times like these make me happy i play a accoustic instrument;). Well and that i have a loaded.22 and MREs in the basement;). i think y2k is gonna be funny, i mean who in his right mind would fly then, i mean at jan 1 2000 0:00? people are gonna be too busy having sex and drinking to worry about the power being off. Seriously, does anyone think there is gonna be any rioting? i mean ive been in LA durring a power outage over the whole west, scared me shitless without the rioting. thats what scares me not the power plant explosions or planes crashing, but a man coming in through the window to steal anything that works without electricity. there it is, question to/.: who's scared of rioting?
my real name is rob. hehe. i love rod stewart for one reason, the song: "if you want my body and you think im sexy". come on how can you not love him. plus he's 'tapped' all those supermodels, to me hes god like.
BTW, songs like maggie whatever make no sense to me.
calling the pres a prick is a bit harsh, and offtopic don't you believe.
BTW, after watching him on cspan on economic matters, im convinced at what a smart man we have runnning our country, even with obvious faults and problems like us all . thats why im worried about GW Bush, he never comes off as a intelligent man.
as for cpus: my guess is price, basically bang for buck under linux, even though it doesn't look like that at first glance. support for multi-cpus under linux is wanning[sp], and threaded application support is too.
tv card would be cool, i want one !
what are they gonna use that sb 128 for? doesnt really sound liek they would need something that high end, not really high end but real damn expensive;).
complex issues he sums up in simple words. he's right linux has not reached it's full potential and is no where near what it has been hyped as yet. when he says hope, i think he really means hope, he wants oss develepment to succeed, or at least challege microsoft. he's also right in pointing out that bill gates would be a better man of the year than jeff bezos. ecommerce is not really that new, its like catalog shopping on the internet, with a couple bells and whistles in the grand scheme of things i dont believe its that important. but if we are to give a man credit for it, give it to bill gates the man that turned a computer, albeit unintentionally, into a consumer tool. his company if anything made computers accessible to the masses. i believe in oss develepment, but if for all the bad things that bill gates and steve jobs have done to the industry, we have to at sometime notice their contribution. all men have evil in them, some more than others, these guys lucked out and used their evil for good too.;)
i don't think he thinks that amazon is a failure, just it hasnt turned a profit and microsoft is one of the largest most influentiul corporations in the world. e-commerce may be big this year, but its more of a side issue of what microsoft made the internet: a consumer tool. yes i know microsoft didnt make the internet, but it made it viable to consumers. no im a not a microsoft biggot, i dont like microsoft, but their is no doubting their influence on the world.
what makes him a fool? that he doesnt see linux as a viable destop? i dont either. it just isnt mature enough. i think your mad he doesnt like your os. get over it man.
is this worked out? whe i saw both of them last, they looked as if they were, well, basically running around like a chicken with its head cut off. they have no clear feature goals, plans, just a vaige[sp] idea, etc. email or post to this i sure would like to know and get in on the discussion.
i may sound like a closed source goon, but if they don't want to release there specs to open source programmers its there damn business, remember? sorry, but they have the right to warry about open source, we have to convince them on other merrits than gaining the linux market, because frankly i bet most of them don't care for this sliver of the market for another 2x's the work.
alough your other points about xf86 are very valid, xf86 *is* the standard, everyone knows how to deal with it, knock some points for open source.
your right the client right now must trust the client, even running the 'vanilla' server. mea culpa, the point i was trying to make is that you can cheat with the client too, and i did make that clear at all. but you continue to say that these problems will soon be fixed and its no big deal, i disagree. you offer no new suggestions. bring something new to the arguement;). the best solution ive heard talked about is the system netrek uses.
i disagree, this seems like one of those instances it wont work. jc is right, with the source open and me being able to enter as a server op "if name == mine, scale damage by 75%", i think this is one instance [there are several, alot more than OSS i believe] that closed source development is preferable because of the reasons i stated in another post:
-no clear leader for development [carmack is certainly not gonna continue develepment] -no standardation of versions, new features added break network compatability -cheating
i don't know if that specifically is the reason they didn't publish the lyrics, for those words specifically. the song is about dave's ex which he asked to marry him 3 times sehe said no everytime. i think its a interesting perspective, a man feeling, a feeling usually assiociated with women, 'the need for commitment'. lots of angst associated with the song too espescially on the BTCS version. please talk to me about it, love the discussion of jam band lyrics.;)
I have to disagree. I dont the thousand eyes theory applies here. leave a comment i want to hear what/. thinks. remember fair competition is important to quakers.
i think this exposes a large hole if OSS development. not that open source develepment is bad, its just the now that quake is open source it has flaws. although the source release of quake may good for developers trying something new or leaaning opengl development. its opened a whole world of possibilities to them. it has completely destroyed quake1 culture. team fortress players, a segment of quake players that never really moved on to q2 or q3, after a bit of wanning of interest have finally got there death blow.
disadvantages: -no clear leader [carmack is certainly not gonna continue develepment] -no standardation of versions -cheating
this has already been discussed on quake newsgroups. it gave them rcon access to servers, but was removed when people started spoofing the id subdomain. yes it is a bit of a invasion of privacy but there has been a fix for awhile.
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hmmm. if you import the models you can, import the skins and animations. ive seen programs that make quake1 maps into quake2/quake3 maps. i think if in the future there is a quake3/4/5 etc. source release we could easily move right to that new source. the question is will people accept it. backwards compatibility is a big issue; i know die-hard quake1 players that wont touch quake3 because of the 'feel'. imagine getting everyone in the metaverse to change to the new quake3 engine, a much slower, albeit prettier engine. but damn even talking about these possibilities is exciting.
any computer you have to upgrade the hardware before you have to reboot is cool. how is freebsd's perfomance compared to linux? oh , and, can i run gnome or kde on it?
I don't think you know the slightest thing about gamers. I think its a broad generalization that they bring nothing to the linux platform, i think thats somthing that geeks should try and stay away from. Programmers, artists, and designers work on TC's all the time. How else would you have CTF? Quake players are a avid, hard working computer user group. They are twice as hardcore, and have twice the gusto as any/. poster. So don't try and tell them they can't install redhat. Not only are they incredible apologists, I bet half of them work to further the quake community in some way. And the other half is testing the software the others make, and unlike some others they make sure to let there problems known and help in any way they can to make that software better.
They use windows because nothing runs on Linux. And I have to agree with them any Unix is hardly a viable desktop platform. They want to play there games, let them
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Moderate this man up. Comment makes sense, and provides clear picture of what the world wants. Bravo. I'm sorry not everyone loves linux like we do.
i know i thought the same thing when i saw this on /. . The movie was "airplane 2" though.
times like these make me happy i play a accoustic instrument ;). Well and that i have a loaded .22 and MREs in the basement ;). i think y2k is gonna be funny, i mean who in his right mind would fly then, i mean at jan 1 2000 0:00? people are gonna be too busy having sex and drinking to worry about the power being off. /.: who's scared of rioting?
Seriously, does anyone think there is gonna be any rioting? i mean ive been in LA durring a power outage over the whole west, scared me shitless without the rioting. thats what scares me not the power plant explosions or planes crashing, but a man coming in through the window to steal anything that works without electricity.
there it is, question to
my real name is rob. hehe. i love rod stewart for one reason, the song: "if you want my body and you think im sexy". come on how can you not love him. plus he's 'tapped' all those supermodels, to me hes god like.
BTW, songs like maggie whatever make no sense to me.
calling the pres a prick is a bit harsh, and offtopic don't you believe.
BTW, after watching him on cspan on economic matters, im convinced at what a smart man we have runnning our country, even with obvious faults and problems like us all . thats why im worried about GW Bush, he never comes off as a intelligent man.
as for cpus:
;).
my guess is price, basically bang for buck under linux, even though it doesn't look like that at first glance. support for multi-cpus under linux is wanning[sp], and threaded application support is too.
tv card would be cool, i want one !
what are they gonna use that sb 128 for? doesnt really sound liek they would need something that high end, not really high end but real damn expensive
complex issues he sums up in simple words. he's right linux has not reached it's full potential and is no where near what it has been hyped as yet. when he says hope, i think he really means hope, he wants oss develepment to succeed, or at least challege microsoft. he's also right in pointing out that bill gates would be a better man of the year than jeff bezos. ecommerce is not really that new, its like catalog shopping on the internet, with a couple bells and whistles in the grand scheme of things i dont believe its that important. but if we are to give a man credit for it, give it to bill gates the man that turned a computer, albeit unintentionally, into a consumer tool. his company if anything made computers accessible to the masses. ;)
i believe in oss develepment, but if for all the bad things that bill gates and steve jobs have done to the industry, we have to at sometime notice their contribution.
all men have evil in them, some more than others, these guys lucked out and used their evil for good too.
i don't think he thinks that amazon is a failure, just it hasnt turned a profit and microsoft is one of the largest most influentiul corporations in the world. e-commerce may be big this year, but its more of a side issue of what microsoft made the internet: a consumer tool. yes i know microsoft didnt make the internet, but it made it viable to consumers.
no im a not a microsoft biggot, i dont like microsoft, but their is no doubting their influence on the world.
what makes him a fool? that he doesnt see linux as a viable destop? i dont either. it just isnt mature enough. i think your mad he doesnt like your os. get over it man.
is this worked out? whe i saw both of them last, they looked as if they were, well, basically running around like a chicken with its head cut off. they have no clear feature goals, plans, just a vaige[sp] idea, etc. email or post to this i sure would like to know and get in on the discussion.
thanks
i may sound like a closed source goon, but if they don't want to release there specs to open source programmers its there damn business, remember? sorry, but they have the right to warry about open source, we have to convince them on other merrits than gaining the linux market, because frankly i bet most of them don't care for this sliver of the market for another 2x's the work.
alough your other points about xf86 are very valid, xf86 *is* the standard, everyone knows how to deal with it, knock some points for open source.
your right the client right now must trust the client, even running the 'vanilla' server. mea culpa, the point i was trying to make is that you can cheat with the client too, and i did make that clear at all. but you continue to say that these problems will soon be fixed and its no big deal, i disagree. you offer no new suggestions. bring something new to the arguement ;). the best solution ive heard talked about is the system netrek uses.
i disagree, this seems like one of those instances it wont work. jc is right, with the source open and me being able to enter as a server op "if name == mine, scale damage by 75%", i think this is one instance [there are several, alot more than OSS i believe] that closed source development is preferable because of the reasons i stated in another post:
-no clear leader for development [carmack is certainly not gonna continue develepment]
-no standardation of versions, new features added break network compatability
-cheating
i don't know if that specifically is the reason they didn't publish the lyrics, for those words specifically. the song is about dave's ex which he asked to marry him 3 times sehe said no everytime. i think its a interesting perspective, a man feeling, a feeling usually assiociated with women, 'the need for commitment'. lots of angst associated with the song too espescially on the BTCS version. please talk to me about it, love the discussion of jam band lyrics. ;)
I have to disagree. I dont the thousand eyes theory applies here. leave a comment i want to hear what /. thinks. remember fair competition is important to quakers.
just the game code. the c vm game code.
i think this exposes a large hole if OSS development. not that open source develepment is bad, its just the now that quake is open source it has flaws. although the source release of quake may good for developers trying something new or leaaning opengl development. its opened a whole world of possibilities to them. it has completely destroyed quake1 culture. team fortress players, a segment of quake players that never really moved on to q2 or q3, after a bit of wanning of interest have finally got there death blow.
disadvantages:
-no clear leader [carmack is certainly not gonna continue develepment]
-no standardation of versions
-cheating
and a bottle of scotch. ...well not from me of course, but you deserve one ;).
and a bottle of scotch. ...well not from me of course; but you deserve one ;).
this has already been discussed on quake newsgroups. it gave them rcon access to servers, but was removed when people started spoofing the id subdomain. yes it is a bit of a invasion of privacy but there has been a fix for awhile.
hmmm. if you import the models you can, import the skins and animations. ive seen programs that make quake1 maps into quake2/quake3 maps. i think if in the future there is a quake3/4/5 etc. source release we could easily move right to that new source. the question is will people accept it. backwards compatibility is a big issue; i know die-hard quake1 players that wont touch quake3 because of the 'feel'. imagine getting everyone in the metaverse to change to the new quake3 engine, a much slower, albeit prettier engine. but damn even talking about these possibilities is exciting.
The other comments repilying to this thread are half truths, half-life is mostly quake 1 code modified by valve with some quake2 components.
any computer you have to upgrade the hardware before you have to reboot is cool. how is freebsd's perfomance compared to linux? oh , and, can i run gnome or kde on it?
thanks a bunch
I don't think you know the slightest thing about gamers. I think its a broad generalization that they bring nothing to the linux platform, i think thats somthing that geeks should try and stay away from. Programmers, artists, and designers work on TC's all the time. How else would you have CTF? Quake players are a avid, hard working computer user group. They are twice as hardcore, and have twice the gusto as any /. poster. So don't try and tell them they can't install redhat. Not only are they incredible apologists, I bet half of them work to further the quake community in some way. And the other half is testing the software the others make, and unlike some others they make sure to let there problems known and help in any way they can to make that software better.
They use windows because nothing runs on Linux. And I have to agree with them any Unix is hardly a viable desktop platform. They want to play there games, let them
Rob
got to love the US Judicial System, although I can't help saying it funny ;) comes out like im drunk.
BTW, Dana Carvey is god.