once again...are you an idiot? Thats the dumbest argument for piracy ever. You are denying them the money you should be paying for a product. You are in effect, stealing that money from them...even if it never left your hands.
Let's say there is a concert going on....500 people show up. 250 paid for their tickets, the others snuck in. The others are not paying for the concert, in effect stealing the profits from the organizers...whether or not they would have paid at all in the first place is irrelevant. If they didn't pay they shouldn't have experienced the concert, since they didn't have a license to(ticket)...
Honestly, get the fuck over it. I hope you start a business someday..then tell me where it is. Or produce some profitable item...then we'll see how protective you get. Fact of the matter is, those who have nothing, care little about protection.
It's a game...get over it. Daggerfall, in the end was fairly limited as well. In the end there were specific goals you had to accomplish, just a few different ways to get there. All I wanted to do was open a store and run an assassin shop in the back.
partners.nytimes.com is just another webserver...they've taken no attempt to secure it, so linking shouldn't be a problem at all. It's no different than type www.altavista.com or whatnot...if they secured it and we exploited some way around it--it wouldn't be too nice. But as it stands it's just another webserver.
I agree totally with the drunk driving thing...although I'd support injecting them with a lethal dose of pure alcohol.
Also, for sex offenders: straight castration and sodomizing with a cucumber will suffice. I'm not kidding. When I lived in ohio, there was a story in the papers about some girls mother and brother(i think) who kidnapped the girls molestor and wrote on him with magic marker and assaulted him with a cucumber. Justice was served. These people choose to do these things and should face consequences. Look at any sexcrimes victim...they live with it for every minute of every day of the rest of their life. And the offender? 3 years? with all of it suspended minus the time in jail during the trial and a few years probation? Give me a fucking break. People(read: criminals in this context) are so apt to blame others and get away with it. Maybe if we had people take responsibility for their actions theyd think twice beforehand.
imagine some corporate making a script sending bad feedback to burry a concurrent website...
Ya...exactly...and also look at/. itself...half the moderators don't even read the threads or look beyond the poster's name. Personally, I'll still intrust myself to Yahoo! when looking for good content and badasses like altavista and google when searching for rare, specific phrases.
I could see spending a good amount of money personally on something like a mint box of the original Infocom Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Apple ][ edition--the plastic bag of pocket fluff and the peril sensitive sunglasses would be worth it alone. I have both the AppleII and the Tandy1000 version of the Hitchhiker's Guide.
I agree...or even a number of other robotics kits from companies like Parallax...most of Parllax's bots use microcontrollers programmable in basic. The ability to visualize your routines in a physical manner(such as an if-then-else for a robot's 'feeler' arm) can be a great tool. Along those lines there are many, many preassembled robotics kits that use very very easy to understand fuzzy logic...not so much programming but it's a great tool to teach kids(people) to think ahead and think in a 'programmers mindset'.
This of course strays away from computers, and maybe your children don't like electronics or robotics at all...but I've found it to be a good tool.
Like the posters above, Id have to say Python if its a strictly computer language...its a Very High Level Language(tm) and as you show a concern for Windows...the win32 version has tcl/tk support included and is very easy to use(and cross platform!;) )...albeit not as point and click as VB is for constructing GUI's..but it certainly will teach them OOP easily enough.
And like other posters have said...I wouldn't hesitate to throw BASIC at them...when you throw something with somewhat more restrictions in built-in ability into the mix, it forces you to think more creatively and ultimately to develop innovative ways of doing things...hell..you could even go grab them a couple of old Tandy1000's(what I learned on) or a C64 or an AppleII....if they don't already have their own computer to play and experiment with.
It just trawls up the question of whether it is ethical to use sites whose services you use, without viewing their ads.
Is it ethical to change the channel when a commercial comes on during a tv show? Uhhhh, yes(I know websites count 'hits' and tv shows are surveyed not 'hit' so dont give me that crap). I don't have to go out of my way to earn money for the company...in fact, I can go out of my way to deny them money. It's up to them to find a viable business model and make a profit. As far as ebay...I kind of side with them and kind of don't...if you are posting content, expect it to be viewed. I don't know if copyright can be involved in this or not? Repackaging information from places has been around for awhile.
I agree totally...those who have little protect will not want or feel as strong a need to protect others...I think it's ridiculous how people try to justify piracy...get the fuck over it...I get 'pirated' mp3's and games and other software...I burn my friends copy of q3a...la-tee-da...*I* admit it's illegal and accept that fact...just like when I smoke marijuana...although I understand and actually support the reasons for antipiracy(though not the measures taken) and don't understand why I cant drink or eat or smoke or do whatever the hell I want to my own body. But thats another story...
Point is...although I, like others...use mp3s to find rare music or preview you it..do the same for games...or games Ill play once in a blue moon@lan parties and just want the cd to install it...and though I don't feel like a criminal..seeming how I do purchase games/cds/software etc,etc...from the very same people I "steal" from...I *ACCEPT* the fact I am commiting a crime. There is no justification. The next time you want to 'justify' piracy...just think of someone coming into your home and taking your belongings....cause that, though not exactly, is what it is--theft.
Yes, we need to protect copyright holders. No..we shouldn't give companies fucking 90 year copyrights...yes we should look out for artists, no we shouldnt go on witchhunts and hunt down the 'criminals' who d/l their mp3s...cause you know what, they are the same people who buy the album...
sorry bout that...Im just sick of all the justification
do you listen to cds on your computer? Ever...why play em through those computer speals(no matter how good the setup) and not your own awesome stereo system? Huh?
And alot of people are actually boycotting DVD's to the extent of not wanting to buy the players but still wanting the DVDs for quality and what-not...so instead of giving into the dvd people...they say fuck the players and play em on their PC....
Besides, there's a use for everything...why the hell would people want to read the newspaper online when they can touch and feel and hold the whole large thing? Yes, besides the obvious answers it comes down to personal preference...so fucking chill and let people do what they want.
It doesn't mean anything to me...source code is just source code. Has absolutely nothing to do with the compiler...*YES* if you use their premade quick-program macros which generate source...or use any source they provide...they can restrict it. But, fact of the matter is...if you have code you wrote...it has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you used borland or not. That'd be like MS claiming anything bad about them you typed in MSword would be subject to license fees.
Instead of being a moronic Karma whore, why don't you read the fucking posts...many people have cited the official acts which give the patent rights to the universities...and not to all people. THATS the law...as much as you think you know what youre talking about.
f we limited production to government controlled plants that only made enough for the military (at least until we do away with them, too) and stopped random companies from making and selling guns there would be no guns to black market. LOL Thats the funniest thing Ive ever heard! Have you ever heard of...DRUGS?! Id say they get blackmarketed pretty well...seeming how there arent many heroin factories in the US.
You can tell me how the government will enslave us if we don't have guns, but that's all bullshit in this day and age. The government (controlled by corporations) has found non-violent ways to enslave us. They don't need a military state like they would have in the 1700s. I doubt many people would argue defense against the actual government anymore...its more or less against the citizens among us who commit crimes. And that is a natural right we have. And I sure as hell would want to be protected...but as a previous poster said...put up a "Gunfree house" sign on your door please. PLEASE? PRETTY PLEASE?!!
You can't assume that the person owning the gun is going to do something illegal with it. That goes against the concept of our judicial system. It is a fundamental right to protect yourself...and a law as well. I can use equal force in defending myself, others...and sometimes property. So....if it's safe to assume that many criminals are armed and dangerous..it's likely if I am victimized..said criminal will be armed with a gun or even a knife..or some deadly weapon. Therefore...I'd appreciate mine handy for defense.
Registering guns is a very good thing and having concealed weapons permits and courses too...they nearly eliminate your so called fears of not being safe...I have never heard of someone with a concealed weapons permit use their concealed weapon to commit a crime. Obviouslly Im sure there has been a case...but the fact of the matter is that most weapons used in crimes are unregistered and what-not.
Hey...it's your choice buddy...you wanna try beating the criminals to death with your little Nokia...go right ahead. Me? I'd much rather put a.22 in his head...and take a bite out of crime.
Time Warner is integrating cable, internet(roadrunner) and fone now(ip telefony) through your single coax around here...(Portland, ME)... I was actually visiting TW a few weeks ago and that was the thing most of the engineers were talking about...they've already set em up in the employees homes for testing. I didnt get a chance to see one in action though. AFIAK it's coming along well...and I think that the fact that TW is doing this...well, it may protect the existence of other VOIP things. Think: Two big Nasty companies dukin' it out...yes....TW wants to take on ma bell. And with that kind of clout...well, I think it'll be here to stay...and may eventually overrun the standard telco system.
For those of you not liking the the TW/AOL merger..and the fear of the big company...be afraid. Most of the people I talked to there are pretty much wanting control of the phone/inet/tv market...all through one coax. IMHO, not a very good thing to think about...all though, I think there is enough competition now a days to combat any monopolies forming in those areas...
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once again...are you an idiot? Thats the dumbest argument for piracy ever. You are denying them the money you should be paying for a product. You are in effect, stealing that money from them...even if it never left your hands.
Let's say there is a concert going on....500 people show up. 250 paid for their tickets, the others snuck in. The others are not paying for the concert, in effect stealing the profits from the organizers...whether or not they would have paid at all in the first place is irrelevant. If they didn't pay they shouldn't have experienced the concert, since they didn't have a license to(ticket)...
Honestly, get the fuck over it. I hope you start a business someday..then tell me where it is. Or produce some profitable item...then we'll see how protective you get. Fact of the matter is, those who have nothing, care little about protection.
And since we're talking about music compression software, shouldn't it be "algorythm" anyhow?
No. algorhythm maybe.
It's a game...get over it. Daggerfall, in the end was fairly limited as well. In the end there were specific goals you had to accomplish, just a few different ways to get there. All I wanted to do was open a store and run an assassin shop in the back.
partners.nytimes.com is just another webserver...they've taken no attempt to secure it, so linking shouldn't be a problem at all. It's no different than type www.altavista.com or whatnot...if they secured it and we exploited some way around it--it wouldn't be too nice. But as it stands it's just another webserver.
why is it libel? read the above definitions and present your facts please.
I agree totally with the drunk driving thing...although I'd support injecting them with a lethal dose of pure alcohol.
Also, for sex offenders: straight castration and sodomizing with a cucumber will suffice. I'm not kidding. When I lived in ohio, there was a story in the papers about some girls mother and brother(i think) who kidnapped the girls molestor and wrote on him with magic marker and assaulted him with a cucumber. Justice was served. These people choose to do these things and should face consequences. Look at any sexcrimes victim...they live with it for every minute of every day of the rest of their life. And the offender? 3 years? with all of it suspended minus the time in jail during the trial and a few years probation? Give me a fucking break. People(read: criminals in this context) are so apt to blame others and get away with it. Maybe if we had people take responsibility for their actions theyd think twice beforehand.
no..seeming how evil dead came first..and nearly every phrase duke says is from evil dead.
I wouldnt even get into this shit anymore with you anti-gun people. Just do me a favor.
PUT A "GUNFREE HOUSE" SIGN ON YOUR DOOR.
Please?
Prettyplease?
imagine some corporate making a script sending bad feedback to burry a concurrent website...
/. itself...half the moderators don't even read the threads or look beyond the poster's name. Personally, I'll still intrust myself to Yahoo! when looking for good content and badasses like altavista and google when searching for rare, specific phrases.
Ya...exactly...and also look at
I could see spending a good amount of money personally on something like a mint box of the original Infocom Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Apple ][ edition--the plastic bag of pocket fluff and the peril sensitive sunglasses would be worth it alone.
I have both the AppleII and the Tandy1000 version of the Hitchhiker's Guide.
I agree...or even a number of other robotics kits from companies like Parallax...most of Parllax's bots use microcontrollers programmable in basic. The ability to visualize your routines in a physical manner(such as an if-then-else for a robot's 'feeler' arm) can be a great tool. Along those lines there are many, many preassembled robotics kits that use very very easy to understand fuzzy logic...not so much programming but it's a great tool to teach kids(people) to think ahead and think in a 'programmers mindset'.
;) )...albeit not as point and click as VB is for constructing GUI's..but it certainly will teach them OOP easily enough.
;)
This of course strays away from computers, and maybe your children don't like electronics or robotics at all...but I've found it to be a good tool.
Like the posters above, Id have to say Python if its a strictly computer language...its a Very High Level Language(tm) and as you show a concern for Windows...the win32 version has tcl/tk support included and is very easy to use(and cross platform!
And like other posters have said...I wouldn't hesitate to throw BASIC at them...when you throw something with somewhat more restrictions in built-in ability into the mix, it forces you to think more creatively and ultimately to develop innovative ways of doing things...hell..you could even go grab them a couple of old Tandy1000's(what I learned on) or a C64 or an AppleII....if they don't already have their own computer to play and experiment with.
G'luck
It just trawls up the question of whether it is ethical to use sites whose services you use, without viewing their ads.
Is it ethical to change the channel when a commercial comes on during a tv show? Uhhhh, yes(I know websites count 'hits' and tv shows are surveyed not 'hit' so dont give me that crap). I don't have to go out of my way to earn money for the company...in fact, I can go out of my way to deny them money. It's up to them to find a viable business model and make a profit. As far as ebay...I kind of side with them and kind of don't...if you are posting content, expect it to be viewed. I don't know if copyright can be involved in this or not? Repackaging information from places has been around for awhile.
I agree totally...those who have little protect will not want or feel as strong a need to protect others...I think it's ridiculous how people try to justify piracy...get the fuck over it...I get 'pirated' mp3's and games and other software...I burn my friends copy of q3a...la-tee-da...*I* admit it's illegal and accept that fact...just like when I smoke marijuana...although I understand and actually support the reasons for antipiracy(though not the measures taken) and don't understand why I cant drink or eat or smoke or do whatever the hell I want to my own body. But thats another story...
Point is...although I, like others...use mp3s to find rare music or preview you it..do the same for games...or games Ill play once in a blue moon@lan parties and just want the cd to install it...and though I don't feel like a criminal..seeming how I do purchase games/cds/software etc,etc...from the very same people I "steal" from...I *ACCEPT* the fact I am commiting a crime. There is no justification. The next time you want to 'justify' piracy...just think of someone coming into your home and taking your belongings....cause that, though not exactly, is what it is--theft.
Yes, we need to protect copyright holders. No..we shouldn't give companies fucking 90 year copyrights...yes we should look out for artists, no we shouldnt go on witchhunts and hunt down the 'criminals' who d/l their mp3s...cause you know what, they are the same people who buy the album...
sorry bout that...Im just sick of all the justification
yes..they do... other people and the government shouldn't have to protect it for them... Id gladly exchange fire with BG
ask bubba
do you listen to cds on your computer? Ever...why play em through those computer speals(no matter how good the setup) and not your own awesome stereo system? Huh?
And alot of people are actually boycotting DVD's to the extent of not wanting to buy the players but still wanting the DVDs for quality and what-not...so instead of giving into the dvd people...they say fuck the players and play em on their PC....
Besides, there's a use for everything...why the hell would people want to read the newspaper online when they can touch and feel and hold the whole large thing? Yes, besides the obvious answers it comes down to personal preference...so fucking chill and let people do what they want.
It doesn't mean anything to me...source code is just source code. Has absolutely nothing to do with the compiler...*YES* if you use their premade quick-program macros which generate source...or use any source they provide...they can restrict it.
But, fact of the matter is...if you have code you wrote...it has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you used borland or not. That'd be like MS claiming anything bad about them you typed in MSword would be subject to license fees.
facts...to back your claims?
If you give the dell only 16mb of ram it'll run 123498035974359874305728567389% faster than the G4. Yup.
If you make statements. Back em up.
And I dont accept photoslop as a sole benchmark.
Instead of being a moronic Karma whore, why don't you read the fucking posts...many people have cited the official acts which give the patent rights to the universities...and not to all people. THATS the law...as much as you think you know what youre talking about.
f we limited production to government controlled plants that only made enough for the military (at least until we do away with them, too) and stopped random companies from making and selling guns there would be no guns to black market.
LOL Thats the funniest thing Ive ever heard! Have you ever heard of...DRUGS?! Id say they get blackmarketed pretty well...seeming how there arent many heroin factories in the US.
You can tell me how the government will enslave us if we don't have guns, but that's all bullshit in this day and age. The government (controlled by corporations) has found non-violent ways to enslave us. They don't need a military state like they would have in the 1700s.
I doubt many people would argue defense against the actual government anymore...its more or less against the citizens among us who commit crimes. And that is a natural right we have. And I sure as hell would want to be protected...but as a previous poster said...put up a "Gunfree house" sign on your door please. PLEASE? PRETTY PLEASE?!!
You're all sheep.
That would make you? You are repeating crap we have all heard a million times before....for not being a sheep...you sure are unoriginal
You can't assume that the person owning the gun is going to do something illegal with it. That goes against the concept of our judicial system. It is a fundamental right to protect yourself...and a law as well. I can use equal force in defending myself, others...and sometimes property. So....if it's safe to assume that many criminals are armed and dangerous..it's likely if I am victimized..said criminal will be armed with a gun or even a knife..or some deadly weapon. Therefore...I'd appreciate mine handy for defense.
.22 in his head...and take a bite out of crime.
Registering guns is a very good thing and having concealed weapons permits and courses too...they nearly eliminate your so called fears of not being safe...I have never heard of someone with a concealed weapons permit use their concealed weapon to commit a crime. Obviouslly Im sure there has been a case...but the fact of the matter is that most weapons used in crimes are unregistered and what-not.
Hey...it's your choice buddy...you wanna try beating the criminals to death with your little Nokia...go right ahead. Me? I'd much rather put a
Time Warner is integrating cable, internet(roadrunner) and fone now(ip telefony) through your single coax around here...(Portland, ME)...
I was actually visiting TW a few weeks ago and that was the thing most of the engineers were talking about...they've already set em up in the employees homes for testing. I didnt get a chance to see one in action though. AFIAK it's coming along well...and I think that the fact that TW is doing this...well, it may protect the existence of other VOIP things. Think: Two big Nasty companies dukin' it out...yes....TW wants to take on ma bell. And with that kind of clout...well, I think it'll be here to stay...and may eventually overrun the standard telco system.
For those of you not liking the the TW/AOL merger..and the fear of the big company...be afraid. Most of the people I talked to there are pretty much wanting control of the phone/inet/tv market...all through one coax. IMHO, not a very good thing to think about...all though, I think there is enough competition now a days to combat any monopolies forming in those areas...
forgot to say...
you can order em through Crutchfield...it's where I saw em. The units page is here.
Kenwood already has one for $650...plays standard cd's as well as cd-rs with mp3s burned on em...dunno if they support cdrws though.