DATA MINING ON THE INTERNET WORKS AND IT WORKS WELL.
Okay, I realise that using doubleclick type methods results in accurate data, but what are they doing with this data? Nobody is being particularly choosy about who to send spam to, and nobody is making their web pages dynamically adjust to target me. The only useful purpose is to draw correlations so that they know who to target. For this they don't actually need to know who I am.
Its not really that easy to corrupt the EU. The EU parliament consists of a large number of MP's, who already get paid a huge salary (Plus expenses and really not an awful lot of work), and would be sorry to give it up.
To summarize, the European parliament is too corrupted to be corrupted.
So, AC, what part of "superfluous lawsuit" don't you understand?
It seems Mattel doesn't understand the concept. They sue everyone and anyone. And most of the time they lose. (Mattel vs. Aqua, Mattel vs. Sorehands:), Mattel vs almost anyone really)
Is there a DVD player for BeOS, and *BSD? If not, DeCSS is necessary.
And this is an argument that would never end. Even the Amiga can be upgraded to use a G3 processor, so we need a DVD player for that too. So they produce one. Has anyone got a Sinclair QL with a stupidly fast processor? Or how about a player for people with slow machines but stupid quantities of fast storage. I want to be able to watch DVD movies reduced to 16 colours on my C64 connected to a raid system:)
Something that I think would be a nice idea would be a nice idea would be to make a closed surce version of DeCSS (It would unfortunately require a total rewrite to avoid GPL breaches) for windows, and make sure that it was much more secure against piracy than any licenced DVD player. Make sure it is even strict about region coding.
The purpose would be that this could be released without the MPAA being able to make any claim that it could be used for piracy. If it is ruled that this is legal, then the restrictions could be gradually removed.
I believe that the GPL does allow them to supply the source on a CD. There might be a clause which allows them to charge a reasonable amount for media cost and delivery as well.
Don't forget that the press does occasionally read slashdot.
More importantly, Slashdot readers write to the press. DeCSS is being described as "a tool to break the encryption on a DVD" rather than "a tool which allows copying of a DVD" whuch suggests they got a bit fed up with us lot emailing corrections.
Okay, I admit it was a bit of a rant. To put my feelings more calmly, I do feel that it would benefit the Amiga more to make this free. At $99 there won't be nearly enough demand to get a decent return on the development costs. It also has the unfortunate side effect of eliminating hobbyists.
Its also worth remembering that SAS/C was released purely as a commercial product rather than to encourage development for the platform. The include and library files on their own were available for a lot less.
I agree. It's ridiculous charging for the development kits. This is eliminating a very large number of potential developers of free software. Amigas were made popular by amateurs (even most professional games developers started of pcoding their Amigas as a hobby), not by large corporations. How many do they expect to sell anyway? It can't possibly match the development cost.
Okay. Rant over.
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I'm not totally convinced that there will be any noticable direct benefit to the movie industry. It will effectively make it legal to produce unlicenced DVD players, which will reduce their stranglehold on the market, and only give a minor sales increase.
I do feel that the electronics companies will benefit though. This could result in a lot of low cost improvements to MPEG decoders and create a free source of quality reference software, as well as low cost players.
except i don't think they said that on the simpsons.
True. Not sure where its from. Some of the signs on panels in Star Trek have things like that on them though. I've seen it written as furlong per fortnight as well.
The problem is that as you approach the speed of llight, the mass tends towards infinity. So the faster it moves, the more force is needed to rotate it, and to go from lightspeed to faster than light you need an infinite force.
MS will abandon a case if it feels that it has to high a chance of losing, or the cost of winning is higher than the gains they will make.
In this case, the actual gains would be fairly small. Ebay comprises a large proportion of the worlds online auction market, so the benefit would be to eliminatea all MS software frm ebay, and the other large auction sites. The overall value of this is not that great even over several years. The probability of winnming is also quite remote. I'm sure they could get a lot of people to swear under oath that they had not opened the box, after which a convincing argument could be made about not being bound by the agreement (sticky label not broken, software obviously not installed), and making parallels between selling a Microsoft CD and selling an audio CD (Okay, so the RIAA probably get upset over that too, but most people consider it to be their right)
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Well, as soon as you use your rebate card together with your credit card, they have your name too.
The data protection laws prevent them from doing this without your permission. European laws on this are really quite strict.
DATA MINING ON THE INTERNET WORKS AND IT WORKS WELL.
Okay, I realise that using doubleclick type methods results in accurate data, but what are they doing with this data? Nobody is being particularly choosy about who to send spam to, and nobody is making their web pages dynamically adjust to target me. The only useful purpose is to draw correlations so that they know who to target. For this they don't actually need to know who I am.
Its not really that easy to corrupt the EU. The EU parliament consists of a large number of MP's, who already get paid a huge salary (Plus expenses and really not an awful lot of work), and would be sorry to give it up.
To summarize, the European parliament is too corrupted to be corrupted.
So, AC, what part of "superfluous lawsuit" don't you understand?
It seems Mattel doesn't understand the concept. They sue everyone and anyone. And most of the time they lose. (Mattel vs. Aqua, Mattel vs. Sorehands:), Mattel vs almost anyone really)
Is there a DVD player for BeOS, and *BSD? If not, DeCSS is necessary.
And this is an argument that would never end. Even the Amiga can be upgraded to use a G3 processor, so we need a DVD player for that too. So they produce one. Has anyone got a Sinclair QL with a stupidly fast processor? Or how about a player for people with slow machines but stupid quantities of fast storage. I want to be able to watch DVD movies reduced to 16 colours on my C64 connected to a raid system:)
Something that I think would be a nice idea would be a nice idea would be to make a closed surce version of DeCSS (It would unfortunately require a total rewrite to avoid GPL breaches) for windows, and make sure that it was much more secure against piracy than any licenced DVD player. Make sure it is even strict about region coding.
The purpose would be that this could be released without the MPAA being able to make any claim that it could be used for piracy. If it is ruled that this is legal, then the restrictions could be gradually removed.
I believe that the GPL does allow them to supply the source on a CD. There might be a clause which allows them to charge a reasonable amount for media cost and delivery as well.
Don't forget that the press does occasionally read slashdot.
More importantly, Slashdot readers write to the press. DeCSS is being described as "a tool to break the encryption on a DVD" rather than "a tool which allows copying of a DVD" whuch suggests they got a bit fed up with us lot emailing corrections.
Okay, I admit it was a bit of a rant. To put my feelings more calmly, I do feel that it would benefit the Amiga more to make this free. At $99 there won't be nearly enough demand to get a decent return on the development costs. It also has the unfortunate side effect of eliminating hobbyists.
Its also worth remembering that SAS/C was released purely as a commercial product rather than to encourage development for the platform. The include and library files on their own were available for a lot less.
I agree. It's ridiculous charging for the development kits. This is eliminating a very large number of potential developers of free software. Amigas were made popular by amateurs (even most professional games developers started of pcoding their Amigas as a hobby), not by large corporations. How many do they expect to sell anyway? It can't possibly match the development cost.
Okay. Rant over.
I'm not totally convinced that there will be any noticable direct benefit to the movie industry. It will effectively make it legal to produce unlicenced DVD players, which will reduce their stranglehold on the market, and only give a minor sales increase.
I do feel that the electronics companies will benefit though. This could result in a lot of low cost improvements to MPEG decoders and create a free source of quality reference software, as well as low cost players.
Don't be so proud of this technological terror you have created. The ability to dominate a market is insignificant next to the power of the source.
How could anyone be so stupid as to offer an anticompetitive monopoly a home..?
it helps if its your anticompetitive monopoly.
Seems appropriate. Seen the MicroSith web page? It also compares NTie with the free Jedix OS.
Come on over here so we can get drunk, shoot you dead, and then loudly and raucously cheer your demise
Its a lot easier to get drunk in Europe. Our pints are larger, our beer is stronger, and a lot of EC countries sell it much cheaper than in America.
So how about we get drunk and go over there so you can shoot us dead and lodlay and raucously cheer our demise....
Maybe thats their idea. Perhaps they realise that its a stupid law and so they're going to take a dive.
Of course, they will have a bit of a problem since you haven't actually agreed to the licence.
except i don't think they said that on the simpsons.
True. Not sure where its from. Some of the signs on panels in Star Trek have things like that on them though. I've seen it written as furlong per fortnight as well.
A more suitable quote would have been "300 000 kilometres per second. It's not just a nice idea. It's the law."
The problem is that as you approach the speed of llight, the mass tends towards infinity. So the faster it moves, the more force is needed to rotate it, and to go from lightspeed to faster than light you need an infinite force.
Its a pretty dreadful state of afairs that people think that a computer needs a Windows OS, and so anything else has to be given a name.
Of course, by that argument, my C64 is an IA too.
yeah. Didn't they know the whole point of OSS is that it should be too complicated for WebTV users to use
Except use sysadmins rather than computers.
MS will abandon a case if it feels that it has to high a chance of losing, or the cost of winning is higher than the gains they will make.
In this case, the actual gains would be fairly small. Ebay comprises a large proportion of the worlds online auction market, so the benefit would be to eliminatea all MS software frm ebay, and the other large auction sites. The overall value of this is not that great even over several years. The probability of winnming is also quite remote. I'm sure they could get a lot of people to swear under oath that they had not opened the box, after which a convincing argument could be made about not being bound by the agreement (sticky label not broken, software obviously not installed), and making parallels between selling a Microsoft CD and selling an audio CD (Okay, so the RIAA probably get upset over that too, but most people consider it to be their right)
Rewrite it in VBScript so that it runs locally on compliant browsers.
Sorry..... I'll shoot myself now.
It depends what you're trying to do. Write "Hellow World" in java and perl. See which is most complicated.