Everyone knows NT is faster for single application s and services.
For multitasking, running several services on the same machine, and for reliability, NT is junk.
They can prove that NT is purely faster 100 times, or until the cows come home, I still wouldn't use NT Server to even host my homepage.
Pure, raw, speed was never the issue in the NT vs. Linux debate in my sphere of thinking. I need a Network OS that can do many things at one time, and not crash... ever. Linux us much closer to this than is NT.
The Sony Playstation OS is faster than NT in many situations, and could probably be made to run a webserver pretty damn fast, but who would run a business on it?
Fast, but horribly unreliable. Who would possibly see this as an acceptable alternative to *nix?
Reading this thread, I can't help but be reminded of all of the rights that I, as a resident of Washington DC, do not have. No right to a representative government while paying FULL Federal Taxes, AND, it is illegal to own a firearm of any kind here.
All of these rights you guys are talking about losing, half a million people in the capital of the US don't have currently.
And, you are right. I don't see anyone really fighting (that hard) to get them, because it has been this way for a very long time.
I disagree with Dredd13, and everyone who thinks the article is not relevant, or thinks the rant should not have been posted.
Red Hat's internal attitude is extremely relevant to alot of us, and it would appear that the internal memo that was (accidentally) emailed to Raster was a screw up on Red Hat's part for keeping him on the list, but now that the cat is out of the bag...
It appears that he cares more about the Linux community than he does about Red Hat, and the contempt and condecendence that RH is showing for a large group of Linux users, appearantly hurts him, and he feels a certain obligation to share the truth about this situation to those users who this attitude may affect. The internal memo showed that it was more than just a "personality conflict", I mean, come on - their position against a large number of users (not just Raster) is there in black and white.
Employment is a two-way street, and loyalty goes two ways. Don't belittle someone company-wide, and expect loyalty from said person. That is ludicrous. When you treat people like shit, it eventually catches up with you, as well it should.
For those of you whining about how you would not hire someone with such a lack of loyalty, perhaps you should consider not belittling your employees, and perhaps you won't have to worry about it.
If this is unacceptable, you will get the employees that you deserve, and you will not receive a talent the likes of Rasterman.
I am more sick of seeing employers treating their employees improperly, than employees blowing the whistle on it - and now the net has leveled the playing field a little.
You know, in most cases DOS runs certain applications faster than Linux does. DOS is very fast. But it is not powerful, and it is not stable, and does not multitask. I am quite sure you can get games to benchmark faster on DOS, but unless that is all you do, all the time, it doesn't mean much to the more serious user.
I have no doubt that for bursts of time, NT is quite fast, and can match any other OS for RAW speed for short periods of time.
The horrible stability, the very poor multitasking when many services and applications are running, and the lack of good remote administration of Windows NT is why I use *nix on all of my servers, and advise others to do the same.
Regardless of what the benchmarks show, I will continue doing the same. This raw benchmarking is only a part of an entire OS equation. NT just falls far too short in too many other areas to be used by any serious enterprise.
Unless the speed difference is huge, stability and robustness is *far* more important to a heavily loaded server than raw speed.
When a machine crashes, it's speed becomes zero.
Who cares about RedHat?
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Actually, I have the Red Hat bumper sticker slapped on one of the tubes on my bike. (I don't own a car)
I have been using Google for some time now. It has become my primary. The search ads are only worth the amount of people that use them. And if enough people are turned off to Alta-Vista because of this... they won't be worth much.
I think it is to late to do it quitely, no that Slashdot took the story.
It is not software piracy of the EULA is invalid, correct?
I think your concern is misguided. If someone cannot get a refund per the EULA, and they have not agreed to the EULA, then they are not bound by it.
This is about taking accountablility and responsibility for one's own agreement, not piracy.
If Micorsoft forfeits the EULA, then nobody is in violation of it.
If someone pays for the software, but cannot get a refund, they should be entitled to do whatever they want to do with it, if they have made a good faith effort at returning it per the EULA.
If you call that Piracy, then I would be proud to see the Linux community promoting just that. Nothing matters to anyone until it effects the wallet. All the yelling, screaming, and protesting in the world will not do a damn thing, but if MS thinks the invalidation of the EULA will effect licensing fees, you can bet they will take notice.
I don't see how this makes the Linux community look bad at all.
Forcing someone to adhere to their portion of an agreement, under the penalty of rendering that agreement invalid, is not something anyone should be ashamed of.
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Then, the cost of Spam is taken directly out of your pocket.
Some free speech.
At that point, even NT would be far slower, due to the hogging memory leaks that begin to degrade performance after only a few days.
These tests were no doubt run on freshly booted machines.
Machines don't stay freshly booted for long, unless you reboot them alot.
For multitasking, running several services on the same machine, and for reliability, NT is junk.
They can prove that NT is purely faster 100 times, or until the cows come home, I still wouldn't use NT Server to even host my homepage.
Pure, raw, speed was never the issue in the NT vs. Linux debate in my sphere of thinking. I need a Network OS that can do many things at one time, and not crash ... ever. Linux us much closer to this than is NT.
The Sony Playstation OS is faster than NT in many situations, and could probably be made to run a webserver pretty damn fast, but who would run a business on it?
Fast, but horribly unreliable. Who would possibly see this as an acceptable alternative to *nix?
All of these rights you guys are talking about losing, half a million people in the capital of the US don't have currently.
And, you are right. I don't see anyone really fighting (that hard) to get them, because it has been this way for a very long time.
It's a little disturbing.
Might as well email a brick wall.
No democracy here.
I disagree with Dredd13, and everyone who thinks the article is not relevant, or thinks the rant should not have been posted.
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Red Hat's internal attitude is extremely relevant to alot of us, and it would appear that the internal memo that was (accidentally) emailed to Raster was a screw up on Red Hat's part for keeping him on the list, but now that the cat is out of the bag
It appears that he cares more about the Linux community than he does about Red Hat, and the contempt and condecendence that RH is showing for a large group of Linux users, appearantly hurts him, and he feels a certain obligation to share the truth about this situation to those users who this attitude may affect. The internal memo showed that it was more than just a "personality conflict", I mean, come on - their position against a large number of users (not just Raster) is there in black and white.
Employment is a two-way street, and loyalty goes two ways. Don't belittle someone company-wide, and expect loyalty from said person. That is ludicrous. When you treat people like shit, it eventually catches up with you, as well it should.
For those of you whining about how you would not hire someone with such a lack of loyalty, perhaps you should consider not belittling your employees, and perhaps you won't have to worry about it.
If this is unacceptable, you will get the employees that you deserve, and you will not receive a talent the likes of Rasterman.
I am more sick of seeing employers treating their employees improperly, than employees blowing the whistle on it - and now the net has leveled the playing field a little.
Personally, I am glad.
I fire it up occasionally, and on a Pentium 200 with 64 megs of RAM, it is usable, but quite slow.
IMHO, Java VM performance on Linux still has a way to go before usable (big) apps can be written for it.
I have no doubt that for bursts of time, NT is quite fast, and can match any other OS for RAW speed for short periods of time.
The horrible stability, the very poor multitasking when many services and applications are running, and the lack of good remote administration of Windows NT is why I use *nix on all of my servers, and advise others to do the same.
Regardless of what the benchmarks show, I will continue doing the same. This raw benchmarking is only a part of an entire OS equation. NT just falls far too short in too many other areas to be used by any serious enterprise.
Unless the speed difference is huge, stability and robustness is *far* more important to a heavily loaded server than raw speed.
When a machine crashes, it's speed becomes zero.
Actually, I have the Red Hat bumper sticker slapped on one of the tubes on my bike. (I don't own a car)
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I like to think that I look equally as cool
I have been using Google for some time now. It has become my primary. The search ads are only worth the amount of people that use them. And if enough people are turned off to Alta-Vista because of this ... they won't be worth much.
I think it is to late to do it quitely, no that Slashdot took the story.
It will be interesting to see how well they do.
Thank god for search engine choice.
It is not software piracy of the EULA is invalid, correct?
I think your concern is misguided. If someone cannot get a refund per the EULA, and they have not agreed to the EULA, then they are not bound by it.
This is about taking accountablility and responsibility for one's own agreement, not piracy.
If Micorsoft forfeits the EULA, then nobody is in violation of it.
If someone pays for the software, but cannot get a refund, they should be entitled to do whatever they want to do with it, if they have made a good faith effort at returning it per the EULA.
If you call that Piracy, then I would be proud to see the Linux community promoting just that. Nothing matters to anyone until it effects the wallet. All the yelling, screaming, and protesting in the world will not do a damn thing, but if MS thinks the invalidation of the EULA will effect licensing fees, you can bet they will take notice.
I don't see how this makes the Linux community look bad at all.
Forcing someone to adhere to their portion of an agreement, under the penalty of rendering that agreement invalid, is not something anyone should be ashamed of.