I bet Steve has enough eyes on iTMS-Europe that he wouldn't say 2004 if it wasn't going to come to pass. He just felt the heat of selling 65M songs on a 100M promiss.
I believe I read that M1A1 Abrams tanks have computer systems designed by SUN in them. The reason? just as you stated. They can take a round to the tank, loose many critical components, and still have control over the weapons, life support, communication, navigation, and engineering systems.
The Mars rov ers are also running some old "slow" chips because they are hardened and reliable (and draw less power). There is something to be said for getting to "fast enough" and then looking ofr other factors to favor - like reliability.
in 100 years, will students learn programming like they do mathematics? Start off with Basic (addition), then move to pascal (subtraction), Object Models (multiplication) and Databases (division) and then on to the by then "real" programming languages.
Or will out beloved BASIC, FORTRAN, PASCAL, et al just be studies by the historians of computer science like somone might study Latin or a primative dialect?
So Palm..er..PalmOne has lept in with both feat with their second generation Zire Photo-PDA.
It makes me sick. Why is this a feature? I mean, my camcorder even has a flash card for taking photo stills. I don't even get that - I am RECORDING the VIDEO, yet I can take a photo too!?! I mean, it's bad enough that I can't get a cell phone that works because all the R&D is going into making it take a picture, but now my PDA has to have a camera too.
Who are these beatuiful techies that are so vain they need their pictures taken 24/7?
So let me get this straight... (1) I spend 99c downloading a song (2) I spend the next X hours of my life writing or downloading an Apple DRM decoder (3) I end up with a non-DRM song and a 99c credit card bill
I can see why this is easier than just performing step 1 and quitting. I mean, since I have 6 computers I need to play the song on, or I want to burn 8 of the identical CD, or I have no life.
according to CNet, the 70 million songs in the first year included 5 million given away during the Pepsi 100 Million song give away, far feweer than the projected 1/3.
This Pepsi promotion was the first of the cross-branded promotions (I have since heard of Ben & Jerry's & McDonald). Maybe Apple wanted to see if the business partner could do it without Apple's input.
Perhaps after the "tilt and win" thing (which was on my local news the same week it was on slashdot) combined with the distribution issues, Apple just said "lost cause"
Perhaps Apple's biggest hope for the promotion was to get it on the Superbowl, and get news media and people talking about it. Maybe they were hoping publicity would push it and not advertising dollars.
It would be very interesting to know the terms of the deal - how much Pepsi and Apple paid in either direction and who was to do what.
Great point - I remember being in the grocery and seeing Spiderman swinging from some Coke bottle, but there was Pepsi, playing it cool with just a little yellow band on the label and a yellow cap on top.
Even the Superbowl commercial wasn't that good. I knew all about it and it left me a little like "huh?", so the average person would probably think "what's an iTune?" I read one poster say "I didn't redeem any bottle caps...the songs probably suck anyway" - clearly a person who didn't have the full story.
The point is that we're breaking the law if we watch something we legally rented because we chose to use a different Operating System.
But as part of "legally renting" the movie, or buying it or whatever, your terms of use are that it will be used under the restrictions of the DRM.
If you break the DRM, just because you wanted to (that's what your arguement boils down to - it's more convenient for you and you want to), then you have violated your agreement. Go rent the movie from someone who won't require you to agree to their DRM. Can't find such a movie? Then make you own but quit trying to make an entire industry change to allow you to trade movies like baseball cards.
Not really. I thought you might have some intelligent reasons. You don't provide any facts. You hardly provide reasons (How is "OS X belongs where Windows does, in a Windows." a reason for disliking OS X?).
I thought you were going to provide some interesting assertions.
BTW, 1. Apple held well over 15% market share in he 1980's, 2. You can choose to have iTunes NOT move your music by selecting so in the preferences.
That does sort of steal the wind from his sails doesn't it?
Not that it is Valenti's responsibility to supply the Linux community with a player. I have to agree with the article that if you rent the movie in a format that you can't play, then that's your fault and not the industry's. It isn't like you can't get a DVD player for less than $30.00 these days. Perhaps he shoudl have thought of that before he purchased a Linux box.
TT: None under Linux. There's no licensed player under Linux.
JV: But you're trying to set your own standards.
TT: No, you said four years ago that people under Linux should use one of these licensed players that would be available soon. They're still not available -- it's been four years.
JV: Well why aren't they available? I don't know, because I don't make Linux machines.
Let me put it in my simple terms. If you take something that doesn't belong to you, that's wrong. Number two, if you design your own machine, you can't fuss at people, because you're one of just a few. How many Linux users are there?
TT: About two million.
JV: Well, I can't believe there's not any -- there must be a reason for... Let me find out about that. You bring up an interesting question -- I don't know the answer to that... Well, you're telling me a lot of things I don't know.
If the intended effect is to drive iPod sales and not directly makea profit (as Jobs has stated is the intent of the iTMS) then I would measure it a success.
Walmart's strategy with their music store is that 88c downloads will drive people to their website for the first time and they will buy other items on-line.
This is common across the board - a grocery looses money selling turkeys for $1.00 because they know people will buy all their other Thanksgiving groceries there.
You can't break the iTMS out of Apple's total plan. It's part of a TOTAL plan.
... iTunes days are numbered. It is just a matter of time before DRM'd $0.99 tunes are dead in the water.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't allofmp3.com selling songs under the same license that allows a radio station to play a song? They are misusing the license and I would imagine that "it is just a matter of time" before allofmp3.com is shut down.
So they have no licensing fees to pay the RIAA, how much are they making on a 4MB download? could they scale to be the #1 music distributor to the world? I think a resounding ** NOT **.
The bottom line is Allofmp3.com is breaking the law by improperly using the license. If push came to shove, the licenses would be changed. Allofmp3.com is irrevelent now and will continue to be.
Ok, so why don't you tell me why you feel this is the case? I will assume you are educated enough to understand the facts so I won't try to convince you otherwise, but I want to know why you would say such a thing.
One thing that initially concerned me about puchasing from iTMS was what happens if a laptop is stollen. I can't very well deauthorize it.
If you call Apple and explain that your laptop was an authorized machine and has been stolen, they'll fix your account to make it look like the stolen laptop was deauthorized. If you search some Mac forums you'll find accounts of people calling Apple to do this
I find it difficult to fathom that, had Apple made the 100 Million mark by whatever combination of Pepsi or cash, they would not have announced it today.
The music I purchased before under the 10 burn/3 computer DRM could remain under that DRM. All I have to do is NOT AGREE TO THE NEW DRM. This would keep me from buying new music with this user ID, as I have to agree to the DRM, but would not effect the old music.
So Apple is faced with an issue. They couldn't just cut something out, without giving people a reason to agree to it. I nthis case, to continue shopping at the store and gain the ability to use 2 extra computers, I have to give up 3 identical CD burns. Big deal. Th emost I have ever burned is 2.
I see your point, but I think that reasonable business desires will keep DRM in check because otherwise, people wouldn't buy it at all.
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I believe I read that M1A1 Abrams tanks have computer systems designed by SUN in them. The reason? just as you stated. They can take a round to the tank, loose many critical components, and still have control over the weapons, life support, communication, navigation, and engineering systems.
The Mars rov ers are also running some old "slow" chips because they are hardened and reliable (and draw less power). There is something to be said for getting to "fast enough" and then looking ofr other factors to favor - like reliability.
in 100 years, will students learn programming like they do mathematics? Start off with Basic (addition), then move to pascal (subtraction), Object Models (multiplication) and Databases (division) and then on to the by then "real" programming languages.
Or will out beloved BASIC, FORTRAN, PASCAL, et al just be studies by the historians of computer science like somone might study Latin or a primative dialect?
So Palm..er..PalmOne has lept in with both feat with their second generation Zire Photo-PDA.
It makes me sick. Why is this a feature? I mean, my camcorder even has a flash card for taking photo stills. I don't even get that - I am RECORDING the VIDEO, yet I can take a photo too!?! I mean, it's bad enough that I can't get a cell phone that works because all the R&D is going into making it take a picture, but now my PDA has to have a camera too.
Who are these beatuiful techies that are so vain they need their pictures taken 24/7?
So let me get this straight...
(1) I spend 99c downloading a song
(2) I spend the next X hours of my life writing or downloading an Apple DRM decoder
(3) I end up with a non-DRM song and a 99c credit card bill
I can see why this is easier than just performing step 1 and quitting. I mean, since I have 6 computers I need to play the song on, or I want to burn 8 of the identical CD, or I have no life.
according to CNet, the 70 million songs in the first year included 5 million given away during the Pepsi 100 Million song give away, far feweer than the projected 1/3.
Caps may still be redeemed through April 30th.
Great point. A few thoughts:
This Pepsi promotion was the first of the cross-branded promotions (I have since heard of Ben & Jerry's & McDonald). Maybe Apple wanted to see if the business partner could do it without Apple's input.
Perhaps after the "tilt and win" thing (which was on my local news the same week it was on slashdot) combined with the distribution issues, Apple just said "lost cause"
Perhaps Apple's biggest hope for the promotion was to get it on the Superbowl, and get news media and people talking about it. Maybe they were hoping publicity would push it and not advertising dollars.
It would be very interesting to know the terms of the deal - how much Pepsi and Apple paid in either direction and who was to do what.
That gave me a good laugh - thanks!
My cell phone has done this for years. Press the "talk" button and it shows the last number dialed. Continue to hold it down and it dials it too.
My keyboard is similar. Press a key and it prints a character, hodl it down and it prints many of the same character. (See below)
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Good news! Steve Jobs said today that iTunes would be in Europe "later this year".
Great point - I remember being in the grocery and seeing Spiderman swinging from some Coke bottle, but there was Pepsi, playing it cool with just a little yellow band on the label and a yellow cap on top.
Even the Superbowl commercial wasn't that good. I knew all about it and it left me a little like "huh?", so the average person would probably think "what's an iTune?" I read one poster say "I didn't redeem any bottle caps...the songs probably suck anyway" - clearly a person who didn't have the full story.
If you break the DRM, just because you wanted to (that's what your arguement boils down to - it's more convenient for you and you want to), then you have violated your agreement. Go rent the movie from someone who won't require you to agree to their DRM. Can't find such a movie? Then make you own but quit trying to make an entire industry change to allow you to trade movies like baseball cards.
Not really. I thought you might have some intelligent reasons. You don't provide any facts. You hardly provide reasons (How is "OS X belongs where Windows does, in a Windows." a reason for disliking OS X?).
I thought you were going to provide some interesting assertions.
BTW, 1. Apple held well over 15% market share in he 1980's, 2. You can choose to have iTunes NOT move your music by selecting so in the preferences.
That does sort of steal the wind from his sails doesn't it?
Not that it is Valenti's responsibility to supply the Linux community with a player. I have to agree with the article that if you rent the movie in a format that you can't play, then that's your fault and not the industry's. It isn't like you can't get a DVD player for less than $30.00 these days. Perhaps he shoudl have thought of that before he purchased a Linux box.
I for one thought that more on the side of "funny" than "troll"
JV: There's lots of machines you can play it on.
TT: None under Linux. There's no licensed player under Linux.
JV: But you're trying to set your own standards.
TT: No, you said four years ago that people under Linux should use one of these licensed players that would be available soon. They're still not available -- it's been four years.
JV: Well why aren't they available? I don't know, because I don't make Linux machines.
Let me put it in my simple terms. If you take something that doesn't belong to you, that's wrong. Number two, if you design your own machine, you can't fuss at people, because you're one of just a few. How many Linux users are there?
TT: About two million.
JV: Well, I can't believe there's not any -- there must be a reason for... Let me find out about that. You bring up an interesting question -- I don't know the answer to that... Well, you're telling me a lot of things I don't know.
If the intended effect is to drive iPod sales and not directly makea profit (as Jobs has stated is the intent of the iTMS) then I would measure it a success.
Walmart's strategy with their music store is that 88c downloads will drive people to their website for the first time and they will buy other items on-line.
This is common across the board - a grocery looses money selling turkeys for $1.00 because they know people will buy all their other Thanksgiving groceries there.
You can't break the iTMS out of Apple's total plan. It's part of a TOTAL plan.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't allofmp3.com selling songs under the same license that allows a radio station to play a song? They are misusing the license and I would imagine that "it is just a matter of time" before allofmp3.com is shut down.
So they have no licensing fees to pay the RIAA, how much are they making on a 4MB download? could they scale to be the #1 music distributor to the world? I think a resounding ** NOT **.
The bottom line is Allofmp3.com is breaking the law by improperly using the license. If push came to shove, the licenses would be changed. Allofmp3.com is irrevelent now and will continue to be.
Ok, so why don't you tell me why you feel this is the case? I will assume you are educated enough to understand the facts so I won't try to convince you otherwise, but I want to know why you would say such a thing.
True, there are no other DRM AAC players, but the original list of music players all play AAC
Thanks!
I find it difficult to fathom that, had Apple made the 100 Million mark by whatever combination of Pepsi or cash, they would not have announced it today.
The music I purchased before under the 10 burn/3 computer DRM could remain under that DRM. All I have to do is NOT AGREE TO THE NEW DRM. This would keep me from buying new music with this user ID, as I have to agree to the DRM, but would not effect the old music.
So Apple is faced with an issue. They couldn't just cut something out, without giving people a reason to agree to it. I nthis case, to continue shopping at the store and gain the ability to use 2 extra computers, I have to give up 3 identical CD burns. Big deal. Th emost I have ever burned is 2.
I see your point, but I think that reasonable business desires will keep DRM in check because otherwise, people wouldn't buy it at all.
Apple's solution can be found here.
Off the original topic but...
Does VirtualPc run Linux or only Windows? If it does, then your iBook will be able to run, via VirtualPC, Linux.
Of course, OS X is based on FreeBSD so you may find the need for Linux to be a minimal one.
Oh, and it's iTunes