Your theory fails to account for the enourmous population Zion achieves over the course of 100 years. Only if they woke up 30, or even 100 people from the 'matrix', and they each had say 5 children of their own, and after 20 years their children had children and so on, would you be able to achieve Zion's population(my math is off, but they have to screw like bunnies to get this). Therefore the Zionians(?) have to be inhabitants from the original earth. Or, perhaps they do just breed like rabbits, which would explain the bizarre rave/orgy scene. Just a thought.
Not to mention the portability aspect of PS2's. Personally, I'd rather lug my ~15 lb. PS2 to different rooms of my house, and different houses, rather than my ~60 lb. computer.
I don't anyone would have a problem dealing with the fidelity of moving their consciousness from their brain to a computer when their life is at an end. I suppose the process would only occur based on your own ethics, but if I was on my last breath, I would have no problem continuing my life as a machine.
This is a good first step in the internationalization of space exploration... We can't have feeble agencies like NASA doing this for us, we need a strong international backbone with cash from many nations to lead us into space. I wouldn't be surprised if the UN became concentrated on space exploration. --
Cheats are a downright manipulation of software.. thats hacking. And i respect that people can manipulate software bugs to their advantage. That is, untill cheats become more popular. Then its just script kiddie software:) --
This anti-mac article was written in a period where macintosh was in lots of trouble and was not at the elevated position it holds now... there was a lot of anti-mac thinking going on, fueled by the rise of linux and the acceptance of microsoft's monopoly by the many, and this article merely panders to the masses. I think GUI has little to do with how one interacts with the computer. As long as the operating system is customizable, after time, it molds into the user's perfect interface. --
a new kind of media is needed to take control of the industry now that we are in a new age of technology, cd-roms are infeasable due to aesthetics, it's large and clunky size, and in storage space. I think floppy disks have a much better design, and the standard amount of gigabytes would fit perfect into something the size of a floppy, using a one-gig-per-matchbook area as a measurement. true, small media is harder to identify than cdroms(well, floppies arent), but perhaps that can be solved with catalogings and a hand held bar code reader tells what information is on the disk by just scanning a sticker on it. --
Well Adams is an atheist(i've read that in many bios and interviews), and one of the ways he shows it is by 'disproving' god in the hhgttg books.. How can there be meaning in a godless world? I've found the books probably the most depressing thing i've ever read(Shakespearean tragedies dont even compete with Adams... Adams tells the truth and the tragedy is fact, not based on our emotions when reading these stories). And with all the amazing scientific advancements in the series, it really makes man feel worthless... Computers can do more than anything imagined or able to be done by man, time travel can help accomplish all feats ever existing in the universe(time travel to the last day and i would suppose the beings that exist would know all).. what can man do then? --
First off, this is the greatest story ever to be on slashdot and i'm amazed the man who's books made me feel like a spec of dust in the universe is on the dot. Anyway, i remember reading your bio on one of your book jackets(and again in interviews) saying you are a avid supporter of the macintosh... I suppose they were published a while ago, so your views mightve changed, but do you still suport mac? What kind of computer(s) are you running now? What do you see as the future of the computer industry? Any thoughts on linux and open source(do you even know what they are)?? Thanks, and i can't wait to see more works from you(what the hell hapenned to the hhgttg movie plan anyway?)
This whole field is very philosophically disturbing. It turned me into an existentialist the first time i read about it! I figure, its kind of pointless just to copy your brain into the computer to live.. the only uses for that are to concentrate a digital being on thinking, so we can come to it like the wise man on top of the mountain(with all the worlds brains working as one computer, we can get some answers quick!). But for fidelity, you have to be able to go back and forth from computer to brain, otherwise its very pointless.
Great, why don't you just run that Japanese cartoon that gave everyone seizures? It would be just as annoying. You don't need a Turing test to disprove the existence of the 'soul.' Wake up.
If any of you had read the Red Dwarf books(the series depicted it differently), you would know an implication of this: The main characters dies of old age, the genius computer sends him to a reverse time dimension(not another part of our dimension), and he comes out 25 years old. I can see commercially-run operations sending thousands of wealthy old people to these regions already!
Punishing the parents of a criminal child is a far cry from punishing the maker of a criminal robot. Whereas the child is influenced not only by the parents but by the media and and it's piers, the robot is precisely what the maker made it to be, and therefore the maker made the problem, therefore, the maker is responsible for it.
What are you talking about? If you read the story you'd know no one actually got killed. It was just some kid that wrote a scary story blown way out of proportion by the medias blowing out of proportion columbine and other school shootings.. They take it too seriously. In my high school when Columbine happenned they locked all the doors leading to outside to 'ensure that guns could not enter the building.' This year the doors are open all day and kids walk through them constantly. I can't believe this kid got a 100 anyway, it is so poorly written. when i was in 7th grade i was writing masterpieces compared to this drivel..
This is a perfect interface for those pesky programs that are incompatible with others or are just plain buggy.. don't the monsters in doom kill each other when they piss each other off?
actually i do believe lucas did intend for it to be a mystical, philosophical movie... in time magazine[or was it us news] when tpm came out there was a interview with lucas and he wanted the series to reflect certain aspects of christianity, it was a weird article and made him look like an evangelist. and starwars certainly doesnt attract me, and i'm 14. i much prefer the hillarious antics of the guys on the bbc's red dwarf! forgive me, my shift keys don't work so this doesn't look very good.
Another something i have been thinking about, and do not call me a racist or anything for these beliefs, is evolution of modern man. I am not entirely knowledgable on this information, but didn't man evolve in different parts of the world, which is why we have different colored pigments? I mean native americans are a different color from us and are somewhat intolerable to alcohol(I read that native americans that drink automatically become alcoholics), thats because they have evolved in a different area and adapted to a different environment than other humans. So, in retrospect, every race is a little bit of a different kind of animal, like the different kind of cats(although not nearly as different, for our main differences are skin color). If so, wouldn't inter-racial relationships be also known as beastiality?
Let me say i am a devoted atheist, and do not respect christianity in most ways. I find it was a great invention to give plague sufferers and other people with no reason to live, well, a reason to live. Although they arent the greatest rules to live by, I also respect the ten commandments... just following those rules than the thousands established by the government would probably make life a lot easier. There a few religions where the rules and ethics are more respectable(I love buddhism although i think it is on a equal bullshxt level as christianity), but overall i find religion a bad thing, and incredibly illogical and dishonest, especially in this day and age. And don't say i am stating this without a platform; I have read more on religion and philosophy than most people. I just find life would be a lot better for everyone if we relied not on religion, but on caring, and doing real things for each other besides praying.
I don't know if I am stating this due to the fact that i was raised by a religiously lax family(father a non-practicing protestant, a mother that doesnt care, and an atheist sister), or if i'm well read, but i cant understand how someone can base a life on religion. It is so illogical.. i mean i can't comprehend it! I would so like to be in the mind of a christian for a day just to see what it's like. Don't get me wrong, i am open to new beliefs(which in some ways makes me an agnostic), but until a religion is proven, atheism is the only logical belief. Plus, with recent advances in astrophysics and other sciences, we can explain our existence through research.
But another thing i can't understand is all the different sects in christianity. I mean if there is a christianity, wouldn't there only be one way? I mean, isn't the original good book the only way to follow christianity; wouldn't protestantism and lutheranism and every other subset of christianity be false? And if god cared for every human, what about people in third world countries that follow some polytheistic religion and had never heard of christianity? Does that mean they are to be banished to a world of fire and brimstone and torment for eternity? I could go on and on.
People, it was good for us in the beginning, but open your minds now!
Thats not ture for(most) Pennsylvania residents! Nope, good ol' Microsoft paid off the state 20 million dollars so public schools can be filled with wintels! We use an advanced NT network that is always stable for us pupils!(sarcasm but got the facts straight note).
Have you ever heard of that part of Chaos Theory which, for example, says "A butterfly flapping it's wings in New york causes a Hurricane in Japan." I mean, all these vegans are saying 'don't touch the animals!' when at the same time they are moving the atoms in their keyboard, which move the atoms next to it, which move more atoms until it moves the atom on the edge of a cliff where a wolf is standing, thus making the wolf fall of, killing it(bad example, but you get the idea). Morbid way of looking at it, but hey, there it is!
sadly, we should. of course these 'groups' are totally purile, but any dorky teenager cracker like any member of 'LoU' has the power do almost anything with a computer and a modem, no matter how wrong. we should take these adolescents with 's3rver k1ll1ng s0ftwar3z' seriously, much more then we really are.
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Your theory fails to account for the enourmous population Zion achieves over the course of 100 years. Only if they woke up 30, or even 100 people from the 'matrix', and they each had say 5 children of their own, and after 20 years their children had children and so on, would you be able to achieve Zion's population(my math is off, but they have to screw like bunnies to get this). Therefore the Zionians(?) have to be inhabitants from the original earth. Or, perhaps they do just breed like rabbits, which would explain the bizarre rave/orgy scene. Just a thought.
Or quite frankly it will be illegal to possess, as such a powerful decryptor would be considered a weapon.
Not to mention the portability aspect of PS2's. Personally, I'd rather lug my ~15 lb. PS2 to different rooms of my house, and different houses, rather than my ~60 lb. computer.
I don't anyone would have a problem dealing with the fidelity of moving their consciousness from their brain to a computer when their life is at an end. I suppose the process would only occur based on your own ethics, but if I was on my last breath, I would have no problem continuing my life as a machine.
No i'm real and ALL OF YOU ARE ZOMBIES.
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This is a good first step in the internationalization of space exploration... We can't have feeble agencies like NASA doing this for us, we need a strong international backbone with cash from many nations to lead us into space. I wouldn't be surprised if the UN became concentrated on space exploration.
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Cheats are a downright manipulation of software.. thats hacking. And i respect that people can manipulate software bugs to their advantage. That is, untill cheats become more popular. Then its just script kiddie software:)
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This anti-mac article was written in a period where macintosh was in lots of trouble and was not at the elevated position it holds now... there was a lot of anti-mac thinking going on, fueled by the rise of linux and the acceptance of microsoft's monopoly by the many, and this article merely panders to the masses. I think GUI has little to do with how one interacts with the computer. As long as the operating system is customizable, after time, it molds into the user's perfect interface.
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a new kind of media is needed to take control of the industry now that we are in a new age of technology, cd-roms are infeasable due to aesthetics, it's large and clunky size, and in storage space. I think floppy disks have a much better design, and the standard amount of gigabytes would fit perfect into something the size of a floppy, using a one-gig-per-matchbook area as a measurement. true, small media is harder to identify than cdroms(well, floppies arent), but perhaps that can be solved with catalogings and a hand held bar code reader tells what information is on the disk by just scanning a sticker on it.
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Well Adams is an atheist(i've read that in many bios and interviews), and one of the ways he shows it is by 'disproving' god in the hhgttg books.. How can there be meaning in a godless world? I've found the books probably the most depressing thing i've ever read(Shakespearean tragedies dont even compete with Adams... Adams tells the truth and the tragedy is fact, not based on our emotions when reading these stories). And with all the amazing scientific advancements in the series, it really makes man feel worthless... Computers can do more than anything imagined or able to be done by man, time travel can help accomplish all feats ever existing in the universe(time travel to the last day and i would suppose the beings that exist would know all).. what can man do then?
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First off, this is the greatest story ever to be on slashdot and i'm amazed the man who's books made me feel like a spec of dust in the universe is on the dot. Anyway, i remember reading your bio on one of your book jackets(and again in interviews) saying you are a avid supporter of the macintosh... I suppose they were published a while ago, so your views mightve changed, but do you still suport mac? What kind of computer(s) are you running now? What do you see as the future of the computer industry? Any thoughts on linux and open source(do you even know what they are)?? Thanks, and i can't wait to see more works from you(what the hell hapenned to the hhgttg movie plan anyway?)
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This whole field is very philosophically disturbing. It turned me into an existentialist the first time i read about it! I figure, its kind of pointless just to copy your brain into the computer to live.. the only uses for that are to concentrate a digital being on thinking, so we can come to it like the wise man on top of the mountain(with all the worlds brains working as one computer, we can get some answers quick!). But for fidelity, you have to be able to go back and forth from computer to brain, otherwise its very pointless.
Great, why don't you just run that Japanese cartoon that gave everyone seizures? It would be just as annoying. You don't need a Turing test to disprove the existence of the 'soul.' Wake up.
If any of you had read the Red Dwarf books(the series depicted it differently), you would know an implication of this: The main characters dies of old age, the genius computer sends him to a reverse time dimension(not another part of our dimension), and he comes out 25 years old. I can see commercially-run operations sending thousands of wealthy old people to these regions already!
Punishing the parents of a criminal child is a far cry from punishing the maker of a criminal robot. Whereas the child is influenced not only by the parents but by the media and and it's piers, the robot is precisely what the maker made it to be, and therefore the maker made the problem, therefore, the maker is responsible for it.
What are you talking about? If you read the story you'd know no one actually got killed. It was just some kid that wrote a scary story blown way out of proportion by the medias blowing out of proportion columbine and other school shootings.. They take it too seriously. In my high school when Columbine happenned they locked all the doors leading to outside to 'ensure that guns could not enter the building.' This year the doors are open all day and kids walk through them constantly. I can't believe this kid got a 100 anyway, it is so poorly written. when i was in 7th grade i was writing masterpieces compared to this drivel..
This is a perfect interface for those pesky programs that are incompatible with others or are just plain buggy.. don't the monsters in doom kill each other when they piss each other off?
actually i do believe lucas did intend for it to be a mystical, philosophical movie... in time magazine[or was it us news] when tpm came out there was a interview with lucas and he wanted the series to reflect certain aspects of christianity, it was a weird article and made him look like an evangelist. and starwars certainly doesnt attract me, and i'm 14. i much prefer the hillarious antics of the guys on the bbc's red dwarf! forgive me, my shift keys don't work so this doesn't look very good.
Another something i have been thinking about, and do not call me a racist or anything for these beliefs, is evolution of modern man. I am not entirely knowledgable on this information, but didn't man evolve in different parts of the world, which is why we have different colored pigments? I mean native americans are a different color from us and are somewhat intolerable to alcohol(I read that native americans that drink automatically become alcoholics), thats because they have evolved in a different area and adapted to a different environment than other humans. So, in retrospect, every race is a little bit of a different kind of animal, like the different kind of cats(although not nearly as different, for our main differences are skin color). If so, wouldn't inter-racial relationships be also known as beastiality?
Just a strange un-scientifical based observation.
Let me say i am a devoted atheist, and do not respect christianity in most ways. I find it was a great invention to give plague sufferers and other people with no reason to live, well, a reason to live. Although they arent the greatest rules to live by, I also respect the ten commandments... just following those rules than the thousands established by the government would probably make life a lot easier. There a few religions where the rules and ethics are more respectable(I love buddhism although i think it is on a equal bullshxt level as christianity), but overall i find religion a bad thing, and incredibly illogical and dishonest, especially in this day and age. And don't say i am stating this without a platform; I have read more on religion and philosophy than most people. I just find life would be a lot better for everyone if we relied not on religion, but on caring, and doing real things for each other besides praying.
I don't know if I am stating this due to the fact that i was raised by a religiously lax family(father a non-practicing protestant, a mother that doesnt care, and an atheist sister), or if i'm well read, but i cant understand how someone can base a life on religion. It is so illogical.. i mean i can't comprehend it! I would so like to be in the mind of a christian for a day just to see what it's like. Don't get me wrong, i am open to new beliefs(which in some ways makes me an agnostic), but until a religion is proven, atheism is the only logical belief. Plus, with recent advances in astrophysics and other sciences, we can explain our existence through research.
But another thing i can't understand is all the different sects in christianity. I mean if there is a christianity, wouldn't there only be one way? I mean, isn't the original good book the only way to follow christianity; wouldn't protestantism and lutheranism and every other subset of christianity be false? And if god cared for every human, what about people in third world countries that follow some polytheistic religion and had never heard of christianity? Does that mean they are to be banished to a world of fire and brimstone and torment for eternity? I could go on and on.
People, it was good for us in the beginning, but open your minds now!
No, I believe it is Dec. 22, 2007. I remember this from a book i read a while ago only because It's my 22nd Birthday and freaks the hell out of me!
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Thats not ture for(most) Pennsylvania residents! Nope, good ol' Microsoft paid off the state 20 million dollars so public schools can be filled with wintels! We use an advanced NT network that is always stable for us pupils!(sarcasm but got the facts straight note).
Have you ever heard of that part of Chaos Theory which, for example, says "A butterfly flapping it's wings in New york causes a Hurricane in Japan." I mean, all these vegans are saying 'don't touch the animals!' when at the same time they are moving the atoms in their keyboard, which move the atoms next to it, which move more atoms until it moves the atom on the edge of a cliff where a wolf is standing, thus making the wolf fall of, killing it(bad example, but you get the idea). Morbid way of looking at it, but hey, there it is!
sadly, we should. of course these 'groups' are totally purile, but any dorky teenager cracker like any member of 'LoU' has the power do almost anything with a computer and a modem, no matter how wrong. we should take these adolescents with 's3rver k1ll1ng s0ftwar3z' seriously, much more then we really are.