Yes. I was addressing the thankless foreigners who enter the country for a free education and bail before we have proper payback. I was not addressing you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. But the fact of the matter I was trying to make is that only the students are leaving, not the teachers. The US has the best teachers in the World and will continue to do so. We are the leaders in technology hands down. If you want technology made cheap you go to Japan. If you want technology made smarter you come to the US. Most of the technology used around the world originated here first.
Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.
Hey, I'm American too. I work in IT, run Linux, MAC, and Windows and I have several friends that do too. There are plenty of smart people in the US who were born and raised here. I admit that the school system has slid a little, mostly thanks to the liberal agenda, but there are still plenty of smart people here that can hold their own against anyone else in the world. What's on 95% of the World's computers and who wrote it? Windows and an American!!! All I'm saying is that if you don't like this country why did you come HERE for an education in the first place? If you don't like it then GET OUT AND DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE BUM!!!
I meant to include this too. Scratch, created by MIT , is a good programming tutor for kids too. You build programs by stacking code blocks together. It would help to teach structure.
link: http://scratch.mit.edu/
ps Sorry about subject title. This was my first post to this forum.:)
If you are going to start them on the road to programming you first need to teach them the skills which are the base to any good modern programming language. Find books (do not rely on the Internet; use it only for examples and syntax) which teach good program design (such as moduler programming) and basic programming structures (such as for..next loops). Don't use books for certification tests because they are too application specific and these technologies change so quickly that the information won't do them any good. As far as languages go, you should pick a language that isn't too tough for beginners. Preferably one with a GUI environment that will assist them on syntax. Microsoft Visual Basic is an excellent example and you can download the Express version for free. If you choose something such as C++ or Java you should use an environment like Ecliplse. There are some language/environments created for teaching beginning programmers. Programming tutors such as Alice (www.alice.org), Phogram (phrogram.com), etc. teach programming basics and give quick visual and sometimes graphical results. This helps keep their attention so they feel they aren't wasting their time writing things like 'Hello World'. You know how dull that gets after the millionth time. You should let them work in teams as well to build their social and team environment skills. This is more like real world programming where we rely on each others knowledge and experience to get things done.
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Yes. I was addressing the thankless foreigners who enter the country for a free education and bail before we have proper payback. I was not addressing you. Sorry for the misunderstanding. But the fact of the matter I was trying to make is that only the students are leaving, not the teachers. The US has the best teachers in the World and will continue to do so. We are the leaders in technology hands down. If you want technology made cheap you go to Japan. If you want technology made smarter you come to the US. Most of the technology used around the world originated here first. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.
Hey, I'm American too. I work in IT, run Linux, MAC, and Windows and I have several friends that do too. There are plenty of smart people in the US who were born and raised here. I admit that the school system has slid a little, mostly thanks to the liberal agenda, but there are still plenty of smart people here that can hold their own against anyone else in the world. What's on 95% of the World's computers and who wrote it? Windows and an American!!! All I'm saying is that if you don't like this country why did you come HERE for an education in the first place? If you don't like it then GET OUT AND DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE BUM!!!
I meant to include this too. Scratch, created by MIT , is a good programming tutor for kids too. You build programs by stacking code blocks together. It would help to teach structure. link: http://scratch.mit.edu/ ps Sorry about subject title. This was my first post to this forum. :)
If you are going to start them on the road to programming you first need to teach them the skills which are the base to any good modern programming language. Find books (do not rely on the Internet; use it only for examples and syntax) which teach good program design (such as moduler programming) and basic programming structures (such as for..next loops). Don't use books for certification tests because they are too application specific and these technologies change so quickly that the information won't do them any good. As far as languages go, you should pick a language that isn't too tough for beginners. Preferably one with a GUI environment that will assist them on syntax. Microsoft Visual Basic is an excellent example and you can download the Express version for free. If you choose something such as C++ or Java you should use an environment like Ecliplse. There are some language/environments created for teaching beginning programmers. Programming tutors such as Alice (www.alice.org), Phogram (phrogram.com), etc. teach programming basics and give quick visual and sometimes graphical results. This helps keep their attention so they feel they aren't wasting their time writing things like 'Hello World'. You know how dull that gets after the millionth time. You should let them work in teams as well to build their social and team environment skills. This is more like real world programming where we rely on each others knowledge and experience to get things done.