I'll agree AMD has no cometition at the very-high end of the market, but I have a K6/2 450 and I have to say it kicks my friends PII 400 by more but that should be warranted by 50 mhz. I've never seen a K6 machine that didn't run quickly. That is where the most money is being spent, buying personal computers way overpowered for most people. The higher-end market may cost more per unit, but you're a fool if you think it does more volume.
AMD's management sucking is something I don't get. Why even say this? ALL management sucks if you ask me:)
Triple amen to you! Originally I was on the side of the wysiwig stuff.. but then I tried emacs and I was impressed.
The ONLY place where you may want to use a gui-style editor is for table-design. It's hard to get that perfect table. But then, I despise using tables for layout purposes. You should to. Just Say Yes To CSS1!
For students that don't fit in the normal High School molds, it's a nightmare. But everyone's already said that. Let me say something that I haven't seen here.
I have nothing but contempt for the kids who did this. If I could, I'd personally beat the living crap out of them.... not because they killed or any such thing, being a child of generation X has made me desensetized, but because they snapped.
I had a hellish high school experience, it was one of those all-boys catholic hipocracys. Did I go insane and shoot people? Nope. Did I ever think about it? Sure I did.
I think the REAL problem with americas youth is that they are so spoiled, that they can't seem to grasp this idea of "consequences" that follow their actions. I'm out of high school now, but everyone I know back in highschool is so impulsive.. heck, a lot of the freshman I know in college are that way too.
Doom, Quake and other such games aren't the cause. Neither is TV or movies. Why is everyone so quick to latch onto these things? Because that last thing any parent wants to admit is that they didn't teach their children those critical moral values everyone is expected to at least follow in letter, if not believe in.
My sympathy goes out to everyone in high school right now. It gets better, I swear. Of course everyone has said that too.
Actually, I won't lie. It dosen't get that much better at first. It takes time for high-school to wear off. As time goes on, it does.
As for these stories I read of kids being harassed? You have to stand up to this crap. You can't just meekly agree to not make waves, make the damned waves. If someone dosen't like your trenchcoat? Too bad. It's one of the founding tenants of america.
Redhat is good for someone who wants to break into the linux world. But I hate to say it, but RPM's are annoying. Trying to install something like the new GTK is a nightmare of package dependancies and such. I should know, I gave up on using the rpms and went to source installs, which I find easier and more informative.
Lots of people find source installs easier than rpms in the long run. Should this be so? Maybe someone should revamp rpm and make it really, really frikin intelligent... because thats what a package manager needs to be.
Redhat does some things wierd, but all in all it's a pretty efficient distribution, it dosen't have as much raw kipple on the CD's as debian does, but it has 90% of what a beginner needs. As time goes on, you can stop depending on the rpm system and slowly begin to maintain it yourself with source installs.
Hi. Does the word "development" mean anything to you? Guess not. Gee, development, do you think it has bugs?
Don't even talk about the UI, because it's not even beta yet. You complain because it dosen't behave right on a complex page like slashdot, I'm amazed it runs slashdot at all (technically slashdot is a table abusive page, one day it should be done with CSS)
So yes, you're a Halfwit. Stop whining and contribute if you want to see improvments. I personally think the people who worked on this are code.demigods for getting a cross platform app like this working.
Oh, and as a note. You don't use tables for formatting, that is an old hack. Use CSS1, almost all browsers have support enough to do most of your formatting in it.
I'm not saying it has to be totally accessable to everyone. That would be stupid and degrade the quality of the linux user community.
What microsoft fears from linux is losing the small server opportunites. Using NT to set up a web server really isn't THAT much easier thatn Linux (i had to do it, what a pain) but N$ would like everyone to think it is. For a long time that was enough, but now linux is being booked as faster and much cleaner. So out pops this test to show NT is faster.
The argument of games is totally irrelavent in this thread. We're talking about server performance of a high-end NT box vs. a Linux Box.
As I said before, tell your non-geek friends this was a strategicly intelligent marketing move. I don't need to debunk it, because this whole thread has done a pretty good job of doing that already.
This, is a marketing move. Microsoft wants to try and nail Linux before it really begins to pose a serious threat to thier server markets.
Educated people, people who know enough about computers, are not the target of this. It's the more casual person who is going to choose the NT box when hearing it runs "twice as fast" as a linux box.
This is bad for linux users. It's really important we try and debunk this. Because if we don't, linux will stay where it is right now, a quiet underdog contented who can't get enough mainstream acceptance to really take off, like it could.
Just my take. Tell your non-geek friends, this test was a setup!
Does anyone remeber Minidiscs? I do. I own one. All this talk about 6 hours of music and quality the human ear can't desitingush is crap because most people don't care.
As the first post pointed out, the real explosion comes from portability, conveniance, and ubiquity. I personally wish that Minidiscs were pushed harder. They sound almost as good as CDs, hold the same amount of music (more if you cut the stereo) and they are conveniant and cheap.
THAT is the sorta thing people need, kinda like a CD-age version of the casette tape.
Well, sure we can be paranoid. But when you get right down to it there is NOTHING you or I can do about it. We'll each try and make ourselves as secure as possible and keep our eyes peeled. Making a run on banks, and digging fallout shelters is just plain foolish. What good will money do in a world where the economy has died? Bleah.
Oh well. All I plan to do is be ready for an extended power outage, and I will have a nice trip up to the remote mountains during the day, to miss those fun accidental nuclear strikes. I'll probably die anyways, but its an excuse to to out with some friends. ^_^
Back when NeXT's were good computers, they had it all. Awsome styling and power. Why can't we have more computers styles along the sleek black look? I can't say the iMac looks 'stylish'. Translucency never caught on as fashion in my book. Now if it were totally transparent that might be something. ^_^
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I'll agree AMD has no cometition at the very-high end of the market, but I have a K6/2 450 and I have to say it kicks my friends PII 400 by more but that should be warranted by 50 mhz. I've never seen a K6 machine that didn't run quickly. That is where the most money is being spent, buying personal computers way overpowered for most people. The higher-end market may cost more per unit, but you're a fool if you think it does more volume.
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AMD's management sucking is something I don't get. Why even say this? ALL management sucks if you ask me
Triple amen to you!
Originally I was on the side of the wysiwig stuff.. but then I tried emacs and I was impressed.
The ONLY place where you may want to use a gui-style editor is for table-design. It's hard to get that perfect table. But then, I despise using tables for layout purposes. You should to. Just Say Yes To CSS1!
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For students that don't fit in the normal High School molds, it's a nightmare. But everyone's already said that. Let me say something that I haven't seen here.
I have nothing but contempt for the kids who did this. If I could, I'd personally beat the living crap out of them.... not because they killed or any such thing, being a child of generation X has made me desensetized, but because they snapped.
I had a hellish high school experience, it was one of those all-boys catholic hipocracys. Did I go insane and shoot people? Nope. Did I ever think about it? Sure I did.
I think the REAL problem with americas youth is that they are so spoiled, that they can't seem to grasp this idea of "consequences" that follow their actions. I'm out of high school now, but everyone I know back in highschool is so impulsive.. heck, a lot of the freshman I know in college are that way too.
Doom, Quake and other such games aren't the cause. Neither is TV or movies. Why is everyone so quick to latch onto these things? Because that last thing any parent wants to admit is that they didn't teach their children those critical moral values everyone is expected to at least follow in letter, if not believe in.
My sympathy goes out to everyone in high school right now. It gets better, I swear. Of course everyone has said that too.
Actually, I won't lie. It dosen't get that much better at first. It takes time for high-school to wear off. As time goes on, it does.
As for these stories I read of kids being harassed? You have to stand up to this crap. You can't just meekly agree to not make waves, make the damned waves. If someone dosen't like your trenchcoat? Too bad. It's one of the founding tenants of america.
Redhat is good for someone who wants to break into the linux world. But I hate to say it, but RPM's are annoying. Trying to install something like the new GTK is a nightmare of package dependancies and such. I should know, I gave up on using the rpms and went to source installs, which I find easier and more informative.
Lots of people find source installs easier than rpms in the long run. Should this be so? Maybe someone should revamp rpm and make it really, really frikin intelligent... because thats what a package manager needs to be.
Redhat does some things wierd, but all in all it's a pretty efficient distribution, it dosen't have as much raw kipple on the CD's as debian does, but it has 90% of what a beginner needs. As time goes on, you can stop depending on the rpm system and slowly begin to maintain it yourself with source installs.
Hi.
Does the word "development" mean anything to you? Guess not. Gee, development, do you think it has bugs?
Don't even talk about the UI, because it's not even beta yet. You complain because it dosen't behave right on a complex page like slashdot, I'm amazed it runs slashdot at all (technically slashdot is a table abusive page, one day it should be done with CSS)
So yes, you're a Halfwit. Stop whining and contribute if you want to see improvments. I personally think the people who worked on this are code.demigods for getting a cross platform app like this working.
Oh, and as a note. You don't use tables for formatting, that is an old hack. Use CSS1, almost all browsers have support enough to do most of your formatting in it.
I'm not saying it has to be totally accessable to everyone. That would be stupid and degrade the quality of the linux user community.
What microsoft fears from linux is losing the small server opportunites. Using NT to set up a web server really isn't THAT much easier thatn Linux (i had to do it, what a pain) but N$ would like everyone to think it is. For a long time that was enough, but now linux is being booked as faster and much cleaner. So out pops this test to show NT is faster.
The argument of games is totally irrelavent in this thread. We're talking about server performance of a high-end NT box vs. a Linux Box.
As I said before, tell your non-geek friends this was a strategicly intelligent marketing move. I don't need to debunk it, because this whole thread has done a pretty good job of doing that already.
This, is a marketing move. Microsoft wants to try and nail Linux before it really begins to pose a serious threat to thier server markets.
Educated people, people who know enough about computers, are not the target of this. It's the more casual person who is going to choose the NT box when hearing it runs "twice as fast" as a linux box.
This is bad for linux users. It's really important we try and debunk this. Because if we don't, linux will stay where it is right now, a quiet underdog contented who can't get enough mainstream acceptance to really take off, like it could.
Just my take. Tell your non-geek friends, this test was a setup!
Does anyone remeber Minidiscs? I do. I own one.
All this talk about 6 hours of music and quality the human ear can't desitingush is crap because most people don't care.
As the first post pointed out, the real explosion comes from portability, conveniance, and ubiquity. I personally wish that Minidiscs were pushed harder. They sound almost as good as CDs, hold the same amount of music (more if you cut the stereo) and they are conveniant and cheap.
THAT is the sorta thing people need, kinda like a CD-age version of the casette tape.
Well, sure we can be paranoid. But when you get right down to it there is NOTHING you or I can do about it. We'll each try and make ourselves as secure as possible and keep our eyes peeled. Making a run on banks, and digging fallout shelters is just plain foolish. What good will money do in a world where the economy has died? Bleah.
Oh well. All I plan to do is be ready for an extended power outage, and I will have a nice trip up to the remote mountains during the day, to miss those fun accidental nuclear strikes. I'll probably die anyways, but its an excuse to to out with some friends. ^_^
Back when NeXT's were good computers, they had it all. Awsome styling and power. Why can't we have more computers styles along the sleek black look? I can't say the iMac looks 'stylish'. Translucency never caught on as fashion in my book. Now if it were totally transparent that might be something. ^_^