As of the end of June, 2008 Total Unit sales disclosed by SONY for the PS3 is around 14.5 million units and climbing. Where the hell do you get 5.5 million [half of the 11 million XBox sales]?
Don't read the title too fast. "Mooning" isn't what's being asked.
How about the original submitter stop most of his problems by not buying a dump of a home? Seriously. Get a condo or a duplex if you can't afford something worth investing in that doesn't have the hidden subtext, ``Money Pit.''
The court system doesn't decide facts. They are used as an attempt to discover facts. Every company that was found to be a monopoly by the courts was already a monopoly before the courts weighted in.
They determine the validity of a case against pre-existing Laws.
It's a fact that Apple owns their platform and their is no competing hardware vendors for their platform. It's a fact that they have around 5-6% of the present marketshare for all platforms sold.
The courts determine this 5-6% aren't in violation of Anti-Trust.
You can spout various Facts all you want and the Court's will leverage Reason to trump them. Case closed.
A boycott of the iPhone Apple Design Awards would undoubtedly send a message to Apple, but I doubt it could be pulled off. Those awards are coveted; it's such a big temptation for developers that they won't miss out on it just for a stand on principles.
You go right ahead and boycott it. I guarantee you hundreds of other developers will take your place and the prizes, plus marketing and prestige while you sulk about being Richard Stallman's good little soldier.
That's the problem with language. Once Apple sells the phone, it is no longer Apple's phone - it is the customer's.
Since WHEN has apple ever allowed people to own their own equipment?
Apple has never been about freedom (as in beer, or choice apparently), it has been more like a mortgage company.. Leasing you the use of your home/equipment until such time as they see fit to no longer support it.
It was a great frustration to me, when I use to service Apple computers (eons ago... Back before the last ice age..) to not be able to order a replacement part from a 3rd party source with ease. Apple, for as long as I can remember, has focused on proprietary rights.. THEIR rights.
It's shown in past computers, it's shown in their software, and now it's showing in this.
Quite frustrating and has kept me from even considering owning a Mac. How can I pay money to a company that has only recently started loosening their stranglehold on where their product can be used, and how?
When allowing freedom of software choice because financially lucrative and trendy... THEN apple will endorse it. Not a moment before.
How many of you Microsoft Linux employees get paid to spend all day on tech sites? The garbage you spew as fact is surpassing Mt. Ranier.
Actually, a friend and I have recently come up with two ideas for fun phone apps, and have been waffling between doing them for iPhone or for Android.
The coolness and market base of iPhone combine to create a strong draw towards iPhone. But at the same time, I'm already a seasoned Java developer and learning Objective-C and Cocoa is a pretty hefty hurdle to overcome when I'd like to get things rolling quickly.
Additional crap like this is making me lean more and more away from iPhone and increasingly towards Android/HTC. This may well be the tipping point.
The one last thing that may seal the deal for me, once HTC comes out, is whether or not it will easily sync contacts and calendars with my mac. If it does, HTC may well end up being my personal phone, which would definitely push me away from developing for iPhone.
Explain to me how the hell your seasoned Java development makes it a hefty hurdle to learn ObjC/Cocoa seeing as much of Java was developed with ObjC, in mind.
I'm betting you know far less about Java and more about certain Java frameworks that you've become dependent upon to do your job.
Why should it follow that an open design leads to no profit
Uhh, he didn't say that. Weird, you got modded insightful for it. I guess the mods fell for your strawman. What he said was "If openness coincides sufficiently well with developer self-interest, then openness may win out as well." Given MS's success in software, which is far *far* from open, I'd say he's absolutely right.
He got modded by a fellow Microsoft fan who has learned that to get modded well within the GPL v3 or die crowd you talk their talk.
Unfortunately, the GPL v3 crowd is too stupid to note that they don't walk the walk.
And the neocons say unregulated capitalism isn't destroying our democracy. Eisenhower, how we miss thee...
Spare me the Eisenhower, ``I'll add `Under God', and `In God We Trust''' crap to our pledge and currencies BOTH AGAINST THE DESIGNS OF THE FOUNDERS AND THE WRITER OF THE PLEDGE.
The Trust Buster was Teddy Roosevelt and even he had dickkish moments by classifying Sir Thomas Paine as an Atheist--clearly the dumbest comment I ever read from him.
How this Quaker/Deist is an Atheist truly is pathetic.
Quite right. And petrol going from $1.10/gallon to $4/gallon is no big deal either, it's only $2.90 worth of difference. There are more pressing issues than gas prices, like healthcare, crime etc.
It's amazing how we claim to be a Capitalist Economy yet all we see are Oligopolies protecting and expanding their turfs.
Where are those dozens of Oil Companies fighting for our buck? Oh that's right! They consolidated.
yes, CPU clock speeds are going up, and memory prices are going down, but a web browser should still be a relatively lightweight application by itself.
Why? I spend more time in the web browser--by far--than any other application. Email? 10 years ago I used a standalone email app, now I mostly use webmail. 5 years ago I used AIM. Now I use web chat. Picasa? Google documents? Between javascript advances, DOM, rich media, plugins, TABS, etc etc etc, today's browser does things not even imaged in 10 years ago.
Chrome's very purpose is to make the browser a more generalized application development platform. Heck, WEBKIT is used in the same way (and XUL, etc for Firefox). The web browser ain't just for HTML circa '97 anymore. The web browser is probably the single most important application for most users.
there seems to be a negative trend of basic office applications becoming increasingly resource-intensive at a pace that negates simultaneous increases in computer processing power. that's not technological progress, that's just inefficient software development.
Exactly right. MS Office is a great example of this. The average user utilizes a very small percent of the functionality of Office, and yet everyone suffers the bloat. Can you honestly say that most people don't get anything out of a more rich browsing experience?
You sound like you work for Google. I use as many browsers as are on OS X and Linux.
However, I sure as hell am not spending my time in GMail [I have it but rarely use it], when I can use KMail, Mail.app, Thunderbird, Evolution, et al. for email.
I'm not interested in Web Suite Apps. When I want a spreadsheet I'm not headin' over to Google. I've got plenty of locally installed options from basic to advanced Numerical Analysis needs.
I could go on regarding Inkscape, Gimp, Photoshop, Xara Xtreme, Krita, OpenOffice Draw, Xfig, et al., but you get the idea.
When Webkit can run extensions/plugins without crashing
Is it Webkit that actually runs the plugins? In Chrome, plugins run in their own child processes, so it seems like it would be Chrome and not Webkit that manages them.
Sorry, but Debian Sid running Iceweasel or Epiphany Gecko or Epiphany-WebKit, to Opera 9.52, to Konqueror 4.1.1 all have Flashitis and force one to kill them all.
Because it's bloated as a single app, but less bloated then opening up a new process (or more than one!) for every single web page loaded. Until every computer in use has multi-gigabyte memory, including handheld devices, there will be a need for something lighter than webkit
First of all, WebKit itself doesn't impose the multi-process model that Google's Chrome uses. For example, Safari uses WebKit, and it runs as a single process.
With that cleared up, now, here's the more important flawed assumption in your post: that having the broswer use n processes to display n pages will require n times as much memory as doing it all with n threads in one process. That's far from true, because such a browser can be architected so that the processes use shared memory for all shared resources and state.
The multi-process architecture will carry additional memory overhead, but done correctly, it will scale up much better than linearly. The real costs are the costs of process creation and switching in the OS, plus the costs of the inter-process communication method. Using shared memory for the latter is cheap, but it can potentially make one process bring down the others, defeating the purpose of isolating each page into a process; it's a balancing act, and the memory overhead really depends on what tradeoffs one picks here.
Isn't one dependent upon the OS shared memory model when developing your browser? In other words, the memory system on Windows is managed differently than on OS X and Linux, let alone on OpenSolaris, FreeBSD, AIX, et.al. Wouldn't this alone make design decisions targeting/optimizing low-level code platform specific?
And if so, wouldn't you have to make decisions on optimizations first targeting more generic areas and later, platform specific areas?
Your other option is cellular based internet. You can get plans around $50 a month and have broadband anywhere in the country you can get a cellular signal on your network.
The point of the article concerns faster speeds with affordable pricing.
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As of the end of June, 2008 Total Unit sales disclosed by SONY for the PS3 is around 14.5 million units and climbing. Where the hell do you get 5.5 million [half of the 11 million XBox sales]?
Basically an Instant Run-off system which would finally break the grip of the Duopoly in this once grand Republic.
I'll take ROBOTECH and get to fly while kicking ass. But nothing touches the original: http://www.starblazers.com/home.php
I suppose you didn't get the memo that the 3G issue was an AT&T issue?
let me check...yep...mine too
Maybe it just works for ACs?
How this guy became the voice of the Royal Society shows you how UnRoyal and UnFreemasonry this Society has become.
Don't read the title too fast. "Mooning" isn't what's being asked.
How about the original submitter stop most of his problems by not buying a dump of a home? Seriously. Get a condo or a duplex if you can't afford something worth investing in that doesn't have the hidden subtext, ``Money Pit.''
``EAT AT JOES.''
The court system doesn't decide facts. They are used as an attempt to discover facts. Every company that was found to be a monopoly by the courts was already a monopoly before the courts weighted in.
They determine the validity of a case against pre-existing Laws.
It's a fact that Apple owns their platform and their is no competing hardware vendors for their platform. It's a fact that they have around 5-6% of the present marketshare for all platforms sold.
The courts determine this 5-6% aren't in violation of Anti-Trust.
You can spout various Facts all you want and the Court's will leverage Reason to trump them. Case closed.
A boycott of the iPhone Apple Design Awards would undoubtedly send a message to Apple, but I doubt it could be pulled off. Those awards are coveted; it's such a big temptation for developers that they won't miss out on it just for a stand on principles.
You go right ahead and boycott it. I guarantee you hundreds of other developers will take your place and the prizes, plus marketing and prestige while you sulk about being Richard Stallman's good little soldier.
That's the problem with language. Once Apple sells the phone, it is no longer Apple's phone - it is the customer's.
Since WHEN has apple ever allowed people to own their own equipment? Apple has never been about freedom (as in beer, or choice apparently), it has been more like a mortgage company.. Leasing you the use of your home/equipment until such time as they see fit to no longer support it. It was a great frustration to me, when I use to service Apple computers (eons ago... Back before the last ice age..) to not be able to order a replacement part from a 3rd party source with ease. Apple, for as long as I can remember, has focused on proprietary rights.. THEIR rights. It's shown in past computers, it's shown in their software, and now it's showing in this. Quite frustrating and has kept me from even considering owning a Mac. How can I pay money to a company that has only recently started loosening their stranglehold on where their product can be used, and how? When allowing freedom of software choice because financially lucrative and trendy... THEN apple will endorse it. Not a moment before.
How many of you Microsoft Linux employees get paid to spend all day on tech sites? The garbage you spew as fact is surpassing Mt. Ranier.
Actually, a friend and I have recently come up with two ideas for fun phone apps, and have been waffling between doing them for iPhone or for Android.
The coolness and market base of iPhone combine to create a strong draw towards iPhone. But at the same time, I'm already a seasoned Java developer and learning Objective-C and Cocoa is a pretty hefty hurdle to overcome when I'd like to get things rolling quickly.
Additional crap like this is making me lean more and more away from iPhone and increasingly towards Android/HTC. This may well be the tipping point.
The one last thing that may seal the deal for me, once HTC comes out, is whether or not it will easily sync contacts and calendars with my mac. If it does, HTC may well end up being my personal phone, which would definitely push me away from developing for iPhone.
Explain to me how the hell your seasoned Java development makes it a hefty hurdle to learn ObjC/Cocoa seeing as much of Java was developed with ObjC, in mind.
I'm betting you know far less about Java and more about certain Java frameworks that you've become dependent upon to do your job.
Why should it follow that an open design leads to no profit
Uhh, he didn't say that. Weird, you got modded insightful for it. I guess the mods fell for your strawman. What he said was "If openness coincides sufficiently well with developer self-interest, then openness may win out as well." Given MS's success in software, which is far *far* from open, I'd say he's absolutely right.
He got modded by a fellow Microsoft fan who has learned that to get modded well within the GPL v3 or die crowd you talk their talk.
Unfortunately, the GPL v3 crowd is too stupid to note that they don't walk the walk.
You must be on crack. The Apple iPhone SDK with the iPhone is what makes it so compelling.
Have some balls and post as an account, not this AC crap.
And the neocons say unregulated capitalism isn't destroying our democracy. Eisenhower, how we miss thee...
Spare me the Eisenhower, ``I'll add `Under God', and `In God We Trust''' crap to our pledge and currencies BOTH AGAINST THE DESIGNS OF THE FOUNDERS AND THE WRITER OF THE PLEDGE.
The Trust Buster was Teddy Roosevelt and even he had dickkish moments by classifying Sir Thomas Paine as an Atheist--clearly the dumbest comment I ever read from him.
How this Quaker/Deist is an Atheist truly is pathetic.
WebKit was a massive code dump of KHTML, modified so much that merging those changes would require more effort than starting a whole new project.
Horsecrap. The WebKit project completely dwarfs the KHTML/KJS original beginnings.
Quite right. And petrol going from $1.10/gallon to $4/gallon is no big deal either, it's only $2.90 worth of difference. There are more pressing issues than gas prices, like healthcare, crime etc.
It's amazing how we claim to be a Capitalist Economy yet all we see are Oligopolies protecting and expanding their turfs.
Where are those dozens of Oil Companies fighting for our buck? Oh that's right! They consolidated.
I'd wager that's due more to Cocoa than anything else.
Holy S*** that is an ignorant red herring.
yes, CPU clock speeds are going up, and memory prices are going down, but a web browser should still be a relatively lightweight application by itself.
Why? I spend more time in the web browser--by far--than any other application. Email? 10 years ago I used a standalone email app, now I mostly use webmail. 5 years ago I used AIM. Now I use web chat. Picasa? Google documents? Between javascript advances, DOM, rich media, plugins, TABS, etc etc etc, today's browser does things not even imaged in 10 years ago.
Chrome's very purpose is to make the browser a more generalized application development platform. Heck, WEBKIT is used in the same way (and XUL, etc for Firefox). The web browser ain't just for HTML circa '97 anymore. The web browser is probably the single most important application for most users.
there seems to be a negative trend of basic office applications becoming increasingly resource-intensive at a pace that negates simultaneous increases in computer processing power. that's not technological progress, that's just inefficient software development.
Exactly right. MS Office is a great example of this. The average user utilizes a very small percent of the functionality of Office, and yet everyone suffers the bloat. Can you honestly say that most people don't get anything out of a more rich browsing experience?
You sound like you work for Google. I use as many browsers as are on OS X and Linux.
However, I sure as hell am not spending my time in GMail [I have it but rarely use it], when I can use KMail, Mail.app, Thunderbird, Evolution, et al. for email.
I'm not interested in Web Suite Apps. When I want a spreadsheet I'm not headin' over to Google. I've got plenty of locally installed options from basic to advanced Numerical Analysis needs.
I could go on regarding Inkscape, Gimp, Photoshop, Xara Xtreme, Krita, OpenOffice Draw, Xfig, et al., but you get the idea.
When Webkit can run extensions/plugins without crashing
Is it Webkit that actually runs the plugins? In Chrome, plugins run in their own child processes, so it seems like it would be Chrome and not Webkit that manages them.
Sorry, but Debian Sid running Iceweasel or Epiphany Gecko or Epiphany-WebKit, to Opera 9.52, to Konqueror 4.1.1 all have Flashitis and force one to kill them all.
First of all, WebKit itself doesn't impose the multi-process model that Google's Chrome uses. For example, Safari uses WebKit, and it runs as a single process.
With that cleared up, now, here's the more important flawed assumption in your post: that having the broswer use n processes to display n pages will require n times as much memory as doing it all with n threads in one process. That's far from true, because such a browser can be architected so that the processes use shared memory for all shared resources and state.
The multi-process architecture will carry additional memory overhead, but done correctly, it will scale up much better than linearly. The real costs are the costs of process creation and switching in the OS, plus the costs of the inter-process communication method. Using shared memory for the latter is cheap, but it can potentially make one process bring down the others, defeating the purpose of isolating each page into a process; it's a balancing act, and the memory overhead really depends on what tradeoffs one picks here.
Isn't one dependent upon the OS shared memory model when developing your browser? In other words, the memory system on Windows is managed differently than on OS X and Linux, let alone on OpenSolaris, FreeBSD, AIX, et.al. Wouldn't this alone make design decisions targeting/optimizing low-level code platform specific?
And if so, wouldn't you have to make decisions on optimizations first targeting more generic areas and later, platform specific areas?
Your other option is cellular based internet. You can get plans around $50 a month and have broadband anywhere in the country you can get a cellular signal on your network.
The point of the article concerns faster speeds with affordable pricing.
Show me the affordable with Satellite or Celluar.
C++ doesn't support delegates isn't a dynamically typed run-time, blah, blah, blah.
I don't think that Lotus Symphony was... it was WAY different than 1-2-3, Excel, QuattroPlus, et al...
It's Quattro Pro and it was far superior to Excel, especially for us traditional Engineering majors [ME/EE/ChemE, et.al].