The nice thing about Debian is they are way more conservative with their OS revisions. The nice thing about Redhat is they have more up-to-date packages, b/c they release more often than Debian.
Most people running Debian are running unstable(woody). New packages/upgrades to old packages are added daily - that is rather up-to-date if you ask me.
He has a good point. Slashdot comments are predictable. Even this one is a typical slashdot post... "bitch about the bitchers bitching about the bitchers bitching about the...."
I can't understand why anyone would want KDE to dissapear, what purpose would it serve? This article wasn't even concerning KDE, why bring it up.. it's good to be happy about GNOME's success, but there is no need to flame KDE over it.
Galeon is great.. no problem there.. but it would be that much better because of the bugs that could have been fixed in the time it took to code an IRC client into a BROWSER, which noone is going to use anyway? This is not bloat, it's just plain stupid.. the amount of time it has taken mozilla to come up with something.. and they're coding IRC clients?
You can avoid dselect.
I've still got slink CD's (*gasp*) - I just install, then when it asks me to run dselect, select no. dpkg is installed - just mount cdrom, install apt and some needed things, then apt-get does the rest.
Apt manages everything,.. system dependancies, the system's integrity, dpkg has a list of installed packages - apt-cache search allows you to search for available packages[to download/install]. The configuration of all the packages is done with deb-config or something, basicly when you install and there is a package that requires some user-setting up, a dialog/gui/whatever(configurable) will pop up and ask you to set it up. Very neat.
Also, I prefer binaries to source. I'm on a 56k modem, binaries are quite smaller than source, plus with binaries you just need to install - no compiling. What if I wanted to install mozilla? 25mb+ source..
If you are a source junkie, you can still use apt for getting/compiling source, just add deb-src in/etc/apt/sources.list
- then apt-get update; apt-get souce [package]
Relevant or not, I know I'll still be running Debian 2 years from now. And 2 years after that. (That is, if they keep on kicking).
Why? Because noone really runs potato or slink, most people run unstable. (No, it's not unstable. The possibility is just there because the packages change daily). apt is THE best installer for any distro, and it is the whole reason Debian rocks so hard. Anyone who tried Debian before apt came along, and was stuck with dselect, try it again. dselect is horrible, they know it - thats why apt came about.
The point, I thought, was not to use Mp3 anymore.. if I could convert all my Mp3s to ogg without quality loss, I get smaller file sizes and a free format:-)
If it's going to kill sound quality though, I think I'll pass. (Though file size is a factor.. 4gig HDD's just don't cut it anymore)
Sorry if this is redundant..
but I think the only way I would switch to this is if there was a "mp3-2-ogg" tool which would do the obvious. (Convert all my current mp3s to ogg files..)
I have no idea if this is even possible.. no flames required.
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That's the way:-) Everything is Microsoft's fault, they're the distruntled readers, who want a section for Linux.
So this is how all the sections came to be? Big corporations hiring people to post on slashdot, about how there should be another section for subject X? Never would have guessed:-)
People yell "MICROSHAFT SUCKS!@)#(@!", because of their reputation. People know the end product is going to suck, so why don't they just release it already?
Plus, Linux releases are released closer to the date it was intended than MS does, (as far as I know), and it actually shows that they were working out the bugs. (ie, it's stable).
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I think, the whiners are really complaining about it, because it's a point release, if it were a major thing, then I don't see how or why there would be a problem. If it's intended for the developers, they don't need it here, they're developers.. they generally know about this stuff (before slashdot/freshmeat does).
But then the idea of a software section on slashdot is very cool, just as long as it doesn't end up as freshmeat did..
I would still want to hear about major 'stuff' on the main page though:-)
It's not old, it's matured:-) Do you want a stable distro that took a bit longer than planned to finish, or an unstable one that you can have every so-often, and then have to apply 15 patches/month?
This is why I use debian, it's stable, tested. (Plus, apt-get is just plain cool:-)
Note: not intended as a flame. Nor am I saying that Debian's packaging system is "leet"-er than say, rpm.
Woody isn't the *next* one, as potato still isn't deemed 'stable'.. It's frozen, so there's no way they would use a development kernel in potato. However, by the time woody has matured, I'm guessing 2.4 will be ready, so there's no reason why they wouldn't include it in woody.
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Most people running Debian are running unstable(woody). New packages/upgrades to old packages are added daily - that is rather up-to-date if you ask me.
I have never quite understood this..
What advantages does Solaris have over Linux?
Not a flame, just curious.
He has a good point. Slashdot comments are predictable.
Even this one is a typical slashdot post... "bitch about the bitchers bitching about the bitchers bitching about the...."
Well at the time Cardinal's post hadn't been marked as flamebait.. :-)
I can't understand why anyone would want KDE to dissapear, what purpose would it serve? This article wasn't even concerning KDE, why bring it up.. it's good to be happy about GNOME's success, but there is no need to flame KDE over it.
Galeon is great.. no problem there.. but it would be that much better because of the bugs that could have been fixed in the time it took to code an IRC client into a BROWSER, which noone is going to use anyway? This is not bloat, it's just plain stupid.. the amount of time it has taken mozilla to come up with something.. and they're coding IRC clients?
How could it possibly have any affect on their "relationship"? It's just the rendering engine...
I agree with everything you said.. except..
The IRC client. Mozilla does NOT need an IRC client.
Mozilla is a BROWSER. Besides, it's horrible to use. And ugly (The IRC client is.. Mozilla itself is great).
That is a good point, but I think most Linux programmers would have too much pride to use BSD stuff.
Why don't you just rip-off apt and adjust it for slackware? I'm sure it couldn't be too difficult :)
You can avoid dselect. I've still got slink CD's (*gasp*) - I just install, then when it asks me to run dselect, select no. dpkg is installed - just mount cdrom, install apt and some needed things, then apt-get does the rest. Apt manages everything,.. system dependancies, the system's integrity, dpkg has a list of installed packages - apt-cache search allows you to search for available packages[to download/install]. The configuration of all the packages is done with deb-config or something, basicly when you install and there is a package that requires some user-setting up, a dialog/gui/whatever(configurable) will pop up and ask you to set it up. Very neat.
.. /etc/apt/sources.list
Also, I prefer binaries to source. I'm on a 56k modem, binaries are quite smaller than source, plus with binaries you just need to install - no compiling. What if I wanted to install mozilla? 25mb+ source
If you are a source junkie, you can still use apt for getting/compiling source, just add deb-src in
- then apt-get update; apt-get souce [package]
Relevant or not, I know I'll still be running Debian 2 years from now. And 2 years after that. (That is, if they keep on kicking).
Why? Because noone really runs potato or slink, most people run unstable. (No, it's not unstable. The possibility is just there because the packages change daily). apt is THE best installer for any distro, and it is the whole reason Debian rocks so hard. Anyone who tried Debian before apt came along, and was stuck with dselect, try it again. dselect is horrible, they know it - thats why apt came about.
The point, I thought, was not to use Mp3 anymore.. if I could convert all my Mp3s to ogg without quality loss, I get smaller file sizes and a free format :-)
If it's going to kill sound quality though, I think I'll pass.
(Though file size is a factor.. 4gig HDD's just don't cut it anymore)
Sorry if this is redundant..
but I think the only way I would switch to this is if there was a "mp3-2-ogg" tool which would do the obvious. (Convert all my current mp3s to ogg files..)
I have no idea if this is even possible.. no flames required.
Somehow, I think he was joking....
That's the way :-)
:-)
Everything is Microsoft's fault, they're the distruntled readers, who want a section for Linux.
So this is how all the sections came to be? Big corporations hiring people to post on slashdot, about how there should be another section for subject X?
Never would have guessed
Not that I'd put it past Microsoft...
People yell "MICROSHAFT SUCKS!@)#(@!", because of their reputation.
People know the end product is going to suck, so why don't they just release it already?
Plus, Linux releases are released closer to the date it was intended than MS does, (as far as I know), and it actually shows that they were working out the bugs. (ie, it's stable).
I think, the whiners are really complaining about it, because
:-)
it's a point release, if it were a major thing, then I don't
see how or why there would be a problem.
If it's intended for the developers, they don't need it here,
they're developers.. they generally know about this stuff
(before slashdot/freshmeat does).
But then the idea of a software section on slashdot is very cool,
just as long as it doesn't end up as freshmeat did..
I would still want to hear about major 'stuff' on the main page though
It's not old, it's matured :-)
:-)
Do you want a stable distro that took a bit longer than planned to finish,
or an unstable one that you can have every so-often, and then have to apply
15 patches/month?
This is why I use debian, it's stable, tested.
(Plus, apt-get is just plain cool
Note: not intended as a flame. Nor am I saying that
Debian's packaging system is "leet"-er than say, rpm.
Woody isn't the *next* one, as potato still isn't deemed 'stable'..
It's frozen, so there's no way they would use a development kernel
in potato. However, by the time woody has matured, I'm guessing
2.4 will be ready, so there's no reason why they wouldn't include it
in woody.
*fondles wget* i've been doing the same for around a year :-) wget owns.