Reminds me of the time this guy was in the street signing people up regular donations to a scheme which helped drug and alcohol addicts. He was really enthused, "yeah this scheme is great, it really helps people, it is really successful."
I ask, oh ok, so let's see, a meaningful change would stick for at least two years, so do you guys follow up with people and see if they are still doing well after two years?
"Oh people really move around a lot and you know we can't track them. But this scheme is really good, it really works, people get better."
Ok you can't track some of them, but what about the others, do you check after two years?
"No, but it really works, it is really effective."
At this point his colleague gets interested and calls her manager who says, no, they don't have that data.
its current configuration in the world today, islam doesn't have a separation of church and state. so its culture is heavy in membership rules (sorta an anthropology term) which downplay the individual, and emphasise the group. all the monotheisms have that, and any old culture in the world has had that, simply because in earlier aeons most of the world was organised along tribal and membership rules. from the point of view of a membership moslem, islam is the final truth given by god, after the christians and earlier, the jews corrupted it. it is version 3.0 -- best and purest. so it has a strong cultural ethos to preserve that purity. when middle east nations who are engaged in a cold war with each other, persians against arabs, try to destabilise each other using religion as a weapon, they can easily draw on jihad-membership culture-of-honour messages which are already part of the religion just because it was founded in the 7th century when that's how the world worked, to varying degrees. it would be harder but not impossible to manipulate jains into that because they are fundamentalists about non-violence. so there are several ingredients. but today, big money is one of those ingredients and is how all these guys who would perhaps dream of jihad can actually get the funding to buy stuff and get out there and get fighting. for anyone who objects to the features of a particular religion being singled out, there are several books by moslems, men and women, detailing their experience of islamic culture as it is today in the world, and whilst we would wish to be sensitive, what they say is that western "sensitivity" doesn't do any favours to the large numbers of moderate modern thinking moslems who are held back by the well funded political groups, who are using extremist membership culture, deliberately promoting it as a political tool, in the middle east and beyond. they are aghast that they leave their home nation and come to say, america and find the local mosque and local moslem community is more extremist than the one they left behind in the developing world. this it seems, is no accident.
Most memorable ride for me was on some kind of prop flying low in Zambia, to Lusaka. Lovely view of giraffes. Horrible, terrible turbulence. But great view. Don't recall any problem with seat space.
It was still big enough that you could hold it against the slot and try. If it wouldn't go in, you turned it over. But with these tiny connectors, you're not even sure if you can't insert because you are just missing the hole in poor lighting. The problem has been basically getting slowly worse and I guess that's why people are so glad and relieved to have Lightning now, at least for that, other drawbacks aside. I have been cursing Apple for a while now because of how easy it is to insert a Thunderbolt upside down. One wishes to send the Hammer of Thor hurtling towards Apple HQ.
Cable orientation wasn't a problem before the connectors got tiny and I have to stare at it very closely to spot the shape. As we get older, some of us lose visual acuity. I don't want to have to call my wife to plug in my phone.
Quite. A book by George Gilder I'm reading, seems to point out that the real economy is driven by creativity and invention (of useful stuff).
Why else is this cotton shirt I'm wearing so cheap to buy? A few hundred years ago cotton was a luxury fabric affordable to only the very rich.
But do economists know anything about creativity, novelty, invention? Or are they often just arguing over "balance" and "tweaking" and supply and demand and redistribution and stuff like that? I'm not an economist, so I don't know.
But like care for cancer, it is expensive, but if someone invented a simpler more effective treatment, it would become cheaper... ?
Google "global governance", "climate justice", and read "Spiral Dynamics" for starters. But especially that latter book, because it is applicable to lots of stuff, including why USA's failure in Iraq was obvious from day 1.
The trouble with general views about AGW is that it is also a political and moral issue. Like abortion where fundamentalist religion types get involved attacking science, we have post-modern ecology global justice and global governance types getting involved defending the science.
And you always want to be careful who you have defending you.
Just to cover more ground, there are times when the majority of peers turned out to be smart, educated, hard working, honest, and wrong.
I think one way or another, open channels for people to get their ideas out there are good. If one site wants to turn comments off, fair enough.
There are plenty of other sites where people who are professionals (engineers, etc.) can post comments which agree or disagree with some topic.
What I don't agree with is if "the experts" start closing ranks. That just sounds too much like when the police force closes ranks to cover something up. I don't think one site closing comments is what that is, but it would be worrying of the notion of dismissing anyone "not in the field" became dominant.
I doubt it ever will though, not in a reasonably free society.
um maybe i worded that badly, but that's the point, they didn't calculate the confidence interval, they just made it up: "how confident do you feel about this stuff? oh i feel really confident, like 95 percent"
and if you think that's outrageous for a bunch of scientists, yes, exactly. the IPCC is political.
Then the oil companies and the GOP claim that it is not happening, and you claim that it is not about making money.
Have you really seen the oil companies claiming that? Or do people just claim the oil companies claim that? If carbon trading takes off, can't oil companies play too and make a buck? Just like capitalism can make a buck off of just about anything that's a popular trend? Like home ownership? Low fat food, low salt food, meat substitutes, just to take an example from other big industries which embraced a shift in spending patterns. And what about all the wind farms, don't they cost billions to build? Isn't that "big energy" too?
And for the record I'm not American... more like one of those soft anti-war European types.
yes, i just framed my comment more for the people who are criticising it. as we both say, if it is usable and easy and just works, that a lot better for many people. we aren't all geeks obsessing over how biometrics are a bad idea.
i have the same face all my life, and that goes on my passport. omg what a security vulnerability (sarc)
i love most of apple design but i also know to most people here that means squat.
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Reminds me of the time this guy was in the street signing people up regular donations to a scheme which helped drug and alcohol addicts. He was really enthused, "yeah this scheme is great, it really helps people, it is really successful."
I ask, oh ok, so let's see, a meaningful change would stick for at least two years, so do you guys follow up with people and see if they are still doing well after two years?
"Oh people really move around a lot and you know we can't track them. But this scheme is really good, it really works, people get better."
Ok you can't track some of them, but what about the others, do you check after two years?
"No, but it really works, it is really effective."
At this point his colleague gets interested and calls her manager who says, no, they don't have that data.
So how do you know it works?
"But it really works, it really works well."
Thanks
Good point, and part of the problem is the language.
"holes" are dangerous things people fall into, or drive over shattering their suspensions.
"wells" are nourishing and picturesque features in the landscape.
we should call them "your friendly neighbourhood gravity well"
My god, it's full of... ahhhhhhhhrrrghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
i've noticed weirdness when moving messages between mailboxes. drag and drop to move, then later i notice it is still there. gmail account.
Every mirror is a joke machine.
Yes, there's all that monotheistic obsession with making the world into a utopia, of only we just all followed the plan.
Those who've seen the outcome of those plans are the ones laughing hardest.
He is all those three, plus one more: omnihumorous.
We just haven't got the punchline yet.
funny how despite being modded to prominence with +5 interesting, no flame war actually ensued.
its current configuration in the world today, islam doesn't have a separation of church and state. so its culture is heavy in membership rules (sorta an anthropology term) which downplay the individual, and emphasise the group. all the monotheisms have that, and any old culture in the world has had that, simply because in earlier aeons most of the world was organised along tribal and membership rules.
from the point of view of a membership moslem, islam is the final truth given by god, after the christians and earlier, the jews corrupted it. it is version 3.0 -- best and purest. so it has a strong cultural ethos to preserve that purity. when middle east nations who are engaged in a cold war with each other, persians against arabs, try to destabilise each other using religion as a weapon, they can easily draw on jihad-membership culture-of-honour messages which are already part of the religion just because it was founded in the 7th century when that's how the world worked, to varying degrees. it would be harder but not impossible to manipulate jains into that because they are fundamentalists about non-violence. so there are several ingredients. but today, big money is one of those ingredients and is how all these guys who would perhaps dream of jihad can actually get the funding to buy stuff and get out there and get fighting.
for anyone who objects to the features of a particular religion being singled out, there are several books by moslems, men and women, detailing their experience of islamic culture as it is today in the world, and whilst we would wish to be sensitive, what they say is that western "sensitivity" doesn't do any favours to the large numbers of moderate modern thinking moslems who are held back by the well funded political groups, who are using extremist membership culture, deliberately promoting it as a political tool, in the middle east and beyond. they are aghast that they leave their home nation and come to say, america and find the local mosque and local moslem community is more extremist than the one they left behind in the developing world. this it seems, is no accident.
ended up the other side of the country with amnesia
hence the need to lock them in
Most memorable ride for me was on some kind of prop flying low in Zambia, to Lusaka. Lovely view of giraffes. Horrible, terrible turbulence. But great view. Don't recall any problem with seat space.
Would be comfier at this rate.
True, I guess I was comparing to the time spent performing a complex ritual and prayer to the SCSI gods.
It was still big enough that you could hold it against the slot and try. If it wouldn't go in, you turned it over. But with these tiny connectors, you're not even sure if you can't insert because you are just missing the hole in poor lighting. The problem has been basically getting slowly worse and I guess that's why people are so glad and relieved to have Lightning now, at least for that, other drawbacks aside. I have been cursing Apple for a while now because of how easy it is to insert a Thunderbolt upside down. One wishes to send the Hammer of Thor hurtling towards Apple HQ.
Cable orientation wasn't a problem before the connectors got tiny and I have to stare at it very closely to spot the shape. As we get older, some of us lose visual acuity. I don't want to have to call my wife to plug in my phone.
Because nobody will every try to make another new kind of USB connector.
Quite. A book by George Gilder I'm reading, seems to point out that the real economy is driven by creativity and invention (of useful stuff).
Why else is this cotton shirt I'm wearing so cheap to buy? A few hundred years ago cotton was a luxury fabric affordable to only the very rich.
But do economists know anything about creativity, novelty, invention? Or are they often just arguing over "balance" and "tweaking" and supply and demand and redistribution and stuff like that? I'm not an economist, so I don't know.
But like care for cancer, it is expensive, but if someone invented a simpler more effective treatment, it would become cheaper... ?
Google "global governance", "climate justice", and read "Spiral Dynamics" for starters. But especially that latter book, because it is applicable to lots of stuff, including why USA's failure in Iraq was obvious from day 1.
The trouble with general views about AGW is that it is also a political and moral issue. Like abortion where fundamentalist religion types get involved attacking science, we have post-modern ecology global justice and global governance types getting involved defending the science.
And you always want to be careful who you have defending you.
Just to cover more ground, there are times when the majority of peers turned out to be smart, educated, hard working, honest, and wrong.
I think one way or another, open channels for people to get their ideas out there are good. If one site wants to turn comments off, fair enough.
There are plenty of other sites where people who are professionals (engineers, etc.) can post comments which agree or disagree with some topic.
What I don't agree with is if "the experts" start closing ranks. That just sounds too much like when the police force closes ranks to cover something up. I don't think one site closing comments is what that is, but it would be worrying of the notion of dismissing anyone "not in the field" became dominant.
I doubt it ever will though, not in a reasonably free society.
um maybe i worded that badly, but that's the point, they didn't calculate the confidence interval, they just made it up: "how confident do you feel about this stuff? oh i feel really confident, like 95 percent"
and if you think that's outrageous for a bunch of scientists, yes, exactly. the IPCC is political.
The point is, there is no calculation which spits out "95%".
It is a made up statistic.
Then the oil companies and the GOP claim that it is not happening, and you claim that it is not about making money.
Have you really seen the oil companies claiming that? Or do people just claim the oil companies claim that? If carbon trading takes off, can't oil companies play too and make a buck? Just like capitalism can make a buck off of just about anything that's a popular trend? Like home ownership? Low fat food, low salt food, meat substitutes, just to take an example from other big industries which embraced a shift in spending patterns. And what about all the wind farms, don't they cost billions to build? Isn't that "big energy" too?
And for the record I'm not American... more like one of those soft anti-war European types.
yes, i just framed my comment more for the people who are criticising it. as we both say, if it is usable and easy and just works, that a lot better for many people. we aren't all geeks obsessing over how biometrics are a bad idea.
i have the same face all my life, and that goes on my passport. omg what a security vulnerability (sarc)
i love most of apple design but i also know to most people here that means squat.