The Valdez hit a reef, in open waters. Here's what actually happened, to prevent more FUD and stupid dumbass lies: "Although the weather that night was conducive to traveling, some small icebergs (growlers) had drifted into the sound from the Columbia Glacier. Captain Hazelwood radioed to the Coast Guard station that he would be changing course in order to avoid the growlers. Growlers are chunks of ice from glaciers which make a growling sound when knocked against the ship's hull. The captain received permission to move into the northbound lane. Before retiring to his cabin, Captain Hazelwood instructed his third mate Gregory Cousins to steer the vessel back into the southbound lane once it passed Busby Island. Although Cousins did give the instructions to the helmsman to steer the vessel to the right, the vessel was not turning sharply enough and at 12:04 a.m. the vessel hit Bligh Reef. It is not known whether Cousins gave the orders too late, the helmsman did not follow instructions properly, or if something was wrong with the steering system of the vessel" [source]
And also, the port never got rid of any spill experts. I gotta say, you guys are pretty funny. A simple google search to find the legal documents would save you guys so much time looking stupid.
How many people do you know personally are part of the oil companies executive board? Seems strange to say that type of things about them if you odn't know them.
If you actually looked at the history of the oil companies, they actually do invest into alternate power sources. If you have ever toured a facility you will see that it is in fact one of the cleanest, most sanitary places as of late -- to great expense to the oil company. Things have changed a lot in the last couple decades. The actual procurement of oil has become exceptionally environmentally friendly. Yes, spills are in fact a risk, but everything is a risk. Until we get some better power, oil is the way to do it -- Enron is a power company by the way. I'm not aware of them owning any oil rigs.
I really wish that people would start to look at what's going on now. Go look at the Alaskan drill zones, it may do you some good.
But, regardless of all of this, someone saying "another drunken captain" is spreading FUD. If you hate Microsoft FUD, hate this stuff too. Hypocracy is not pretty.
Riiiiiight. Do you have any proof to go with that paranoia?
And yes, Microsoft could do that. Hell, I could do that. You could do that. Anybody can kill people. That's why we have laws. If you think that Exxon-Mobil can go out and just cleanly kill "thousands" of people without their being an inquiry into it that would raise a lot of public scrutiny, then you are absolutely daft.
Well, wrong - our economy wouldn't collapse if our pipes from foreign countries went away. We do have plenty stock piled and also have a lot coming in from the states. It's cheaper over there, that's why we get the majority of what we use from the mid-east.
I'm not pro-oil by the way. I just think if somebody wants to take a pot shot at an oil company they should at least be accurate. Slashdot is notorious for doing things like this. Something against big bad company X, make up some FUD about big bad company X. It's just stupid, counter productive, and ultimately pointless. That's my point. If you want to bash the oil companies, go right ahead but at least be correct about it.
I'm sorry - but where did I go off about how wonderful the oil companies are? I'm saying they are under scrutiny, which I think is a good thing. If Microsoft had the same number of people watching them as the oil industry does, I'm sure a lot of things would be done differently (and better)
Well, considering Hazelwood wasn't at the helm I suppose it'd be a first if it happened. Why is it that environmentalists looking for alternate power sources have to bash the oil companies?
I swear, it's as bad as the open source zealots going after microsoft. Why can't people just say, "Hey - alternate power cool!" instead of bashing the oil companies? Because, let me tell you, the oil companies are a lot better than Microsoft as far as their antics. Microsoft doesn't have a bunch of hippies surrounding every office building 24/7 waiting to bust them for hurting some fuzzy animal.
I think you would be very hard pressed to find a murder conviction go anywhere near the 5 year mark. 7 maybe, on a Murder 3 count but today that would be hard pressed. Manslaughter on the other hand...
We're not taking his life away either, he's being punished for his actions. He is still perfectly free to live and breath, just inside bars. His choice, he made the choice to do the crime so I have no pity for him when he is getting raped by a bald guy named Bubba while security guards cheer in the background.
I don't know what Draeker made for the rest of the year, but 46 thousand is not a lot of money, especially for the CEO of a software house. His wife was paid 18 thousand, which is less than my wife makes at Wal-Mart as a cashier.
$46K for a two week period ends up at a salary of $1,196,000. Not many CEO's make that much.
Yeah.. I'd actually get to moderate again and won't get chastized for modding up an actual insightful comment an editor had a problem with.
Eh, fuck it, not worth it anyway. The best thing that could happen to Slashdot is somebody starts running it like an actual business organization (even NPO's have a board)
As for your "lost freedoms" -- they are bunk. Yes, the DMCA is unconstitutional in it's very foundation -- but no one has been persecuted from it yet. Keep that in mind.
As for your assessment of international politics of America -- again, it's bunk. It's called Allies and Partners. The whole world does it, everyone has partners and enemies. Get over it.
Fidel is also a very bad example. What happened to Cuba was Fidel's own fault. I have no qualms against them. As for Bin Laden hating America, that has nothing to do with the US using him against Russia. It's against the American way of life and mentality. So be it, that's called racism. If you think America is so restrictive, do me a favor and go live in China or North Korea and you may start to appreciate what you can find in America. Every government is corrupt. It's the lesser of evils and being on top. All through the world unjust and immoral things happen . Go walk through the downtown of a 3rd world country and tell me that it's ok -- america should just stop helping them.
I'm tired of biased Americans too -- but what's worse is Americans who think that the rest of the world would be so much better off without american involvement. Do yourself a favor and realize every government plays a part in the outcome of the world. Pointing the finger at America doesn't solve anything. Blame everyone -- because that's whose fault it is.
People in the USA are hypocrites,, I mean the USA has done stuff in its past that was as bad as China, remember slavery? Remember the Cival war? All the stuff that happened in the USA,
Uh, yeah. Slavery.. that makes the american populace hypocrites? Because they ended slavery 2 centuries ago?
Americans don't have "slightly more" freedoms than China. Americans have a lot more freedoms than China. I can go to downtown New York and scream at the top of my lungs that the terrorists were right - but you know what? It's perfectly legal for me to do so. I can look at porn on the internet sitting in downtown san francisco -- it's perfectly legal.
Your problem is you are seeing a rivalry and comparison. Two different nations are apples and oranges. Let China be, I agree. The people make the country -- if the people accept western culture and bring it into their life there is nothing the government can do to stop it. 1.3 billion people versus a few in the government doesn't match up.
And America acts like the police nation so America is secured as a super power and selects it's allies. America doesn't try to influence other cultures. America doesn't force our culture upon them. American culture spreads by it's very nature -- somewhat similar to open source. It's an open culture, full of ideals and illusions. America doesn't hold a gun to anyones head and demands they play Britney Spears at the local cyber cafe.
Other countries find the american culture intruiging and try to take the best of it, while omitting the worst. Unfortunately, you can't -- then they hate america for it. I'll stick with European cultures -- they have a lot figured out, and are actually happy people. More than I can say for most americans.
How many programmers/SAs/DBAs or what have you are unemployed and having a hard time finding a job. While the MBAs are taking a "vacation" till the market picks up.
You wonder why they always made more money. Kept more money. Business is the art of making money off other peoples ineptness. They did a great job doing that. On a side note, I need an MBA. I'm ok with that. Like you said, a necessary component into any company.
Someone in VA Linux has responsibility for Slashdot, knows exactly how much it costs etc. Rob obviously doesn't - but that's not what they pay him to do! If this were true, Rob and Hemos would not have any say as to how slashdot made money. Rob and Hemos said they thought up the subscription model. They came up with it from vague numbers and viewing stats.
If someone in VA is responsible for Slashdot's business -- please someone fire them.
You got it right -- I understood the original post. Somewhat to my own chagrin..:)
Here's the problem with Slashdot: There is no one in charge. This is why the money is an issue. VA/OSDN should be raking it in with slashdot -- but since no one is in charge it's left to people to come up with business ideas who have no business in business. Sorry Taco/Hemos -- your business skills suck. Save yourself some money and hire an MBA.
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They aren't mutually exclusive. You don't need to not have fun in order to make money. I would prefer to get a solid slashdot and authors that care about the community.
Not worrying about business and money helps that.
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Rob, no. Hemos said in there that they had no idea and he would have to make a large spreadsheet.
Shows that they (as an organization) have no clue what's going on.
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Absolutely agreed.
The fact that they don't actually have a spreadsheet that they can reference to see revenue and costs is just silly. Yes, it ends in a.org -- but if it employs people (and/. does) you need to get your heads out of your ass and make a fucking business plan.
I'll tell you how to avoid the entire/. ad/subscription mess - run it like a business instead of your after school project. Write a business plan. Do cost projects/analysis -- find out what websites make money. Hell, open up a merchandise store or do some serious bundling with thinkgeek. (More than what is there now)
With how much readership (especially the types of readers) slashdot gets, it's really pathetic that there has not been a sound path to profitability. They have an entire web community rallying around them and they can't even figure out how much money it costs to run slashdot.
And on a side note: I refuse to subscribe until I am not $rtbl'd and have an apology for receiving that treatment.
Could he write code? I never said he couldn't. If you look at his transcripts from school (and the public knowledge) he wasn't doing all that great.
When I was in college I rarely did any homework yet in all my CS classes I never dropped below a B. And the classes I got B's where those I rarely went to or didn't do the homework because it was just utterly mundane.
Which book? Feel free to provide a reference. Chances are I have read it. Anybody can code, few can code great. Bill Gates, for everything I have read and seen, can code.
get off your cynical ass and read a book. And also, it's much easier to stay on my ass and read, thanks.
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Uh, actually that wasn't the case.
The Valdez hit a reef, in open waters.
Here's what actually happened, to prevent more FUD and stupid dumbass lies:
"Although the weather that night was conducive to traveling, some small icebergs (growlers) had drifted into the sound from the Columbia Glacier. Captain Hazelwood radioed to the Coast Guard station that he would be changing course in order to avoid the growlers. Growlers are chunks of ice from glaciers which make a growling sound when knocked against the ship's hull. The captain received permission to move into the northbound lane. Before retiring to his cabin, Captain Hazelwood instructed his third mate Gregory Cousins to steer the vessel back into the southbound lane once it passed Busby Island. Although Cousins did give the instructions to the helmsman to steer the vessel to the right, the vessel was not turning sharply enough and at 12:04 a.m. the vessel hit Bligh Reef. It is not known whether Cousins gave the orders too late, the helmsman did not follow instructions properly, or if something was wrong with the steering system of the vessel" [source]
And also, the port never got rid of any spill experts. I gotta say, you guys are pretty funny. A simple google search to find the legal documents would save you guys so much time looking stupid.
How many people do you know personally are part of the oil companies executive board? Seems strange to say that type of things about them if you odn't know them.
If you actually looked at the history of the oil companies, they actually do invest into alternate power sources. If you have ever toured a facility you will see that it is in fact one of the cleanest, most sanitary places as of late -- to great expense to the oil company. Things have changed a lot in the last couple decades. The actual procurement of oil has become exceptionally environmentally friendly. Yes, spills are in fact a risk, but everything is a risk. Until we get some better power, oil is the way to do it -- Enron is a power company by the way. I'm not aware of them owning any oil rigs.
I really wish that people would start to look at what's going on now. Go look at the Alaskan drill zones, it may do you some good.
But, regardless of all of this, someone saying "another drunken captain" is spreading FUD. If you hate Microsoft FUD, hate this stuff too. Hypocracy is not pretty.
Riiiiiight. Do you have any proof to go with that paranoia?
And yes, Microsoft could do that. Hell, I could do that. You could do that. Anybody can kill people. That's why we have laws. If you think that Exxon-Mobil can go out and just cleanly kill "thousands" of people without their being an inquiry into it that would raise a lot of public scrutiny, then you are absolutely daft.
Well, wrong - our economy wouldn't collapse if our pipes from foreign countries went away. We do have plenty stock piled and also have a lot coming in from the states. It's cheaper over there, that's why we get the majority of what we use from the mid-east.
I'm not pro-oil by the way. I just think if somebody wants to take a pot shot at an oil company they should at least be accurate. Slashdot is notorious for doing things like this. Something against big bad company X, make up some FUD about big bad company X. It's just stupid, counter productive, and ultimately pointless. That's my point. If you want to bash the oil companies, go right ahead but at least be correct about it.
I'm sorry - but where did I go off about how wonderful the oil companies are? I'm saying they are under scrutiny, which I think is a good thing. If Microsoft had the same number of people watching them as the oil industry does, I'm sure a lot of things would be done differently (and better)
I'm not pro-oil any more than I am pro-Microsoft. But for every Linux story, do we need to see "Microsoft sucks!"?
Well, considering Hazelwood wasn't at the helm I suppose it'd be a first if it happened. Why is it that environmentalists looking for alternate power sources have to bash the oil companies?
I swear, it's as bad as the open source zealots going after microsoft. Why can't people just say, "Hey - alternate power cool!" instead of bashing the oil companies? Because, let me tell you, the oil companies are a lot better than Microsoft as far as their antics. Microsoft doesn't have a bunch of hippies surrounding every office building 24/7 waiting to bust them for hurting some fuzzy animal.
Uh, please go read up a little bit more.
I think you would be very hard pressed to find a murder conviction go anywhere near the 5 year mark. 7 maybe, on a Murder 3 count but today that would be hard pressed. Manslaughter on the other hand...
We're not taking his life away either, he's being punished for his actions. He is still perfectly free to live and breath, just inside bars. His choice, he made the choice to do the crime so I have no pity for him when he is getting raped by a bald guy named Bubba while security guards cheer in the background.
Well, shit then, I'm going to start calling my car Craftsman/Chevrolet then.
You can run a linux system without GNU tools. That's why GNU/Linux is irritating. GNU/Perl/X11/Linux is just as fitting.
I suppose it helps when I read July as July instead of January. I wonder if that's a sign I should sleep more...
A CEO should definitely (IMO) get paid last. Just like the captain goes down with the ship.. take care of the employees first.
I don't know what Draeker made for the rest of the year, but 46 thousand is not a lot of money, especially for the CEO of a software house. His wife was paid 18 thousand, which is less than my wife makes at Wal-Mart as a cashier.
$46K for a two week period ends up at a salary of $1,196,000. Not many CEO's make that much.
Yeah.. I'd actually get to moderate again and won't get chastized for modding up an actual insightful comment an editor had a problem with.
Eh, fuck it, not worth it anyway. The best thing that could happen to Slashdot is somebody starts running it like an actual business organization (even NPO's have a board)
As for your "lost freedoms" -- they are bunk. Yes, the DMCA is unconstitutional in it's very foundation -- but no one has been persecuted from it yet. Keep that in mind.
As for your assessment of international politics of America -- again, it's bunk. It's called Allies and Partners. The whole world does it, everyone has partners and enemies. Get over it.
Fidel is also a very bad example. What happened to Cuba was Fidel's own fault. I have no qualms against them. As for Bin Laden hating America, that has nothing to do with the US using him against Russia. It's against the American way of life and mentality. So be it, that's called racism. If you think America is so restrictive, do me a favor and go live in China or North Korea and you may start to appreciate what you can find in America. Every government is corrupt. It's the lesser of evils and being on top. All through the world unjust and immoral things happen . Go walk through the downtown of a 3rd world country and tell me that it's ok -- america should just stop helping them.
I'm tired of biased Americans too -- but what's worse is Americans who think that the rest of the world would be so much better off without american involvement. Do yourself a favor and realize every government plays a part in the outcome of the world. Pointing the finger at America doesn't solve anything. Blame everyone -- because that's whose fault it is.
People in the USA are hypocrites,, I mean the USA has done stuff in its past that was as bad as China, remember slavery? Remember the Cival war? All the stuff that happened in the USA,
Uh, yeah. Slavery.. that makes the american populace hypocrites? Because they ended slavery 2 centuries ago?
Americans don't have "slightly more" freedoms than China. Americans have a lot more freedoms than China. I can go to downtown New York and scream at the top of my lungs that the terrorists were right - but you know what? It's perfectly legal for me to do so. I can look at porn on the internet sitting in downtown san francisco -- it's perfectly legal.
Your problem is you are seeing a rivalry and comparison. Two different nations are apples and oranges. Let China be, I agree. The people make the country -- if the people accept western culture and bring it into their life there is nothing the government can do to stop it. 1.3 billion people versus a few in the government doesn't match up.
And America acts like the police nation so America is secured as a super power and selects it's allies. America doesn't try to influence other cultures. America doesn't force our culture upon them. American culture spreads by it's very nature -- somewhat similar to open source. It's an open culture, full of ideals and illusions. America doesn't hold a gun to anyones head and demands they play Britney Spears at the local cyber cafe.
Other countries find the american culture intruiging and try to take the best of it, while omitting the worst. Unfortunately, you can't -- then they hate america for it. I'll stick with European cultures -- they have a lot figured out, and are actually happy people. More than I can say for most americans.
Absolutely -- here's proof MBAs won.
How many programmers/SAs/DBAs or what have you are unemployed and having a hard time finding a job. While the MBAs are taking a "vacation" till the market picks up.
You wonder why they always made more money. Kept more money. Business is the art of making money off other peoples ineptness. They did a great job doing that. On a side note, I need an MBA. I'm ok with that. Like you said, a necessary component into any company.
Someone in VA Linux has responsibility for Slashdot, knows exactly how much it costs etc. Rob obviously doesn't - but that's not what they pay him to do!
If this were true, Rob and Hemos would not have any say as to how slashdot made money. Rob and Hemos said they thought up the subscription model. They came up with it from vague numbers and viewing stats.
If someone in VA is responsible for Slashdot's business -- please someone fire them.
You got it right -- I understood the original post. Somewhat to my own chagrin.. :)
Here's the problem with Slashdot: There is no one in charge. This is why the money is an issue. VA/OSDN should be raking it in with slashdot -- but since no one is in charge it's left to people to come up with business ideas who have no business in business. Sorry Taco/Hemos -- your business skills suck. Save yourself some money and hire an MBA.
They aren't mutually exclusive. You don't need to not have fun in order to make money. I would prefer to get a solid slashdot and authors that care about the community.
Not worrying about business and money helps that.
Rob, no. Hemos said in there that they had no idea and he would have to make a large spreadsheet.
Shows that they (as an organization) have no clue what's going on.
Absolutely agreed.
.org -- but if it employs people (and /. does) you need to get your heads out of your ass and make a fucking business plan.
/. ad/subscription mess - run it like a business instead of your after school project. Write a business plan. Do cost projects/analysis -- find out what websites make money. Hell, open up a merchandise store or do some serious bundling with thinkgeek. (More than what is there now)
The fact that they don't actually have a spreadsheet that they can reference to see revenue and costs is just silly. Yes, it ends in a
I'll tell you how to avoid the entire
With how much readership (especially the types of readers) slashdot gets, it's really pathetic that there has not been a sound path to profitability. They have an entire web community rallying around them and they can't even figure out how much money it costs to run slashdot.
And on a side note:
I refuse to subscribe until I am not $rtbl'd and have an apology for receiving that treatment.
Just don't try to sell us beer.
I'm sure you meant to append "without checking ID" at the end of that.
I know that feeling, I'm only bilingual but the sentiment remains. (And that's why I can say this joke in good humor)
What do you call someone who speaks three languages?
A trilingual!
What do you call someone who speaks two languages?
A bilingual!
What do you call someone who speaks one language?
American!
The only american stereotype I fill is my habit of leaving unnecessary lights on.
Could he write code? I never said he couldn't. If you look at his transcripts from school (and the public knowledge) he wasn't doing all that great.
When I was in college I rarely did any homework yet in all my CS classes I never dropped below a B. And the classes I got B's where those I rarely went to or didn't do the homework because it was just utterly mundane.
Hmm - I didn't know about that. I do love your sig though.. absolutely beautiful.
Which book? Feel free to provide a reference. Chances are I have read it. Anybody can code, few can code great. Bill Gates, for everything I have read and seen, can code.
get off your cynical ass and read a book.
And also, it's much easier to stay on my ass and read, thanks.