PrestoChango!!!
uhhh. i guess this post was flame bait. you're free to hack your kernel all you want boyo. and you're free to release those hacks to the community. i don't see how Linus is a manarch or dictator, or whatever you were trying te say. the '/' was carried over from unix -- linux is, afterall a unix clone. besides '\' sucks...dos uses it and it's not as accessible as /. blah.
>``I think I can now tell you when I will be able to tell you,'' Linus said on the sidelines of a seminar.
>
>``The company has considered saying something at Comdex, or at least saying when we will announce something.''
So a better first sentence would have been, "I think I can now tell you when I will be able to tell you when I will be able to tell you."
Joe
congratulations you are the ONE MILLIONTH person to recognize the 'no secret messages' comment in the html for transmeta.com! you win one free amiga toaster using transmeta cpu running linux-transmeta(tm) jit compiling jini services to java bytecode and toasting bread also
-- your knees hurt, don't they?
Well, just to make sure, you have to realise that Mr Siilasmaa was only joking. And that piece of news was meant to be sort of humorous, as there really was no news... Sami Rainisto sami.rainisto@talentum.fi
The multiple personality processor is not a new idea of course, although doing it as a microprocessor may be.
... etc)).
The Burroughs B1700 (as I recall) was one such user-microprogrammable CPU, with standard microprograms to optimize the architecture for running ALGOL programs, or for COBOL programs, and so on. I seem to recall from the same era a nanoprogrammable machine -- the nanocode was horizontal (very wide instruction word) and that reprogrammed the architecture on which the (vertical) microprograms ran (which reprogrammed
Doing all this on a microprocessor would be pretty neat (I'm trying to remember if Intel's iAPX 432 Ada chip had some of this capability). Being able to do it on the fly (at a context switch, say) from a micro- or nano-program cache would be doubly so.
Whether applications (or even the kernel) could be compiled down to the microinstruction level would very much depend on the specific memory architecture - microprogram words might be a totally different size from the main memory and transferring data/code between the two different memories could be too much of a bottleneck to run the application that way. But it probably wouldn't be necessary: a really smart compiler will optimize the top level instruction set for the program and generate the appropriate microcode for that instruction set. (Some work was done on this on the micro/nano programmable machines of back in the late 70's - I haven't followed it since then.)
Of course, for any such chip, being able to run native x86/PPC/you-name-it binaries would fall out as a natural given appropriate swappable microcode. Given techniques developed for Java machines like JIT, those binaries could even be recompiled on-the-fly into better microcode for improved performance over what the orginal chip would give. The trick comes in managing all this, which is where someone with operating system expertise comes in.
-- Alastair
You wonder what Transmeta's product is?
Well, it all started with the cyber dog...you've heard of them, right?
Well, why stop there...so, now Transmeta is one-upping it, and doing something previously unheard of...the cyber Penguin. Yes, it swims, it tries to fly (but fails), and it'll bite your hand off for a bit of herring...
And the best feature of all, it has a special sound chip, which listens for incorrect pronounciations of Linux and will bite your butt (literally) and correct you.
Something worth getting excited for? YOU BET!
[this ad paid for by Clueless inc.]
They are building Knuth's MMIX chip
and version 0.1 of NNIX to go with.
How exciting!
> This could also make the idea of vmware obsolete, [...]
No, not quite! Besides "emulating" the processor, you need a "monitor" to emulate all the other hardware that an OS would expect.
Roger.
How do you mean? If you save the state of the hardware in the machine to memory it's just like a context switch, granted it's more complicated. If you have a machine with a large memory, you segment it up, eg firs 64Mb to Linux, second to *BSD etc.
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No matter what it looks like, there isn't a
No matter what it looks like, there isn't a
It would be great if the new transmeta CPU (if that's what it is) implemented some of the features of the transputer - specifiaclly its ability to scale extremely well. If this was combined with the ability to make the chip change personality...
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Imagine you have a board of these low cost CPU's with great message passing capabilities. Things like graphics accelerators could become obsolete. Instead you configure the current CPU to be extremely good at vector transformations, or bump mapping... For better performance you just add a couple of extra processors. It would allow all sorts of other hardware devices to be implemented on a single CPU in a large system - allocating as many processors as necessary - and optimising each one.
No matter what it looks like, there isn't a
No matter what it looks like, there isn't a
This is probably just a publicity stunt by transmeta. They'll probably debut with their "vaporware" product in 2000.
Though it would be nice to actually know what they are actually doing.
If you're going to run a pool, how about the "Nothing Will be Revealed" pool? I think that's the one I'd put my money in.
UBER LOGIC =1;
Going by uber logic, Transmeta's incredible secrecy plus Linus gives me only one uber logical conclusion.
The technology is going to change the world as we know it. (passe, cliche? sigh. only so many ways to say it. )
Be kind. There are too many mean people out there already.
While I wonder what exactly it is that they do over there at transmeta I'm not going to enter into a pool or get too excited about it. Afterall they are just another company with some kind of product to push...can't be anything too terribly exciting there. The whole "we are top secret and we aren't telling you anything" is just a marketing gimick to raise attention. Guess what it worked! I'm even curious. Lets just hope whatever it is they do or make is as good as all the speculation makes it seem.
======== In the future, everything will be artificial. ========
While I wonder what exactly it is that they do over there at transmeta I'm not going to enter into a pool or get too excited about it. After all they are just another company with some kind of product to push...can't be anything too terribly exciting there. The whole "we are top secret and we aren't telling you anything" is just a marketing gimmick to raise attention. Guess what it worked! I'm even curious. Lets just hope whatever it is they do or make is as good as all the speculation makes it seem.
======== In the future, everything will be artificial. ========
Well, I just went from "would like to go to COMDEX" to "would sell plasma to go to COMDEX"....
I gotta admit, I'm absolutely intrigued by this company refusing to hype its product. "Don't believe the hype!" Well, in this case, there isn't any. Everyone has their own ideas (although in all honesty there are some pretty good clues) and so what normally would be another ho-hum startup has got the entire techie world waiting with baited breath to find out what it is.
:)
'Course, we're not gonna find out in November, either. As Linus said, "The company has considered saying something at Comdex, or at least saying when we will announce something." (italics added - duh!)
That said, if there are any Transmeta employees out there, please torment Rob with the most vague, ambiguous comments to increase his pain!
"You can never have too many elephants on your team."
As much as I'd like to think Transmeta will be coming out with some drastically different way of thinking of processors, I can't help but wonder if all of the hype is simply that, just hype. They do benifit greatly from the publicity caused by the secrecy, and it provides pretty much 'free advertising' for them. When I see it, I will whole heartedly cheer them on, but, as the saying goes.. "SHOW ME the MONEY!!!!"
-- I'm the root of all that's evil, but you can call me cookie..
Will their product be open-sourced?
We need a Transmeta slashbox that tracks every change on http://www.transmeta.com/.
Btw, it is interesting to note that the site runs Apache/1.1.1. It's a while since that version was released. I wonder what kernel version it is running..
have you ever saw the movie dr. strangelove? it is the doomsday machine!!!!!!! or a cool replacement for the good doctor's "bad" hand.
The secret came out yesterday, as Representatives from transmeta unveiled the culmination of the past two years off effort: a pickle that glows green, yet is not radioactive nor toxic. The project was kept shrouded in secrecy because of the threat of Transmeta's space age glowing pickle technology becoming revealed to the public and other companies.
"We wanted to corner the market on glowing pickles, and because of the kind of cutthroat competition in this field, Transmeta had to do everything it could to keep it's intellectual property safe," said CEO of Transmeta David Ditzel.
Reached for comment at his home, Transmeta employee Linus Torvalds had this to say:
"I didnt want to work on something that was directly related to Linux."
The pickle technology developed at Transmeta is clean and amenable to mass production. With the release of this product, Transmeta establishes itself as one of the leading high tech pickle vendors.
"From now on, when you say -glowing pickle-, the one thing that will come to mind is -transmeta-. They will corner the market with their extremely solid product," says market analyst Reddy Terwal.
The glowing pickle product, incidentally, will be named "This product is not named yet".
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Seriously though folks, does _ANYONE_ know what the hell is going on in there? Do you think that just maybe, perchance, this great secrecy is a nice little PR move to get people excited?
Remember the simpsons episode where "gabbo" came to springfield? The only ads they ran for him either went "Gabbo is COMING!!" or "gabbo.. Gabbo.. GABBO!!", about 3 second soundbytes. Somehow, it smells the same way for this whole Transmeta thing.
-Laxative
Hmmm, an uber-Merced chip with programmable schizophrenic uP emulations? I suppose it would make sense why Paul Allen would be a VC for them -- don't have to keep porting MS* code to different platforms.
My guess is they've been slaving away on the technology behind the next generation of gaming, a new breed of interactive fiction with incredible lifelike gameplay.
Though shadowy contacts with Transmeta's sinister agents I have managed to obtain this transcript, which should hopefully convey some the raw excitement on offer.
Transmeta Adventure
An Interactive Next-Generation Gaming Experience
by Linux Torwald and David Ditzy
You are in a cave there is BILL GATES here!!!
What do you want to do now TELL ME!
> smell bill
BILL GATES smell of POO!!!
> shoot bill
You shoot the BILL GATES with GUN! He disappears in a puff of smoke! Very good!
(Your score has gone up by two points.)
> release new software release beating windows
Yes! You have won!! and You get yoghurt!
(--end of transcript--)
Apparently the full version will also feature a section where you have to get the treasure and successfully negotiate a maze of twisty little stock options, all alike. Personally I can't wait.
(Look, none of us have a clue what's they're doing, so why not fill this article up with off-topic rubbish? Well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.)
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Jerk
Honestly, the last time I heard this much speculation, pointed silence, and rumer-mongering around Slashdot was....
....April Fools?
Call me cynical, but I got played for a sap then, and I don't really intend to this time around.
Transmeta may come out with something Really Cool - but until They say something official about it, it doesn't really affect me.
At least one member of Transmeta's hardware team used to work at DEC WRL, which issued that famous technical note on electric pickles. Transmeta could have hired him for his pickle know-how, which when added to Linus' lutefisk background may give us another hint towards Transmeta's plan for world domination. ellbee
You can't fight in here - this is the war room!
Liar, liar, your pants burn with fire.
For anyone who hasn't, view source on Transmeta's page... I think there may be secret messages in the source code to the web page :-)
--Ben
As I understand the term, "vaporware" is an announced but not (and possibly never to be) released product, publicized in order to "compete" with an existing product. The idea is to prevent buyers from purchasing the existing product while waiting (maybe forever) for the release of yours. To skip the usual anti-MS rhetoric, I consider Sony's PS2 and Nintendo's Dolphin projects to be vaporware competition to Sega's Dreamcast (even though I am holding out for PS2 myself).
If Transmeta is vaporware, what existing product are they competing with? They aren't pre-empting sales of any existing product, because no one knows exactly what product Transmeta is supposed to be better than. Vaporware, no. Not hype either, because they aren't promoting whatever they're doing themselves, a wierd sort of anti-hype. What we're seeing (and generating for that matter) is "Buzz", all coming from outside sources who want to know what's going on.
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.. to have Transmeta get all the Linux nerds frothing at the mouth to go to this year's Comdex.
This is the best advertising stunt going - wish I had thought of it.
A little planning goes a long way...
Today the mysterious company known as Transmeta finally revealed its primary business as marketing. Other areas of expertise include making geeks crazy by thinking up cool names and not telling them what they mean.
When asked what future projects they would be working on, a company spokseperson said "Our next initiative is named GorpoTron 3000, but I can't tell you what it does."
Hotnutz.com
If there is a pool put me down for $20. I'm wagering they will make a FGP (Field Gate Processor) that will run 6,000 times fater than a 500 PIII.
~`'`~-,_,-Jason Wylie-',_,-~`'`~
Distribute the netlist or the VHDL code for it,
or whatever language it is designed in.
Very simple.
Heard of ARM? Their CPUs are available to other people for a fee under licenses - you buy the rights to use their "netlist" to implement the CPU in your own products.
For an open source CPU, you simply make those netlists (in whatever form - Verilog, VHDL, whatever) freely available as you do with any other source code.
Sun already offer the source to some of their Sparc CPUs for free under their wassname license.
The idea of insisting that Transmeta release their CPU as open source does have rather a lot of appeal to it, especially bearing in mind who is involved and their dislike of anything non-open
I can just imagine the announcement being made by Linus and then him remarking as he pulls out his pair of MP5's that because he told us he must now kill us all, followed by much maniacal laughter of course!.
But what for do I try talking to a maniac.
Windows 95's clouds were, well, just clouds.
They redesigned them for Windows 98, and whenever I see them, I expect to see, in the centre, not the Windows logo, but Donald Duck.
george
I interviewed at Transmeta back in March - just so you know, I have no intention of revealing the slightest thing about what they're doing there so dont bother asking.
:P.
Anyway, onward.
I interviewed, signed an NDA - you know the deal. They made me a great offer, another company I interviewed with also made me a great offer, but I refused both offers because I wanted to stay in Seattle and work on my-own-thing (tm).
Transmeta is working on something very cool. When they announce what they're doing, everyone will say "wow, that *is* cool". In the meantime, all these speculations (the NSA brain implant is funny) are pretty much pointless.
Some of you clever folks might think - well if he didnt take the job then whatever they're doing probably isnt that fantastic. I feel obligated to mention, therefore, that the job I'm looking for is one where someone pays me to work on whatever I want whenever I want wherever I want. Unfortunately, Transmeta just wasn't able to fit that clause into the contract
Trey
You set up a company, keeping secret exactly what it is you are working on. You raise Venture Capital. You hype like mad [but see below...]. You raise more and more VC. You float the company in one way or another. You hype the price up an dup and up. You sell your stock. You announce "Oh shit. Our vapor product didn't work so we are abandoning it but we'll be back later". You then wait a little while, start up another company and continue the process - those who found the company make an absolute FORTUNE out of this. It's been done many times before, and it'll be done again.
The only thing unique about Transmeta's approach is that they themselves do not publically hype, they just reply on Linus' devoted followers to do that for them - seems to have paid off bigtime, folks.
No doubt this will be marked as flamebait or a troll...
Someone I know listened to Linus' talk
in Helsinki a few days ago, and apparently
someone asked him about NSA's implant chip
that can be used to read peoples minds.
Linus replied: "Well, I really can't talk about the things Transmeta does"
Slashdot already had a preview of our product. It was posted to get reaction without there be criticism of our product. Now all the bugs are almost worded out and you can know!
Risto Siilasmaa (CEO of DataFellows) commented the issue at the Information Society-seminar (which Linus Torvalds attended) in Helsinki on Wednesday: "My strongest guess is that Transmeta doesn't actually do anything."
There is some speculation that Transmeta's employees just hang around at their office and sell the company for a good price after this fuzz. Finnish philosopher Pekka Himanen mentioned that he has actually been in front of Transmeta's office and stated that the office has darkened windows and no visitors are allowed there.
So, when is the 2.4 kernel cutover? I'll be curious if it is just before Comdex. Well, I guess it could mean three things:
1) It's just a coincidence
2) Transmeta's product will improve/enhance Linux significantly
3) 2.4 Kernel will improve/enhance Transmeta's product significantly
By the way, I'm impressed with the "This web page is not here yet!" simplicity of their web-page. As someone pointed out earlier, it is reminiscent of Magritte. I've also thought that Microsoft's logo floating in the cloads was reminiscent of Magritte; perhaps someone with artistic talent could paint the picture: All white background, Microsoft logo with the caption: "Ceci n'est pas un monopole". (similar to the original at this link.)
---------The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
it is too difficult to run in pool, too much resistance. i agree no pool
This would doubtless do a good job of popping the ``Internet Bubble,'' and could result in an overall market bloodbatch as people re-examined the non-existent value of other enterprises that have seen bloated valuations due to peoples' miscomprehension of the use of "e-Business."
It would, however, be rather less fun for the principal participants, as it would be a downright fraud to issue an IPO to a thus-worthless company and then walk away with a bundle of dollars.
The above interpretation of matters also would not survive the scrutiny required by an IPO. See RHAT 424B1 Filing and S1.
I'm still biased towards the material I wrote way back when on Transmeta; it seems nearer accurate than anything publicized before or since...
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
If we physically slash-dot their headquarter, then we could find out if they are scamming the 6 billion people on earth. If there is nothing, heck, we saved the gramps who was going to sink their life saving into that company, and we would walk away with enough scotch tape to hold our coke bottle glasses together forever. If there is actual work going on, then we will take it and give it to the public, since nothing secret is good, and we don't need another Philadelphia project. Free the source, this way, it would take off on its own and knock every other Bill gates wannabe and their secretive/manipulative/greedy/capitalist scam that they run.
I think it will be a processor that can change it's personality by reloading microcode. If they do it right, I can imagine a processor that can support multiple personalities simultaneously. Imagine each process on the system running under a different personality by having multiple sets of microcode loaded and switching between them as processes are switched. One process could run linux or windows with a x86 microcode loaded while another could run MacOS with a 68K microcode loaded. Each of these processes would provide a virtual machine to run applications. On-chip cache memory densities have gotten to the point where I think this might be possible. It would be the ultimate in emulation.
of that Simpsons episode where Lisa found the angel artificat thing and all of Springfield thought the world was coming to an end and everything, but in the end it just turned out to be a hoax to get people hyped for the opening of some big mall....
I woulnd't be surprised if Transmeta makes toilet paper or something like that...Anything with this much hype is bound to suck.
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The lunatic you are talking about is Rauni-Leena Luukkanen-Kilde. She is claiming for example that the US government has some aliens in its posession. Her books sell very well, I think.
I think the seminar was great. It was great to see Linus and the CEO of Datafellows throw some opinions on oss vs. proprietary and a few other things. Linus was just repeating his view that over time the basic software will have enough features so that comsumers won't be willing to pay for new versions anymore. Then the competition will catch up and bring down prices evetually to the reproduction level which in the case of software available on the net is about zero. He also said that software companies can continue generating revenue by selling support services, tailoring business and creating new/better software for new needs. So nothing new there but a lot of media was there so good for them. Linus was also repeating his "Linus' law" which in my view is just the Maslow's hierarchy of needs in a new package.He said that the consumers, not technologists, will decide what technology will spread. Perhaps everything will be possible technologically at some point in time, but people will decide what kind of technology is needed.
Siilasmaa was worried about the lower investments in information society in European Community vs. North America. This will lead to many problems in Europe. The investments in IT are rising 14 % pa in NA and 11 % in Europe.
If that embedded dunno-what-ISA chip for WinNT CE enabled super-apps running off of 2 AA batteries proves to be less than a killer CPU for embedded dunno-what-handhelds with bluetooth enabled toaster interface, everybody and their dog will be laughing at Transmeta and Torvalds.
Transmeta, n.: nick name for a startup company that didn't say anything about their product, wasted alot of money, never got into the mainstream of a market and finally went bankrupt because too many of the developers left for a better position and the sponsor finally called it quits because the product didn't hold up to expectations. -> chapter 11
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It's well known that people only have one good idea in them. Linus' was to get people on the Internet to help program his proto-OS. I seriously doubt Transmeta will amount to anything. Linus is the Andreessen of operating systems: just lucky to be in the right place at the right time.
3-instruction long VLIW
probably some MMU support
Sure! At least two virtual memory subsystems.
maybe some support for x86 instruction emulation
Sure, FPU, Lock prefix, Debug registers...
a meta-OS that hosts the recompilation stuff
Right again.
Did you not read the previous article on Transmeta? did you not pay any attention to anything over the last three months?????
Transmeta doesn't need a publicity stunt, by actually sitting down and working on thier project they've created all the hype they can handle, if nobody has been promised anything, why the fuck would they release "vaporware"??? they can just not release anything!! nobody will care!!!
Ignorant people suck
Why are so many people obsessed with stealing what ever it is that transmeta is doing and releasing it to the public as freeware???? I mean i totally support open source, but How the fuck do you make an open source CPU????? distribute it in kit form??? what if Transmeta is actually developing electric pickles?? how the fuck.wnibn.. afentt... dhidn... oin *#$%() AAARRRGG!!
IGnorant PEOPLE SUCK!!
If you want to go to comdex, first you have to register at Comdex's Website and use the priority code: LINUX (Cool, eh?!) This code will get you into "the exhibits, keynotes, and Millenium Perspectives; the SuperSession; and Sm@rt Solutions." for free... Still $595 for the Linux Business Solutions Expo, but, on Monday, Nov. 15, 6:30pm, Linus Torvalds is giving his keynote...
Warning, if you don't already have a hotel to stay, be forwarned, the prices around town skyrocket when comdex is in town. Get a hotel room off the strip, like at a Station Hotel/Casio, or a Boyd Hotel/Casino Good L
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Somehow, I don't really think that ANYONE working at Transmeta would leak a secret for the amount of money they are probably going to make. Just a thought.
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Willy Dog says they will announce a new operating system, and a new chip to run it on. It will be way cool, and manage to swing the binary compatibility thing with existing apps from a bunch of other OS's and processor families. ... it could happen!
And instead of a silicon chip, it will use a greenish gel containing DNA-based computing elements. And when it crashes, the gel turns blue -- the blue goo of death (BGOD)