um, after looking at the licence it does allow distrobution of the modifications though. You just have to realease the modifications as patches rather than including them in the source code, this does not seem to be an onerous enough requirement to say "this is not free software" it's not GNU GPL compliant, but it's not preventing you from distributing your changes or the orignal program, with your changes as a clearly marked set of patches.
What the fuck are you talking about with Linux being nont tolerant of change. I've never had any problems with it myself. maybe you're doing something wrong. I don't go around changing things out willy nilly, but I've had less hassles changing networks, or changing hardware under Linux than under Windows.
Remotly log in, having the same environment as localy from any internet connected box right after a standard install and less than 5 minutes of configuration?
Yes, it was written, then the open source comunity looked at it and said "My GOD this is CRAP" so they started over from scratch. So those lovely usablility features you are talking about were taken apart, sold for scrap, and implemented from just an idea of what they did. In fact even the UI had to be re-writen, the original UI was in Mozaic, the Mozilla UI is in GTK+. Like I said, thanks for playing but Moz is not an example of proprietary goodness, except that they used ideas from the proprietary product, not any of the code from the product itself.
The code was complety re-writen on Mozilla, so no dice, thanks for playing though, and OO.o was open sourced of a closed source app. so I guess it's halfway ok.
I was going to copy and paste the output of those commands, but slashdot's lameness filter won't let me. anyway the help command IS there. and as far as win, well, I can type startx instead, not much less intuitive.
Dude, sweet!!!! I'd offer you a chaw of chew, but I don't chew. Well, and I'm in the US not Scotland. Well, I guess it's not the greatest idea, heck I don't even know if rednecks in Scotland chew. *shrugs*
I never claimed it was a bug, I simply described the behavior in a non-judgemental manner. However you are right, it's a feature not a bug. I rember the long string assholes fucking up entire pages, and the slight inconvinence is well worth it.
Um, John Deere cheap? are you looking at the same stores I'm looking at? I do know farmers that swear by both. I know a lot of people who own Green Tractors, and a lot of people who own Red tractors, not a few who own White tractors, of course the realy fancy tractors are the Yellow ones. All these colored paints seem to be expensive though.
Yeah, but slash puts spaces in long strings with no spaces, so you have to do a hyperlink for people to be able to go there without editing it. so this beowulf link works but this http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other- formats/html_single/Beowulf-HOWTO.html gets an extra space in it and doesn't.
Here here brother, from the great state of KS where we destroy more crops than most countries produce, I'd love to see a USE for all the wheat that needs taken out of the market for price control. Wiskey powered cars, penut powered tanks, Nobody will ever be able to beat the US on it's sheer agricultural might. Once the Military isn't dependant on foriegn energy sources we can tell OPEC to suck our balls, and cut all the ill fitting alliences we have with realy pretty bad people in the mid-east. Well, I'm done ranting for now.
That's why good programers write their code as self contained functions and do as little as posible in line. And only steal from other good programers, or rewrite interesting hacks with good style. Of course then you run into dependancy hell, but realy only in languages that support linking. In non-linked langues like javascript, everything is included in the page anyway.
You're right, I do want to go back to the greatest OS ever invented, but fortunatly I'm about to go home, so my GNU/Linux box is only about half an hour away.
Dude, lay off the troll juice a little. I have used Windows XP and I have to say that plucking out my eyeballs with a shopvack would be less painfull than that candy coated shitfest. I used to think that KDE was to damned cartooney, but then I saw OS X and XP and I decided that EVERYONE is going cartooney, then RHS betrayed me with that abomination that is Blue Curve. STRAIGHT LINES people, I want STRAIGHT LINES, and not disgusitng bubble gum colors, make things look like something that a profetional would use, not a crappy candy coated bloatfest. Anyway I guess I'm done ranting. For now anyway.
What are you talking about? The less someone does on windows the faster they learn Gnome or KDE because there is less to unlearn. It's already to the level that someone can manage their documents, read e-mail and browse the web.
I've always been fond of flat files myself. Of course what you do is write a "database" front end to flat files for your users, then tell them, ok use this for your data, write in a bit of data manipulation, and voila you don't have to deal with excell used as a database. Write it in perl or basic and you don't even need to compile it. before I get flames I'd like to point out that a basic interpereter comes with windows, so it makes some sence in a limited sort of way to use. perl is an easy donwload though, as is gcc. YMMV
You act as if no US soldiers died under clinton, that's simply untrue. Clinton got us into rat fucks all over the world. At least wtih Bush the soldiers were honored and died for the interests of their country rather than solely the interests of their country's leader.
What version of redhat were you installing that it copied the entire cd to the hard drive before installing? I've never had it do that. Of course, in the course of installing it did copy more stuff to the HD than the entire capacity of all 3 disks, but well, that's what you get when you chose "Intall Everything" You do have choices when you install. You can chose one DE, and one browser, as long as it's either Moz, Konq, Links or Lynx, you can chose to install without a GUI, you can chose what servers, and if you don't want to install it, it stays on the pretty red coasters.
I personaly like all the choices, and the fact that most things "Just Work" I like that I have an uptime measured in months, and that I only have to go down for hardware problems. I like that I don't have viruses. I do run anti-virus software though, because there are just a few out there. I like that my computer downloads it's patches itself, fixes itself, and doesn't need me to do anything except sit back and enjoy browsing, e-mail IM and chat.
So, no you don't have to store all your choices on your hard drive, you can simplify, of you can go full bore. If you want a simple, minimal distro try Knoppix, everything on just one cd, no install needed. I like the power of multi-cd spanning distros personaly, but hey, to each his own.
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You know, a serious reply from the author and no downmodding, I realy should troll as an AC
I run Linux You insensitve clod.
Wack, it's gota be Wack, after all this is windows we're talking about.
um, after looking at the licence it does allow distrobution of the modifications though. You just have to realease the modifications as patches rather than including them in the source code, this does not seem to be an onerous enough requirement to say "this is not free software" it's not GNU GPL compliant, but it's not preventing you from distributing your changes or the orignal program, with your changes as a clearly marked set of patches.
What the fuck are you talking about with Linux being nont tolerant of change. I've never had any problems with it myself. maybe you're doing something wrong. I don't go around changing things out willy nilly, but I've had less hassles changing networks, or changing hardware under Linux than under Windows.
Remotly log in, having the same environment as localy from any internet connected box right after a standard install and less than 5 minutes of configuration?
Yes, it was written, then the open source comunity looked at it and said "My GOD this is CRAP" so they started over from scratch. So those lovely usablility features you are talking about were taken apart, sold for scrap, and implemented from just an idea of what they did. In fact even the UI had to be re-writen, the original UI was in Mozaic, the Mozilla UI is in GTK+. Like I said, thanks for playing but Moz is not an example of proprietary goodness, except that they used ideas from the proprietary product, not any of the code from the product itself.
The code was complety re-writen on Mozilla, so no dice, thanks for playing though, and OO.o was open sourced of a closed source app. so I guess it's halfway ok.
I was going to copy and paste the output of those commands, but slashdot's lameness filter won't let me. anyway the help command IS there. and as far as win, well, I can type startx instead, not much less intuitive.
Dude, sweet!!!! I'd offer you a chaw of chew, but I don't chew. Well, and I'm in the US not Scotland. Well, I guess it's not the greatest idea, heck I don't even know if rednecks in Scotland chew. *shrugs*
I never claimed it was a bug, I simply described the behavior in a non-judgemental manner. However you are right, it's a feature not a bug. I rember the long string assholes fucking up entire pages, and the slight inconvinence is well worth it.
Um, John Deere cheap? are you looking at the same stores I'm looking at? I do know farmers that swear by both. I know a lot of people who own Green Tractors, and a lot of people who own Red tractors, not a few who own White tractors, of course the realy fancy tractors are the Yellow ones. All these colored paints seem to be expensive though.
Never mind me, I forgot the point of this rant.
Yeah, but slash puts spaces in long strings with no spaces, so you have to do a hyperlink for people to be able to go there without editing it. so this beowulf link works but this http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other- formats/html_single/Beowulf-HOWTO.html gets an extra space in it and doesn't.
Here here brother, from the great state of KS where we destroy more crops than most countries produce, I'd love to see a USE for all the wheat that needs taken out of the market for price control. Wiskey powered cars, penut powered tanks, Nobody will ever be able to beat the US on it's sheer agricultural might. Once the Military isn't dependant on foriegn energy sources we can tell OPEC to suck our balls, and cut all the ill fitting alliences we have with realy pretty bad people in the mid-east. Well, I'm done ranting for now.
That's why good programers write their code as self contained functions and do as little as posible in line. And only steal from other good programers, or rewrite interesting hacks with good style. Of course then you run into dependancy hell, but realy only in languages that support linking. In non-linked langues like javascript, everything is included in the page anyway.
Yeah, that'd be cool, to bad I was using IE from work to make that post.
You're right, I do want to go back to the greatest OS ever invented, but fortunatly I'm about to go home, so my GNU/Linux box is only about half an hour away.
Dude, lay off the troll juice a little. I have used Windows XP and I have to say that plucking out my eyeballs with a shopvack would be less painfull than that candy coated shitfest. I used to think that KDE was to damned cartooney, but then I saw OS X and XP and I decided that EVERYONE is going cartooney, then RHS betrayed me with that abomination that is Blue Curve. STRAIGHT LINES people, I want STRAIGHT LINES, and not disgusitng bubble gum colors, make things look like something that a profetional would use, not a crappy candy coated bloatfest. Anyway I guess I'm done ranting. For now anyway.
Most of the time it is. the only times I've recompiled my kernel have been becasue I've wanted to.
What are you talking about? The less someone does on windows the faster they learn Gnome or KDE because there is less to unlearn. It's already to the level that someone can manage their documents, read e-mail and browse the web.
Yeah, just imagine how much better Linux would be if we had a usable product to compete against.
Naw, You're a rennecked geek, welcome to the scociety of Reneck Geeks. Long live the Scociety of Redneck Geeks!!!!!
I've always been fond of flat files myself. Of course what you do is write a "database" front end to flat files for your users, then tell them, ok use this for your data, write in a bit of data manipulation, and voila you don't have to deal with excell used as a database. Write it in perl or basic and you don't even need to compile it. before I get flames I'd like to point out that a basic interpereter comes with windows, so it makes some sence in a limited sort of way to use. perl is an easy donwload though, as is gcc. YMMV
You act as if no US soldiers died under clinton, that's simply untrue. Clinton got us into rat fucks all over the world. At least wtih Bush the soldiers were honored and died for the interests of their country rather than solely the interests of their country's leader.
I personaly like all the choices, and the fact that most things "Just Work" I like that I have an uptime measured in months, and that I only have to go down for hardware problems. I like that I don't have viruses. I do run anti-virus software though, because there are just a few out there. I like that my computer downloads it's patches itself, fixes itself, and doesn't need me to do anything except sit back and enjoy browsing, e-mail IM and chat.
So, no you don't have to store all your choices on your hard drive, you can simplify, of you can go full bore. If you want a simple, minimal distro try Knoppix, everything on just one cd, no install needed. I like the power of multi-cd spanning distros personaly, but hey, to each his own.