If the openmedicine article is too long for you the important paragraph is probably this one
'Canadian health care has many well-publicized limitations. Nevertheless, it produces health benefits similar, or perhaps superior, to those of the US health system, but at a much lower cost. Canada’s single-payer system for physician and hospital care yields large administrative efficiencies in comparison with the American multi-payer model. Not-for-profit hospital funding results in appreciably lower payments to third-party payers in comparison to for-profit hospitals while achieving lower mortality rates. Policy debates and decisions regarding the direction of health care in both Canada and the United States should consider the results of our systematic review: Canada’s single-payer system, which relies on not-for-profit delivery, achieves health outcomes that are at least equal to those in the United States at two-thirds the cost.'
Than why is Canada slowly privatizing after decades of socialized medicine?
Please document
Why is Britain and France running constantly in the red budget wise?
This is an odd question to ask if you are defending the US system(that sentence is such a great opportunity for you)
Why are taxes in countries with socialized medicine and or education so much higher than elsewhere without any increased benefit seen via graduation rates?
Having met many US CS graduates the question should be 'Why do countries with socialized medicine and or education produce such a higher quality of graduate than those from one particular user pays country?'
Graduation rates mean absolutely nothing when some of the graduates that get through the US system appear to need remedial math.
A user pays system seems to generate a higher sense of entitlement amongst graduates(*sniff*why are those H1-B people stealing our jobs*sniff*?(Guess what sort of social system these people mostly learnt(OMG) their trade in?))? The more bums on seats that get their diploma the more money the university makes and when the student is a profit centre nothing much else matters.
As for compassion, the state is a soulless thing that has no compassion. The state would sooner set you up in prison for not paying your taxes than give you a free handout. There is only one source of compassion and it seems to be anathema to most/.ers.
I haven't written off the possibility that God exists. I hope that if he does then the so-called 'rapture' happens soon as for me it will be rapture(the state of mind resulting from feelings of high emotion; joyous ecstasy). PLUS seeing all those written off SUVs would make me smile.
Socialized health care and education do not work. Get over it or go try and build your own socialist paradise.
I suspect that is an opinion based on someone's fear of those Godless communists. I also have no need to build a so called socialist paradise. AU has its problems but I didn't need indoctrination from birth to make me say that I wouldn't swap it for anywhere else on Earth. Get over it.
It's the same thing here in Australia with that so-called free health care. I had to pick up a months supply of medication last week and I paid through the nose for it. It had increased by nearly 80% since the last time I needed to get a script filled. It was $5. I checked around and the same months drugs in the US was nearly $8000. So that blows away that myth about free health care in AU too.
People with better educations generally earn more money and pay more in taxes. have you had a good look at the state of the roads and bridges in the US lately? have you even had a look at the figures and statistics regarding which countrys suffered the most due to the 'global financial crisis'? No links provided as 'nimrods' don't use them to support their arguments.
I would prefer to give all my money to the government and get nothing back but bad management, an engorged military, and the hatred of numerous nations. I much prefer that that money go to worthy causes such as bailing out 'too big to fail' businesses upon which we all rely upon to take our homes, call in our loans at the first opportunity, and generally treat us like the cattle we allow ourselves to be.
I doubt there is anything you could say that could change the posters idea that your education is nothing but a socialist/communist conspiracy aimed at derailing the free market and attacking the constitution. You have probably already been reported to 1800-TIPS for your wrong thoughts.
I am quite astonished that I have read quite a few comments on this story and not one person has thought/commented about the ramifications for cloudy tubes.
People in some country areas (like me) have no choice unless they want to connect at 57.6(i think that's the speed Optus and other offer here - close to this). And I pay $60AU for every 3GB(that is up and down) with no unmetered content.
I worked as a CSR years ago in Australia. i was at the bottom of the heap as far as seniority went but I definitely would have had the power to cancel this fee without having to defer to someone higher up. I would have reported my actions after I had taken them and that is it. I personally couldn't work for a company in which i would need someone else's authority to make such an obvious decision.
The real news is that one of her first (if not the first) acts as PM was to cancel the public service advertisements pushing the super profits tax on the mining industry. I am of the opinion that we may never know what the real story behind all this bullshit is.
I can already see my computer saying "what are you doing, Dave"? if I mistakenly visit a non-Conroy approved site. To all the people saying that Australia is turning towards totalitarianism you need to pay more attention as it is the whole Western world that is turning! Not just us.
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If the openmedicine article is too long for you the important paragraph is probably this one
'Canadian health care has many well-publicized limitations. Nevertheless, it produces health benefits similar, or perhaps superior, to those of the US health system, but at a much lower cost. Canada’s single-payer system for physician and hospital care yields large administrative efficiencies in comparison with the American multi-payer model. Not-for-profit hospital funding results in appreciably lower payments to third-party payers in comparison to for-profit hospitals while achieving lower mortality rates. Policy debates and decisions regarding the direction of health care in both Canada and the United States should consider the results of our systematic review: Canada’s single-payer system, which relies on not-for-profit delivery, achieves health outcomes that are at least equal to those in the United States at two-thirds the cost.'
Are you saying socialized education and medical care is better?
Yes
Than why is Canada slowly privatizing after decades of socialized medicine?
Please document
Why is Britain and France running constantly in the red budget wise?
This is an odd question to ask if you are defending the US system(that sentence is such a great opportunity for you)
Why are taxes in countries with socialized medicine and or education so much higher than elsewhere without any increased benefit seen via graduation rates?
Having met many US CS graduates the question should be 'Why do countries with socialized medicine and or education produce such a higher quality of graduate than those from one particular user pays country?'
Graduation rates mean absolutely nothing when some of the graduates that get through the US system appear to need remedial math.
A user pays system seems to generate a higher sense of entitlement amongst graduates(*sniff*why are those H1-B people stealing our jobs*sniff*?(Guess what sort of social system these people mostly learnt(OMG) their trade in?))?
The more bums on seats that get their diploma the more money the university makes and when the student is a profit centre nothing much else matters.
As for compassion, the state is a soulless thing that has no compassion. The state would sooner set you up in prison for not paying your taxes than give you a free handout. There is only one source of compassion and it seems to be anathema to most /.ers.
I haven't written off the possibility that God exists. I hope that if he does then the so-called 'rapture' happens soon as for me it will be rapture(the state of mind resulting from feelings of high emotion; joyous ecstasy). PLUS seeing all those written off SUVs would make me smile.
Socialized health care and education do not work. Get over it or go try and build your own socialist paradise.
I suspect that is an opinion based on someone's fear of those Godless communists. I also have no need to build a so called socialist paradise. AU has its problems but I didn't need indoctrination from birth to make me say that I wouldn't swap it for anywhere else on Earth. Get over it.
I have worked with people with tertiary computer qualifications from the US. I would take a TAFE graduate over them any day.
It's the same thing here in Australia with that so-called free health care. I had to pick up a months supply of medication last week and I paid through the nose for it. It had increased by nearly 80% since the last time I needed to get a script filled. It was $5. I checked around and the same months drugs in the US was nearly $8000. So that blows away that myth about free health care in AU too.
People with better educations generally earn more money and pay more in taxes. have you had a good look at the state of the roads and bridges in the US lately? have you even had a look at the figures and statistics regarding which countrys suffered the most due to the 'global financial crisis'? No links provided as 'nimrods' don't use them to support their arguments.
you might want to check your facts.
Thanks for that. I needed a good giggle.
You mean problems like education, medical care, and worst of all compassion
and yes I like the word 'upon'. It makes me hot.
I would prefer to give all my money to the government and get nothing back but bad management, an engorged military, and the hatred of numerous nations. I much prefer that that money go to worthy causes such as bailing out 'too big to fail' businesses upon which we all rely upon to take our homes, call in our loans at the first opportunity, and generally treat us like the cattle we allow ourselves to be.
I doubt there is anything you could say that could change the posters idea that your education is nothing but a socialist/communist conspiracy aimed at derailing the free market and attacking the constitution. You have probably already been reported to 1800-TIPS for your wrong thoughts.
if you have kids, the state owns you
Close. They own the kids
I care a fair bit about liberty and stuff
Bullshit
The section called Intellectual Espionage is a real eye opener. It's worth reading just to see what the average fifth grader was doing 100 years ago.
The lack of hospitality was not allowing them to rape their guests
Does anyone remeber GAC on the Amiga(i think it was on Amiga(so many old computers, so many memories(I can still play strek on my PDP-11!))).
I am quite astonished that I have read quite a few comments on this story and not one person has thought/commented about the ramifications for cloudy tubes.
What does ASP have to do with it? Are you an MSCE?
and I get 3GB for $60AU and you think 50GB is bad :(
Yes but would you classify your regional Vic area as a small rural community? What's the population?
People in some country areas (like me) have no choice unless they want to connect at 57.6(i think that's the speed Optus and other offer here - close to this). And I pay $60AU for every 3GB(that is up and down) with no unmetered content.
I worked as a CSR years ago in Australia. i was at the bottom of the heap as far as seniority went but I definitely would have had the power to cancel this fee without having to defer to someone higher up. I would have reported my actions after I had taken them and that is it. I personally couldn't work for a company in which i would need someone else's authority to make such an obvious decision.
The real news is that one of her first (if not the first) acts as PM was to cancel the public service advertisements pushing the super profits tax on the mining industry. I am of the opinion that we may never know what the real story behind all this bullshit is.
I am of that fringe whacko group who think that hey are all bastards and that the term 'right' describes the left and the right.
They leave if you don't pay them. My %deity% what a deal
I can already see my computer saying "what are you doing, Dave"? if I mistakenly visit a non-Conroy approved site. To all the people saying that Australia is turning towards totalitarianism you need to pay more attention as it is the whole Western world that is turning! Not just us.