Why do we let tiny Caribbean countries use data we are already collecting for ourselves? Because we are far richer than they are and it would be cruel to not share it with them just because they are poor. (The discussion would be different if this were something that say, Canada or Europe would benefit from, that can full well afford to split costs or do it themselves.)
also, we ship a lot of goods between the US and Caribbean, and knowing the weather effects those shipping routes.
Free for developers looking to make closed derivative works. Not free for society, other developers, and certianly not users.
Just because someone makes a closed fork, doesn't mean the original disappears. The original is still there and still free for users, still free for other developers, and society. Your statement is pure copyleft FUD.
If you want it to be "free," just go public domain it. GPL is about actually keeping software free, not providing a toolkit to proprietary developers.
The whole reason the BSD license exists is to explicitly provide protections to the original author that public domain doesn't explicitly provide, like indemnity to lack of fitness, warranty etc.
I personally prefer the GPL because of the guaranteed perpetual freedom (for users to hack it) that comes with it.
you've just managed to hit my personal pet peeve of the semantics that GPL advocates use in criticizing the BSD license. just because some one else takes a copy of BSD licensed code and makes it proprietary, doesn't mean the original code ceases to exist. If I take a project and license it under the BSD license, it'll always be out there under that license, no matter what happens to derivate works. It doesn't cease to exist in a way that allow people to poke at it and play with it (or even take another copy and run with it). My original code continues to exist. It'll still be there under the BSD license in long run as you put it.
*heh* then you haven't worked in the right jobs. As a sysadmin I watched horribly incompetent sysadmins get awards and huge congratulations and perks because while I managed to keep the servers I was responsible up while our network was getting attacked, theirs when down in a blaze of fire, which they couldn't fix, and spent days running around non-stop trying futilely to fix things. Huge efforts get noticed, making hard work look easy doesn't.
excuse me? what country have you been living in? The fifth ammendment say 'No Person' not no citizen... The right to habeas corpus along with just about every other right to trail/due process has been applied to all persons accused by the US, regardless of citizenship status, for just about all of our history as a country. It's only recently, since our war on terror, that these rights being applied to foreigners have been challenged.
Wait... what planet do you live on? I mean seriously, I've never met a single person ever who prefers a nipple to a trackpad. Especially when it's one of apple's excellent multi-touch trackpads.
Hi my name is jfrelinger, it is nice to meet you. I prefer the track point to the track pad. I've got friends who prefer the track point to the track pad. They even went so far as to buy replacement parts for their thinkpads to remove the trackpad from theirs. The track point is a hundred times better interface then the track pad. I HATE the track pad. I'm always hitting it by accident with my thumb, moving the the mouse all over the place while I'm trying to type. The track point never gets hit by accident. The track point is also right there next to you index finger when its sitting on the home row typing, meaning I can move my finger and use the mouse with out having to pick up my whole and and move it about just to move the mouse. Every time I get a new laptop I play with the new features on the track pads (like multi touch) and with in a few month end up disabling it in the bios so it stops bothering me.
if I'm not hurting you directly, leave me alone. Banning smoking indoors at bars; OK, even if the science is dubious at best (it actually shows that the only people with significantly heightened risk from secondhand smoke are people who are married to smokers). But to ban it on outdoor patios? The Germans seem to be able to drive at 100 mph without killing themselves more frequently than US or Canadian drivers. Mandatory bicycle helmets? It's my head, thank you; if I want to expose it to injury, that should be my choice, not yours. Ya know this kind of stupid thinking really irritates me. all the things you list really if you think for a few moment not all about you, but infact impact other people's lives. 1) banning smoking in bars isn't about your stupid right to have a cigarette with a beer. We've decided as a society (for right or wrong) that people have a right to work in smoke free environments. Our countries office workers, factory workers, bus drivers, etc. are sure that they won't have to spend day after day inhaling cigarette smoke unless they inflict it on them selves. Are our bartenders and waitresses such second class citizens that they should be denied the same right given to others? I'm not saying a smoke free work place should be a legal institution, but if we're going to have it, shouldn't it given to everybody? argue about the right issue. 2) I'll admit I don't have any meaningful comment on current speed limit situations, I'm not aware of car wreck statistics between the two countries, and having never driven in Germany I can't comment on the Autobahn. 3) Mandatory bicycle helmets. So fine its your head you'll screw up when you crash. So then what happens when you show up at a hospital unconscious? Should the doctors treat you? What if you can't afford it? What if helmet laws are repealed everywhere and suddenly there is a huge influx of head injuries to hospitals and they can't cope, and they then spend all their time fixing morons with no helmets and then have to start making triage decisions between you and a car wreck victim (or even worse some future subject of a lifetime move based on true events of a struggle of a woman to over come impossible odds).
I'm not advocating a protectionist/nanny state, but you're I'm not hurting anybody directly rant is crap. The correct choice is a middle ground (and on many issues I'll agree we're on the wrong end of the middle ground). all your if I'm not hurting you directly, leave me alone view just allows you to indirectly hurt people guilt free, and can lead people to agree with the grand parent's view that libertarians are people who desire freedom so that they can behave as poorly as possible without being called to account.
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Why do we let tiny Caribbean countries use data we are already collecting for ourselves? Because we are far richer than they are and it would be cruel to not share it with them just because they are poor. (The discussion would be different if this were something that say, Canada or Europe would benefit from, that can full well afford to split costs or do it themselves.)
also, we ship a lot of goods between the US and Caribbean, and knowing the weather effects those shipping routes.
Free for developers looking to make closed derivative works. Not free for society, other developers, and certianly not users.
Just because someone makes a closed fork, doesn't mean the original disappears. The original is still there and still free for users, still free for other developers, and society. Your statement is pure copyleft FUD.
If you want it to be "free," just go public domain it. GPL is about actually keeping software free, not providing a toolkit to proprietary developers.
The whole reason the BSD license exists is to explicitly provide protections to the original author that public domain doesn't explicitly provide, like indemnity to lack of fitness, warranty etc.
I personally prefer the GPL because of the guaranteed perpetual freedom (for users to hack it) that comes with it.
you've just managed to hit my personal pet peeve of the semantics that GPL advocates use in criticizing the BSD license. just because some one else takes a copy of BSD licensed code and makes it proprietary, doesn't mean the original code ceases to exist. If I take a project and license it under the BSD license, it'll always be out there under that license, no matter what happens to derivate works. It doesn't cease to exist in a way that allow people to poke at it and play with it (or even take another copy and run with it). My original code continues to exist. It'll still be there under the BSD license in long run as you put it.
*heh* then you haven't worked in the right jobs. As a sysadmin I watched horribly incompetent sysadmins get awards and huge congratulations and perks because while I managed to keep the servers I was responsible up while our network was getting attacked, theirs when down in a blaze of fire, which they couldn't fix, and spent days running around non-stop trying futilely to fix things. Huge efforts get noticed, making hard work look easy doesn't.
excuse me? what country have you been living in?
The fifth ammendment say 'No Person' not no citizen... The right to habeas corpus along with just about every other right to trail/due process has been applied to all persons accused by the US, regardless of citizenship status, for just about all of our history as a country. It's only recently, since our war on terror, that these rights being applied to foreigners have been challenged.
Wait... what planet do you live on? I mean seriously, I've never met a single person ever who prefers a nipple to a trackpad. Especially when it's one of apple's excellent multi-touch trackpads.
Hi my name is jfrelinger, it is nice to meet you.
I prefer the track point to the track pad. I've got friends who prefer the track point to the track pad. They even went so far as to buy replacement parts for their thinkpads to remove the trackpad from theirs. The track point is a hundred times better interface then the track pad. I HATE the track pad. I'm always hitting it by accident with my thumb, moving the the mouse all over the place while I'm trying to type. The track point never gets hit by accident. The track point is also right there next to you index finger when its sitting on the home row typing, meaning I can move my finger and use the mouse with out having to pick up my whole and and move it about just to move the mouse. Every time I get a new laptop I play with the new features on the track pads (like multi touch) and with in a few month end up disabling it in the bios so it stops bothering me.
1) banning smoking in bars isn't about your stupid right to have a cigarette with a beer. We've decided as a society (for right or wrong) that people have a right to work in smoke free environments. Our countries office workers, factory workers, bus drivers, etc. are sure that they won't have to spend day after day inhaling cigarette smoke unless they inflict it on them selves. Are our bartenders and waitresses such second class citizens that they should be denied the same right given to others? I'm not saying a smoke free work place should be a legal institution, but if we're going to have it, shouldn't it given to everybody? argue about the right issue.
2) I'll admit I don't have any meaningful comment on current speed limit situations, I'm not aware of car wreck statistics between the two countries, and having never driven in Germany I can't comment on the Autobahn.
3) Mandatory bicycle helmets. So fine its your head you'll screw up when you crash. So then what happens when you show up at a hospital unconscious? Should the doctors treat you? What if you can't afford it? What if helmet laws are repealed everywhere and suddenly there is a huge influx of head injuries to hospitals and they can't cope, and they then spend all their time fixing morons with no helmets and then have to start making triage decisions between you and a car wreck victim (or even worse some future subject of a lifetime move based on true events of a struggle of a woman to over come impossible odds).
I'm not advocating a protectionist/nanny state, but you're I'm not hurting anybody directly rant is crap. The correct choice is a middle ground (and on many issues I'll agree we're on the wrong end of the middle ground). all your if I'm not hurting you directly, leave me alone view just allows you to indirectly hurt people guilt free, and can lead people to agree with the grand parent's view that libertarians are people who desire freedom so that they can behave as poorly as possible without being called to account.