HY: With your OS kernel HURD coming into the beta stage, it has finally become possible to create a complete system based on the GNU product lineup. Now how does GNU development work?
RMS: Umm, first, please be careful with that word "product". Product implies that something is made to be sold. Now, software companies develop software to sell copies. So that's a product. Whereas the aim of the GNU project is to create a better community. We sell copies to develop software. So there is a fundamental difference. ......
HY: So this HURD, do you feel that it is as advanced as you aimed to be in the first place?
RMS: "In the first place", that's not the "reason" that we set out to write HURD. We didn't do it for any technical advancements. That's a very common misunderstanding. The aim of GNU is _social_ advance, that is to expand the freedom of the users. ----------------------------------
1) Double edged sword. When I type and want to move mouse coursor out of the way I have to always make sure that it stays within the same window. Hate that. 2. This is not tremendous advantage. Infact, I think you don't use Windows often because just about every application that uses dialogs have them set during creation to stay on top ( check Photoshop for example.) It is a problem on UNIX (specially GTK apps ) that dialogs created by main program will disappear if one clicks on the main window. I know it sucks but it is GTK problem ( or WM that doesn't honor certain falgs.)
3. Heh.. you know what ? you should blame xterm or whatever are you using for this behaviour. IT should know that there are apps launched and running from it and therefore , like any well behaved program , should ask the user for confirmation before exiting. You blaming WM ( KDE I presume ) for stupid behaviour on the part of xterm.
Windows interface works great with some small exceptions that are completely not related to problems you mentioned in your post. The biggets problem on Windows is lack of layout managers in Win32API which often forces developers to simply create nonresizable dialogs. VEry often it is not a problem but it simply sucks in things like file requestors etc...
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Heh, Dude... It would be rather strange if World Water Forum suddenly declared that the next war will be fought over... grain and therefore WWF is not really needed anymore. These people live off donations, based on scaring off people... They have to come up with some gruesome scenario just to stay in "business".
You analogy is flawed. They mention that Linux is simply to time consumming to set up properly. I would argue that once set up it requiress not much time but..well, it is true, NT is easier.
Windoze is not a dirty hack. It is an OS that is not UNIX,ok ?? It is way better at many things including desktop applications,games and just about anything that is not related to high performance services.
I you insist on name calling... Linux is a ripoff off 20 years old operating system. Nothing, nothing there is original and this really applies to the whole OpenSource community. Show me one product that is not another version of something that was done commercially before. And these people talk about innovations..... ironic.
When it works it is amazing, saves tons of work if one uses qt but.... version 1.0 had annoying habit of crashing whenever one ventured outside most common tasks. I will stick with SlickEdit for time being and take another look at Kdevelop in about 6 months.
No adverse effects. Just another proof that GPL is not free. Its closed proprietary license that forces certain restrictive rules on the user - just another variation on the old true theme. So where is that revolutionary concept everybody is talking about ?
I would... Perhaps not kernel module but AcceleratedX is quite popular among Linux users ( and rightly so.)
If it works, I don't give a damn if it has a source.
Hehe, GPL theoreticaly is about sharing code , right ?
OK, You want to expand your software, spend more time on it and make some money... theoretically,somebody else shared code would help you to get there faster, but since it is GPLed you are basically fucked and have to reimplement everything from scratch. If you do GPL your code then you will never see any money from it. The problem with GPL is that is not compatible with basic laws of economy and this is the reason it will die off ( so far nobody ever won there )
GTK on Windows faster then on X ? That says something... Great counter-argument to people claiming that X is generally as fast as not networked GUI implementations.
You have a problem here dude... Lighten up, read up about sense of humor, God forbid, try to crack a joke from time to time - you will see how easy it is.
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Nope, it is Linux that sucks in that particular role. In the other words, games on Linux sucks because .. ( makes no difference for most people)
Linux was not invented.
It is reimplementation of old ideas in , sometimes better and new , style.
Very reasonable article. Clearly exposes silliness of RMS ideas. Just read it and tell me if what he says is not true ..
HY: With your OS kernel HURD coming into the beta stage, it has finally become possible to create a complete system based on the GNU product lineup. Now how does GNU development work?
RMS: Umm, first, please be careful with that word "product". Product implies that something is made to be sold. Now, software companies develop software to sell copies. So that's a product. Whereas the aim of the GNU project is to create a better community. We sell copies to develop software. So there is a fundamental difference.
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HY: So this HURD, do you feel that it is as advanced as you aimed to be in the first place?
RMS: "In the first place", that's not the "reason" that we set out to write HURD. We didn't do it for any technical advancements. That's a very common misunderstanding. The aim of GNU is _social_ advance, that is to expand the freedom of the users.
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I think even Cobol is better suited for OO than Perl
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So is this thing really RAD like Delphi?
Not yet but it will be.
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WTF is that ??
Artistic license or FreeBSD type one are truly free but GPL is just as restrictive.
Well, it is not illusion, it is reality. Don't forget, we create our own reality.
1) Double edged sword. When I type and want to move mouse coursor out of the way I have to always make sure that it stays within the same window. Hate that.
.. you know what ? you should blame xterm or whatever are you using for this behaviour. IT should know that there are apps launched and running from it and therefore , like any well behaved program , should ask the user for confirmation before exiting. You blaming WM ( KDE I presume ) for stupid behaviour on the part of xterm.
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2. This is not tremendous advantage. Infact, I think you don't use Windows often because just about every application that uses dialogs have them set during creation to stay on top ( check Photoshop for example.)
It is a problem on UNIX (specially GTK apps ) that dialogs created by main program will disappear if one clicks on the main window. I know it sucks but it is GTK problem ( or WM that doesn't honor certain falgs.)
3. Heh
Windows interface works great with some small exceptions that are completely not related to problems you mentioned in your post. The biggets problem on Windows is lack of layout managers in Win32API which often forces developers to simply create nonresizable dialogs. VEry often it is not a problem but it simply sucks in things like file requestors etc
Heh, Dude ... It would be rather strange if World Water Forum suddenly declared that the next war will be fought over ... grain and therefore WWF is not really needed anymore. These people live off donations, based on scaring off people ... They have to come up with some gruesome scenario just to stay in "business".
Heheeh .... .. people do think in these categories. Like it or not but it is true ( of course no one would ever admit to it.)
You are actually right
You analogy is flawed. They mention that Linux is simply to time consumming to set up properly. I would argue that once set up it requiress not much time but ..well, it is true, NT is easier.
Windoze is not a dirty hack. It is an OS that is not UNIX ,ok ?? It is way better at many things including desktop applications,games and just about anything that is not related to high performance services.
... Linux is a ripoff off 20 years old operating system. Nothing, nothing there is original and this really applies to the whole OpenSource community. ..... ironic.
I you insist on name calling
Show me one product that is not another version of something that was done commercially before.
And these people talk about innovations
You want to play games on Alpha ? ... this will run on p100 just as well...
I guess, you could play Xsokoban on it but then
Whera I work the policy is : BSD type licensed software is fine, absolutely no GPL software around.
And you know what, I completely agreee with them.
When it works it is amazing, saves tons of work if one uses qt but
Ever been to www.windows95.com.
At least 50% of software available there is in more advanced ( read usable) state that stuff you get on slashdot.
No adverse effects. Just another proof that GPL is not free. Its closed proprietary license that forces certain restrictive rules on the user - just another variation on the old true theme.
So where is that revolutionary concept everybody is talking about ?
Kool
"No source is bad.
... like for example being specifically prohibited to use GPL code in commercial software where source code will not be available.
Prohibitions on what we can do is even worse"
Yep
I completely agree, licenses sucks, they always prohibit something !!
I would ... Perhaps not kernel module but AcceleratedX is quite popular among Linux users ( and rightly so.)
If it works, I don't give a damn if it has a source.
Hehe, GPL theoreticaly is about sharing code , right ?
... theoretically,somebody else shared code would help you to get there faster, but since it is GPLed you are basically fucked and have to reimplement everything from scratch. If you do GPL your code then you will never see any money from it.
OK, You want to expand your software, spend more time on it and make some money
The problem with GPL is that is not compatible with basic laws of economy and this is the reason it will die off ( so far nobody ever won there )
GTK on Windows faster then on X ? That says something ... Great counter-argument to people claiming that X is generally as fast as not networked GUI implementations.
You have a problem here dude ... Lighten up, read up about sense of humor, God forbid, try to crack a joke from time to time - you will see how easy it is.
Can't beat ? They did and in record time. Starting with version 4 IE was and is way better then anything Netscape people ever produced.