Shortly after I moved into my house, almost five years ago, Bellsouth paid me $400 so that they could lay fiber along the roadside in my front yard.
You should have asked for a drop to be installed that you could hook into, and waive the $400. Pay them routing fees, and be straight on their tier. You just need to negotiate better ^_^
Fact is, SOMETHING in your life is so bad, it would, as you said, make me wake up at night screaming. No, it would probably make you kill your own damn self. You don't have the strength to persevere through what he deals with. Your little life has desperation caused from unemployement? I hope your mother/father/sister/daughter/son dies so you can understand anguish.
If you had on iota of a clue, you'd realize when you are wrong and gracefully back away. It must suck to realize you have no ground to stand on, yet flap your arms to try from falling.
Here's a little piece of advice: Learn and grow old, admit defeat and idiocy in the same apology, and avoid such situations in the past.
I have more respect for gmhowells shit than your brains.
More impotantly I am not just another customer - the firm are small enough to know my exact requirements and advise me accordingly.
If you have recommendations I am open to switching. I don't crash my server, I just need a secure environment where if something goes wrong it can be fixed. My needs are not very demanding either, at least not at the moment.
Being a 'premium provider' doesn't give them the right to charge arbitrary fees (unless their customers don't mind). I'd rather be charged accurately and logically. If expenses have gone up, tack on a monthly charge and tell me why; don't just try to slip it under the door with a mislabeled monthly fee.
That's his thing, I've never had any such nonsense on my account. I'm pretty sure that his sales rep was probably an idiot. Request someone else, say, "No, and I'll cancel my account if you don't charge a reasonable labor fee and the costof RAM. I'll even mail you the RAM."
It sounds like heresay and against mine, and other, experiences.
Best uptime? I'm talking about network uptime. Their data lines do not go down. That and the smaller outfits don't have the level of support, nor dedication that I have found at rackspace. I've gone with smaller outfits, and will never go back. It is well worth an extra $100/mo or so for the support you get there.
from the first comment on your site (that you usually get 2-5 hits per week) you could probably save a ton of money going with a shared host, unless you specifically like having your own machine on a very limited line that you never use.
Ohh, that's just my site. The other domains that are running on there get more traffic. Still only about 1GB/mo but we're not launched yet. When we launch in the next couple of weeks we'll definitely saturate it.
They changed that and having to chmod the files. I all runs a lot more quickly now. Good to know, not only is it tremendously slow and destroys any advantage of using PHP, but it's hard on the system and just a retarded setup.
When I signed up a year ago, I planned on moving after my year, but they changed things so i dont have any gripes My account just expired through them about a month ago, in the beginning of the year the server I was on was still screwed up. February or so... that's when I signed off and never signed back on. We paid for a year, and it was a bad investment.
Rackspace charge for you using 30GB of bandwidth a month. So when you only use 20GB you still get charged the same amount. And you think this is a good deal? Rackspace quoted me a charge (in the UK) of 75 pounds a month to upgrade a server from 512MB of RAM to 1GB. I don't call this a good deal either. I just took over a site with a dedicated box in Rackspace and I am moving the hell out of there fast.
For the service, yes. It has the best uptime, and best customer service, ever. I'll pay extra to know it's in good hands.
If you can't afford Rackspace, don't go with a premium providor.
Fuck powweb. I setup a powweb acount for my family, their PHP was setup through the binary (#!/usr/bin/php at the top of the file) and the server was slow as hell. It also crashed about 3 times in the 6 month period we were using it.
I'd rather kick myself in the nuts than use these guys. They are also a bit known for hosting spammers, and getting blacklisted.
Seriously, I'm curious about finding out. It's never been under a substantial load before. I use Rackspace and I have to say that I'd happily give them my first born child knowing they'd be safe and well cared for.
They are awesome, their service is great, their customer service is great, and their prices are reasonable.
$200 for an entry level server with 30GB/mo. Great web-admin if you want it, and their customer management portal is awesome as well.
Can you quantify that with any real data? Anectodally, I know many people w/ dell's, gateway's, etc... but not that many with home brew. No large or even small companies that I have seen buy their computers from small companies. I think what you are saying could be true, but I wont believe it until some evidence tells me otherwise.
I can back it up to some degree. I built computers (7-10 a day) in a small computer shop for the local small businesses. This was in the bay area, and I can tell you quite a few places that also do this. These are the shops that have a few computer parts out front and if you walk in it doesn't look like you are walking into a real computer store. They make their business by selling 20+ computers a week to the local businesses.
The problem with nuclear power is it will probably take more energy to safely contain the radioactive waste than you'll get out of the plant. In the long-run, building nuclear plants is just a net energy loss.
Please go and provide a reputable source for your assumption. This is complete bunk and pure FUD.
You folks didn't quite understand Adams right. We are the useless third of the Golgafrinchan's population. That's about 6 Billion, guys.
Yes, but what he was talking about was recurssion with the B-arc on a segment of the Golgafrichan population. Besides, they landed on prehistoric earth.
He was merely saying that NASA should send the US 1/3 middle class away. It really has nothing to do with Adams, but read the parent-parent-parent when he originally brought up the B-arc. Is it B Arc or B-Arc? I am drawing a blank.
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(I'm not flaming you, it's just that there are a lot of myths about him - especially the math one. Hell, he was studying Kant and advanced mathematics by age 13)
Oh how I loathe the myths. Years back, I was hanging out with a group of people that I normally wouldn't hang out with. These are the type of people who proudly proclaim their own assumptions and guesses as facts. Spewing myth after myth like it is some taboo, that there really was a rocket car, and some such nonsense. This particular group, well one member in particular, spouted the most inane sentence I have ever heard:
Einstein was so smart that he couldn't remember how to tie his shoes!
After telling her how absolutely ridiculous and stupid that was, we weren't friends anymore. Go figure.
No, not LSD. It's called autism. Albert Einstien was a high-functioning autistic savant. A common feature of the highly autistic mind is thought processes in music, sensations, pictures, written words, etc. Some autistics can also see music, taste sounds, hear pictures and the like... the sensors can become crosswired and overloaded.
I can tell you for certain that it is definitely not autism that triggers this. When I'm solving complex problems, I don't think in any language, or anything that could be understood by someone outside of my mind. For a long time I thought that was normal process.
Sometimes writing it down helps me, but only so that I can see the individual points to any problem.
A lot of people ask bilingual people, "What language do you think in?" The answer for a lot of people is none. Why put something into the constructs and rigidness of a language when you already know exactly what it is that you are going to think?
As for what you wrote, I do not believe you are describing (or understanding of) Einstein's methodologies. He's not speaking purely of words, for math uses no words, in essence. Einstein was very well-spoken, and after he parsed the information out into an easier-understood form he could deliver with with eloquence. He believed children should be able to understand the most advanced concepts of the universe. He knew very well the subtleties and nuances of language, just read any of his papers, quotes, or speeches.
Just because one chooses to solve problems without using the constructs of a language, or numbers, does not mean they are without capacity to do so. It is merely the more efficient approach for that individual. True genius does not come from the mind, but the minds presenter.
No, we couldn't have gotten rid of a third of the world's population for $40B. 2 billion people * 100 pounds = 200 billion pounds of meat. You'd need a $0.20 per pound cost-to-orbit, which NASA can't provide.
He said 'our' people, thereby referring to the US population, since this is about NASA. The useless third would probably go somewhere around 60 million, and 100 pounds/person? Are you insane? Haven't you ever seen the Jerry Springer show.. lets bump that up to 150 (which I still think is conservative) and redo the math.
60,000,000 * 150 = 9,000,000,000 pounds. I'd say that's doable.
An inventory of what? Lutes? Bear-baiting posts? DIY witchburning kits? England maps, English people, English buildings.
Which people, and doing what, and for what purpose? English people, doing English things, to inventory English life.
Ok, its an archive. But an archive of what, and for whom? English people, doing English things, for English people who want to document English life.
Whatever, mod me down as flamebait again. I'm $rtbl'd, and there is no -1, Stupid mod so I wouldn't bother.
Just more time spent trying to decipher slashdots crappy report of the BBC's shitty, uninformative coverage. Have you thought maybe just reading what they write? Maybe... just an idea.
I RTFA, and I don't know what the hell this domesday unit is. Some sort of time-capsule thing?
No.. no you didn't RTFA. Because if you had you would have seen this:
By contrast, the original Domesday Book, an inventory of England compiled in 1086 by Norman monks, is in fine condition in the Public Record Office in Kew, London.
And, also this:
The video discs feature about a million people in the UK. They contain video clips from the BBC and ITV companies as well as 200,000 pictures and tens of thousands of maps.
So, what it is is an inventory of England. People and culture. Please don't say you RTFAd if you didn't, and then don't ask for more information when you say you don't care.
Well, that definition also claims that Open Source means about the same thing as Free Software. I can see Prophet Stallman about to explode...
It's a dictionary and a definition, it's accepted and pretty much comes from opensource.org, so Stallman can go to hell. He didn't invent open source, just the GPL.
As opposed to the common dictionary definition of open source? From now on, I'm going to call any 2 door vehicle "rocks" and expect everyone to know what I mean. If they don't, they are obviously stupid.
. . . the very source you cite, which is also my default source, actually does define Open Source. Go figure. That is pretty damn funny.
I use the ellipsis quite apppropriately in my header, but perhaps less so in the body. A hyphen may be more appropriate in these instances, although it implies a bit more emphasis than I intend, aiming for mere dramatic pause as an orator might. I can see where that might prove annoying in a world that seems to have abandoned the comma.
Header yes, and spoken aloud your post would definitely yield the desired result. Definitely right about the comma.
But then I'm also one of those weird people who thinks that Python's use of whitespace is the proper way to go about things. Well, then you and Guido can go to hell;-)
First lie. You said they can't charge more for it. Whether or not they can itemize it on the bill is a second issue you only took up after someone else pointed out that that's all the law really entails.
They cannot charge more, for the gas, as itemized. That's not a lie, that's clarification. Go find a dictionary.
Second lie. That was someone else, not me.
Sort of correct, your statements consisted of me believing they were unpaid or magic money, or saying that stations outside of the outer-state regions are operating differently. No statement I made reflected any view like that. Those statements can pretty much be surmised as you saying I have no clue about economics. You and BitGeek were pretty much spouting the same innane bullshit.
You apparently attribute other people's posts to me, so speak for yourself.
No, but yours and BitGeeks were pretty much the same posts. Completely stupid, pointless, and attempting to argue a point that doesn't even exist. Here's an excercise: List your argument against what I've said, in a nice bullet list.
Everything from what I have said iterates down, you claimed I changed my argument which is complete bunk. There was no change.
As I said to you previously, you seem somehow motivated to argue with me. Well, there is no argument here. I don't know 100% sure if they are not allowed to itemize the station attendants into the price per galon, but from what I have looked into it seems that is the case. I stand by that. I may be wrong. So what? You aren't even arguing that. Hell, you haven't even argued. You have just insulted me (in rather irrelevant manners) and trying to claim I lie and am losing an argument that doesn't exist.
The only argument is this: You are obviously pissed off at me for something, and I have no idea why. Maybe you don't like my posts, maybe you just don't like me. I really don't care. I won't care. If you don't like me, oh well, join the crowd. It's called personal preference. What I don't understand is why you devote time towards attempting to argue a non-existent point (It really doesn't exist, you got into this deep long thread attempting to bash me, over a simple sentance: I went and looked it up, and they cannot charge extra for having to pump the gas. It cannot be included in the price of the gas.
Everything that you have devoted into this attempt to prove me wrong goes into that one single sentence. Don't you feel a bit silly and absurd at carrying it this far?
Your original statement is much more absurd than mine by far:
Then you ARE paying for them at the pump. They just aren't allowed to itemize it explicitly as a seperate thing on the receipt. Unless the gas station is operating in the red, you betcha some of that money eventually ends up paying the pump attendants. That's the only possible way to do it unless their pay is part of some state welfare program.
That's pretty much what I said above. They aren't allowed to itemize it explicitely as a seperate thing on the receipt. In other words, "It cannot be included in the price of the gas."
My next post to you, stated you were just trying to pick a fight. Pretty accurate, wouldn't you say? Again, it reiterates what I was saying. And what you said, but without the "I'm trying to pick a fight with you" smart ass remark.
Next down in our little thread, you respond to a comment I wrote to BitGeek. Saying that Oregon Law went through all Oregon, with more insulting remarks towards me. Fine, insult me. Now, I'm not sure what part of what I said actually caused you to get involved with that fine literary gem you posted. It was a pointless post anyway, as the rest of Oregon is very rural. Filling stations only need one, at most two in the "rush", attendant which any station would need anyway.
The next threads are you just insulting me, and not saying anything. More of the wonderful "I obviously don't understand economics" posts.
Up until your direct insult against me, I was mostly friendly. Just requesting that you stay out of a thread that you shouldn't participate in. It wasn't until you have proved yourself to be without logic and reason (otherwise you wouldn't have been responding arguing something that wasn't even there) that I called you a dumbass. I'll stand by that still, as it still seems to be the case. I don't hold grudges, you may be smart. I hope so, because the world doesn't need more stupid people. From my experiences with you, it shows the opposite.
If you have an issue with me, take it up with me. If you don't want to talk to me, than fine, stop trying to argue with me. If you don't like me, put me on your foes list, set me to -6 and pretend I don't exist. It's not that hard.
In all fairness, and seriousness, lets just get whatever grudge you have against me out so you can get it off your chest and not get into long threads talking about things that don't even matter. If you don't want to, then please, just set me as a foe, and ignore me.
This long winded post has been brought to you by the unfathomable build times of QT on a Pentium II-400Mhz CPU. That failed. Twice.
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Shortly after I moved into my house, almost five years ago, Bellsouth paid me $400 so that they could lay fiber along the roadside in my front yard.
You should have asked for a drop to be installed that you could hook into, and waive the $400. Pay them routing fees, and be straight on their tier. You just need to negotiate better ^_^
Fact is, SOMETHING in your life is so bad, it would, as you said, make me wake up at night screaming.
No, it would probably make you kill your own damn self. You don't have the strength to persevere through what he deals with. Your little life has desperation caused from unemployement? I hope your mother/father/sister/daughter/son dies so you can understand anguish.
If you had on iota of a clue, you'd realize when you are wrong and gracefully back away. It must suck to realize you have no ground to stand on, yet flap your arms to try from falling.
Here's a little piece of advice: Learn and grow old, admit defeat and idiocy in the same apology, and avoid such situations in the past.
I have more respect for gmhowells shit than your brains.
More impotantly I am not just another customer - the firm are small enough to know my exact requirements and advise me accordingly.
If you have recommendations I am open to switching. I don't crash my server, I just need a secure environment where if something goes wrong it can be fixed. My needs are not very demanding either, at least not at the moment.
Being a 'premium provider' doesn't give them the right to charge arbitrary fees (unless their customers don't mind). I'd rather be charged accurately and logically. If expenses have gone up, tack on a monthly charge and tell me why; don't just try to slip it under the door with a mislabeled monthly fee.
That's his thing, I've never had any such nonsense on my account. I'm pretty sure that his sales rep was probably an idiot. Request someone else, say, "No, and I'll cancel my account if you don't charge a reasonable labor fee and the costof RAM. I'll even mail you the RAM."
It sounds like heresay and against mine, and other, experiences.
How about $249/month for a more powerful server with 300 GB/month?
- de dicated.jsp [assortedinternet.com]
http://www.assortedinternet.com/hosting/economy
Seems like a good deal, but I wouldn't run a server on RedHat. I prefer the BSD option. My contract at rackspace is up in a few months, so maybe.
You have my email, let me know if BSD is an option.
Best uptime?
I'm talking about network uptime. Their data lines do not go down. That and the smaller outfits don't have the level of support, nor dedication that I have found at rackspace. I've gone with smaller outfits, and will never go back. It is well worth an extra $100/mo or so for the support you get there.
from the first comment on your site (that you usually get 2-5 hits per week) you could probably save a ton of money going with a shared host, unless you specifically like having your own machine on a very limited line that you never use.
Ohh, that's just my site. The other domains that are running on there get more traffic. Still only about 1GB/mo but we're not launched yet. When we launch in the next couple of weeks we'll definitely saturate it.
They changed that and having to chmod the files. I all runs a lot more quickly now.
Good to know, not only is it tremendously slow and destroys any advantage of using PHP, but it's hard on the system and just a retarded setup.
When I signed up a year ago, I planned on moving after my year, but they changed things so i dont have any gripes
My account just expired through them about a month ago, in the beginning of the year the server I was on was still screwed up. February or so... that's when I signed off and never signed back on. We paid for a year, and it was a bad investment.
Rackspace charge for you using 30GB of bandwidth a month. So when you only use 20GB you still get charged the same amount. And you think this is a good deal?
Rackspace quoted me a charge (in the UK) of 75 pounds a month to upgrade a server from 512MB of RAM to 1GB. I don't call this a good deal either.
I just took over a site with a dedicated box in Rackspace and I am moving the hell out of there fast.
For the service, yes. It has the best uptime, and best customer service, ever. I'll pay extra to know it's in good hands.
If you can't afford Rackspace, don't go with a premium providor.
Fuck powweb. I setup a powweb acount for my family, their PHP was setup through the binary (#!/usr/bin/php at the top of the file) and the server was slow as hell. It also crashed about 3 times in the 6 month period we were using it.
I'd rather kick myself in the nuts than use these guys. They are also a bit known for hosting spammers, and getting blacklisted.
Amen. I am such a bitch for Rackspace.
I will gladly give them free advertisement without a doubt in my mind. If I wore t-shirts I would definitely wear the shirt they send out.
Instead I just paint their logo on my naked chest and run around downtown.
Well, hey, I could use the load test:
xerithane.nerdfarm.org
Do your worst!
Seriously, I'm curious about finding out. It's never been under a substantial load before. I use Rackspace and I have to say that I'd happily give them my first born child knowing they'd be safe and well cared for.
They are awesome, their service is great, their customer service is great, and their prices are reasonable.
$200 for an entry level server with 30GB/mo. Great web-admin if you want it, and their customer management portal is awesome as well.
They kick ass.
Can you quantify that with any real data? Anectodally, I know many people w/ dell's, gateway's, etc... but not that many with home brew. No large or even small companies that I have seen buy their computers from small companies. I think what you are saying could be true, but I wont believe it until some evidence tells me otherwise.
I can back it up to some degree. I built computers (7-10 a day) in a small computer shop for the local small businesses. This was in the bay area, and I can tell you quite a few places that also do this. These are the shops that have a few computer parts out front and if you walk in it doesn't look like you are walking into a real computer store. They make their business by selling 20+ computers a week to the local businesses.
The problem with nuclear power is it will probably take more energy to safely contain the radioactive waste than you'll get out of the plant. In the long-run, building nuclear plants is just a net energy loss.
Please go and provide a reputable source for your assumption. This is complete bunk and pure FUD.
So we'd merely be the pentultimately useless 2/9 of the Golgrafrinchan population, then. Still doesn't say much for us.
No, but at least we have digital watches.
You folks didn't quite understand Adams right. We are the useless third of the Golgafrinchan's population. That's about 6 Billion, guys.
Yes, but what he was talking about was recurssion with the B-arc on a segment of the Golgafrichan population. Besides, they landed on prehistoric earth.
He was merely saying that NASA should send the US 1/3 middle class away. It really has nothing to do with Adams, but read the parent-parent-parent when he originally brought up the B-arc. Is it B Arc or B-Arc? I am drawing a blank.
Oh how I loathe the myths. Years back, I was hanging out with a group of people that I normally wouldn't hang out with. These are the type of people who proudly proclaim their own assumptions and guesses as facts. Spewing myth after myth like it is some taboo, that there really was a rocket car, and some such nonsense. This particular group, well one member in particular, spouted the most inane sentence I have ever heard:
After telling her how absolutely ridiculous and stupid that was, we weren't friends anymore. Go figure.
No, not LSD. It's called autism. Albert Einstien was a high-functioning autistic savant. A common feature of the highly autistic mind is thought processes in music, sensations, pictures, written words, etc. Some autistics can also see music, taste sounds, hear pictures and the like... the sensors can become crosswired and overloaded.
I can tell you for certain that it is definitely not autism that triggers this. When I'm solving complex problems, I don't think in any language, or anything that could be understood by someone outside of my mind. For a long time I thought that was normal process.
Sometimes writing it down helps me, but only so that I can see the individual points to any problem.
A lot of people ask bilingual people, "What language do you think in?" The answer for a lot of people is none. Why put something into the constructs and rigidness of a language when you already know exactly what it is that you are going to think?
As for what you wrote, I do not believe you are describing (or understanding of) Einstein's methodologies. He's not speaking purely of words, for math uses no words, in essence. Einstein was very well-spoken, and after he parsed the information out into an easier-understood form he could deliver with with eloquence. He believed children should be able to understand the most advanced concepts of the universe. He knew very well the subtleties and nuances of language, just read any of his papers, quotes, or speeches.
Just because one chooses to solve problems without using the constructs of a language, or numbers, does not mean they are without capacity to do so. It is merely the more efficient approach for that individual. True genius does not come from the mind, but the minds presenter.
No, we couldn't have gotten rid of a third of the world's population for $40B. 2 billion people * 100 pounds = 200 billion pounds of meat. You'd need a $0.20 per pound cost-to-orbit, which NASA can't provide.
He said 'our' people, thereby referring to the US population, since this is about NASA. The useless third would probably go somewhere around 60 million, and 100 pounds/person? Are you insane? Haven't you ever seen the Jerry Springer show.. lets bump that up to 150 (which I still think is conservative) and redo the math.
60,000,000 * 150 = 9,000,000,000 pounds. I'd say that's doable.
An inventory of what? Lutes? Bear-baiting posts? DIY witchburning kits?
England maps, English people, English buildings.
Which people, and doing what, and for what purpose?
English people, doing English things, to inventory English life.
Ok, its an archive. But an archive of what, and for whom?
English people, doing English things, for English people who want to document English life.
Whatever, mod me down as flamebait again.
I'm $rtbl'd, and there is no -1, Stupid mod so I wouldn't bother.
Just more time spent trying to decipher slashdots crappy report of the BBC's shitty, uninformative coverage.
Have you thought maybe just reading what they write? Maybe... just an idea.
No.. no you didn't RTFA. Because if you had you would have seen this:
And, also this:
So, what it is is an inventory of England. People and culture. Please don't say you RTFAd if you didn't, and then don't ask for more information when you say you don't care.
Well, that definition also claims that Open Source means about the same thing as Free Software. I can see Prophet Stallman about to explode...
It's a dictionary and a definition, it's accepted and pretty much comes from opensource.org, so Stallman can go to hell. He didn't invent open source, just the GPL.
As opposed to the common dictionary definition of open source? From now on, I'm going to call any 2 door vehicle "rocks" and expect everyone to know what I mean. If they don't, they are obviously stupid.
. . . the very source you cite, which is also my default source, actually does define Open Source. Go figure.
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That is pretty damn funny.
I use the ellipsis quite apppropriately in my header, but perhaps less so in the body. A hyphen may be more appropriate in these instances, although it implies a bit more emphasis than I intend, aiming for mere dramatic pause as an orator might. I can see where that might prove annoying in a world that seems to have abandoned the comma.
Header yes, and spoken aloud your post would definitely yield the desired result. Definitely right about the comma.
But then I'm also one of those weird people who thinks that Python's use of whitespace is the proper way to go about things.
Well, then you and Guido can go to hell
They cannot charge more, for the gas, as itemized. That's not a lie, that's clarification. Go find a dictionary.
Second lie. That was someone else, not me.
Sort of correct, your statements consisted of me believing they were unpaid or magic money, or saying that stations outside of the outer-state regions are operating differently. No statement I made reflected any view like that. Those statements can pretty much be surmised as you saying I have no clue about economics. You and BitGeek were pretty much spouting the same innane bullshit.
You apparently attribute other people's posts to me, so speak for yourself.
No, but yours and BitGeeks were pretty much the same posts. Completely stupid, pointless, and attempting to argue a point that doesn't even exist. Here's an excercise: List your argument against what I've said, in a nice bullet list.
Everything from what I have said iterates down, you claimed I changed my argument which is complete bunk. There was no change.
As I said to you previously, you seem somehow motivated to argue with me. Well, there is no argument here. I don't know 100% sure if they are not allowed to itemize the station attendants into the price per galon, but from what I have looked into it seems that is the case. I stand by that. I may be wrong. So what? You aren't even arguing that. Hell, you haven't even argued. You have just insulted me (in rather irrelevant manners) and trying to claim I lie and am losing an argument that doesn't exist.
The only argument is this: You are obviously pissed off at me for something, and I have no idea why. Maybe you don't like my posts, maybe you just don't like me. I really don't care. I won't care. If you don't like me, oh well, join the crowd. It's called personal preference. What I don't understand is why you devote time towards attempting to argue a non-existent point (It really doesn't exist, you got into this deep long thread attempting to bash me, over a simple sentance: I went and looked it up, and they cannot charge extra for having to pump the gas. It cannot be included in the price of the gas.
Everything that you have devoted into this attempt to prove me wrong goes into that one single sentence. Don't you feel a bit silly and absurd at carrying it this far?
Your original statement is much more absurd than mine by far:
That's pretty much what I said above. They aren't allowed to itemize it explicitely as a seperate thing on the receipt. In other words, "It cannot be included in the price of the gas."
My next post to you, stated you were just trying to pick a fight. Pretty accurate, wouldn't you say? Again, it reiterates what I was saying. And what you said, but without the "I'm trying to pick a fight with you" smart ass remark.
Next down in our little thread, you respond to a comment I wrote to BitGeek. Saying that Oregon Law went through all Oregon, with more insulting remarks towards me. Fine, insult me. Now, I'm not sure what part of what I said actually caused you to get involved with that fine literary gem you posted. It was a pointless post anyway, as the rest of Oregon is very rural. Filling stations only need one, at most two in the "rush", attendant which any station would need anyway.
The next threads are you just insulting me, and not saying anything. More of the wonderful "I obviously don't understand economics" posts.
Up until your direct insult against me, I was mostly friendly. Just requesting that you stay out of a thread that you shouldn't participate in.
It wasn't until you have proved yourself to be without logic and reason (otherwise you wouldn't have been responding arguing something that wasn't even there) that I called you a dumbass. I'll stand by that still, as it still seems to be the case. I don't hold grudges, you may be smart. I hope so, because the world doesn't need more stupid people. From my experiences with you, it shows the opposite.
If you have an issue with me, take it up with me. If you don't want to talk to me, than fine, stop trying to argue with me. If you don't like me, put me on your foes list, set me to -6 and pretend I don't exist. It's not that hard.
In all fairness, and seriousness, lets just get whatever grudge you have against me out so you can get it off your chest and not get into long threads talking about things that don't even matter. If you don't want to, then please, just set me as a foe, and ignore me.
This long winded post has been brought to you by the unfathomable build times of QT on a Pentium II-400Mhz CPU. That failed. Twice.