"..models are fundamentally flawed.." They are not. Not by any stretch.
" Processing power has followed Moore's Law for the entire time these temperature predictions have been made, so that really isn't the issue." And you don't understand Moore's law, well done.
You seem to be ignoring the states that have higher then normal temperature this year. Why? You seem to be linking overall global temperatures to a few states in the US. Why?
While there is non human fluctuation in CO2, currently humans put out for 32 Gigatonnes of CO2 per year. Far exceeding the amount can go through the carbon cycle in a year. CO2 traps IR. Clearly, the current rising trend is due to humans. Without the excess CO2 we have been emiting, we would not be experiencing the current temperature rise.
IN 2103 Facebook has nearly 8 billion in revenue and about 2.5 billion in operation income.. In one year it's profit went from 60 million to 580 million.
I'm sorry, you were saying Facebook Doesn't make any money?
IF you use faebook, then you are making facebook money. Not that it's right or wrong to use facebook.
When he was a child he and his mother need food stamps. He later worked at Yahoo, and others, and didn't need food stamps then.
I like the part where you need to not think and just cherry pick so you can deal with the fact you will never have money or accomplish anything.
Every one should take a lesson there. Live frugal and you can save a lot of money. There will always be toys to spend money on, no need to live on the edge of your income.
I work for Dominos, for years. frankly, I don't believe you. I mean it is so counter Domino's culture. It's a place where people in board meeting show up in there dominoes shirt after helping out at needed pizza places. Note I'm not defending their pizza, just the culture. Every one I met, from Manager to board member would be appalled at that attitude, and people would be fired. The Mangers and GM get paid for too much to be that crappy.
North East? like Maine? I wonder becasue Maine know nothing of pizza..or any 'foreighn' food. But isn't New York also in the NE? they have some pretty good pizza* but I enver heard of anyone doing that English muffin abomination and calling it pizza.
Well, a good way to start avoiding it is to mitigate global changes. "In the long run, we'll all be dead" People who say that are the worst of the species.
".. And it seems to be based on an unfalsifiable hypothesis,.." What. The. Fuck? You really have no clue, do you? I mean.. none. You have no idea what the science is, do you? That would be fine, but then you base your argument on your willful ignorance. Sickening.
Let me break it down. 1) Visible light hits the Earth. Testable and falsifiable. Check 2) CO2 is transparent to visible light. Testable and falsifiable. Check 3) When visible light strikes something, IR is generated. Testable and falsifiable. Check 4) CO2 absorbs IR energy. Testable and falsifiable. Check 5) More CO2 is put into then atmosphere that can be absorbed. Testable and falsifiable. Check
SO genius, explain to me where the energy is going if it isn't warming the atmosphere? Why are the scientific prediction actually happening?
If shit hits the fan, People like you should be the first against the wall.
I've read both. As well as the literature. The uncertainties are not whether or not its happening, it's about the margin of error in the time line. As it is turning out, they(scientist who are an expert in this field) have been mostly too conservative in that.
Do you even understand the basic science of this?
Since you can't seem to look at science, that's look at the real world political practicalities. well, 1 of them.
China has the most to lose with global warming. Yet they agree its also man made. Do you think China is part of some environmentalist conspiracy?
A) One is alarmist and not scientists, pay attention to the scientists B) It's been 25 years of mostly no series attempt to correct things. So the timeline has been getting shorter. C) Scientists have almost always resented the most conservative numbers. This has been a mistak. Not that they should be alarmist, but they should also point out worst case. D) If you are old enough to remember the 70's you would be aware the alarmists have been going on since then, and probalby even before
Just becasue you don't seem to get it, we Only the most outrages hubris assume are talking about the human species. That new equilibrium doesn't have to be one that's survivable by humans..or any species. Venus has an equilibrium.
Only the most outrages hubris would assume equilibrium = survivable by humans.
Why do you think it will stop at 10c? That's the feed back loop. However, lets look at 10c, shall we?
Farmland dries up, wind has more energy. more dustbowls, almost no farmland. Increased rain washing away soil, and increase acidity and algae die offs mean are main O2 generator is dying rapidly.
Are glacier heat sinks will be gone, and there will be nothing to cool the ocean. The sea level rises, removing a lot of livable area. Live stock will be severely crippled. Without a freezing winter, diseases and insets will spread much more rapidly. Another hit to the food supply.
The longer we ait to deal with t, the more expensive it will be. But pundits and shills without any actual evidence, and never discussing the science but always nit picking the predictions, keep going o as if there is a controversy. So getting things done is hard and take too long.
This has been known fro sure since 1990. If people went with the science, we could have been progressing toward a fix slowly surely, with cost cheaper and spread out over time. The longer we wait, the more costs will be.
It is fixable, but we need to start fixing it and trying things instead of cowering under out sheet every time someone mentions money.
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Performance based on what? over what time frame? how to you deal with companies that are at or near the peak level?
You are correct. Cherry picking and lying about the temperature data is the issue.
"..models are fundamentally flawed .."
They are not. Not by any stretch.
" Processing power has followed Moore's Law for the entire time these temperature predictions have been made, so that really isn't the issue."
And you don't understand Moore's law, well done.
You seem to be ignoring the states that have higher then normal temperature this year. Why?
You seem to be linking overall global temperatures to a few states in the US. Why?
While there is non human fluctuation in CO2, currently humans put out for 32 Gigatonnes of CO2 per year. Far exceeding the amount can go through the carbon cycle in a year.
CO2 traps IR.
Clearly, the current rising trend is due to humans.
Without the excess CO2 we have been emiting, we would not be experiencing the current temperature rise.
almost like pollutants don't give a shit about borders.
That is false.
WARNING: I have read many previous reports so you citation have better be rock solid*.
*Rock Solid was my porn name!
The fiction known a Satoshi Makamoto as disappeared. There is no way to know if the group/person behind that fiction has cashed his coins.
If I can buy almost anything I want with it, how is it different?
Do you have the phone contact info for 450 million people? no?
IN 2103 Facebook has nearly 8 billion in revenue and about 2.5 billion in operation income..
In one year it's profit went from 60 million to 580 million.
I'm sorry, you were saying Facebook Doesn't make any money?
IF you use faebook, then you are making facebook money.
Not that it's right or wrong to use facebook.
When he was a child he and his mother need food stamps. He later worked at Yahoo, and others, and didn't need food stamps then.
I like the part where you need to not think and just cherry pick so you can deal with the fact you will never have money or accomplish anything.
Every one should take a lesson there. Live frugal and you can save a lot of money. There will always be toys to spend money on, no need to live on the edge of your income.
"Bethesda"
You seem to think the name needs to reflect the version.
It was boring. Visual very nice, but boring.
I work for Dominos, for years. frankly, I don't believe you.
I mean it is so counter Domino's culture. It's a place where people in board meeting show up in there dominoes shirt after helping out at needed pizza places.
Note I'm not defending their pizza, just the culture. Every one I met, from Manager to board member would be appalled at that attitude, and people would be fired. The Mangers and GM get paid for too much to be that crappy.
North East? like Maine? I wonder becasue Maine know nothing of pizza..or any 'foreighn' food.
But isn't New York also in the NE? they have some pretty good pizza* but I enver heard of anyone doing that English muffin abomination and calling it pizza.
*don't start.
No, it isn't awesome. Hell I wouldn't even call it pizza. More like an open face sandwich.
Besides, you should save you french bread for french toast.
Well, a good way to start avoiding it is to mitigate global changes.
"In the long run, we'll all be dead"
People who say that are the worst of the species.
".. And it seems to be based on an unfalsifiable hypothesis, .." .. none. You have no idea what the science is, do you?
What. The. Fuck?
You really have no clue, do you? I mean
That would be fine, but then you base your argument on your willful ignorance. Sickening.
Let me break it down.
1) Visible light hits the Earth. Testable and falsifiable. Check
2) CO2 is transparent to visible light. Testable and falsifiable. Check
3) When visible light strikes something, IR is generated. Testable and falsifiable. Check
4) CO2 absorbs IR energy. Testable and falsifiable. Check
5) More CO2 is put into then atmosphere that can be absorbed. Testable and falsifiable. Check
SO genius, explain to me where the energy is going if it isn't warming the atmosphere? Why are the scientific prediction actually happening?
If shit hits the fan, People like you should be the first against the wall.
I've read both. As well as the literature.
The uncertainties are not whether or not its happening, it's about the margin of error in the time line. As it is turning out, they(scientist who are an expert in this field) have been mostly too conservative in that.
Do you even understand the basic science of this?
Since you can't seem to look at science, that's look at the real world political practicalities. well, 1 of them.
China has the most to lose with global warming. Yet they agree its also man made. Do you think China is part of some environmentalist conspiracy?
A) One is alarmist and not scientists, pay attention to the scientists
B) It's been 25 years of mostly no series attempt to correct things. So the timeline has been getting shorter.
C) Scientists have almost always resented the most conservative numbers. This has been a mistak. Not that they should be alarmist, but they should also point out worst case.
D) If you are old enough to remember the 70's you would be aware the alarmists have been going on since then, and probalby even before
Just becasue you don't seem to get it, we Only the most outrages hubris assume are talking about the human species. That new equilibrium doesn't have to be one that's survivable by humans..or any species. Venus has an equilibrium.
Only the most outrages hubris would assume equilibrium = survivable by humans.
Why do you think it will stop at 10c? That's the feed back loop.
However, lets look at 10c, shall we?
Farmland dries up, wind has more energy. more dustbowls, almost no farmland. Increased rain washing away soil, and increase acidity and algae die offs mean are main O2 generator is dying rapidly.
Are glacier heat sinks will be gone, and there will be nothing to cool the ocean. The sea level rises, removing a lot of livable area.
Live stock will be severely crippled.
Without a freezing winter, diseases and insets will spread much more rapidly. Another hit to the food supply.
The longer we ait to deal with t, the more expensive it will be. But pundits and shills without any actual evidence, and never discussing the science but always nit picking the predictions, keep going o as if there is a controversy. So getting things done is hard and take too long.
This has been known fro sure since 1990. If people went with the science, we could have been progressing toward a fix slowly surely, with cost cheaper and spread out over time. The longer we wait, the more costs will be.
It is fixable, but we need to start fixing it and trying things instead of cowering under out sheet every time someone mentions money.
"it's easier just to create strawmen and red herrings."
Only if you use science!