Yeah, that was a great book, and makes the whole concept much more human. Why is it that we always buy cases when we could really just shove all of the components into a custom made one. Maybe I will take all of my computer's guts, and make a nice redwood case. Now, all I gotta do is cool it.
My friend up at school and I were going to paint our cases. If this website I am working on takes off, maybe I'll come up with a really cool case design. A lot of the iMac inspired cases are cool... The G3&4 cases are cool, but not the iMac ones (ICK!). I dislike that one penguin case, looks like a kids toy. Gotta love the iMac fishbowl though.
Well, I was offered a job that pays real money this year, but at the bequest of several individuals, stuck with my current job (though I am not next year). It's 2 hours wages for me, and 1/2 hours wages at the job I was offered... and still not worth the price. $20 is wayy too much for a CD. If the artist were getting all of that money, and it sold 1 million copies, they would get getting 20 MILLION dollars for 1 CD, which is kind of outrageous, since that doesn't include the money for touring and videos and merchandise. Since the record company keeps most of it. It's more like 15 MILLION to some dude who doesn't even play music. And 5 to the band.
Just in case anybody else HASN'T GOTTEN THE POINT YET.
There are lots of GENDER-NEUTRAL/MALE/FEMALE/WHATEVER wannabes in the tech field.
That was the point.
The other bit was, that there may be a few more female wanna be's because of programs that push women into it. You, who apparently went to private school, have NEVER seen these programs, because they are pretty much a public school phenomenon. Trust me, there were plenty of girls that I knew who didn't really want to have anything to do with technical fields who were told, "why not go into a tech field."
That said.
I know PLENTY of successful female techs. I'm sure that females are just as capable, and the last thing that I want is a wife who just sits at home. I want one who works too.
IF I judged these programs unfairly, I'm sorry. Some, I am sure, are very good. My post was meant as an attack to the mentality of boosting a single gender rather than just helping out ALL kids who show ability (yes, there is favoritism towards females). It was NOT meant as an attack on females wishing to enter technical fields.
Actually, I was sort of nit-picking her, since she had chosen to call me sexist in reply to a comment which was clearly not sexist in nature. #18 on this thread. I'm sure she's a nice girl and all, but I really am sick of people thinking that they can just toss a flame out as long as it's seemingly politically correct.
I read your bio, how is it that you will be "trapped" by CS if there is nobody pushing you in that direction. I've almost graduated and I could still change my major with 1 phone call. Sorry to be so confrontational towards you, but I find posts that blindly condemn me to be rather... irritating.
I find most of your posts gender insensitive (as you labelled me). There are plenty of females in technical fields. You should have said "they" not "he."
That's ironic, since I know MANY pro-choice women. Also, since the argument that you made is that you haven't met any who are pro-life. I also know MANY pro-lifers. Men have to live with the consequences too. Have you ever heard of alimony? How would you like to have a kid that you don't even know because the girl who had the kid doesn't want you to. So, you pay for the kid, and never even get to meet them.
Also, girls have the option to *gasp* abstain from sex.
I'm pro-choice. I have sex. I have little against abortion. Your argument still doesn't hold much water. Yes, you are a male hater. You haven't thought about the being a male in that situation at all. You also didn't even read my post before labeling me some kind of misogynist.
The point of my post was that EVERYONE is glutting the CS field. I was saying that it WASN'T specific to any sex, though I didn't make this point clearly. Sorry if I offended anyone. There are plenty of male wanna-be's too.
As a computer science student, I see a LOT of people who pretty much got into CS because they were told it's a good thing. I'm not saying that ALL women are failures in CS, in fact, most of them do fine, but I know of only a handful that have stayed in our department, but that goes for men too. Men who enter CS because they were told to tend to drop out too. A good friend of mine is a female CS drop out (still in college, just other studies). I don't recall ever telling women to stay away from computer science. If they have a genuine interest in CS, they will enter the program anyways. One of my professors is an EXTREMELY accomplished female computer scientist, and I'm not going to say she's old, but she's certainly wasn't in high school in the 90's. I've never seen a professor stand up in class and say, "Gee woman, get outta here, this is man country." Also, I know a couple of stay-at-home dads myself. I think that, as it goes, I have a pretty enlightened and straightfoward view in this area. No offense, but I think that you are a bit oversensitive and too quick to attack me based on the grounds that I'm sort of male-centric chauvenist mysogenist bastard. Sorry you think that way. I was in high school in the 90s. There are a LOT of programs designed specifically to get girls involved, and not one that says, "JUST MEN." I'm all for equality, but there is DEFINATELY some pushing going on to push for more women in the field. Thanks for crucifying me over something that I really didn't say. I should have you know that I am probably one of the LAST people who would ever tell someone to stay at home on the basis that they are female, and if you had actually read my post with an unbiased mind, instead of just taking the opportunity to flame me, perhaps you would have seen that. Thanks for being closed minded.
You mean "the shiny things network?" I don't watch it much, but then, I don't watch TV much. I leave ZDTV on for background noise and a good occasional laugh.
Funny, but what I meant is a home that is partly funded by the department of Housing and Urban Development. You probably already knew that, but perhaps some people missed it.
The other day I heard someone say how the words of the founding fathers of the United States, upon which the US government is supposedly based and the people proud of, would be considered radical and dangerous these days.
To quote the TV series "Daria," "It's a sick, sad, world."
But lets face it, it's really a case of people wanting to keep the silenced silent.
While there are certainly plenty of technically oriented women (my boss for instance), there are also plenty who just want to be associated with it. Then again, there are a lot of men who just want to be associated with it to. A lot of women are pushed into it by school programs/guidance counselors/the people who tell you what you should be. If you're a female, you should forget your plans of being a stay at home mom (if that's what you want), because that's just what society is telling you, you should become a computer tech of some sort. This is what we tell women. Ironically, we are telling women to go into a technically oriented field, and we are telling them that this is to avoid doing what society tells them.
The result of EVERYONE glutting technical fields is that not everyone can actually do it or has the motivation to do it, so they become some sort of pseudo-tech. They read the M$ website and write product reviews based on statements and benchmarks that they don't actually understand, and write analyses of the culture along with them.
Oh well, just a thought, though I wouldn't center it on women, even if the reason that I wouldn't is merely to avoid being labelled sexist, evil, bad, bigotted, terrible, and worthy of being shot on the charges of possesion of male chromosomes and physical features.
The ePlethora of cyberbuzzwords in the technotitle of this 1337 piece of subculture iLiterature (-- my fave) make this the hacker culture paradigm must read of 2000. Download this to your netburned brain today!
While I am not terribly politically active, and I don't believe in EVERYTHING that the party does, I am a member of the Libertarian Party.
Minimizing government on all sides is NOT exactly a bad thing. Polyamory isn't. Everybody gets to have a good time without anybody's feelings getting too hurt. People entrenched in old ways of thinking attack those who question these ways of thinking, which is why attacks are made on such points of view. What is wrong with living and letting live. I believe in having a government, I believe in helping the needy, but there are MANY ways to do that, and forcing everyone to do so isn't the best way to go about it. Why attack the rich just because they don't dump half of their fortune into homeless shelters. I want to help the homeless. I tell you what, move out of your house, and into an apartment, take the difference in rent against your mortgage and buy a HUD for a homeless person. Are you going to do it? Skip your next family vacation so you can pay for someone else's college tuition. Are you going to do it?
Before you attack the wealthy for their practices (and I am by no means wealthy, being only a college student), look and see if you would do the same, in reality, given their position. Before you attack a certain culture for its practices, remember that we don't go out to cultural festivals and yell at people for taking part in that culture. You ever smoke a cigarette? Guess what? It's bad for you. You started smoking because all of your friends did, probably. You probably didn't go into a store one day and say, "Marlboro Reds, boy, they sound good, lets give smoking a whirl." So what if people want to be polyamorous.
Just because your heart is bleeding doesn't mean that someone else has to take care of it, go and take care of it yourself, that's what I'm doing.
That's pretty cool, so now, when I go to the airport, I could have some cute, funky college chick feel my aura and tell me if I'm a terrorist, and then wave me through to the airplane.
I, personally love the watch, it would go well on my exgf and match her cute glasses, but I would picture the production model with either a chrome or gold finish, or removable plates. Perhaps iMac colors, which are strangely fashionable (nobody conservative would have thought in the 80s, now they would all wear one).
Linux, which was developed by Finnish programmer Linus Torvalds, is used for many basic functions of Web sites, but is not yet considered mature enough for heavier business tasks.
Who'd they get this quote from? Some kid in HS telling them how Linux is a 1337 hax0r OS?
Cute article, mostly fluff. There are about 4 hard facts in it.
1)Linux is an Operating System. Kinda like Windows, (GEE!)
2)IBM put Linux on a wristwatch.
3)Linux Torvalds has something to do with all of this.
4)IBM isn't going to sell the watch, boo hoo.
No offense to the author of the article, but WHERE DID YOU GET THAT QUOTE?
How many supercomputers do you know run by NT? Which webserver has the highest marketshare? Is it IIS? Noo... Where do you come up with this stuff? Most computers are developed with some form of Unix, it might not be Linux, but certainly more people trust a Unix than trust NT. No offense, but I trust Linux WAYYY more than NT based on REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE.
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Yeah, that was a great book, and makes the whole concept much more human. Why is it that we always buy cases when we could really just shove all of the components into a custom made one. Maybe I will take all of my computer's guts, and make a nice redwood case. Now, all I gotta do is cool it.
My friend up at school and I were going to paint our cases. If this website I am working on takes off, maybe I'll come up with a really cool case design. A lot of the iMac inspired cases are cool... The G3&4 cases are cool, but not the iMac ones (ICK!). I dislike that one penguin case, looks like a kids toy. Gotta love the iMac fishbowl though.
That was meant aimed at a fellow perlmonk.
Sorry about that, you rock.
Well, I was offered a job that pays real money this year, but at the bequest of several individuals, stuck with my current job (though I am not next year). It's 2 hours wages for me, and 1/2 hours wages at the job I was offered... and still not worth the price. $20 is wayy too much for a CD. If the artist were getting all of that money, and it sold 1 million copies, they would get getting 20 MILLION dollars for 1 CD, which is kind of outrageous, since that doesn't include the money for touring and videos and merchandise. Since the record company keeps most of it. It's more like 15 MILLION to some dude who doesn't even play music. And 5 to the band.
I agree with you on this one, pretty weak.
But I'm still not sexist.
Just in case anybody else HASN'T GOTTEN THE POINT YET.
There are lots of GENDER-NEUTRAL/MALE/FEMALE/WHATEVER wannabes in the tech field.
That was the point.
The other bit was, that there may be a few more female wanna be's because of programs that push women into it. You, who apparently went to private school, have NEVER seen these programs, because they are pretty much a public school phenomenon. Trust me, there were plenty of girls that I knew who didn't really want to have anything to do with technical fields who were told, "why not go into a tech field."
That said.
I know PLENTY of successful female techs. I'm sure that females are just as capable, and the last thing that I want is a wife who just sits at home. I want one who works too.
IF I judged these programs unfairly, I'm sorry. Some, I am sure, are very good. My post was meant as an attack to the mentality of boosting a single gender rather than just helping out ALL kids who show ability (yes, there is favoritism towards females). It was NOT meant as an attack on females wishing to enter technical fields.
Actually, I was sort of nit-picking her, since she had chosen to call me sexist in reply to a comment which was clearly not sexist in nature. #18 on this thread. I'm sure she's a nice girl and all, but I really am sick of people thinking that they can just toss a flame out as long as it's seemingly politically correct.
Sorry to have been so harsh.
I read your bio, how is it that you will be "trapped" by CS if there is nobody pushing you in that direction. I've almost graduated and I could still change my major with 1 phone call. Sorry to be so confrontational towards you, but I find posts that blindly condemn me to be rather... irritating.
I find most of your posts gender insensitive (as you labelled me). There are plenty of females in technical fields. You should have said "they" not "he."
That's ironic, since I know MANY pro-choice women. Also, since the argument that you made is that you haven't met any who are pro-life. I also know MANY pro-lifers. Men have to live with the consequences too. Have you ever heard of alimony? How would you like to have a kid that you don't even know because the girl who had the kid doesn't want you to. So, you pay for the kid, and never even get to meet them.
Also, girls have the option to *gasp* abstain from sex.
I'm pro-choice. I have sex. I have little against abortion. Your argument still doesn't hold much water. Yes, you are a male hater. You haven't thought about the being a male in that situation at all. You also didn't even read my post before labeling me some kind of misogynist.
The point of my post was that EVERYONE is glutting the CS field. I was saying that it WASN'T specific to any sex, though I didn't make this point clearly. Sorry if I offended anyone. There are plenty of male wanna-be's too.
As a computer science student, I see a LOT of people who pretty much got into CS because they were told it's a good thing. I'm not saying that ALL women are failures in CS, in fact, most of them do fine, but I know of only a handful that have stayed in our department, but that goes for men too. Men who enter CS because they were told to tend to drop out too. A good friend of mine is a female CS drop out (still in college, just other studies). I don't recall ever telling women to stay away from computer science. If they have a genuine interest in CS, they will enter the program anyways. One of my professors is an EXTREMELY accomplished female computer scientist, and I'm not going to say she's old, but she's certainly wasn't in high school in the 90's. I've never seen a professor stand up in class and say, "Gee woman, get outta here, this is man country." Also, I know a couple of stay-at-home dads myself. I think that, as it goes, I have a pretty enlightened and straightfoward view in this area. No offense, but I think that you are a bit oversensitive and too quick to attack me based on the grounds that I'm sort of male-centric chauvenist mysogenist bastard. Sorry you think that way. I was in high school in the 90s. There are a LOT of programs designed specifically to get girls involved, and not one that says, "JUST MEN." I'm all for equality, but there is DEFINATELY some pushing going on to push for more women in the field. Thanks for crucifying me over something that I really didn't say. I should have you know that I am probably one of the LAST people who would ever tell someone to stay at home on the basis that they are female, and if you had actually read my post with an unbiased mind, instead of just taking the opportunity to flame me, perhaps you would have seen that. Thanks for being closed minded.
It's in Real or Windows Media Player - bleah.
I think you said it right there. At least 1 of them runs under linux (though the company's morals are questionable at best).
You mean "the shiny things network?" I don't watch it much, but then, I don't watch TV much. I leave ZDTV on for background noise and a good occasional laugh.
Funny, but what I meant is a home that is partly funded by the department of Housing and Urban Development. You probably already knew that, but perhaps some people missed it.
The other day I heard someone say how the words of the founding fathers of the United States, upon which the US government is supposedly based and the people proud of, would be considered radical and dangerous these days.
To quote the TV series "Daria," "It's a sick, sad, world."
But lets face it, it's really a case of people wanting to keep the silenced silent.
While there are certainly plenty of technically oriented women (my boss for instance), there are also plenty who just want to be associated with it. Then again, there are a lot of men who just want to be associated with it to. A lot of women are pushed into it by school programs/guidance counselors/the people who tell you what you should be. If you're a female, you should forget your plans of being a stay at home mom (if that's what you want), because that's just what society is telling you, you should become a computer tech of some sort. This is what we tell women. Ironically, we are telling women to go into a technically oriented field, and we are telling them that this is to avoid doing what society tells them.
The result of EVERYONE glutting technical fields is that not everyone can actually do it or has the motivation to do it, so they become some sort of pseudo-tech. They read the M$ website and write product reviews based on statements and benchmarks that they don't actually understand, and write analyses of the culture along with them.
Oh well, just a thought, though I wouldn't center it on women, even if the reason that I wouldn't is merely to avoid being labelled sexist, evil, bad, bigotted, terrible, and worthy of being shot on the charges of possesion of male chromosomes and physical features.
We posted that at like the same time, but your thoughts are more well organized.
Totally dude, Libertarian is a pretty easy label too because just about everyone can fit into that group.
The ePlethora of cyberbuzzwords in the technotitle of this 1337 piece of subculture iLiterature (-- my fave) make this the hacker culture paradigm must read of 2000. Download this to your netburned brain today!
While I am not terribly politically active, and I don't believe in EVERYTHING that the party does, I am a member of the Libertarian Party.
Minimizing government on all sides is NOT exactly a bad thing. Polyamory isn't. Everybody gets to have a good time without anybody's feelings getting too hurt. People entrenched in old ways of thinking attack those who question these ways of thinking, which is why attacks are made on such points of view. What is wrong with living and letting live. I believe in having a government, I believe in helping the needy, but there are MANY ways to do that, and forcing everyone to do so isn't the best way to go about it. Why attack the rich just because they don't dump half of their fortune into homeless shelters. I want to help the homeless. I tell you what, move out of your house, and into an apartment, take the difference in rent against your mortgage and buy a HUD for a homeless person. Are you going to do it? Skip your next family vacation so you can pay for someone else's college tuition. Are you going to do it?
Before you attack the wealthy for their practices (and I am by no means wealthy, being only a college student), look and see if you would do the same, in reality, given their position. Before you attack a certain culture for its practices, remember that we don't go out to cultural festivals and yell at people for taking part in that culture. You ever smoke a cigarette? Guess what? It's bad for you. You started smoking because all of your friends did, probably. You probably didn't go into a store one day and say, "Marlboro Reds, boy, they sound good, lets give smoking a whirl." So what if people want to be polyamorous.
Just because your heart is bleeding doesn't mean that someone else has to take care of it, go and take care of it yourself, that's what I'm doing.
That's pretty cool, so now, when I go to the airport, I could have some cute, funky college chick feel my aura and tell me if I'm a terrorist, and then wave me through to the airplane.
Far out man!
I, personally love the watch, it would go well on my exgf and match her cute glasses, but I would picture the production model with either a chrome or gold finish, or removable plates. Perhaps iMac colors, which are strangely fashionable (nobody conservative would have thought in the 80s, now they would all wear one).
Linux, which was developed by Finnish programmer Linus Torvalds, is used for many basic functions of Web sites, but is not yet considered mature enough for heavier business tasks.
Who'd they get this quote from? Some kid in HS telling them how Linux is a 1337 hax0r OS?
Cute article, mostly fluff. There are about 4 hard facts in it.
1)Linux is an Operating System. Kinda like Windows, (GEE!)
2)IBM put Linux on a wristwatch.
3)Linux Torvalds has something to do with all of this.
4)IBM isn't going to sell the watch, boo hoo.
No offense to the author of the article, but WHERE DID YOU GET THAT QUOTE?
How many supercomputers do you know run by NT? Which webserver has the highest marketshare? Is it IIS? Noo... Where do you come up with this stuff? Most computers are developed with some form of Unix, it might not be Linux, but certainly more people trust a Unix than trust NT. No offense, but I trust Linux WAYYY more than NT based on REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE.