"RedHat told us a year ago that Xen was dead"... Amen... When they will tell you that the earth is flat, I guess you will trust too.
Don't use "I doubt", or "I think", actually CHECK for things before writing. Maybe having a look at the Xen -devel list would help. Also, did you ever consider how small of a player RedHat is compared to a company like Oracle? We are talking about millions against billions here. Sure, Oracle has the budget to do absolutely what it wants, even take-over RedHat as a whole if it wants to.
Truth. That's one of the show-stoppers for me as well. That and the fact that KVM forces you to use a Qemu layer.
But if you loved Xen, why did you move away from it, just because Ubuntu doesn't support it? It's still quite active in Debian, and Bastian Blank (eg: waldi) is doing a great job supporting the dom0 kernel and hypervisor. The only requirement was to run your dom0 with Debian, then you could run whatever as domU (Ubuntu, if you like it).
Oh, and as far as I understood, the reason why Ubuntu moved away from Xen, is simply a lack of resources to work on it. This wasn't a willing-full decision like RedHat did.
Would you mind elaborating a bit? FYI, I'm the person maintaining xen-qemu-dm in Debian thanks to the help of people from Citrix and Intel, and I've been in touch with Jeremy quite few times, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
For stable server virtualization vmWare ESXi is pretty much the king at the moment
As in, "others aren't stable" ??? COME ON ! Have a try with Xen and Virtualbox (I know KVM less), and see how stable they are. vmWare isn't more stable, it can't be, as others are so stable AS WELL. We (at GPLHost) have some Xen servers that have been running for YEARS without a single blip (we only reboot them when we see a kernel issue that could affect the dom0, which is pretty rare).
IMHO, Xen is not adapted to workstation. It works best in server environment. Virtualbox, with it's very nice GUI, feels nicer on the desktop (pointers to a good Xen GUI anyone?). Also, the Virtualbox seemless mode is just so great ! No issue with mouse clicks and the like anymore, resolution changes in windows on the fly, d3d calls redirected to OpenGL, etc.
Bullshit. Virtualbox translates d3d calls into OpenGL, and it's really fast. You can play video in fullscreen on a 1080p resolution, and if your video board is good, it's going to be fast in Virtualbox too.
Frankly, RedHat isn't Linux. They have never been, and they wont ever. RedHat is dumping Xen, ok... But even if IBM (and a bit of RedHat) is working on KVM, so is Intel, Oracle, Samsung, Fujitsu and others working on Xen.
KVM is in mainline kernel? Well, so is domU support. And dom0 in mainline kernel support is slowly becoming a reality as well. Patches after patches, it's upstreaming.
RedHat is dumping Xen? Well, how long is this going to be sustainable when it's going to be directly available as an option to tick in your "make menuconfig"? Will they be so stupid as to REFUSE to integrate RPMs with the userland tools and hypervisor? What's going to say Oracle about this, when they recommend (and even ship) Oracle virtual machines?
Please stop cut/pasting things about RedHat dumping Xen, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT REDHAT (MISS-)COMMUNICATION !!!
The issue might well be that Sarkozy had no intention to get reelected... That could well be the case, seeing how far this government went (I'm not talking about Hadopi only here...).
Yes, but you see, our "conseil constitutionel" founded out that, in France, our constitution mention that you are considered innocent until proven guilty, and that private company cannot replace judges. As "annoying" as it might be for film and record majors, we still have little bits of citizen rights in France, so a private company cannot decide if you commit an infraction. Too bad...
The law also clearly stated that the ISP would be indemnify. And without any spirit, they still don't know HOW, which is why Free is doing like this. They are fully right to do so, and no judge will deny it.
I would agree with you if it was possible to install any app on an iHardware without jailbreak. That's not the case, and clearly, Apple hasn't make the Jailbreaking thing something standard to say the least. You are pretending that's just guidelines, it's not, it's restricting users capability to install the type of apps it wants, and that is restricting freedom. Until recently, jailbreaking an iPhone was considered by Apple a violation of the DMCA, which made it a federal crime in USA. This is a history first that we have such restriction on a computing platform.
Stop pretending we are slashbots telling how to run services, we are all legitimately outraged by this kind of freedom restrictions, and we always will.
Web browsers are often used to do copyright infringements and download illegal contents as well. Or is it about how often that is the case? If so, then does it mean that because many others are misusing a technology, I have no rights to use it? What if I want to use torrent to, let's say, download the latest Ubuntu (in 3 days from now)? Forbidden, because Apple said so.
Thanks but no thanks. I will *never* purchase an apple product, and will continue to use my Nokia n900, because I care about my freedom, and I tell about it.
If you were in France, and using the ISP called "Free", then it would have been YEARS that you had a/64 routed through your ADSL router. It just happens that you have a stupid American ISP, so you are still wondering what WILL happen, instead of what HAS already happened.
Hang on here, I'm a French guy living in China, let me tell things are they really are.
This can't be the case! Every 8 minutes, between LongYangLu station (in the middle of Pudong 20 minutes driving away from my home) and the Pudong airport, there's a "bullet train" going at 430 km/h. So if this was a world record, then I could see it beaten every day from my window!!! And this isn't Chinese technology, this is German, and here in Shanghai is the only place where you can see it. They even call it the "demonstration train", because it was a commercial first.
Come on, this news is all bullshit-chinese-propaganda. The HCR is crap, it takes nearly 7 hours to do Shanghai to Zhengzhou, and it's barely running at 245 km/h at max speed, but most of the time running at 180 (I can tell, because the speed is displayed in real time in the train).
As for the TGV, it's max speed is about 320 km/h, and it sustains it for long period of times during every day operations. The Chinese HCR is VERY FAR from this.
Now, what we are talking here about the 420 km might well be the Shanghai to Hangzhou first bullet train trial. But then, this isn't exactly a common train, with wheels, but a maglev train (held in the air by magnetism). And this is German...
Yes, right... DMCA... Lucky, we don't all live in a country with such bad laws. This is only a threat for people living in USA and UK, where you have a DMCA. In a country like France, it's perfectly legal to do anything you want with a blue-ray disk, or with any device. You can open it, decompile it, reverse-engineer what you want, do as many copy of any material as you like (as long as you don't give it to anyone), etc.
In other countries, like China, they absolutely don't care about copyright. Even more, in some web sites like pps.tv, you have access to absolutely all the films you can think of for free, with the benediction of the state (and I'd add a wild guess: that sees in it a way to reduce imports).
You might really be right, but that's unfortunately not what the sales team at Adobe thinks. Look in the forums there, and you'll see that they believe they can't make a single buck out of a Linux version.
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"RedHat told us a year ago that Xen was dead"... Amen ... When they will tell you that the earth is flat, I guess you will trust too.
Don't use "I doubt", or "I think", actually CHECK for things before writing. Maybe having a look at the Xen -devel list would help. Also, did you ever consider how small of a player RedHat is compared to a company like Oracle? We are talking about millions against billions here. Sure, Oracle has the budget to do absolutely what it wants, even take-over RedHat as a whole if it wants to.
Truth. That's one of the show-stoppers for me as well. That and the fact that KVM forces you to use a Qemu layer.
But if you loved Xen, why did you move away from it, just because Ubuntu doesn't support it? It's still quite active in Debian, and Bastian Blank (eg: waldi) is doing a great job supporting the dom0 kernel and hypervisor. The only requirement was to run your dom0 with Debian, then you could run whatever as domU (Ubuntu, if you like it).
Oh, and as far as I understood, the reason why Ubuntu moved away from Xen, is simply a lack of resources to work on it. This wasn't a willing-full decision like RedHat did.
Would you mind elaborating a bit? FYI, I'm the person maintaining xen-qemu-dm in Debian thanks to the help of people from Citrix and Intel, and I've been in touch with Jeremy quite few times, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Which is why Oracle is shipping some Xen VMs ?
Windows only works well if you use GPLPV drivers, otherwise is slow as hell..
Actually, you can now use the Citrix paravirtualized drivers for windows too, which are of better quality (they are now open source as well).
For stable server virtualization vmWare ESXi is pretty much the king at the moment
As in, "others aren't stable" ??? COME ON ! Have a try with Xen and Virtualbox (I know KVM less), and see how stable they are. vmWare isn't more stable, it can't be, as others are so stable AS WELL. We (at GPLHost) have some Xen servers that have been running for YEARS without a single blip (we only reboot them when we see a kernel issue that could affect the dom0, which is pretty rare).
IMHO, Xen is not adapted to workstation. It works best in server environment. Virtualbox, with it's very nice GUI, feels nicer on the desktop (pointers to a good Xen GUI anyone?). Also, the Virtualbox seemless mode is just so great ! No issue with mouse clicks and the like anymore, resolution changes in windows on the fly, d3d calls redirected to OpenGL, etc.
Bullshit. Virtualbox translates d3d calls into OpenGL, and it's really fast. You can play video in fullscreen on a 1080p resolution, and if your video board is good, it's going to be fast in Virtualbox too.
Frankly, RedHat isn't Linux. They have never been, and they wont ever. RedHat is dumping Xen, ok ... But even if IBM (and a bit of RedHat) is working on KVM, so is Intel, Oracle, Samsung, Fujitsu and others working on Xen.
KVM is in mainline kernel? Well, so is domU support. And dom0 in mainline kernel support is slowly becoming a reality as well. Patches after patches, it's upstreaming.
RedHat is dumping Xen? Well, how long is this going to be sustainable when it's going to be directly available as an option to tick in your "make menuconfig"? Will they be so stupid as to REFUSE to integrate RPMs with the userland tools and hypervisor? What's going to say Oracle about this, when they recommend (and even ship) Oracle virtual machines?
Please stop cut/pasting things about RedHat dumping Xen, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT REDHAT (MISS-)COMMUNICATION !!!
Yes, but there's something Linux doesn't have: the famous .LNK exploit! :)
Not only they run major FLOSS mirrors, like ftp.fr.debian.org, but they are bloody fast...
The issue might well be that Sarkozy had no intention to get reelected... That could well be the case, seeing how far this government went (I'm not talking about Hadopi only here...).
If a majority of the population decided bank robbery was okay, does that mean we should re-evaluate if robbing banks is really a bad thing?
A majority of banks decided to do people rebbery, and it isn't evaluated as a bad thing, so...
Yes, but you see, our "conseil constitutionel" founded out that, in France, our constitution mention that you are considered innocent until proven guilty, and that private company cannot replace judges. As "annoying" as it might be for film and record majors, we still have little bits of citizen rights in France, so a private company cannot decide if you commit an infraction. Too bad...
Thanks. We told them, and they know we are against Hadopi (a majority of French hate it). They still did it. Now what is your advice?
The law also clearly stated that the ISP would be indemnify. And without any spirit, they still don't know HOW, which is why Free is doing like this. They are fully right to do so, and no judge will deny it.
I would agree with you if it was possible to install any app on an iHardware without jailbreak. That's not the case, and clearly, Apple hasn't make the Jailbreaking thing something standard to say the least. You are pretending that's just guidelines, it's not, it's restricting users capability to install the type of apps it wants, and that is restricting freedom. Until recently, jailbreaking an iPhone was considered by Apple a violation of the DMCA, which made it a federal crime in USA. This is a history first that we have such restriction on a computing platform.
Stop pretending we are slashbots telling how to run services, we are all legitimately outraged by this kind of freedom restrictions, and we always will.
Web browsers are often used to do copyright infringements and download illegal contents as well. Or is it about how often that is the case? If so, then does it mean that because many others are misusing a technology, I have no rights to use it? What if I want to use torrent to, let's say, download the latest Ubuntu (in 3 days from now)? Forbidden, because Apple said so.
Thanks but no thanks. I will *never* purchase an apple product, and will continue to use my Nokia n900, because I care about my freedom, and I tell about it.
Switch to Chinese...
Instead of saying silly things, RTFA. Your ISP wont like LSN...
If you were in France, and using the ISP called "Free", then it would have been YEARS that you had a /64 routed through your ADSL router. It just happens that you have a stupid American ISP, so you are still wondering what WILL happen, instead of what HAS already happened.
Hang on here, I'm a French guy living in China, let me tell things are they really are.
This can't be the case! Every 8 minutes, between LongYangLu station (in the middle of Pudong 20 minutes driving away from my home) and the Pudong airport, there's a "bullet train" going at 430 km/h. So if this was a world record, then I could see it beaten every day from my window!!! And this isn't Chinese technology, this is German, and here in Shanghai is the only place where you can see it. They even call it the "demonstration train", because it was a commercial first.
Come on, this news is all bullshit-chinese-propaganda. The HCR is crap, it takes nearly 7 hours to do Shanghai to Zhengzhou, and it's barely running at 245 km/h at max speed, but most of the time running at 180 (I can tell, because the speed is displayed in real time in the train).
As for the TGV, it's max speed is about 320 km/h, and it sustains it for long period of times during every day operations. The Chinese HCR is VERY FAR from this.
Now, what we are talking here about the 420 km might well be the Shanghai to Hangzhou first bullet train trial. But then, this isn't exactly a common train, with wheels, but a maglev train (held in the air by magnetism). And this is German...
That makes me say: why only Diaspora got so much exposition, if there's so many alternatives to it? I don't get it...
Yes, right ... DMCA ... Lucky, we don't all live in a country with such bad laws. This is only a threat for people living in USA and UK, where you have a DMCA. In a country like France, it's perfectly legal to do anything you want with a blue-ray disk, or with any device. You can open it, decompile it, reverse-engineer what you want, do as many copy of any material as you like (as long as you don't give it to anyone), etc.
In other countries, like China, they absolutely don't care about copyright. Even more, in some web sites like pps.tv, you have access to absolutely all the films you can think of for free, with the benediction of the state (and I'd add a wild guess: that sees in it a way to reduce imports).
You might really be right, but that's unfortunately not what the sales team at Adobe thinks. Look in the forums there, and you'll see that they believe they can't make a single buck out of a Linux version.
Are you SERIOUSLY thinking that Adobe is ready to let others have a look in their on-security-issue-per-day code base? :)