... How do you provide open source without escrow, yet protect what we are documenting up front as out intellectual property rights in the ownership of this code?"
First off, find out that what you are talking about is not open source. If it was open source, or a compatible license, than your client company would be free to redistribute.
Second, it's called a contract. And lawyers. Slashdot is neither. Just (have a lawyer) draft a contract specifying exactly what can be done and saying anything not listed is expressly forbidden unless written permission is granted.
There is no argument. That's why I'm winning, you are just apparently to thick-headed to understand this.
Let me recap: Someone said Washington state had the highest taxes on gas. I said that a lot of people from Portland and Salem drive to Washington to fill up because on average it is cheaper, and I recall someone saying that the gas stations couldn't itemize the attendants salaries in the cost of the gas. Now, it doesn't seem logical that Washington has the highest gas tax because it is on average about $0.30 cheaper in Washington than in California. Maybe there are other factors, but I doubt it's gas tax. I was not arguing that they were wrong, I don't know how gas tax works. I wasn't saying the pump attendants salary was magical and just appeared, only that I had heard that it wasn't allowed to be itemized into the price of the gas.
All you have said is I don't have a clue about economics, and stating I believe some magic money gets delivered to the gas stations when I never said such things. You also seem to be completely bent on not reading what I'm writing, only repeating yourself. Then, when there was absolutely no way that you could sound logical by repeating yourself, claim victory.
Yup, you sure are a winner. I bet your mother is beaming with pride.
And you can't seem to remember from one post to the next what your argument actually was.
What was my argument? I never had an argument. It's your dumb ass that turned a simple statement into something it wasn't.
Fact of the matter is this: Gas is cheaper in Washington (Vancouver) than in Portland. However, in middle of Oregon it often isn't. Gas is also cheaper in Oregon than it is in California.
As far as I knew, which I had heard, gas stations were not allowed to increase the cost of gas and itemize attendants based off of it.
I'm not sure why your quest is to troll me (this is the second time attempting) but you really should try to get a new hobby. You don't win, then you try to proclaim that I lost when you have nothing more to argue because you don't know jack shit about what you attempt to speak about. It's pretty convenient, isn't it? Speak up about a topic you know nothing about, then say you won. I wish life actually worked that way, it'd be much easier.
Go move out of your parents basement and experience reality.
This from the guy who thinks the money to pay gas station attendents just magically appears.
Cause they couldn't charge for it in the gas, now could they?? Naw, its against the law!
You really are a bad troll. You are uninformed when I am informed. You should try something else, like self-lobotomization.
I'm not sure which is worse- the politicians who believed this nonsense or that you still do- even though you have to pay more for gas than you would have otherwise. Wrong, California metro is more expensive by far than Portland metro.
IF it isn't worth your time going to Washintgon, the ONLY reason is washington has much higher gas taxes. Otherwise, being able to pump it yourself has got to be worth $0.10 a gallon.
I go to Washington 3-4 times a week, I save money by filling up there when I am up there. I prefer to pump my own gas, as I don't trust people with my car. I'm very fond of my car, and it would be very expensive to fix. If I fuck it up, it's my fault. If they fuck it up, I can sue them and probably get dicked.
As for Washingtons taxes, what started this is someone saying Washington has the most tax. That's wrong, California is more expensive than Oregon which is more expensive than Washington. You do the math, and tell me how that works out even with the "magic" salaries.
I'm assuming another illogical, retarded post is going to spew from you. Does it suck when most people are smarter farting than you when talking?
You're the one who thinks the salaries for gas station attendents magically appears out of nowhere and isn't built into the price of gas. Uhm, no I don't. I said that (as it used to be) gas stations were not allowed to put an increase in their gas price purely to pay the attendants salaries. There are plenty of places in Oregon where gas is cheaper than in Washington. Even in Portland (largest city in Oregon) it's about $0.20 cheaper a gallon than in the San Francisco Bay Area. Where's your magic salary now? It's not blunt headed stupidity, you are just illiterate.
And you think I'm not productive to society? What the hell do you think makes me so pissed about taxes? Seeing tens of thousands of my hard earned dollars wasted every year giving idiots like you a non-education, is a good start.
Yup, you have to be illiterate. I said that if your life was in any way reflected by your literacy skill than there is no way you could be productive. It seems as if you consume far more than you generate, because of your complete lack of reasoning or logic. If you get paid more than tens of thousands a year than I would say that your employers are getting ripped off.
But thank you for standing behind the magic money theory-- I've never gotten a liberal to do it, they always say they don't but their math never adds up. (Another product of our fine educational system- idiots who can't add.)
I'm sure my math skills are much more advanced than yours, considering your literary rate seems to be on par with the 8 year old neighbor I have.
Life insurance likely wouldn't be paid out by the airplane company's insurance company unless they were liable. However given the way lawyers work, that may crop up. At a bear minimum more lawyers would be involved and they all want to be paid, driving up costs. So if the humans can walk away uninjured, that saves a considerable amount of money and headache.
If you think the airplane company is going to give a damn about a small time pilot getting killed through their defective manufacturing I have a beach front condo in Arizona Bay to sell you.
Here's what happens, you sue them. They file bankruptcy, sell assets to another company and start over. Or, they give you a small payout.
I'm speaking from first hand experience, they don't give a damn.
If you had one iota of a clue you'd realize that an Oregon state law actually applies to all of Oregon, much of which is more than 5 minutes away from the border with Washington.
And if you had a clue, you would understand that out of 5 large cities (ones that would require more than one attendant on duty) in Oregon, only 3 are more than an hour from another state.
Most of Oregon is incredibly rural, with towns averaging in size of about 10,000. With 3-4 stations per town, they are never too busy with only having one attendant.
If you don't have anything intelligent, or informed (as you don't seem to have a clue about Oregon), don't contribute. It's ok to just let a thread go by without adding your (irrelevant and uniformed) opinion.
Easy there hos. You obviously need to take a deep breath and understand that this is not some zany liberal movement. Oregon has had this law since before you were born, would be my guess.
What a startling and fundamental ignorance of economics this post represents. How does my post illustrate fundamental ignorance of economics? Are you really that stupid? Here is economics for you: Gas station in Oregon charges $0.30 more for the attendant, doesn't get any business because everyone just goes to Washington instead. How's that for economics?
Yeah the gas station attendants salaries magically appear. The price of the gas does not take keeping them on the payroll into account, right? If you had one iota of a clue of how it worked over here you would know it isn't even a choice for them to raise the price of gas to take care of the increased salaries from the attendants. People would go 5 minutes to Washington.
No wonder you guys think governments should be allowed to force companies to charge less than cost for things (like electricity.) Us guys? Who the hell are you talking to? You don't know me, you don't know my views. Maybe you should clarify this. That would require you not being a jackass though.
Do the world a favor, kill yourself, you obviously can't contribute anything worthwhile if your post is any sign of who you are. Your contribution to the economy can be not being a burden on it.
...while the two very busy gas stations down the street from me, here in Seattle, only have one person on even during the evening rush hour--just sitting behind the counter, raking in the cash. So, that's where I'm seeing a difference in staffing.
Strange, the main filling station I use in Vancouver has 2 people working always (Except once or twice when I was there). Even around midnight when you don't see hardly any cars.
Not sure about diplomats, but you can enter politics. Each town needs a mayor. No mob bosses since the Hutt faction got cut but maybe in an expansion. You can be a smuggler though. Take a look at the professions list [sony.com]. It's quite interesting.
I can be reasonably sure that the game lacks the infastructure to establish a real mob-feel to it. Diplomats are just mobsters backed by an army.
Then you ARE paying for them at the pump. They just aren't allowed to itemize it explicitly as a seperate thing on the receipt. Unless the gas station is operating in the red, you betcha some of that money eventually ends up paying the pump attendants. That's the only possible way to do it unless their pay is part of some state welfare program.
What I was saying, and I'm sure you gathered this and are just arguing for the sake of, is gas stations are not allowed to increase the cost of gas purely for the gas attendants salaries. They'd go out of business around here even if they did as everyone would just drive to Washington.
The whole mandatory gas attendant thing seems silly to me. And Oregon's not the only place. The first time I saw it was when visiting New Jersey, and I thought it was just part of the oddity of New Jersey. I didn't know it was a common phenomenon.
AFAIK, this may have changed since I last looked, these are the only two where it is illegal to pump your own gas.
Who do you trust? Linux? [yahoo.com] That's a bad troll. Both on your part and on Yahoo's part. This has already been discussed in length, and while a number of different software packages and operating systems have a higher number of CERT advisories combined than Microsoft, Microsoft is still less secure.
That article says this: Microsoft Products hav fewer CERT advisories than Linux and Open Source combined.
Well.. Open Source: FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Linux, Gnome, Mozilla, KDE, BIND, Sendmail, etc. What does Microsoft have that CERT would report on: IIS, Operating System, and IE.
Not only that, but just counting the number of vulnerabilities reported on CERT is like counting the number of times you have cut yourself and saying that you bleed more than your friend who has cut himself half as much as you, but one time lost half his blood in one cut.
I find it hard to believe that with telekinetic, laser-sword wielding demi-gods running around that anyone would want to be a bartender, mercenary, imperial officer(you apparently can be an officer, just not a storm trooper. Unless you want to spend your online time manning some post on Hoth), etc. Now while this is bad news, mark my words: the Jedi cap would be removed in a month. The first time they saw 10,000 accounts get canceled because players were forced to make at-at repair crew avatars, they would lift that ban so fast heads would spin.
Shit, I would be all over being a bartender. Then owning my own bar. Then employeeing some jedi's. If there were Diplomats and Mob Bosses in these games I would actually play.
Start out earning some cash in a bar, open my own bar, open another, start excercising taxes on people wanting safety in my bars. Smuggling runs...
That's what I'd like to see in an MMORPG. I have one designed that operates like this, but am too busy to start on the code.
I wasn't thinking of the small ones so much--the thing is, even at large, busy Washington stations, there's usually still only one person working. In Oregon, that doesn't seem to be the case--someone to watch the till, and one or two guys out running around pumping gas. Where do you come up with those extra two salaries, if not from your main source of revenue (gas, presumably)?
Most of the large gas stations have at least 2. Sometimes more, because a lot of the large stations have 2+ full service pumps. I don't think that there is actually a large difference in number of employees between same-sized filling stations across Washington and Oregon. Now I'm going to have to find out... damnit.
I was mostly being flippant, but I don't see how that wouldn't have to be passed along in the price somehow. I mean, really, how else could you pay for the labor? Gas sales must be the majority of sales at gas stations, even the convenience store types... how could they avoid passing the cost along and still somehow stay in business?
Well, the gas attendants are also the ones who run the convenience stores. They are multipurpose. At the smaller stations in Washington they have one attendant working. Same in Oregon, they are just busier. If you are paying for an attendant no matter what (whether they are pumping or not) you may as well have them work harder and pump some gas.
I personally prefer pumping my own gas, as I've had people damage my car putting gas into it (spilling gas on the paint, and not cleaning it) and I just don't trust them.
Well, our stations don't have labor costs of keeping some poor, unschooled schmuck around to pump the gas for you; cost savings passed on to you, the consumer!
God bless Washington--a place where a man can stand tall and pump his own damn gas!
So I'm not really a native to Oregon, so this was really confusing to me. I went and looked it up, and they cannot charge extra for having to pump the gas. It cannot be included in the price of the gas. Seems rather stupid, and I don't know if the actual stations follow it or not but it's rather retarded that people can't pump their own gas.
Of course, in some of the more rural areas of Oregon I wouldn't want them handling gasoline either...
Folks who don't know Seattle don't realize that rail will succeed there for the exact same reason the current most successful use of it is Portland, OR: folks in that corner of the country are very environmentally correct (especially the loggers who improve the forests by removing the large combustable objects!). Not to mention the retro-techno-wiz factor in monorail - lots of fans of that out there too.
Coming from a Portlander... I really hope the Seattle monorail doesn't turn into what the Portland MAX (Light rail) has. In the winter time, through Fareless square (Downtown) it's more of a shelter for bums. In the summer time, it's more of a shelter for bums.
I don't care about bums, that's fine, but I'm not going to commute on a line that has 15 dirty old men asking me for spare change and when I say no have half of them try to fight me. I used to ride the Max all the time to work, but I got fed up with it. Most people that I work with have also given it up that have to take it through downtown (West side residents, as opposed to east side residents)
My guess is that the train tickets will be priced to compete with the commuter air tickets. So $100 or more (but without the wait time and full body cavity search).
So it's going to cost more and I don't get the cavity search? Screw that, I'm sticking with American Air.
Their site mentions that in Japan the average deviation from schedule is 24 seconds. Last night at 1am I saw a train that was over an hour late! (I think it came from Scotland). We have highly advanced display systems just to tell you how late each train or bus is:-). Mind you, the displays at local bus-stops giving estimates of which busses will arrive and when aren't 100% accurate.
That's complete bunk about Japan. I know from my first hand experience it's an average of 26 seconds. Don't trust JRL, they're numbers aren't right.
We may find money and motivation to improve service from Portland to our state capital at Salem (about 45 miles south) but there's not much hope of significant improvements south to the California border any time soon. It would be extremely expensive and the potential traffic is far, far lower than that on the Portland to Seattle route (the faster trains on this route are frequently full).
They could resolve the Portland -> Salem problem but putting things aside from the Capital that people want to see. Who really goes from Portland to Salem for fun or anything other than a "have to"?
The Max is now going to Vancouver, which is going to be handy. I'm really hoping that we can get a train network like Japan. You can take local trains, similar to a subway system for cheap but they are slow (Max) or a limited express for a little bit more (Like Amtrak, but cheaper ($20 from Portland to Seattle)), and a bullet train that would cost quite a bit but cruises at 180mph.
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There was not a proliferation of "*", however there was ". .
As others have pointed out, * is asterisk.
Thank you, but a dictionary is merely a collection of words. He could find it assuming he looked in the right dictionary.
On a side note, I would suggest not using the ellipse so often. It detracts from your statements and makes reading awkward.
As the wonderful people that responded have pointed out, I believe an apology is in order.
Thanks, have a nice day.
... How do you provide open source without escrow, yet protect what we are documenting up front as out intellectual property rights in the ownership of this code?"
First off, find out that what you are talking about is not open source. If it was open source, or a compatible license, than your client company would be free to redistribute.
Second, it's called a contract. And lawyers. Slashdot is neither. Just (have a lawyer) draft a contract specifying exactly what can be done and saying anything not listed is expressly forbidden unless written permission is granted.
Yout think you're winning the argument?
There is no argument. That's why I'm winning, you are just apparently to thick-headed to understand this.
Let me recap:
Someone said Washington state had the highest taxes on gas. I said that a lot of people from Portland and Salem drive to Washington to fill up because on average it is cheaper, and I recall someone saying that the gas stations couldn't itemize the attendants salaries in the cost of the gas. Now, it doesn't seem logical that Washington has the highest gas tax because it is on average about $0.30 cheaper in Washington than in California. Maybe there are other factors, but I doubt it's gas tax. I was not arguing that they were wrong, I don't know how gas tax works. I wasn't saying the pump attendants salary was magical and just appeared, only that I had heard that it wasn't allowed to be itemized into the price of the gas.
All you have said is I don't have a clue about economics, and stating I believe some magic money gets delivered to the gas stations when I never said such things. You also seem to be completely bent on not reading what I'm writing, only repeating yourself. Then, when there was absolutely no way that you could sound logical by repeating yourself, claim victory.
Yup, you sure are a winner. I bet your mother is beaming with pride.
And you can't seem to remember from one post to the next what your argument actually was.
What was my argument? I never had an argument. It's your dumb ass that turned a simple statement into something it wasn't.
Fact of the matter is this: Gas is cheaper in Washington (Vancouver) than in Portland. However, in middle of Oregon it often isn't. Gas is also cheaper in Oregon than it is in California.
As far as I knew, which I had heard, gas stations were not allowed to increase the cost of gas and itemize attendants based off of it.
I'm not sure why your quest is to troll me (this is the second time attempting) but you really should try to get a new hobby. You don't win, then you try to proclaim that I lost when you have nothing more to argue because you don't know jack shit about what you attempt to speak about. It's pretty convenient, isn't it? Speak up about a topic you know nothing about, then say you won. I wish life actually worked that way, it'd be much easier.
Go move out of your parents basement and experience reality.
This from the guy who thinks the money to pay gas station attendents just magically appears.
Cause they couldn't charge for it in the gas, now could they?? Naw, its against the law!
You really are a bad troll. You are uninformed when I am informed. You should try something else, like self-lobotomization.
I'm not sure which is worse- the politicians who believed this nonsense or that you still do- even though you have to pay more for gas than you would have otherwise.
Wrong, California metro is more expensive by far than Portland metro.
IF it isn't worth your time going to Washintgon, the ONLY reason is washington has much higher gas taxes. Otherwise, being able to pump it yourself has got to be worth $0.10 a gallon.
I go to Washington 3-4 times a week, I save money by filling up there when I am up there. I prefer to pump my own gas, as I don't trust people with my car. I'm very fond of my car, and it would be very expensive to fix. If I fuck it up, it's my fault. If they fuck it up, I can sue them and probably get dicked.
As for Washingtons taxes, what started this is someone saying Washington has the most tax. That's wrong, California is more expensive than Oregon which is more expensive than Washington. You do the math, and tell me how that works out even with the "magic" salaries.
I'm assuming another illogical, retarded post is going to spew from you. Does it suck when most people are smarter farting than you when talking?
You're the one who thinks the salaries for gas station attendents magically appears out of nowhere and isn't built into the price of gas.
Uhm, no I don't. I said that (as it used to be) gas stations were not allowed to put an increase in their gas price purely to pay the attendants salaries. There are plenty of places in Oregon where gas is cheaper than in Washington. Even in Portland (largest city in Oregon) it's about $0.20 cheaper a gallon than in the San Francisco Bay Area. Where's your magic salary now? It's not blunt headed stupidity, you are just illiterate.
And you think I'm not productive to society? What the hell do you think makes me so pissed about taxes? Seeing tens of thousands of my hard earned dollars wasted every year giving idiots like you a non-education, is a good start.
Yup, you have to be illiterate. I said that if your life was in any way reflected by your literacy skill than there is no way you could be productive. It seems as if you consume far more than you generate, because of your complete lack of reasoning or logic. If you get paid more than tens of thousands a year than I would say that your employers are getting ripped off.
But thank you for standing behind the magic money theory-- I've never gotten a liberal to do it, they always say they don't but their math never adds up. (Another product of our fine educational system- idiots who can't add.)
I'm sure my math skills are much more advanced than yours, considering your literary rate seems to be on par with the 8 year old neighbor I have.
Life insurance likely wouldn't be paid out by the airplane company's insurance company unless they were liable. However given the way lawyers work, that may crop up. At a bear minimum more lawyers would be involved and they all want to be paid, driving up costs. So if the humans can walk away uninjured, that saves a considerable amount of money and headache.
If you think the airplane company is going to give a damn about a small time pilot getting killed through their defective manufacturing I have a beach front condo in Arizona Bay to sell you.
Here's what happens, you sue them. They file bankruptcy, sell assets to another company and start over. Or, they give you a small payout.
I'm speaking from first hand experience, they don't give a damn.
6 of 10 spatial dimensions are "compactified" and only exist on the sub-atomic scale.
I was aware (thank you Michio Kaku) but it was just a funny (incorrect) way of writing it out.
And there is no reasonable argument for the choice of 11 dimensions (1 time, 10 space, 6 compactified).
;)
Are you sure you are a mathematician?
If you had one iota of a clue you'd realize that an Oregon state law actually applies to all of Oregon, much of which is more than 5 minutes away from the border with Washington.
And if you had a clue, you would understand that out of 5 large cities (ones that would require more than one attendant on duty) in Oregon, only 3 are more than an hour from another state.
Most of Oregon is incredibly rural, with towns averaging in size of about 10,000. With 3-4 stations per town, they are never too busy with only having one attendant.
If you don't have anything intelligent, or informed (as you don't seem to have a clue about Oregon), don't contribute. It's ok to just let a thread go by without adding your (irrelevant and uniformed) opinion.
Easy there hos. You obviously need to take a deep breath and understand that this is not some zany liberal movement. Oregon has had this law since before you were born, would be my guess.
What a startling and fundamental ignorance of economics this post represents.
How does my post illustrate fundamental ignorance of economics? Are you really that stupid? Here is economics for you: Gas station in Oregon charges $0.30 more for the attendant, doesn't get any business because everyone just goes to Washington instead. How's that for economics?
Yeah the gas station attendants salaries magically appear. The price of the gas does not take keeping them on the payroll into account, right?
If you had one iota of a clue of how it worked over here you would know it isn't even a choice for them to raise the price of gas to take care of the increased salaries from the attendants. People would go 5 minutes to Washington.
No wonder you guys think governments should be allowed to force companies to charge less than cost for things (like electricity.)
Us guys? Who the hell are you talking to? You don't know me, you don't know my views. Maybe you should clarify this. That would require you not being a jackass though.
Do the world a favor, kill yourself, you obviously can't contribute anything worthwhile if your post is any sign of who you are. Your contribution to the economy can be not being a burden on it.
...while the two very busy gas stations down the street from me, here in Seattle, only have one person on even during the evening rush hour--just sitting behind the counter, raking in the cash. So, that's where I'm seeing a difference in staffing.
Strange, the main filling station I use in Vancouver has 2 people working always (Except once or twice when I was there). Even around midnight when you don't see hardly any cars.
Not sure about diplomats, but you can enter politics. Each town needs a mayor. No mob bosses since the Hutt faction got cut but maybe in an expansion. You can be a smuggler though. Take a look at the professions list [sony.com]. It's quite interesting.
I can be reasonably sure that the game lacks the infastructure to establish a real mob-feel to it. Diplomats are just mobsters backed by an army.
Then you ARE paying for them at the pump. They just aren't allowed to itemize it explicitly as a seperate thing on the receipt. Unless the gas station is operating in the red, you betcha some of that money eventually ends up paying the pump attendants. That's the only possible way to do it unless their pay is part of some state welfare program.
What I was saying, and I'm sure you gathered this and are just arguing for the sake of, is gas stations are not allowed to increase the cost of gas purely for the gas attendants salaries. They'd go out of business around here even if they did as everyone would just drive to Washington.
The whole mandatory gas attendant thing seems silly to me. And Oregon's not the only place. The first time I saw it was when visiting New Jersey, and I thought it was just part of the oddity of New Jersey. I didn't know it was a common phenomenon.
AFAIK, this may have changed since I last looked, these are the only two where it is illegal to pump your own gas.
Who do you trust? Linux? [yahoo.com]
That's a bad troll. Both on your part and on Yahoo's part. This has already been discussed in length, and while a number of different software packages and operating systems have a higher number of CERT advisories combined than Microsoft, Microsoft is still less secure.
That article says this: Microsoft Products hav fewer CERT advisories than Linux and Open Source combined.
Well.. Open Source: FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Linux, Gnome, Mozilla, KDE, BIND, Sendmail, etc. What does Microsoft have that CERT would report on: IIS, Operating System, and IE.
Not only that, but just counting the number of vulnerabilities reported on CERT is like counting the number of times you have cut yourself and saying that you bleed more than your friend who has cut himself half as much as you, but one time lost half his blood in one cut.
I find it hard to believe that with telekinetic, laser-sword wielding demi-gods running around that anyone would want to be a bartender, mercenary, imperial officer(you apparently can be an officer, just not a storm trooper. Unless you want to spend your online time manning some post on Hoth), etc. Now while this is bad news, mark my words: the Jedi cap would be removed in a month. The first time they saw 10,000 accounts get canceled because players were forced to make at-at repair crew avatars, they would lift that ban so fast heads would spin.
Shit, I would be all over being a bartender. Then owning my own bar. Then employeeing some jedi's. If there were Diplomats and Mob Bosses in these games I would actually play.
Start out earning some cash in a bar, open my own bar, open another, start excercising taxes on people wanting safety in my bars. Smuggling runs...
That's what I'd like to see in an MMORPG. I have one designed that operates like this, but am too busy to start on the code.
I wasn't thinking of the small ones so much--the thing is, even at large, busy Washington stations, there's usually still only one person working. In Oregon, that doesn't seem to be the case--someone to watch the till, and one or two guys out running around pumping gas. Where do you come up with those extra two salaries, if not from your main source of revenue (gas, presumably)?
Most of the large gas stations have at least 2. Sometimes more, because a lot of the large stations have 2+ full service pumps. I don't think that there is actually a large difference in number of employees between same-sized filling stations across Washington and Oregon. Now I'm going to have to find out... damnit.
Do you live in PDX?
I was mostly being flippant, but I don't see how that wouldn't have to be passed along in the price somehow. I mean, really, how else could you pay for the labor? Gas sales must be the majority of sales at gas stations, even the convenience store types... how could they avoid passing the cost along and still somehow stay in business?
Well, the gas attendants are also the ones who run the convenience stores. They are multipurpose. At the smaller stations in Washington they have one attendant working. Same in Oregon, they are just busier. If you are paying for an attendant no matter what (whether they are pumping or not) you may as well have them work harder and pump some gas.
I personally prefer pumping my own gas, as I've had people damage my car putting gas into it (spilling gas on the paint, and not cleaning it) and I just don't trust them.
Well, our stations don't have labor costs of keeping some poor, unschooled schmuck around to pump the gas for you; cost savings passed on to you, the consumer!
God bless Washington--a place where a man can stand tall and pump his own damn gas!
So I'm not really a native to Oregon, so this was really confusing to me. I went and looked it up, and they cannot charge extra for having to pump the gas. It cannot be included in the price of the gas. Seems rather stupid, and I don't know if the actual stations follow it or not but it's rather retarded that people can't pump their own gas.
Of course, in some of the more rural areas of Oregon I wouldn't want them handling gasoline either...
Folks who don't know Seattle don't realize that rail will succeed there for the exact same reason the current most successful use of it is Portland, OR: folks in that corner of the country are very environmentally correct (especially the loggers who improve the forests by removing the large combustable objects!). Not to mention the retro-techno-wiz factor in monorail - lots of fans of that out there too.
Coming from a Portlander... I really hope the Seattle monorail doesn't turn into what the Portland MAX (Light rail) has. In the winter time, through Fareless square (Downtown) it's more of a shelter for bums. In the summer time, it's more of a shelter for bums.
I don't care about bums, that's fine, but I'm not going to commute on a line that has 15 dirty old men asking me for spare change and when I say no have half of them try to fight me. I used to ride the Max all the time to work, but I got fed up with it. Most people that I work with have also given it up that have to take it through downtown (West side residents, as opposed to east side residents)
It is definitely not a pleasant experience.
My guess is that the train tickets will be priced to compete with the commuter air tickets. So $100 or more (but without the wait time and full body cavity search).
So it's going to cost more and I don't get the cavity search? Screw that, I'm sticking with American Air.
Their site mentions that in Japan the average deviation from schedule is 24 seconds. Last night at 1am I saw a train that was over an hour late! (I think it came from Scotland). We have highly advanced display systems just to tell you how late each train or bus is :-). Mind you, the displays at local bus-stops giving estimates of which busses will arrive and when aren't 100% accurate.
That's complete bunk about Japan. I know from my first hand experience it's an average of 26 seconds. Don't trust JRL, they're numbers aren't right.
We may find money and motivation to improve service from Portland to our state capital at Salem (about 45 miles south) but there's not much hope of significant improvements south to the California border any time soon. It would be extremely expensive and the potential traffic is far, far lower than that on the Portland to Seattle route (the faster trains on this route are frequently full).
They could resolve the Portland -> Salem problem but putting things aside from the Capital that people want to see. Who really goes from Portland to Salem for fun or anything other than a "have to"?
The Max is now going to Vancouver, which is going to be handy. I'm really hoping that we can get a train network like Japan. You can take local trains, similar to a subway system for cheap but they are slow (Max) or a limited express for a little bit more (Like Amtrak, but cheaper ($20 from Portland to Seattle)), and a bullet train that would cost quite a bit but cruises at 180mph.
Next up, I'm engineering some flying pigs.