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Maybe if you USED mutt, you'd know that it's interface is similar to a no-nonsense elm layout.
And, if you're using unix, ALL your applications are "command-line" applications. I hate to break this to you, but why not look in the code of your window manage and see what it does to start menued programs. Wow. Amazing huh?
The idea that "GUI" is the future isn't 100% correct. While having Gui's is nice, and it helps the learning curve, nothing beats the speed of the command line. I like to think of GUI as the first step towards being able to use the command line.
Very few people can design truly efficent and elegant graphical user interfaces anyways, so most of them are confusing and poorly laid out. With this situation, GUI can be worse than the command line, because it can become counterintuitive to an extreme.
The command line, however, is a constant. It's not really intuitive or counterintuitive. It's just a comand prompt.
Just because you run a program in an xterm dosen't mean it's a command line program. Your post bespeaks both a lack of knowledge on this thread, and a lack of understanding of UNIX-style operating systems and programming in general.
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
It's not as if we can demand the industry go straight to open source. What, from a marketing point of view the only advantage is that they can "ride the trend." Why then would they even want to? You forget that companies these days, sadly, are not in the game to make quality software. They're in it to make money.
I'm happy that a big company like Sun is doing something as huge as the SCSL. The SCSL is actually a reasonably open liscence. While I'd love to see them use the LGPL or some such, I can wait.
The idea of open source, despite all the media glitz, is still pretty foreign to companies. Let them test the waters for a few years. Resistance is futile, I suppose.
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
What I always find curious about the free software community is that they get irked whenever this word "profit" comes up. People have to make money somewhere, to pay all us programmers.
I think the GPL is a very interesting liscense, but as slashdot has pointed out in the past, the full GPL has some ambiguities that, if I ran a company, I wouldn't like. LGPL is much better, and follows more along the path of the BSD-style liscences.
Is it fair to say that Sun is making an honest attempt at "going both ways" in open souce? I think so. The SCSL's major difference is that it isn't quite so iron clad about the whole "derivative works", and what you can do with them, thing.
For many companies, the GPL just dosen't make sense. The Open Source Community constantly bashes any company who wants to take those first steps into Open Source. Everyone has to realize that it won't happen overnight, and discouraging these companies will only slow it down by orders of magnitude.
Instead, I think, we should be applauding companies like Sun and Apple who are at least making an attempt. Anything else is counter-productive to the long term goals of the Free Software Community.
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
What happened to the "90's", this new era of balance and tolerance??
This is the result of young women who take their ideals from things like MTV, and Baywatch, and the like. Being raised by television, appearance is the #1 thing they are concered about.
I attend college at a famous party school. I'm a geek. I know tons of guys who, from my limited knowledge, chicks dig. But they're also the people who are as dumb as posts, and wait in line to throw up after a hard night of partying in the dorms. Is this good? These people have been living the same life since middle school.
You know the type, we all do, the people who barely scrape by in grades, have been drinking since age 13, are statistically more likely to get into hard drugs, and who's brains are about as well developed as a chimps. While the geek's idea of a romantic night may be to show a girl his bug collection, at least he HAS some concept of romance. Most of the guys who fit these profiles ADMIT they want sex. As soon as possible. As often as possible. They reduce the dating process to a race to see how fast they can get in the woman's pants.
I dunno. Is this romantic? Maybe, being a geek, I'm just too outa touch.
Not to say, that I, being my geekly self, am any better. I'm just the opposite of the spectrum. But what young women are being taught these days, is that since appearance is what counts, go for appearance, and anything else is bad. Sex, parties, and good clothes, they are taught, are what drive the world. While this is certainly not a hard rule, the media (*cough*MTV*cough*) certainly would like us to THINK that.
Whats even more ironic, I think, is that that article, to me, described many traits that my friends and I thought were "good" to find in a woman. And we're geeks.
What do the women of slashdot have to say to this? And what about all the fine women who are happily married to a geek. Where do they enter this simple 10 step plan to attract the perfect man?
As usual, we see yet another example of how depressing American Culture really can be. Leave the geeks to drive MOST of America's economy (look at the stats on America's GNP, it's not bodybulding that keeps us comfortable), but shun them, because they're BAD. So bad we made a program to keep them from approching you! Be warned, ladies, if you slump your shoulders, us geeks will SWARM you!
Yep, this makes tons of sense. Thanks, America. Yet again shafting those who support you. No historical patterns here, eh?
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
The Linux Kernel actually supports IPv6 pretty well, from what I can see. What you're forgetting is sysutils and the like DON'T always know about IPv6 yet. For instance, I don't think telnet is protocol independant. So you really can't blame it.
Besides, an addr of::1 probably isn't a good idea anyways, you're really asking for it. You should use IPv4 mapped IPv6 addresses like::127.0.0.1 and the like.
For you coders out there, STOP using the old methods, inet_ntoa and inet_aton. These DON'T work! You need to use inet_pton (which are defined in to handle IPv6 properly, if at all. Read the prototype if you haven't already.)
It's a wise idea these days to develop network applications that are protocol independant. I see stuff that isn't coming out of freshmeat.net all the time.
It's usually a simple chore to patch source to be protocol independant, you just whip around a few different calls. Developers should take heed! - Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
Few enough people understand enough about computing to truly understand what coding is. My mother still thinks I'm BS-ing her when I say I'm coding. Unlike the work she's seen done in visual basic (gag), I do my work in C, with editor du jour: Vi. She refuses to beleive I do work.
This is the sort of mentality is what movies have to appeal to. It's amazing how slowly people believe a dull truth, but how quick they are to take to a flashy generalization or outright lie.
Movies like Hackers and The Matrix are direct results of this. Hackers was a failure, because it was so generic that it lacked any informaition.
At least The Matrix had spirit, it had style, it made the admission that computer code is pretty much incomprehensible to people who don't know it. That much was ok.
I suppose we'll see more lousy movies in the future. Grit your teeth and educate. - Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
Lain is an exceptional series about a girl, some cool tech themes, a lot of surreality, and the idea of artifical intelligence being more viable than natural intelligence.
Further, Lain's father has a __6__ head display! That is 6 monitors for one machine! He's introduced into the series when he comes home gloating over some new cards.
Lain is a must see for geeks, from the theme song (which is in english, nicely enough) to the bizzare imagry and Hellmouth themes to the accurate portrayal of computers (albeit futuristic), Lain is a geek's geek anime.
There is even REAL LIFE C Code in Lain's class. She's learning control structures as the story begins:)
See it.
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
I'll make it short, I'd like to be your competiton in 5 years:)
It's not one of those things where everyone would like to do it. I intend to do it. I've already incorperated, and have a group of people working with me. What we'd like is your input.. how did Id make it's beginnings? Were there any pitfalls you hit? Were there any things you did that worked especially well (besides the games, I mean:).
Thanks, paradox(at)hushmail(dot)com - Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
My friend is a master of dvorak, I pale when I see how fast he can type. He dosen't seem to have any problem switching back and forth, either. He explains that it's just like learning another language. Maybe he's just good at it tho.
I know they do make dvorak keyboards, I've seen them on sale, but only at surplus stores.
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
Uhh, Linux is a kernel and a set of system utilites, folks. I'm sick of hearing stuff like "Why dosen't linux have a standard GUI environment." It's like asking why dosen't NetBSD have one. Because it's OUTSIDE THE SCOPE of the operating system.
Now, redhat linux, for instance, can make it's "standard" and thats fine. Redhat is a distribution.
Linux's biggest problem is the users right now. They're all migrants from the windows world who don't really get the separation between "linux" and a "linux distribution." These are users of the worst sort.
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
So what? Cigarettes are for people who want lung cancer, do we have any right to say who can and can't smoke? NO!
Whats horrible about reports like this is that it scares the sheep-like flock of TrendyMoms and other TrendyFolk who buy into the latest health fads to restrict their children, and be SOOoooOOo smug about how well they are raising their children, despite the fact they still ignore them.
Just like with the colorado incedent, when are we going to say, "Hey! It's the fault of the parents!"
It's not always, but people are so loathe to say "well duh, you did a shitty job parenting!"
I think a lot of problems are caused by children who, seeking attention, do outrageous things. If a child doesn't feel unattended, they won't vy for more attention in the first place!
There is nothing wrong with TV. Just like the internet, there is a LOT of educational stuff out there, mixed in with the crap.
The trick is helping your children find it.
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
3) Not true. There IS a lot of backwards compatibility because it DOES get used. X is not all that bloated, although a diet would improve things.
4) If you want a speedier environment (#6) then this wouldn't help. Coding GUI's isn't hard in C, it's merely a matter of preference, and I'm sure many people will fight to the death to keep coding gui's in C.
5) Standardization is a Bad Thing. The whole idea of X is to make something that interfaces witht the video drivers and provides only the very basic tools. Standardization of GUI's is beyond the scope of it. Use KDE or GNOME, this is what they're made for.
6)Your card probably isn't supported very well. There are a variety of reasons for this. Netscape never flickers grey for me.. and my PC isn't exceptional, nor is my video card. Netscpae is a bad example anyways, since it isn't exactly a high-performance piece of software.
7) This is where the windowmanager comes in. And the graphics toolkits. You can't blame X for the variety out there, and X shouldn't make one standard at the cost of hurting the others. GTK+ is making a bid these days for the default toolkit, and things like GNOME and KDE do somethign similar.
Besides the X-consortium thing, your arguments miss the point.
Probably the biggest complaint most people have is the client-server architecture, but there are benefits to this as well (in computer labs, etc..) which IMHO far outweigh any problems.
Besides, it's not like opening a connection to your own computer is slow, and I remember hearing if X knows its working on the same computer it makes optimizations (but I am not sure on that.)
Which dosen't mean the berlin project is bad. That's the spirit of open source operating systems like BSD and Linux, if you don't like what's out, write your own!
- Paradox Man of the C!!! perl -e "print join q( ), split(q.z.,reverse qq;):zrekcahzlrepzrehtonaztey; );"
Why is everyone saying, "The brain is lossy" and that you can't recall things as a bitmap or other such claims?
I can think back to the mountains I live near, and I can remeber major details, clearings, and such. I can form a picture in my mind, in full color, in real time. Of course it's not 100% accurate in every way but neither are compressed image formats!!!
Our clairty of memory is directly related to how much we care about the particular memory. If it was just something that happened, and we don't care, then we will either not remeber it or remember it fuzzily at best. Similar things occur if we don't WANT to remember it.
There are many techniques to bring the details of a scene out, and I don't mean hypnosis. I myself use a variety of mental tricks to help my memory.
One more thing, anyone who says the brain's recall rate is 2bps is smoking crack. I can call C into my head and examine it's various statements and data types easily. I think many people here could.
I'm of the opinion that memory is like scaffolding, the more you put onto it, the more room there is for new stuff, the older stuff just gets obscured unless you are careful not to.
Allright. When I see this person here complaining, saying, "It took me forever to set up ppp" and whatnot, I was curious. Then I saw he was using slack. Now I am not.
Don't get me wrong, slack is a neat distribution. It's not as nazi-ish as redhat nor as huge as debian... but let's face it. It is NOT the easiest distribution to configure in the world.
If you can't set it up because you were machocistic and said, "I'm a good computer user, I bet I can handle slack." It's not linux's fault, or slack's fault. It's your fault for taking on too much.
Oh, and in case you didn't notice GNOME is not supposed to be really all that stable. It's only version 1.0.6. If you really need that tightly structured a desktop environment, KDE is the way to go 100%
Only two people addressed that article? Let me add to the total: P1) When companies add to the operating system, the may need to revise when new versions of that operating system come out.
CP1) Duh! THis is true for ANY OS! Of course, it's interesting that a company can add a kernel module or even extend the kernel in any way, without even asking. Can you do this with windows????? Can you?
P2) Windows comes with a suite of network apps preconfigured and easy to use.
CP2) No, it dosen't. Sorry. It just dosen't. Does it come with an SQL server? A high power web-server? Proxy 2.0 was EXPENSIVE last time I checked. All these critical tools! They come with many linux distros!
P3) The author of this post says linux software is buggy.
CP4) Uhh, not really. Have you had ipchains crash? Apache crash? MySQL crash? I haven't. I've done some downright stupid things to them and they still don't crash. Meanwhile, back on the windows box, I still can't run NT for more than a few days straight. You may say it's a matter of management, but when I have an easier time managing linux than NT, thats scary.
CP5) The quote "more than windows - not less" is absurd. For the money you spend, you get a ridiculous amount more with linux. It's almost scary. Anyone who says windows comes with more is either misinformed or lying.
Just my take on this absurd and poorly thought out article, and the stupidity that tries to give it merit.
Does that include yourself? I've spend 6 hours coding. So I thought I'd have a quick coffee break and check slashdot. Instead all I find are invidious comments.
Why don't you just admit when you say, "Good Taste" you mean "What dosen't offend me personally at this moment" and come out with it.
One of the strangest things about TV censorship is that people act as if the masses are somehow compelled to watch something. As if you can't press the power button on your TV and pick up a damned book. That's what I do when I see something dumb and/or in "bad taste".
It's probably better for you anyways.
America has a strange sickness. We have twisted words like "compassion" and "courtesy" and "moral" and "good taste" to fill a strange roll. People use them to get what they want. We need to be understanding and compassionate. So therefore we ban what I find offensive. Politicans have been doing this more and more this decade.
It's sick. It's using someone else's pain or difficulty to futher your own moral agenda.
So, don't say that that episode of a silly show would stop lives. If it does, then maybe they need to get some therapy. Not for any violent incedents, but because they put far to much stock in television.
Well. I wouldn't count on it NOT giving the earth a good dose or two... The amount of radiation it could emit would be amazingly intense. Previous supernovas were felt on earth, a tiny bit. I think they caught like 23 nutrinos (there were many more but those were the only ones detected) from the last big supernova. What happens when star that is this close (it's not THAT far) blows, and blows big? I'd rather not find out.
But, it problably won't happen in our lifetime. - Paradox
Sheesh. He never said Geeks were a uniform grop. Katz is just saying, on average, people who classified themselves as 'geeks' liked that movie. It's true too. Look at this thread. In general 'geeks' liked this movie. Everyone seems to like to find minor flaws with Katz's statements and twist them WAYYY out of proportion, on the pretense of sounding more intelligent. Maybe because they are bitter THEY don't get to write these huge articles for slashdot (even though I suppose anyone could). I've seen half a dozen people complain about what Katz said now. Some were good. Some were, "I randomly disagree, because you are John Katz."
On The Matrix. It was an ok Moive. It was a great Geek Movie. Why was it a great geek movie? Because on average, geeks liked it. I'm sure theres a hardcore coder out there who HATES the matrix. So what? Oh well.
As for a geek litmus test, I'm not sure you can go quite that far, but there are certainly worse indicators.
Maybe it's just that at the time the original SW's were made, it would have been a bad idea to show someone being cut in half and have blood spraying everywhere ^_^
SMDI is a "yet to be defined" standard. I think the RIAA is just making smoke anyways, the ONLY way this new standard would catch on is if it had an even better compression scheme than mp3, and even then, we all know that we'll just resample mp3s.
I am afraid they're gonna make it a clinet-server based thing, where you HAVE to be on the internet to listen to music. That sucks for dialup people like myself. What ever happened to just turning on mood music?
Oh well, It's not gonna happen. The internet and mp3's are, IMHO, stronger than a lot of corperations. I know you'll pry MY mp3's out of my cold, death hands. Lots of people sample all their CD's to mp3, because it's more conveniant and mp3's don't scratch.
- Paradox You were a fool to doubt me, Mr. Manager....
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Maybe if you USED mutt, you'd know that it's interface is similar to a no-nonsense elm layout.
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And, if you're using unix, ALL your applications are "command-line" applications. I hate to break this to you, but why not look in the code of your window manage and see what it does to start menued programs. Wow. Amazing huh?
The idea that "GUI" is the future isn't 100% correct. While having Gui's is nice, and it helps the learning curve, nothing beats the speed of the command line. I like to think of GUI as the first step towards being able to use the command line.
Very few people can design truly efficent and elegant graphical user interfaces anyways, so most of them are confusing and poorly laid out. With this situation, GUI can be worse than the command line, because it can become counterintuitive to an extreme.
The command line, however, is a constant. It's not really intuitive or counterintuitive. It's just a comand prompt.
Just because you run a program in an xterm dosen't mean it's a command line program. Your post bespeaks both a lack of knowledge on this thread, and a lack of understanding of UNIX-style operating systems and programming in general.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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What do you think drives Sun to do this?
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It's certainly not the kindness of the human heart. If you think money isn't an issue here, then you're in denial.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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It's not as if we can demand the industry go straight to open source. What, from a marketing point of view the only advantage is that they can "ride the trend." Why then would they even want to? You forget that companies these days, sadly, are not in the game to make quality software. They're in it to make money.
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I'm happy that a big company like Sun is doing something as huge as the SCSL. The SCSL is actually a reasonably open liscence. While I'd love to see them use the LGPL or some such, I can wait.
The idea of open source, despite all the media glitz, is still pretty foreign to companies. Let them test the waters for a few years. Resistance is futile, I suppose.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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What I always find curious about the free software community is that they get irked whenever this word "profit" comes up. People have to make money somewhere, to pay all us programmers.
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I think the GPL is a very interesting liscense, but as slashdot has pointed out in the past, the full GPL has some ambiguities that, if I ran a company, I wouldn't like. LGPL is much better, and follows more along the path of the BSD-style liscences.
Is it fair to say that Sun is making an honest attempt at "going both ways" in open souce? I think so. The SCSL's major difference is that it isn't quite so iron clad about the whole "derivative works", and what you can do with them, thing.
For many companies, the GPL just dosen't make sense. The Open Source Community constantly bashes any company who wants to take those first steps into Open Source. Everyone has to realize that it won't happen overnight, and discouraging these companies will only slow it down by orders of magnitude.
Instead, I think, we should be applauding companies like Sun and Apple who are at least making an attempt. Anything else is counter-productive to the long term goals of the Free Software Community.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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What happened to the "90's", this new era of balance and tolerance??
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This is the result of young women who take their ideals from things like MTV, and Baywatch, and the like. Being raised by television, appearance is the #1 thing they are concered about.
I attend college at a famous party school. I'm a geek. I know tons of guys who, from my limited knowledge, chicks dig. But they're also the people who are as dumb as posts, and wait in line to throw up after a hard night of partying in the dorms. Is this good? These people have been living the same life since middle school.
You know the type, we all do, the people who barely scrape by in grades, have been drinking since age 13, are statistically more likely to get into hard drugs, and who's brains are about as well developed as a chimps. While the geek's idea of a romantic night may be to show a girl his bug collection, at least he HAS some concept of romance. Most of the guys who fit these profiles ADMIT they want sex. As soon as possible. As often as possible. They reduce the dating process to a race to see how fast they can get in the woman's pants.
I dunno. Is this romantic? Maybe, being a geek, I'm just too outa touch.
Not to say, that I, being my geekly self, am any better. I'm just the opposite of the spectrum. But what young women are being taught these days, is that since appearance is what counts, go for appearance, and anything else is bad. Sex, parties, and good clothes, they are taught, are what drive the world. While this is certainly not a hard rule, the media (*cough*MTV*cough*) certainly would like us to THINK that.
Whats even more ironic, I think, is that that article, to me, described many traits that my friends and I thought were "good" to find in a woman. And we're geeks.
What do the women of slashdot have to say to this?
And what about all the fine women who are happily married to a geek. Where do they enter this simple 10 step plan to attract the perfect man?
As usual, we see yet another example of how depressing American Culture really can be. Leave the geeks to drive MOST of America's economy (look at the stats on America's GNP, it's not bodybulding that keeps us comfortable), but shun them, because they're BAD. So bad we made a program to keep them from approching you! Be warned, ladies, if you slump your shoulders, us geeks will SWARM you!
Yep, this makes tons of sense. Thanks, America. Yet again shafting those who support you. No historical patterns here, eh?
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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The Linux Kernel actually supports IPv6 pretty well, from what I can see. What you're forgetting
::1 probably isn't a good idea anyways, you're really asking for it. You should use IPv4 mapped IPv6 addresses like ::127.0.0.1 and the like.
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is sysutils and the like DON'T always know about
IPv6 yet. For instance, I don't think telnet is protocol independant. So you really can't blame it.
Besides, an addr of
For you coders out there, STOP using the old methods, inet_ntoa and inet_aton. These DON'T work! You need to use inet_pton (which are defined in to handle IPv6 properly, if at all. Read the prototype if you haven't already.)
It's a wise idea these days to develop network applications that are protocol independant. I see stuff that isn't coming out of freshmeat.net all the time.
It's usually a simple chore to patch source to be protocol independant, you just whip around a few different calls. Developers should take heed!
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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Few enough people understand enough about computing to truly understand what coding is. My mother still thinks I'm BS-ing her when I say I'm coding. Unlike the work she's seen done in visual basic (gag), I do my work in C, with editor du jour: Vi. She refuses to beleive I do work.
This is the sort of mentality is what movies have to appeal to. It's amazing how slowly people believe a dull truth, but how quick they are to take to a flashy generalization or outright lie.
Movies like Hackers and The Matrix are direct results of this. Hackers was a failure, because it was so generic that it lacked any informaition.
At least The Matrix had spirit, it had style, it made the admission that computer code is pretty much incomprehensible to people who don't know it. That much was ok.
I suppose we'll see more lousy movies in the future. Grit your teeth and educate.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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It's spelled "Lain"
:)
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Lain is an exceptional series about a girl, some cool tech themes, a lot of surreality, and the idea of artifical intelligence being more viable than natural intelligence.
Further, Lain's father has a __6__ head display! That is 6 monitors for one machine! He's introduced into the series when he comes home gloating over some new cards.
Lain is a must see for geeks, from the theme song (which is in english, nicely enough) to the bizzare imagry and Hellmouth themes to the accurate portrayal of computers (albeit futuristic), Lain is a geek's geek anime.
There is even REAL LIFE C Code in Lain's class. She's learning control structures as the story begins
See it.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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I'll make it short, I'd like to be your competiton in 5 years :)
:).
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It's not one of those things where everyone would like to do it. I intend to do it. I've already incorperated, and have a group of people working with me. What we'd like is your input.. how did Id make it's beginnings? Were there any pitfalls you hit? Were there any things you did that worked especially well (besides the games, I mean
Thanks,
paradox(at)hushmail(dot)com
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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My friend is a master of dvorak, I pale when I see how fast he can type. He dosen't seem to have any problem switching back and forth, either. He explains that it's just like learning another language. Maybe he's just good at it tho.
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I know they do make dvorak keyboards, I've seen them on sale, but only at surplus stores.
- Paradox
Man of the C!!!
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Uhh, Linux is a kernel and a set of system utilites, folks. I'm sick of hearing stuff like "Why dosen't linux have a standard GUI environment." It's like asking why dosen't NetBSD have one. Because it's OUTSIDE THE SCOPE of the operating system.
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Now, redhat linux, for instance, can make it's "standard" and thats fine. Redhat is a distribution.
Linux's biggest problem is the users right now. They're all migrants from the windows world who don't really get the separation between "linux" and a "linux distribution." These are users of the worst sort.
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Man of the C!!!
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So what? Cigarettes are for people who want lung
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cancer, do we have any right to say who can and
can't smoke? NO!
Whats horrible about reports like this is that
it scares the sheep-like flock of TrendyMoms
and other TrendyFolk who buy into the latest
health fads to restrict their children, and be
SOOoooOOo smug about how well they are raising
their children, despite the fact they still
ignore them.
Just like with the colorado incedent, when
are we going to say, "Hey! It's the fault
of the parents!"
It's not always, but people are so loathe to say
"well duh, you did a shitty job parenting!"
I think a lot of problems are caused by children
who, seeking attention, do outrageous things. If
a child doesn't feel unattended, they won't
vy for more attention in the first place!
There is nothing wrong with TV. Just like the
internet, there is a LOT of educational stuff
out there, mixed in with the crap.
The trick is helping your children find it.
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Man of the C!!!
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PCanywhere is damned slow, even over ethernet. I'm using it right now, on fast machines.
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X is way faster than this crap.
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Man of the C!!!
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1) There is no excuse for this one
2) See #1
3) Not true. There IS a lot of backwards compatibility because it DOES get used. X is not all that bloated, although a diet would improve things.
4) If you want a speedier environment (#6) then this wouldn't help. Coding GUI's isn't hard in C, it's merely a matter of preference, and I'm sure many people will fight to the death to keep coding gui's in C.
5) Standardization is a Bad Thing. The whole idea of X is to make something that interfaces witht the video drivers and provides only the very basic tools. Standardization of GUI's is beyond the scope of it. Use KDE or GNOME, this is what they're made for.
6)Your card probably isn't supported very well. There are a variety of reasons for this. Netscape never flickers grey for me.. and my PC isn't exceptional, nor is my video card. Netscpae is a bad example anyways, since it isn't exactly a high-performance piece of software.
7) This is where the windowmanager comes in. And the graphics toolkits. You can't blame X for the variety out there, and X shouldn't make one standard at the cost of hurting the others. GTK+ is making a bid these days for the default toolkit, and things like GNOME and KDE do somethign similar.
Besides the X-consortium thing, your arguments miss the point.
Probably the biggest complaint most people have is the client-server architecture, but there are benefits to this as well (in computer labs, etc..)
which IMHO far outweigh any problems.
Besides, it's not like opening a connection to your own computer is slow, and I remember hearing if X knows its working on the same computer it makes optimizations (but I am not sure on that.)
Which dosen't mean the berlin project is bad. That's the spirit of open source operating systems like BSD and Linux, if you don't like what's out, write your own!
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Man of the C!!!
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Why is everyone saying, "The brain is lossy" and that you can't recall things as a bitmap or other such claims?
I can think back to the mountains I live near, and I can remeber major details, clearings, and such. I can form a picture in my mind, in full color, in real time. Of course it's not 100% accurate in every way but neither are compressed image formats!!!
Our clairty of memory is directly related to how much we care about the particular memory. If it was just something that happened, and we don't care, then we will either not remeber it or remember it fuzzily at best. Similar things occur if we don't WANT to remember it.
There are many techniques to bring the details of a scene out, and I don't mean hypnosis. I myself use a variety of mental tricks to help my memory.
One more thing, anyone who says the brain's recall rate is 2bps is smoking crack. I can call C into my head and examine it's various statements and data types easily. I think many people here could.
I'm of the opinion that memory is like scaffolding, the more you put onto it, the more room there is for new stuff, the older stuff just gets obscured unless you are careful not to.
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Allright. When I see this person here complaining, saying, "It took me forever to set up ppp" and whatnot, I was curious. Then I saw he was using slack. Now I am not.
Don't get me wrong, slack is a neat distribution. It's not as nazi-ish as redhat nor as huge as debian... but let's face it. It is NOT the easiest distribution to configure in the world.
If you can't set it up because you were machocistic and said, "I'm a good computer user, I bet I can handle slack." It's not linux's fault, or slack's fault. It's your fault for taking on too much.
Oh, and in case you didn't notice GNOME is not supposed to be really all that stable. It's only version 1.0.6. If you really need that tightly structured a desktop environment, KDE is the way to go 100%
Only two people addressed that article? Let me add to the total:
P1) When companies add to the operating system, the may need to revise when new versions of that operating system come out.
CP1) Duh! THis is true for ANY OS! Of course, it's interesting that a company can add a kernel module or even extend the kernel in any way, without even asking. Can you do this with windows????? Can you?
P2) Windows comes with a suite of network apps preconfigured and easy to use.
CP2) No, it dosen't. Sorry. It just dosen't. Does it come with an SQL server? A high power web-server? Proxy 2.0 was EXPENSIVE last time I checked. All these critical tools! They come with many linux distros!
P3) The author of this post says linux software is buggy.
CP4) Uhh, not really. Have you had ipchains crash? Apache crash? MySQL crash? I haven't. I've done some downright stupid things to them and they still don't crash. Meanwhile, back on the windows box, I still can't run NT for more than a few days straight. You may say it's a matter of management, but when I have an easier time managing linux than NT, thats scary.
CP5) The quote "more than windows - not less" is absurd. For the money you spend, you get a ridiculous amount more with linux. It's almost scary. Anyone who says windows comes with more is either misinformed or lying.
Just my take on this absurd and poorly thought out article, and the stupidity that tries to give it merit.
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Most movies end up doing this. But most try and lessen the impact of it. But I think the whole idea was to make fun of the sponsorship.
Having Dr. Evil own Starbucks is damned funny, and if made more money for the movie, all the better.
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Dust off your iMacs folks! It's time to make
those little suckers way more useful!
I remember hacking R4 to work on the iMac. Even then linux on an iMac was a cool workstation idea.
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As if NT is any better.
Stop fooling yourself.
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Does that include yourself? I've spend 6 hours coding. So I thought I'd have a quick coffee break and check slashdot. Instead all I find are invidious comments.
Kinda depressing actually.
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Why don't you just admit when you say, "Good Taste" you mean "What dosen't offend me personally at this moment" and come out with it.
One of the strangest things about TV censorship is that people act as if the masses are somehow compelled to watch something. As if you can't press the power button on your TV and pick up a damned book. That's what I do when I see something dumb and/or in "bad taste".
It's probably better for you anyways.
America has a strange sickness. We have twisted words like "compassion" and "courtesy" and "moral" and "good taste" to fill a strange roll. People use them to get what they want. We need to be understanding and compassionate. So therefore we ban what I find offensive. Politicans have been doing this more and more this decade.
It's sick. It's using someone else's pain or difficulty to futher your own moral agenda.
So, don't say that that episode of a silly show would stop lives. If it does, then maybe they need to get some therapy. Not for any violent incedents, but because they put far to much stock in television.
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Well. I wouldn't count on it NOT giving the earth
a good dose or two... The amount of radiation it could emit would be amazingly intense. Previous supernovas were felt on earth, a tiny bit. I think they caught like 23 nutrinos (there were many more but those were the only ones detected) from the last big supernova. What happens when star that is this close (it's not THAT far) blows, and blows big? I'd rather not find out.
But, it problably won't happen in our lifetime.
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Sheesh. He never said Geeks were a uniform grop.
Katz is just saying, on average, people who classified themselves as 'geeks' liked that movie. It's true too. Look at this thread. In general 'geeks' liked this movie. Everyone seems to like to find minor flaws with Katz's statements and twist them WAYYY out of proportion, on the pretense of sounding more intelligent. Maybe because they are bitter THEY don't get to write these huge articles for slashdot (even though I suppose anyone could).
I've seen half a dozen people complain about what Katz said now. Some were good. Some were, "I randomly disagree, because you are John Katz."
On The Matrix. It was an ok Moive. It was a great Geek Movie. Why was it a great geek movie? Because on average, geeks liked it. I'm sure theres a hardcore coder out there who HATES the matrix. So what? Oh well.
As for a geek litmus test, I'm not sure you can go quite that far, but there are certainly worse indicators.
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Maybe it's just that at the time the original SW's were made, it would have been a bad idea to show someone being cut in half and have blood spraying everywhere ^_^
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SMDI is a "yet to be defined" standard.
I think the RIAA is just making smoke anyways, the ONLY way this new standard would catch on is if it had an even better compression scheme than mp3, and even then, we all know that we'll just resample mp3s.
I am afraid they're gonna make it a clinet-server based thing, where you HAVE to be on the internet to listen to music. That sucks for dialup people like myself. What ever happened to just turning on mood music?
Oh well, It's not gonna happen. The internet and mp3's are, IMHO, stronger than a lot of corperations. I know you'll pry MY mp3's out of my cold, death hands. Lots of people sample all their CD's to mp3, because it's more conveniant and mp3's don't scratch.
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You were a fool to doubt me, Mr. Manager....