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Intel Threatens DMCA Using HDCP Crack
mikesd81 writes "Intel is apparently threatening to use the DMCA against anyone using the HDCP crack under the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause. 'There are laws to protect both the intellectual property involved as well as the content that is created and owned by the content providers,' said Tom Waldrop, a spokesman for the company, which developed HDCP. 'Should a circumvention device be created using this information, we and others would avail ourselves, as appropriate, of those remedies.'"
You know hackers will win anyway.
After the horse has left the barn it's too late to close the door.
...and does it really supprise anyone?
With DMCA hell I could protect something with 2 bit encryption. There is only two keys. 1 and 0. Pretty easy to crack right? It doesn't really matter. No matter how easy to crack doing so opens you up to the DMCA.
If they win expect more "paper tiger" encryption and content protection systems. The teeth isn't the weak flawed crypto. The teeth is in the lawsuit potential.
Maybe I won`t use Intel....
So good luck with that Intel...
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- Cable providers will start disabling non-HDCP devices from recording HD shows
- HD shows still appear on the net.
- Intel goes after teh philthy pirates with DMCA
- People lose homes and/or go to jail over distribution of Jersey Shore and other tripe.
Trolling is a art,
You've found a foolproof way to protect your obsolescent DRM. After all, it worked so well for DVD/CSS.
We can already by HDCP strippers for around $400, and have done for a few years.
What about those people in countries that don't have a DMCA, don't have software patents and have "interoperability" clauses in most things?
Can't I just buy my HDCP stripper from them, instead? Fortunately, that tends to be the same countries that make lots of cheap electronics. Surprising, that, isn't it?
(Not that I care - I don't own a single piece of HD equipment, and don't feel like I'm missing out either)
Who wrote the headline? Shouldn't it be "Intel Threatens HDCP Crack Using DMCA"?
I wonder if it's possible to make a hardware HDCP to DVI converter without having to make a custom ASIC. That way there wouldn't be the need to depend on a lone (probably chinese) supplier.
I'm sure more than a few people would be willing to donate for it to be developed.
So if the Library of Congress says jail-breaking is okay, and the DMCA says it's not, which one takes precedence in U.S. law?
(You do not need to point out that this is Slashdot, not a legal firm. I do not expect all responses to be from lawyers. I will not take any responses to be authoritative. Heretofore therefore nonesuch nevertheless notwithstanding and yadda yadda.)
I remenber there was once a ban in europe to read the bible, other by sanctioned sources. So a dude ( Lutero ) made a version in a language (german) that everyone can read.
I don't remenber how the DMCA back then worked. Did the pope stopped him?
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So what would it take to actually build an HDCP re-recording device? Does it require custom silicon from a fab, or can it be built using a FPGA and a bread board?
engineers are all basically high-functioning autistics who have no idea how normal people do stuff
Effectively, what they mean is that, on their watch, no one will be mass-pproducing or marketing any kind of useful device which would give owners of legitimate copys of works the power to use their data they way they would like.
Does this mean the industry will rally around a replacement for HDCP? Will we all need to buy new TV's again? New blu-ray players? New video cards and laptops? Or do they think they can keep this genie bottled-up forever? This here could be exactly why DRM should be illegal and why the DMCA should be repealed. Imagine that every 5-10 years -- every protocol, every connector, every player -- has to be replaced because the industry won't back it unless it has a new unbreakable DRM system. This would be bad for everyone except the select few at the top of the industry who are collaborating to profit off of re-selling new devices to everyone. It half-way makes me suspect that they collude to release these systems, then crack them just as the get adoption to force everyone to buy new systems.
But this is a worst-case scenario. Time will tell...
My thinking is that some Chinese company will release a basic pass-through HDMI-HDMI adapter with a USB port. The USB could be used to flash an ASIC with HDCP stripping code.
Think of how Free to Air receivers worked out of the box for, well, free satellite. You need to download code to get the cracked stuff.
Trolling is a art,
If I understand this correctly, the BD encryption has NOT been cracked. THIS hack only opens the communication over the HDMI cable between the BD player and your TV. Cracking the encryption on the BD disks themselves is another matter that has not yet been fully cracked. However, this exploit should allow reading the digital data flowing out of the BD player to be captured and saved to disk. This might require some hardware hacking, I don't think there are any PCI video cards that have HDMI INPUTS available.
Even if China or someother NON-DMCA country builds such devices they will (eventually) be destroyed by customs and whoever smuggles them into this country will be treated the same as a drug dealer.
Im currently availing myself, since appropriate, of my middle digit facility.
Just use an FPGA... problem solved.
This protection did great as far as not being broken by a 14 year old. Next time will be stronger but will they lock the plans up better?
The OpenGraphics project are building a graphics card with a big-ass FPGA on it. Seems like the right tool in the right place...
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Intel: We have confirmed the exploit.
internet: ok, cool.
Intel: The only practical way to use this exploit it to make a device that decodes in hardware.
internet: yeah, probably. but why are you-
Intel: Specifically, you may not make these schematics (hands out schematics) using cheap readily available components. Don't even think about it. We have more copies if anyone needs them.
internet: ...
a reasonably fast embedded processor on a COTS dev. board.
I don't mean to be a grammar nazi here, but "Intel Threatens DMCA Using HDCP Crack"? Really? The DMCA must feel so threatened because of Intel threatening it with the HDCP crack... More like "Intel Threatens HDCP Crack With DMCA".
"Our country is not nearly so overrun with the bigoted as it is overrun with the broadminded." -Archbishop Fulton Sheen
Companies can legally under Intel's licenses make reprogrammable HDMI/DVI device that do anything. The caveat is that they not support HDCP. A company can make these sell them legally and then let the users modify the firmware or software drivers to add HDCP. Another more interesting issue is the DMCA is a US law, so unless the country involved has a like law the company can sell the legal product in the US and offer the upgrade on its web site in a country where Intel can do nothing about it.
I don't need to point that:
a) DHCP is been defeated using hardware removers for a long time already
b) Despite how some USA companies believe, DMCA is not valid worldwide and in many places rip a DVD or BluRay is perfectly legal as long it's for your personal use at least.
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Intel: Arresting/Suing your customer is a tried and true solution to everything.
Unlike DRM which is present within media upon its receipt, HDCP does not exist on a BluRay or cable/satellite TV transmission. HDCP is something that is added by the user's machine. DMCA says:
And since we're talking about a process/treatment that occurs after access, it's not something that is needed to gain access.
Just an idea. (Probably won't work.)
Another tack here, is: how easily can you tell your equipment to use HDCP even when it's not playing DRMed media? Can you have your computer use a HDCP connection to its monitor all the time even when you're surfing Slashdot, typing your great novel, etc. Is this something that is happening all the time, anyway? (I just don't know.) If so -- if non-DRM-colluders can enable HDCP -- then 99.999999% of the time that someone uses a HDCP cracker, they would not be doing to circumvent a technological measure that controls access to a work without the authority of the copyright holder, since the user is the copyright holder. Likewise, the intended market and primary use of such a device, would not be to remove HDCP without the authority of the copyright holder. It would be legal to use and traffick.
(This is why there can never be a real standard for DRM, because you have to prevent non-colluding parties from being allowed to apply that DRM, lest they authorize access.) Cracking HDCP and distributing cracks, is only prohibited if HDCP is normally only used when a copyright holder demands it.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
The OpenGraphics project are building a graphics card with a big-ass FPGA on it. Seems like the right tool in the right place...
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I bet you this was planned all along and the leak was "accidental". That way, the market can begin to retire Blu-Ray for it's better successor, which will include a NEW way to lock down content, that will have planned obsolescence built into it as well.
You think they rolled out Blu-Ray for the consumer? Blu-Ray II will be Bigger and Better, and another excuse for us to rebuy our prior purchases. This is just the impetus. Wait till 2016 when Blu-Ray II is cracked, and version 3.0 is in the wings.
Dude, where's my packet?
Once there ceases to be any tangible benefit for the consumer in an upgrade (no, I don't need 2160p, or 32-channel surround sound, or 4-D goggles LOL) then people will more strongly resist the upgrade cycle.
How about continued availability of newly published works? Or where can I buy a lawfully made copy of Avatar on VHS?
They plugged the "analog hole," making my life a pain-in-the-ass, only to find that HDCP is as big a hole as goatse.cx [null link]?
I'm beginning to think the hole is between any executive's ears who thinks technology can fix the human problems of the devaluation of the modern publications industry. If we have to diligently and constantly sue people to make DRM work, DRM has failed. QED. Hell, our society failed at the point when we allowed a 12-year-old to be sued instead of giving her a stern lecture, and taking away her computer privileges.
The only thing HDCP is "secure enough" for is live streaming, pay-per-view events, where it matters that it is seen in a non-recorded format. It's "good enough" to prevent rampant (i.e.: global) rebroadcast in realtime. Everything else, including the number of TV sets displaying it in a bar, can be cracked.
Technology cannot deter human nature. Technology cannot fix the fact that two-thirds of the world can't afford the product. Fix that, make people want to buy this entertainment for reasonable prices without "regional fixing," instead of trying to stop people from being dishonest. I mention regional fixing, because if we have a global economy and markets without borders, and I am not allowed to reap the clear rewards of downward price pressure because you have a regional pricing cartel, I'm going to seriously consider dishonesty.
This is because I'm getting screwed in a very one-sided arrangement, you see. Price fixing is technically illegal in my country, in fact. The industry gets away with it because there are no "global laws"... yet.
Such inequities are what has turned the global entertainment economy into a Wild West. If a product is offered at an affordable, unfixed price, the greater numbers of customers will more than make up for any media piracy.
Stop trying to seal up the "holes" with tech like HDCP; it can't be done. Concentrate on building a fair marketplace in which you can turn a fair profit.
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bd is breakable (slysoft.com) and so who cares about BD anymore.
but for the mythtv guys who want to timeshift cable (non-clear qam) or sat-tv, you really only have hdmi now. the s-video is a joke and they won't give you component since its analog and is a 'hole' (lol).
if the hdmi sniffers/importers start hitting the shelves, that would enable us mythtv guys to FINALLY consider coming back to pay-tv again.
this could be a GOOD thing for the content guys. right? RIGHT??
of course they'll never see it that way. I currently don't have a pay-tv sub and have let mine lapse for a few years, now. my myth-tv setup only picks up OTA and what is tunable by my hdhomerun box. if, though, it was possible to easily import the hdmi/dvi streams from the cable boxes, that would actually put the pay-tv back into consideration again.
if I can't record it to MY system, I don't want it. but let me timeshift my way and I can open my wallet.
intel and the rest of the industry: hear me, please. I'm a revenue stream that you refuse to tap because of your silliness.
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Remember that the only reason these devices have DRM is because the content producers want it and consumers will tolerate or in most cases not notice it. The electronics industry has no particular stake in this, other than to sell the most devices. They don't care what the devices do so long as people buy them.
So when HDMI was created, Intel put in copy protection because they knew it would help market the thing. If it was unprotected, the media industry might balk at putting content out on any device that had it. Status quo with old devices would be maintained, electronics industry doesn't make more money. They also knew it would be almost a total non-issue to most consumers. While there were some early adopters that got fucked, or people doing something fairly non-standard, most people aren't even aware of HDCP since more or less all HDMI devices have it. You switch to the new connector and that is it.
This also works because people are moving to a new format anyhow. They are replacing old NTSC TVs with new ATSC TVs. They want the new electronics for the features, they don't stop anything they already have from working, etc. Content producers are happy, consumers are happy, the electronics industry is happy.
Well the problem with something new, if you tried to mandate it, is that people wouldn't buy it. You roll out HDCPv2 on new Blu-ray players. They don't work with your HDCPv1 TV. People will not want these players. They'll buy one, it won't work, they'll take it back. Well stores aren't going to be interested in stocking something like that. Because of that, electronics companies won't make something like that. Also because of that, content producers will be forced to support older HDCPv1 devices to make any money.
You can offer up a completely new format with new restrictions to consumers, but it has to be something they like to bite. As an example of a failure look at DVD-Audio. The idea was to increase the fidelity of audio, but also to get some copyprotection. It features CPPM, which is better than CSS and of course way better than the nothing CDs feature. Problem is that they couldn't move it. Only audiophiles bought the hardware so even though the content industry liked it, they had to keep making CDs, and in fact very few DVD-As were made.
So a new DRM could potentially come out with a new connector and format, but it has to be something you can convince people they want to buy. Just trying to say "Nope, you need HDCPv2 now," would do nothing. Nobody would buy it, since it would work less well than the HDCPv1 stuff on the market.
This is the last sentence in the C&D letter she sends:
Your anticipated cooperation is anticipated.
Someday we'll hit the human carrying capacity. And the band will just play on.
I wonder if it's possible to make a hardware HDCP to DVI converter without having to make a custom ASIC. That way there wouldn't be the need to depend on a lone (probably chinese) supplier.
Hardware should be something like this: http://www.thisnext.com/item/C582EA3E/E0650FCC/2-Channel-Dual-Link-DVI-FPGA
(actually, that board's way over the top... the FPGA on it is higher spec than I imagine would be required, there'll be no need for the expansion RAM as most FPGAs these days have more than enough internal RAM for this kind of thing, and it won't need the expandability designed onto that board, but you get my point: the hardware you'll need already exists)
The design to load onto the FPGA should be relatively easy for anyone skilled in both crypto and digital electronic design. I'd expect to see one released within the next couple of weeks, judging by how many people I've seen complaining about not being able to use their non-HDCP-compatible monitors to watch stuff.
The DMCA allows for reverse-engineering for interoperability. So, eat a dick Intel.
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As someone who is considered taking on this very project as a purely intellectual endeavour and releasing the results, schematics, and code into the open without fear of retribution from Intel or anyone else, I wonder what they have to gain from spouting out this FUD. Or, is it they have to take this position publicly to both look good to their share-holders, as well as save face with those they are under contract with.
As someone who has very little money, I'm not sure what a 'win' in court would get Intel other than negative press and a permanent burn mark on every hobbyist, hacker, and IT tinkerer on the planet.
There is no win-win for Intel on this particular matter.
As others have mentioned, an FPGA would be the way to go. This would also take care of the DMCA issue - some type of open digital video capture project could sell FPGA based capture cards to encode non-HDCP DVI/HDMI video sources, and thus not violate the DMCA. Since the FPGA is easily software upgradeable, the end-user could update it after purchase to also decode HDCP much like how libdvdcss is handled today.
The biggest benefit is not for piracy (99% of pirates wouldn't bother and would just download the content instead) but rather to allow one to capture and encode digital HD video from their cable box for a home media server setup. It's unfortunate that such a practice isn't protected by fair use since it is a perfectly legitimate use case.
There are already chips out there that can do HDMI with HDCP (e.g. Analog Devices AD9393) if you supply a key.
So it should be a matter of using one of these plus a key derived from this intel master key.
Good find, but I don't think that will work for two main reasons:
1)It can only transmit DVI and not receive, but being able to receive HDCP encoded video is pretty much the only worthwhile use case.
2)It's on a PCI-X bus which isn't all that common anymore, and was never very common in consumer PCs.
That said, there are a number PCI-e based FPGA development boards out there that would probably offer a better solution. You may have to implement the DVI LVDS receiver portion yourself though.
The First Sale Doctrine has been revoked. Sure, some may claim it was "only" for DVD's, but unless there is some push-back in the courts very soon, companies will expand it to cover, oh, pretty much every gadget in your life.
Why just threaten? Why aren't they pre-emptively suing? Or can they only do that for trademark infringement?
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
Copyrights only last xx years (I'm too lazy to look it up, and media content peeps are constantly trying to extend it).
Media released encrypted does not contain a timed mechanism stating unlock permanently xx years after release.
DMCA enforces encryption schemes through eternity (or until repeal), making the copyrights on said media last in perpetuity.
This makes the DMCA as an enforcement scheme illegal as what it's doing is illegal.
Should be possible using an off-the-shelf HDMI receiver chip, an off-the-shelf DVI transmitter chip, and a microcontroller. Just reroute the incoming DDC line from the HDMI port to the microcontroller and let it perform the HDCP authentication (instead of having the receiver chip do it). Then just hook up the data lines from the receiver to the transmitter, and let the microcontroller coordinate all the necessary setup.
a) DHCP is been defeated using hardware removers for a long time already
Yes, but until now buying one is a bit of a gamble because its key could be revoked at any time, turning it into an expensive doorstop. Now, you could design one to produce a new key every time you power it on.
You obviously don't need them. All you have to do it say "it's illegal."
The EU version of the DMCA specifically only provides protection for effective encryption measures. So for example the first time the CSS wast taken to the European Court the ruling was that it was not an effective encryption measure and the case was thrown out. The fact that due to flaws in the scheme an ordinary PC can crack the CSS encryption in less than a second makes it ineffective and thus not eligible for protection.
If HDCP simply required gathering 40 public keys from 40 different bits of hardware to work out the master key then it is highly likely that it would be ruled and ineffective encryption measure and thrown out.
Similarly your two bit scheme would also fall foul of the requirement to be effective.
Excuse me... but if the protection measure is effective (as in, no-one has manged to break it), then you don't need a law that forbids breaking it. It would be like forbidding perpetual motion (as in "Lisa, in this house we follow the laws of thermodynamics!").
In italy it's legal also to give it away for no fee at thousands of peoples.
Here piracy is illegal ONLY if you get an economic gain(you charge real money for the service) from it...
The first rule of libdvdcss2 is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT LIBDVDCSS2!
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All you really need for this is an HDMI receiver with HDCP support but no keys and an HDMI or DVI transmitter. Wire the two chips together, add in a small microcontroller (msp430/cypress psoc class should be sufficient) to manage the link. Keyless receiver/transmitter chips use a simple I2C eeprom to store the keys externally on the assumption that you've paid the HDCP consortium for the keys (chips with built in keys require you to sign a license deal in order to purchase them). Use your pc to generate a valid sink key, program that into the eeprom, write some relatively simple code to manage the receiver/transmitter and your done. Analog Devices used to sell a dev board that would be perfect for this purpose - it contained all the necessary parts, save the microcontroller, so would need to build that part of the system. A bit of overkill for this kind of project, but it would work.
No more to Intel, I'm afraid... all my next PCs will have AMD CPUs.
Fuck you Intel.
NO
Not even close
That's saying you don't need a DVD drive on your pc since you have a DVD player connected to your tv
It's the right tool at the wrong place
how long until
The DMCA is not supposed to apply to situations where your actions would otherwise be legal. There are plenty of high resolution monitors with DVI input but not HDMI. Just because Intel and friends don't want me to use my legally purchased monitor with my legally purchased bluray player to watch legally purchased blurays does not make it illegal.
In 1984, the US Supreme Court ruled that video cassette recorders were perfectly legal because recording tv shows for purposes of time shifting constitutes fair use, not copyright violation. Even though VCRs could be used for making illegal copies of copyrighted material, the court ruled that VCRs had significant non-infringing uses. ISTM that a device that lets me connect a monitor to a bluray player so I can watch a movie has a heck of a lot more non-infringing use than a recorder.
The only reason I say this will be an interesting test case and not a slam dunk win for the good guys is because the US Supreme Court (and the US in general) has shifted dramatically rightward since 1984. Particularly in situations where corporate profits conflict with personal freedoms.
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The FCC dropped the ball on this, a requirement for fire-wire output (and tuning) on all cable and sat boxes for all subscribed channels period end of story. I really enjoyed when my entire entertainment center was connected via fire-wire. I could record things on my digital vcr with no quality loss and all the bits besides the tv could be hidden without sill ir repeaters etc. The move to uncompressed digital transport formats was a step back they did not even manage to duplicate the remote functionality. I do not see content producers refusing to sell to the American market because somebody could copy the stream and release it that will happen no matter what.
No sir I dont like it.
So it is truly Ninjas versus Pirates! Let the epic battle commence!
Yes, right ... DMCA ... Lucky, we don't all live in a country with such bad laws. This is only a threat for people living in USA and UK, where you have a DMCA. In a country like France, it's perfectly legal to do anything you want with a blue-ray disk, or with any device. You can open it, decompile it, reverse-engineer what you want, do as many copy of any material as you like (as long as you don't give it to anyone), etc.
In other countries, like China, they absolutely don't care about copyright. Even more, in some web sites like pps.tv, you have access to absolutely all the films you can think of for free, with the benediction of the state (and I'd add a wild guess: that sees in it a way to reduce imports).
It's needed for interoperability. You know, you have a high definition TV from before the HCDP was available or fixed, so you need this info in order to make your Blu Ray player work with your high definition TV.
Or with Linux.
Or with BeOS.
Or with...
I was under the impression that the DMCA only protects effective encryption, not rot13. With the master key leaked, HDMI isn't effective encryption anymore.
Hey don't blame me, IANAB
a) DHCP is been defeated using hardware removers for a long time already
All you have to do to 'defeat' DHCP is to use a static IP address.
Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
Source, please?
Thanks to ACTA, DMCA-style legislation is coming to your place very soon now. Never underestimate the determination of the US government/legislature to force its notion of Copyright down everybody's throats... esp. after they have cashed in those nice fat checks from the Entertainment Cartel.
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If you're going to go all Conspiracy Theory on this, then the key was released by the TV delivery companies.
Why subscribe to a TV service that you can't timeshift, especially if you got used to being able to do that back in the analog days? Users with sense (whether it's common sense, or a sense of entitlement to be able to record and then playback at a more convenient time) are probably dropping subscriptions in favor of either pirating content or just doing without.
By releasing the keys, it becomes feasible for people to have cable/satellite capture cards; that is, these services become pairable with PVRs, resulting in excellent value for the consumer. $50/month for unshiftable TV isn't a good value, but $50/month for shiftable TV is. (At least in my case, Comcast knows this; I was a happy customer who shoved money down their throats every month back when their service was usable, and ceased to be a customer when their service became crippled. If this applies in my case, how many millions more people?)
HDCP capture devices will move the market equilibrium from piracy or abstinence being the best answers, in the direction of subscribing being a good answer. Why bother to bittorrent the Daily Show (whether you're annoyed by occasional "scene" unreliability, or afraid of legal risks) when your PVR can automatically record it, like how things worked ten years ago?
No, I don't really think they're the ones who did this, but the financial motive is certainly there. You have to remember: DRM is only a way to tell customers to fuck off and stop paying. DRM is a way to reduce revenue without any gains to counterbalance that, so anyone in the content business is going to want DRM to be defeated, if maximizing profits is their top priority.
We like to think of the content companies as being coldly-calculating greedy money-grubbers, but remember that Jack Valenti was opposed to consumers having video tape machines and tried to use government force to prevent those consumers from doing billions of dollars worth of business with his own people. They might be greedy but they don't think greedy.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
How long before we find some chinese HDMI_HDCP_Remover at our favorite Chinese internet shop ?
Or a FPGA equiped with two HDMI plugs, some USB plugs, ... and onboard JTAG to transfert whatever you want...
Well, given that they are trying crippled CPU where you've to pay to unlock all your cores and cache... I think that avoiding iNTEL is a good idea anyway.
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And this is what HDCP is for too. Shaking down hardware and software providers for a licensing fee. HCDP doesn't do a damned thing about copy protection, just ensured that the pirated media was viewed on a licensed monitor.
Well, up until somebody cracked it.
The problem is the data rate of HDMI. That's raw pixels going across there. The only practical way to capture it is with something that can decrypt it AND do real time compression.
there's 2 parts, though; control plane and data plane.
hdmi is not control (is it?) its just data. control is still not interoperable or any kind of standard. firewire was one but it was not widely deployed. in my whole life, I never ran into a box that had it ;(
I guess since they figure that they are not giving us data, why even give us access to the control plane? to their thinking, IR blasters are 'good enough'.
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"Intel Threatens DMCA Using HDCP Crack"
So Intel is threatening the DMCA, using the ominous threat of the HDCP crack... Got it.
"Intel is apparently threatening to use the DMCA against anyone using the HDCP crack under the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause."
OK, I see where I went wrong... They're threatening to use the DMCA as a threat... They want to identify the people who are using the HDCP crack under the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause and threaten them with the DMCA. Got it.
Though it does seem a bit strange that people would be able to use the HDCP crack under the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause in the first place...
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Have you mythtv guys heard of firewire? Aren't all US boxes required to have it now?
I've been able to get HD via the cable companies box and firewire to my Windows MCE machine for years via firewire and an ir remote.
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The Librarian of Congress has announced the classes of works subject to the exemption from the prohibition against circumvention
I paid the going retail price for a Windows screen reader and got a free Unix computer!
I wish I could mod you up, but already posted here.
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used games
This worked for me on the Sega Genesis, and it worked for you on the Nintendo 64 and GameCube, but it will become more difficult as multiplayer continues to shift from in-person-on-one-box to online. (This shift happened about a decade and a half ago for PC games, and it's in progress on Xbox 360 and PLAYSTATION 3.) Once a game has hit the bargain bin, the publisher has likely already shut down the matchmaking server. If you've ever got a DNAS Error -103 on a game for a PlayStation family console, you'll understand this.
Circa 2003 DVHS looked like an option for HD recording and a bunch of the high end bits went with it. Firewire was the connector of choice for DVHS.
Actually HDMI has a DDC channel that can send data back and forth at 100 or 400kbs, it's used for capability signaling etc. The new 1.4 spec added a 100mbs Ethernet channel between devices so there is a facility to pass data from one end to the other just no desire to do anything useful. HDMI was only an upgrade for the content companies as a standard it's a step back. I guess we might see things get better depending on what gets implemented over that Ethernet channel.
No sir I dont like it.
There was some doubt about whether the leaked HDCP key was actually legitimate and therefore useful.
I'd just like to personally thank the stupid Intel veep who decided that globally threatening innocent people was a good idea, as the only thing he actually achieved was to reveal the leak does worry Intel so the key is almost certainly genuine.
hdmi is just DVI + sound and HDCP works on DVI!
Curiously, HDMI neglects to provide transport for closed captioning. The text is rendered by the decoder and shipped along as a bitmap.
Probably the most feasible way to offer closed captioning from a BluRay to the deaf and blind is to play the BluRay once with CC on, once with it off. Capture the HDMI frames, difference them before and after, and do OCR on the differences. A custom-built player could automate this process. With a fast enough processor it could be done in real-time (latency not being terribly important) and drive a Braille reader.
To a deaf and blind person, the only value of a BluRay disc may be as an eBook. A library with such a goal may be possible as an open source project.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
One Question: When will I be able to watch Blu-Ray disks on Linux or Mac or other NON-Microsoft general purpose computers? Is there a How-to guide up already?
To the HDCP people - get over it. Any copy protection that includes shipping something physical to end users will be circumvented. The only viable way to stop the madness is to give your customers what they want - cheap viewing access on any device they happen to own - ipod, gpod, dpod, analog TV, DVD, computer, Linux, Mac, Windows, BeOS, CD, hard drive, flash drive, whatever. When we get that stuff AND it is cheap enough to not bother with stealing, then you won't need to worry about copy protection. Blu-ray data is too large for most people still, so that is an effective copy protection method. To me, the DRM associated with that format has meant I get the HD content without owning a BluRay player using the stuff the cable system sends. I record it, transcode it and backup the resulting files for later viewing ... just like with a VCR. Nothing illegal about that since 1984 http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id408.htm.
What resolution is the firewire video?
use your lawyers.