There was plenty of other dispersant available. Corexit is illegal in Great Britain, what do they have stockpiled over there? No, Corexit was used because it was purchased from a sister company, BP's fucking board paying themselves for this little fuck up. By your own admission, the numbers you present show that US Polychemical could have been producing enough all along, we've been using dispersant for more than ten days, which means we've been using it at a rate under 60,000 gallons a day if we've only used 500,000 gallons. D'oh!
Obama could have kept this and the response in the news, demanded we hire US companies to clean up and stick BP with the bill, immediately ask congress to overturn the $75 million cap on oil spill damages, put Navy Bathyscapes down at the site to survey what was down there, demanded BP use the best dispersant available, declared a state of emergency and put funds into ramping up production of booms, containment, and recovery, he could have done oh so fucking much more than he has.
No, Bush was part of a well known Republican policy to destroy government. Republicans want smaller government. Putting people into Federal Departments who would refuse to enforce inconvenient laws was all part of the process. It's not a difficult concept to grasp, and anytime I see Republicans talking amongst themselves, they pat each other on the back for it.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I thought her swearing was a form of mockery of the oil industry workers in general. And quite rehearsed.
If she were just freestyle swearing, I could completely sympathize, but because (again, to me) it was mockery reaching an almost childish level, it just came across as theatrical profanity.
You know that I actually knew the answers to those questions I posed, right? I just don't like the answers. And "That's just how it is and the world is unfair" isn't an argument, it's the is/aught fallacy. But the military thing I get, it was pointed out to me during Haiti. Still, wouldn't it be nice if we could send in our military if the citizens asked for it? Say what you will about how our military gets used, they get shit done. Save the Army Corps of Engineers, ah, their reputation isn't the highest. Send in the SeaBees. I knew the State screwed up in Louisiana, too. I had friends that went down to help. It was a clusterfuck, all around.
Anyway, hop over to the more recent story, I've got another angry rant going on over there. Watch the video that the AC said I must have seen. Well, I had read the transcript, yes. Fucking proper fucking booming was not, is not being done.
It matters quite a bit. For instance, if the drilling mud does not work, the plan is to try a variety of different sized materials such as shredded rubber and gold balls. The size and composition of the right mix depends on the flow rate. The success rate of other plans depends on the flow rate. We are trying plans based on false data and I don't see how you think just 'throwing everything at it' is any kind of a plan.
Wow, you fail. All climate change data is available for anyone to see. Anyone can look at the data and come to their own conclusions, of course, deniers have already made up their minds, so they don't need to look. If it doesn't fit their preconceived conclusions, it must be false anyhow.
The wife and I are trying to cut back, and back in my vegetarian days, my friends and I had Indian food night quite often. So I do know how to cook it.
No, it doesn't go both ways, unless perhaps you have evidence of an entire fucking state adopting a liberal slanted curriculum such as you describe? Thought not, that shit only happens in your fantasies. There is no parity. It is not 'tit for tat.' You can't excuse your side's behavior by drawing false parallels to the other side.
Clinton never ran a budget surplus. He got close though, but only because he robbed from the Social Security trust fund (just like every president has for the last half-century).
BP doesn't have external insurance, they are self insured. Meaning, they have a fund. The damage cap is $75 million, how big do you think their fund is? They've said they will pay the whole amount, but how much do you think that will count for when this goes to court? They will blame it all on Transocean and tie this thing up in court for decades.
I'll still vote for him as the lesser of two evils, yes. He's done some good things. IMHO, he's another Reagan, his stated favorite US president, did you know that? His law school adviser said that, on election night, on the Daily Show. It didn't sound like a joke. And Dubya made even Reagan look good, so yeah, I'll pick another Reagan/Clinton over another Dubya.
Fuck. Pwned by my own sig. Yours is eerily appropriate too, seeing as how I tried veganism and couldn't hack it. Just put me down as a hypocrite then. Now I'm so depressed I'm going to have to go drown my sorrows in a huge steak. I'm a chef, man, not by trade anymore, I'm in IT now, but I still... I don't know, it's like asking an artist to only paint in black and white.
"As a liberal, I am very, very upset with the man I voted for right now."
Bush II never did anything out of character.
Bush Light, OTOH, knew he could do whatever he wished because his base had no alternative but to vote for Change We Can Believe In. No matter how pissed off they get this will not change in 2012, and it's hilarious. Who expected to be Pwn3d by a Chicago political shapeshifter?
Me. I knew what he was even back then, but what was the fucking alternative? Senator grandad and caribou barbie? I would have had to leave the country out of sheer embarrassment if they had been elected.
If we nationalized just one company for screwing up, the rest would fall into line tout de suite. And then when the government agency screws up, we auction it all of to private industry again. This process would repeat itself until we found some entity, public or private, that could handle managing it right. But in the mean time, I think I just found a solution to our budget problems.
BP has lied about the flow rate and did not release data that would allow scientists to judge it. All they would have to do is release their data, which would not stop the effort to stop the flow. In fact, knowing the size of the flow is kind of crucial to stopping it.
From what I've read, the containment is inadequate. Double booms aren't being used in most places, they are aren't being anchored right, no catch basins are being used to collect the oil being trapped, with no pumps at the nonexistent catch basins to remove it. Meaning, the oil will build up and overtop or run under the booms instead of being collected and removed. In order to work, booms need to direct oil to catchbasins for removal. Meaning, they might as well not be booming at all. Best practices are not being followed. A science based, data driven approach would mean, at the very least, doing what has worked in the past, and not doing what hasn't worked.
The use of a more dangerous, less effective dispersant in an untried, untested underwater application is also far from science based. But that was the dispersant BPs sister company had on hand to sell them, and with multiple board members sitting on both companies, I think we can say profits trumped science once again. As a liberal, I am very, very upset with the man I voted for right now. At least Bush was just an idiot with Katrina. Obama seems to be deliberately pandering to Big Oil.
Lol, but I've given enough information to look up and see that I'm right. Look up games theory, the dictator game, the public goods game, and so on. Read 'The Continuum Concept' and 'Saharasia.' Your theories are about twenty years out of date, my friend. Perhaps clinging to them excuses your violent and vengeful behaviors, in your own eyes.
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Try wikipedia or google, I'm not your encyclopedia.
It was Clinton's push to cut the fat and raise taxes that did it.
Clinton managed to balance the budget by cutting the fat.
Huh? He's been lampooned for his chubby-chasing.
Budump-cha! That was Culture2.0 folks, he'll be here all week. Be sure to tip your veal and try the waitress.
There was plenty of other dispersant available. Corexit is illegal in Great Britain, what do they have stockpiled over there? No, Corexit was used because it was purchased from a sister company, BP's fucking board paying themselves for this little fuck up. By your own admission, the numbers you present show that US Polychemical could have been producing enough all along, we've been using dispersant for more than ten days, which means we've been using it at a rate under 60,000 gallons a day if we've only used 500,000 gallons. D'oh!
Obama could have kept this and the response in the news, demanded we hire US companies to clean up and stick BP with the bill, immediately ask congress to overturn the $75 million cap on oil spill damages, put Navy Bathyscapes down at the site to survey what was down there, demanded BP use the best dispersant available, declared a state of emergency and put funds into ramping up production of booms, containment, and recovery, he could have done oh so fucking much more than he has.
No, Bush was part of a well known Republican policy to destroy government. Republicans want smaller government. Putting people into Federal Departments who would refuse to enforce inconvenient laws was all part of the process. It's not a difficult concept to grasp, and anytime I see Republicans talking amongst themselves, they pat each other on the back for it.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I thought her swearing was a form of mockery of the oil industry workers in general. And quite rehearsed.
If she were just freestyle swearing, I could completely sympathize, but because (again, to me) it was mockery reaching an almost childish level, it just came across as theatrical profanity.
She IS an oil industry worker.
You know that I actually knew the answers to those questions I posed, right? I just don't like the answers. And "That's just how it is and the world is unfair" isn't an argument, it's the is/aught fallacy. But the military thing I get, it was pointed out to me during Haiti. Still, wouldn't it be nice if we could send in our military if the citizens asked for it? Say what you will about how our military gets used, they get shit done. Save the Army Corps of Engineers, ah, their reputation isn't the highest. Send in the SeaBees. I knew the State screwed up in Louisiana, too. I had friends that went down to help. It was a clusterfuck, all around.
Anyway, hop over to the more recent story, I've got another angry rant going on over there. Watch the video that the AC said I must have seen. Well, I had read the transcript, yes. Fucking proper fucking booming was not, is not being done.
Don't sweat it, I was in high dudgeon rant mode, I probably wouldn't have gotten it if you had enclosed it in [sarcasm] tags.
It matters quite a bit. For instance, if the drilling mud does not work, the plan is to try a variety of different sized materials such as shredded rubber and gold balls. The size and composition of the right mix depends on the flow rate. The success rate of other plans depends on the flow rate. We are trying plans based on false data and I don't see how you think just 'throwing everything at it' is any kind of a plan.
I love the smell of impotent rage in the morning. It smells like... victory.
Only if it looks like my state is going to go for someone who isn't a lunatic, otherwise, I have to use my vote to keep the lunatic out.
Wow, you fail. All climate change data is available for anyone to see. Anyone can look at the data and come to their own conclusions, of course, deniers have already made up their minds, so they don't need to look. If it doesn't fit their preconceived conclusions, it must be false anyhow.
The wife and I are trying to cut back, and back in my vegetarian days, my friends and I had Indian food night quite often. So I do know how to cook it.
No, it doesn't go both ways, unless perhaps you have evidence of an entire fucking state adopting a liberal slanted curriculum such as you describe? Thought not, that shit only happens in your fantasies. There is no parity. It is not 'tit for tat.' You can't excuse your side's behavior by drawing false parallels to the other side.
Clinton never ran a budget surplus. He got close though, but only because he robbed from the Social Security trust fund (just like every president has for the last half-century).
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/during_the_clinton_administration_was_the_federal.html
BP doesn't have external insurance, they are self insured. Meaning, they have a fund. The damage cap is $75 million, how big do you think their fund is? They've said they will pay the whole amount, but how much do you think that will count for when this goes to court? They will blame it all on Transocean and tie this thing up in court for decades.
I'll still vote for him as the lesser of two evils, yes. He's done some good things. IMHO, he's another Reagan, his stated favorite US president, did you know that? His law school adviser said that, on election night, on the Daily Show. It didn't sound like a joke. And Dubya made even Reagan look good, so yeah, I'll pick another Reagan/Clinton over another Dubya.
Fuck. Pwned by my own sig. Yours is eerily appropriate too, seeing as how I tried veganism and couldn't hack it. Just put me down as a hypocrite then. Now I'm so depressed I'm going to have to go drown my sorrows in a huge steak. I'm a chef, man, not by trade anymore, I'm in IT now, but I still... I don't know, it's like asking an artist to only paint in black and white.
"As a liberal, I am very, very upset with the man I voted for right now."
Bush II never did anything out of character.
Bush Light, OTOH, knew he could do whatever he wished because his base had no alternative but to vote for Change We Can Believe In.
No matter how pissed off they get this will not change in 2012, and it's hilarious. Who expected to be Pwn3d by a Chicago political shapeshifter?
Me. I knew what he was even back then, but what was the fucking alternative? Senator grandad and caribou barbie? I would have had to leave the country out of sheer embarrassment if they had been elected.
Clinton managed to balance the budget by cutting the fat. It is possible to have a fiscally responsible government.
The EPA is now forcing BP to use a different dispersant. Obama could have made that happen a month ago.
If we nationalized just one company for screwing up, the rest would fall into line tout de suite. And then when the government agency screws up, we auction it all of to private industry again. This process would repeat itself until we found some entity, public or private, that could handle managing it right. But in the mean time, I think I just found a solution to our budget problems.
Rather than war, couldn't we just set the military-industrial complex to the task of breaking windows and then fixing them?
BP has lied about the flow rate and did not release data that would allow scientists to judge it. All they would have to do is release their data, which would not stop the effort to stop the flow. In fact, knowing the size of the flow is kind of crucial to stopping it.
From what I've read, the containment is inadequate. Double booms aren't being used in most places, they are aren't being anchored right, no catch basins are being used to collect the oil being trapped, with no pumps at the nonexistent catch basins to remove it. Meaning, the oil will build up and overtop or run under the booms instead of being collected and removed. In order to work, booms need to direct oil to catchbasins for removal. Meaning, they might as well not be booming at all. Best practices are not being followed. A science based, data driven approach would mean, at the very least, doing what has worked in the past, and not doing what hasn't worked.
The use of a more dangerous, less effective dispersant in an untried, untested underwater application is also far from science based. But that was the dispersant BPs sister company had on hand to sell them, and with multiple board members sitting on both companies, I think we can say profits trumped science once again. As a liberal, I am very, very upset with the man I voted for right now. At least Bush was just an idiot with Katrina. Obama seems to be deliberately pandering to Big Oil.
Lol, but I've given enough information to look up and see that I'm right. Look up games theory, the dictator game, the public goods game, and so on. Read 'The Continuum Concept' and 'Saharasia.' Your theories are about twenty years out of date, my friend. Perhaps clinging to them excuses your violent and vengeful behaviors, in your own eyes.