[......] please comprehend my arguments when I make them.
I think you're being a bit over optimistic there! If he was capable of comprehending your arguments, he wouldn't have had to gratuitously attack you in the first place.
I always smile when you youngsters show up and complain about how bad things are.;)
Thank you, grandad, i haven't been called a youngster for a long time and it's nice to be reminded there's someone older than me around!;-)
I made my first web page in 1996 (according to the wayback machine) using a text editor (probably vi or emacs - i don't remember) and i made my last web page a couple of weeks ago, using geany. I've never been able to see the point of wysiwyg web editors. Creating a mess with nightmareweaver and then spending time fixing up so it works in the real world seems pointless to me as it's not really any quicker or easier than doing it from scratch in a text editor.
[......] I wold recommend WordPress (another demo) if you don't intend to develop on it.
Developing with Wordpress is at least as easy as it is with Drupal. Writing plugins is simple and the Wordpress Codex has a vast amount of good documentation.
[......] wordpress for a blog, a CMS for a content driven site, Gallery for a photo gallery, etc
Wordpress is actually really good for all of those. It depends on exactly what you want to do, but WP is a good, full-featured CMS. I've used it for quite a few non-blog sites. It's also good for a photo gallery - just install the NextGen gallery plugin.
Not ideal with dynamic content or frameworks though.
Nightmareweaver isn't ideal for anything other than use by bodgy amateurs who don't know or care that it churns out really bad html and css - plus totally unnecessary javascript.
DW is your can't miss choice. It ain't cheap: $300 for the CS5.5 version; $150 if you're a student or teacher (and can prove it).
Forget nightmareweaver and the hideous, unmaintanable mess it churns out. You can buy a good book on html and css for a lot less than $300 and download geany for free.
If you're looking for a fully visual web site editor - Dreamweaver is still a great program.
Yeah, a great program for people who don't know what they're doing and want to churn out really bad html and css.
I had to clean up a lot of hideous nightmareweaver mess perpetrated by the previous incumbent in a web admin job i did for a while last year. I didn't think much of nightmareweaver before that, but i ended up totally loathing it.
[......] And that the energy of said phone is focussed away from your head (for the simply reason that you don't want to waste transmission power) [......]
Ridiculous! Phone antennas are omnidirectional. Suppose the BTS was the other side of your head from the phone - focussing the RF away from your head wouldn't work very well, would it?
Oh. I'm just coming up to the year mark. I'll find out, i guess. If it dies, i'll be chasing them through our fair trading laws. Anything under a couple of years is definitely not acceptable.
Have you tried using NDISwrapper? I haven't tried it myself, but if you are able to use the same driver as in Windows, everything *should* work the same way.
And it works even better in Gnome 3 - you can use the mouse or arrow keys to pick the window you want while you've got alt + tab held down. You can also use alt + ` (backtick - probably immediately above the tab key) to switch between different windows of the same app.
I have no idea how you can say multiple desktops don't give you more work space
Does it allow you to have more windows open on your screen at once? No. The screen's your work space, not some bunch of virtual desktops. Open windows in the foreground are where you work and multiple desktops don't allow you any more space for that. All it does is allows you to organise your background windows in a way that maybe suits you.
I can imagine if you regularly switch between several different tasks, all of which require an exclusive set of windows, and you stay with each task for a reasonable amount of time, then multiple desktops might save a bit of hassle. But all it really does is divide your window list into sections.
What is hard for me to accept is that you can't set up a panning X any more.
I can't remember the details now, and i don't think they withdrew support for it from all drivers, but a couple of years ago or so they dropped support for it from the driver that worked with my Thinkpad. I'd been using large virtual desktops for years, but after that, when i wasn't able to, i got used to a window-sized desktop and i never even tried setting the netbook i use nowadays up for it (even though it would probably be useful on a netbook!).
The problem, if you can call it that, is that the distro of choice for GNOME3 (Fedora 15) makes it a little hard to get going out of the box. It's not by any means insurmountable, but it's a little harder than it should be as some things are missing entirely (an Office suite really ought to come preinstalled) and playing "find the repo/RPM" is a lot harder than "It's probably already there, and if not it's trivial to find a PPA" of Ubuntu.
I dunno what a "PPA" is, but if you're finding it hard to install things like LibreOffice on Fedora, you're probably not using yumex. The first thing i install after a new Fedora install is yumex. It's not quite as good as synaptic, but it's close. The only repo you're likely to need, other than the default fedora ones, is rpmfusion - and it's trivial to install that from their web site.
i'm still on windowmaker, another mid-90s WM. it's clean, fast, practical and allows me to do some tricks at work that makes me much more productive than the guys who use gnome/unity/kde.
none of the new offerings can even provide you with a working desktop
Gnome 3 provides me with a desktop that works just as well as any other desktop i've used on linux systems over the last 15 years. It took a day or two to get used to it, but maybe i'm more adaptable than some.
Multiple desktops are a pain in the arse. They really don't give you any more work space than having all your windows piled up on one desktop - specially if you've got a small screen.
The only way to get more desktop realestate (it's impossible to get more screen realestate without replacing your monitor/laptop) is to use a virtual desktop that's bigger than your screen size. I used that setup for many years - until X stopped supporting it on my laptop's video card for some reason.
The fact is we need more screen realestate and 3d is one way of getting it.
3D doesn't give you any more screen realestate at all - it's just a different way of organizing your open windows. You've still only got the same number or pixels in your screen and it doesn't let you see more windows at once.
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[......] please comprehend my arguments when I make them.
I think you're being a bit over optimistic there! If he was capable of comprehending your arguments, he wouldn't have had to gratuitously attack you in the first place.
conscious or unconscious, is there really a difference? it's all one in the same, isn't it?
For some, yes.
I always smile when you youngsters show up and complain about how bad things are. ;)
Thank you, grandad, i haven't been called a youngster for a long time and it's nice to be reminded there's someone older than me around! ;-)
I made my first web page in 1996 (according to the wayback machine) using a text editor (probably vi or emacs - i don't remember) and i made my last web page a couple of weeks ago, using geany. I've never been able to see the point of wysiwyg web editors. Creating a mess with nightmareweaver and then spending time fixing up so it works in the real world seems pointless to me as it's not really any quicker or easier than doing it from scratch in a text editor.
[......] I wold recommend WordPress (another demo) if you don't intend to develop on it.
Developing with Wordpress is at least as easy as it is with Drupal. Writing plugins is simple and the Wordpress Codex has a vast amount of good documentation.
[......] wordpress for a blog, a CMS for a content driven site, Gallery for a photo gallery, etc
Wordpress is actually really good for all of those. It depends on exactly what you want to do, but WP is a good, full-featured CMS. I've used it for quite a few non-blog sites. It's also good for a photo gallery - just install the NextGen gallery plugin.
joe & bash shell
Don't forget lynx!
Not ideal with dynamic content or frameworks though.
Nightmareweaver isn't ideal for anything other than use by bodgy amateurs who don't know or care that it churns out really bad html and css - plus totally unnecessary javascript.
DW is your can't miss choice. It ain't cheap: $300 for the CS5.5 version; $150 if you're a student or teacher (and can prove it).
Forget nightmareweaver and the hideous, unmaintanable mess it churns out. You can buy a good book on html and css for a lot less than $300 and download geany for free.
If you're looking for a fully visual web site editor - Dreamweaver is still a great program.
Yeah, a great program for people who don't know what they're doing and want to churn out really bad html and css.
I had to clean up a lot of hideous nightmareweaver mess perpetrated by the previous incumbent in a web admin job i did for a while last year. I didn't think much of nightmareweaver before that, but i ended up totally loathing it.
Lean html and css and use geany!
[......] And that the energy of said phone is focussed away from your head (for the simply reason that you don't want to waste transmission power) [......]
Ridiculous! Phone antennas are omnidirectional. Suppose the BTS was the other side of your head from the phone - focussing the RF away from your head wouldn't work very well, would it?
Seriously, the problem is that substances can be healthy at one dose and toxic and/or carcinogenic at another.
Another serious problem is that substances can be healthy for one person and toxic and/or carcinogenic for another.
We called them "Reservations".
In Australia, the concentration camps were called "missions" - and run by christian missionaries.
Oh. I'm just coming up to the year mark. I'll find out, i guess. If it dies, i'll be chasing them through our fair trading laws. Anything under a couple of years is definitely not acceptable.
Have you tried using NDISwrapper? I haven't tried it myself, but if you are able to use the same driver as in Windows, everything *should* work the same way.
It does work the same way - badly!
And it works even better in Gnome 3 - you can use the mouse or arrow keys to pick the window you want while you've got alt + tab held down. You can also use alt + ` (backtick - probably immediately above the tab key) to switch between different windows of the same app.
I have no idea how you can say multiple desktops don't give you more work space
Does it allow you to have more windows open on your screen at once? No. The screen's your work space, not some bunch of virtual desktops. Open windows in the foreground are where you work and multiple desktops don't allow you any more space for that. All it does is allows you to organise your background windows in a way that maybe suits you.
I can imagine if you regularly switch between several different tasks, all of which require an exclusive set of windows, and you stay with each task for a reasonable amount of time, then multiple desktops might save a bit of hassle. But all it really does is divide your window list into sections.
What is hard for me to accept is that you can't set up a panning X any more.
I can't remember the details now, and i don't think they withdrew support for it from all drivers, but a couple of years ago or so they dropped support for it from the driver that worked with my Thinkpad. I'd been using large virtual desktops for years, but after that, when i wasn't able to, i got used to a window-sized desktop and i never even tried setting the netbook i use nowadays up for it (even though it would probably be useful on a netbook!).
[......] strange mouse gestures that take up the whole screen to shuffle between apps [......]
Try <alt><tab> - it's worked forever.
The problem, if you can call it that, is that the distro of choice for GNOME3 (Fedora 15) makes it a little hard to get going out of the box. It's not by any means insurmountable, but it's a little harder than it should be as some things are missing entirely (an Office suite really ought to come preinstalled) and playing "find the repo/RPM" is a lot harder than "It's probably already there, and if not it's trivial to find a PPA" of Ubuntu.
I dunno what a "PPA" is, but if you're finding it hard to install things like LibreOffice on Fedora, you're probably not using yumex. The first thing i install after a new Fedora install is yumex. It's not quite as good as synaptic, but it's close. The only repo you're likely to need, other than the default fedora ones, is rpmfusion - and it's trivial to install that from their web site.
i'm still on windowmaker, another mid-90s WM. it's clean, fast, practical and allows me to do some tricks at work that makes me much more productive than the guys who use gnome/unity/kde.
I hope they pay you more for that!
twm works for fine me.
What's wrong with bash?
Posts like this are the reason people don't want to use Linux.
People do want to use linux - lots of them.
none of the new offerings can even provide you with a working desktop
Gnome 3 provides me with a desktop that works just as well as any other desktop i've used on linux systems over the last 15 years. It took a day or two to get used to it, but maybe i'm more adaptable than some.
I still don't understand why KDE and Gnome are such big deals
They're not - unless you're a nerd who enjoys wasting time fiddling around with pointless things for the sake of it.
Multiple desktops are a pain in the arse. They really don't give you any more work space than having all your windows piled up on one desktop - specially if you've got a small screen.
The only way to get more desktop realestate (it's impossible to get more screen realestate without replacing your monitor/laptop) is to use a virtual desktop that's bigger than your screen size. I used that setup for many years - until X stopped supporting it on my laptop's video card for some reason.
The fact is we need more screen realestate and 3d is one way of getting it.
3D doesn't give you any more screen realestate at all - it's just a different way of organizing your open windows. You've still only got the same number or pixels in your screen and it doesn't let you see more windows at once.