There are far fewer people like Steve Woz out there than there are Steve Jobs. Therefore Woz > Jobs.
You have proven your own ignorance. Sorry, but there were dozens of competing systems when Apple and Woz with Steve showed off their option. There has ever only been one Steve Jobs. There are hundreds of Engineering innovators who start their own corporations and who left PARC to do it. Wozniak is the big compassionate teddy bear who after Apple couldn't produce squat because with all his tinkering he never evolved with today's EE fields and expertise. He got rich and enjoyed life. Science surpassed him decades ago and if you think otherwise, just look at his work after Apple. To be competitive and evolve your knowledge you have to keep current with trends and see where those trends are headed. He's never saw much past his own nose. He was buried in his hobby that Jobs saw as a means to make a revolution. Steve did this with PIXAR, NeXT and then again with Apple.
Sorry, but Wozniak isn't the smartest guy in the room and he'd feel extremely inferior to all the talent at Apple today. However, Steve walks into a room and no one smarted off without eventually getting challenged on their superiority. It happened at NeXT, PIXAR and back again at Apple. Steve Jobs comes around once every century. Wozniak came once when a new industry hadn't arrived due to Steve Jobs dragging hom along. Woz would have gone into obscurity at HP and he even admits it.
As far as you are concerned, and reality, not necessarily the same thing.
Are any of pylons and struts on the top floor of a skyscraper the same exact ones as on the bottom (not identical, same)? Does that make the bottom irellevant? If Apple hadn't gotten off the ground, it wouldn't be here today. Apple now is NOT next, but a combination of the old Apple, and NeXT, both are extremely important to what it is today.
I maintain that Apple very likely would not be what it is today, without Woz.
Having worked at both NeXT and Apple I can honestly say you are FULL OF SHIT. Without NeXT Apple closes its doors 15 months after the merger. After Steve was brought back as iCEO we had 3 months of working capital left. We canceled the Sabbatical Program which had 1/3rd of the entire staff holding 12 weeks of paid vacation. Steve told them ``there is the door, don't let it hit you in the ass on your way out.'' And some arrogant developers left. He canceled the Fellow Program as well. Brilliant moves. Either they pitched in and learned NeXT Technologies or they got out of the way. We wasted nearly 3 years of in-fighting to nurse along OS X to get it back to being more of a logical leap from Openstep and it's still not there.
Steve Jobs would have founded Apple with or without Wozniak, with other Engineers. You clearly never worked around the guy. He drew people in like a Black Hole. Even at a tender 21 he could walk into a room and people wanted to see and hear his ideas.
Most Engineers [Programmers but I'll include ones with actual proven Engineering disciplines like myself] and for that matter most people [98%+] of the populace have zero Vision for seeing how technology can evolve. Steve had it in spades. It's the reason Ivy stayed and the the top designers wanted to get chewed out and hopefully see a few of their designs come to light.
I could care less if this guy thinks he's going to circumvent paying taxes. He'll be part of a publicly traded corporation and there are many ways to skin a cat.
Fixed that for you. For the uninitiated, trimming a string is as simple as
NSString *s = [stringToTrim stringByTrimmingCharactersInSet: [NSCharacterSet whitespaceCharacterSet]];
The way the language functions is beautiful, but they seriously need to get rid of stuff like this.
That's what makes it beautiful. It's f'n readable from left to right.
Ignorant comment. You don't need Apple to do objc. The compilers are open source. (Both gcc and clang.) There is also the GNUstep project, which implements many of the NS* classes.
Yes and No. GNUStep has a long way to go before it completely supports AppKit, Foundation Kit, missing Core Data and more.
Gimp gets financial sponsorship and the developers get notoriety and job placement for their work. If they can't manage that then they are completely incompetent at selling themselves.
Thank you. I'm personally getting sick and tired of badly written articles on Parallel Programming discussing CUDA and having to wade through crap before one sharp post discusses OpenCL. OpenCL 1.2 is very robust and we'll be seeing OpenCL 2.0 this August.
I prefer C/C++/ObjC/ObjC++ family of programming languages to work with and have in my 3rd party apps. I would really like LibreOffice to dump the need for Java all-together. I don't mind C# with Mono apps but if GNOME switched to Mono and C# for GTK+/GLib I'd dump GNOME all together.
If I'm after GPGPU and OpenCL I chose AMD, not Nvidia whose implementation is weak and have been kicking and screaming that CUDA isn't what the industry has adopted.
Blender has to be the best run Open Source Project that has ties to the GPL around and the Gimp has to be one of the worst run examples of Open Source Project Management. Inkscape has had its hiccups but is churning right along. GIMP's had nearly a decade of ``what it could be'' and nearly 10 years to get GEGL off the ground. I'm glad it's here. Hopefully, it will accelerate it's advances in the future.
We've all read actual software patents before. Wooohooo. The links are always posted here. It's widely known how ridiculous they are. Most of us are, you know, actual software developers.
No one can possibly be as stupid as your post implies while managing to operate a computer at all.
Ergo, you cannot possibly believe the obvious and fairly trivial deceptions you have just written.
Conclusion: Go smoke a cock, you lying astroturf PR contractor.
First, pull that smoke out of your own rear end. Grow up, get advanced degrees in Engineering, Computer Science, Pure and Applied Mathematics and study advanced research. Then work on those obvious algorithms and patents you profess to have understood and become the Consumer Reports equivalent of Ralph Nader to save the world from software patents. Otherwise, take your own advice.
I did a Masters Chemical Engineer (didn't finish), and a bachelor in CS. In both older students and alumni warned that you should get out of tech jobs and move into management within 10 years after graduation.
The first time I heard that must have been in the 1992-1994 timeframe
Or get off your butt and get back into your Chemical Engineering field and with your CS you can be overseeing large scale projects.
Since when is a 6550 a budget GPU? The 6350/6450/7350/7450 are easily dusted by the Intel HD 4000. If you want to move to mid-range you'll get more performance for the money but a consumer is better off not spending the extra $50 and sticking with the HD4000.
Since the 6570 is just over $60, I'd say that the 6550 is a budget GPU.
Unless they are able to sustain an localized electromagnetic field to dampen and thus disperse such large force vectors on the surface of the object traveling and such high rates of speed what's the point?
The language was not released under the GPL--a particular implementation of the compiler and VM was released under the GPL. The language is an abstract thing that happens to have multiple implementations of varying quality (Kaffe, gcj, etc., etc.). Sun's implementation is the only one that can use the trademarked name "java" (so far), but it's not the only implementation of the language.
Note that Oracle has been trying to confuse the distinction between Java-the-abstract-language and Java-the-virtual-machine since they started this case. This reminds me of the way that SCO tried to confuse the distinction between UNIX, SYSV and Unixware in their case. Of course, the fact that Oracle is using the same lawyers as SCO did may be related....
However SUN released the licensing for Java no longer matters. How Oracle releases a new licensing structure is what matters; and it's clear Google has no interest in adjusting the terms to meet Oracle's new terms.
There are far fewer people like Steve Woz out there than there are Steve Jobs. Therefore Woz > Jobs.
You have proven your own ignorance. Sorry, but there were dozens of competing systems when Apple and Woz with Steve showed off their option. There has ever only been one Steve Jobs. There are hundreds of Engineering innovators who start their own corporations and who left PARC to do it. Wozniak is the big compassionate teddy bear who after Apple couldn't produce squat because with all his tinkering he never evolved with today's EE fields and expertise. He got rich and enjoyed life. Science surpassed him decades ago and if you think otherwise, just look at his work after Apple. To be competitive and evolve your knowledge you have to keep current with trends and see where those trends are headed. He's never saw much past his own nose. He was buried in his hobby that Jobs saw as a means to make a revolution. Steve did this with PIXAR, NeXT and then again with Apple.
Sorry, but Wozniak isn't the smartest guy in the room and he'd feel extremely inferior to all the talent at Apple today. However, Steve walks into a room and no one smarted off without eventually getting challenged on their superiority. It happened at NeXT, PIXAR and back again at Apple. Steve Jobs comes around once every century. Wozniak came once when a new industry hadn't arrived due to Steve Jobs dragging hom along. Woz would have gone into obscurity at HP and he even admits it.
As far as you are concerned, and reality, not necessarily the same thing.
Are any of pylons and struts on the top floor of a skyscraper the same exact ones as on the bottom (not identical, same)? Does that make the bottom irellevant? If Apple hadn't gotten off the ground, it wouldn't be here today. Apple now is NOT next, but a combination of the old Apple, and NeXT, both are extremely important to what it is today.
I maintain that Apple very likely would not be what it is today, without Woz.
Having worked at both NeXT and Apple I can honestly say you are FULL OF SHIT. Without NeXT Apple closes its doors 15 months after the merger. After Steve was brought back as iCEO we had 3 months of working capital left. We canceled the Sabbatical Program which had 1/3rd of the entire staff holding 12 weeks of paid vacation. Steve told them ``there is the door, don't let it hit you in the ass on your way out.'' And some arrogant developers left. He canceled the Fellow Program as well. Brilliant moves. Either they pitched in and learned NeXT Technologies or they got out of the way. We wasted nearly 3 years of in-fighting to nurse along OS X to get it back to being more of a logical leap from Openstep and it's still not there.
Steve Jobs would have founded Apple with or without Wozniak, with other Engineers. You clearly never worked around the guy. He drew people in like a Black Hole. Even at a tender 21 he could walk into a room and people wanted to see and hear his ideas.
Most Engineers [Programmers but I'll include ones with actual proven Engineering disciplines like myself] and for that matter most people [98%+] of the populace have zero Vision for seeing how technology can evolve. Steve had it in spades. It's the reason Ivy stayed and the the top designers wanted to get chewed out and hopefully see a few of their designs come to light.
Facebook has not built a tech empire. It's built a short-term Social Network empire.
I could care less if this guy thinks he's going to circumvent paying taxes. He'll be part of a publicly traded corporation and there are many ways to skin a cat.
It's still too verbose
Fixed that for you. For the uninitiated, trimming a string is as simple as NSString *s = [stringToTrim stringByTrimmingCharactersInSet: [NSCharacterSet whitespaceCharacterSet]];
The way the language functions is beautiful, but they seriously need to get rid of stuff like this.
That's what makes it beautiful. It's f'n readable from left to right.
What looks like vomit is C++ and old style C. If you can't handle getData:withDataObject:.... then life must be truly painful to your mind.
Ignorant comment. You don't need Apple to do objc. The compilers are open source. (Both gcc and clang.) There is also the GNUstep project, which implements many of the NS* classes.
Yes and No. GNUStep has a long way to go before it completely supports AppKit, Foundation Kit, missing Core Data and more.
In any conditional state your comment is still dickish.
Gimp gets financial sponsorship and the developers get notoriety and job placement for their work. If they can't manage that then they are completely incompetent at selling themselves.
Don't go all out there Debian. Nice Handbook sans the icons that look scaled up and thus pixelated.
Thank you. I'm personally getting sick and tired of badly written articles on Parallel Programming discussing CUDA and having to wade through crap before one sharp post discusses OpenCL. OpenCL 1.2 is very robust and we'll be seeing OpenCL 2.0 this August.
I prefer C/C++/ObjC/ObjC++ family of programming languages to work with and have in my 3rd party apps. I would really like LibreOffice to dump the need for Java all-together. I don't mind C# with Mono apps but if GNOME switched to Mono and C# for GTK+/GLib I'd dump GNOME all together.
If I'm after GPGPU and OpenCL I chose AMD, not Nvidia whose implementation is weak and have been kicking and screaming that CUDA isn't what the industry has adopted.
Blender has to be the best run Open Source Project that has ties to the GPL around and the Gimp has to be one of the worst run examples of Open Source Project Management. Inkscape has had its hiccups but is churning right along. GIMP's had nearly a decade of ``what it could be'' and nearly 10 years to get GEGL off the ground. I'm glad it's here. Hopefully, it will accelerate it's advances in the future.
A Buddhist doesn't believe in Heaven.
All you GOP hack lovers who espouse about their love of Privacy, Liberty, Guns, blah, blah, blah take a look at the count:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll192.xml
AYES: GOP 206, DEM 42
NOES: GOP 28, DEM 140
NOT VOTING: GOP 8, DEM 7
Don't tell me the GOP is for your privacy. Stew in your own bull****.
We've all read actual software patents before. Wooohooo. The links are always posted here. It's widely known how ridiculous they are. Most of us are, you know, actual software developers.
No one can possibly be as stupid as your post implies while managing to operate a computer at all.
Ergo, you cannot possibly believe the obvious and fairly trivial deceptions you have just written.
Conclusion: Go smoke a cock, you lying astroturf PR contractor.
First, pull that smoke out of your own rear end. Grow up, get advanced degrees in Engineering, Computer Science, Pure and Applied Mathematics and study advanced research. Then work on those obvious algorithms and patents you profess to have understood and become the Consumer Reports equivalent of Ralph Nader to save the world from software patents. Otherwise, take your own advice.
When the larger companies realize that they have far more to lose from patents than they have to gain.
I hope this guy takes them for $20 billion.
He's going to lose.
Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Typical chicken shit. Go pound sound.
Yes, because C and C++ are new languages. If you want a long term future you work with those two languages and also ObjC/ObjC++.
I did a Masters Chemical Engineer (didn't finish), and a bachelor in CS. In both older students and alumni warned that you should get out of tech jobs and move into management within 10 years after graduation.
The first time I heard that must have been in the 1992-1994 timeframe
Or get off your butt and get back into your Chemical Engineering field and with your CS you can be overseeing large scale projects.
Since when is a 6550 a budget GPU? The 6350/6450/7350/7450 are easily dusted by the Intel HD 4000. If you want to move to mid-range you'll get more performance for the money but a consumer is better off not spending the extra $50 and sticking with the HD4000.
Since the 6570 is just over $60, I'd say that the 6550 is a budget GPU.
Unless they are able to sustain an localized electromagnetic field to dampen and thus disperse such large force vectors on the surface of the object traveling and such high rates of speed what's the point?
I don't see where you got off your ass and reported them to the authorities for using this `Z Visa' to avoid basic federal laws.
The language was not released under the GPL--a particular implementation of the compiler and VM was released under the GPL. The language is an abstract thing that happens to have multiple implementations of varying quality (Kaffe, gcj, etc., etc.). Sun's implementation is the only one that can use the trademarked name "java" (so far), but it's not the only implementation of the language.
Note that Oracle has been trying to confuse the distinction between Java-the-abstract-language and Java-the-virtual-machine since they started this case. This reminds me of the way that SCO tried to confuse the distinction between UNIX, SYSV and Unixware in their case. Of course, the fact that Oracle is using the same lawyers as SCO did may be related....
However SUN released the licensing for Java no longer matters. How Oracle releases a new licensing structure is what matters; and it's clear Google has no interest in adjusting the terms to meet Oracle's new terms.