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" it's artificial. It isn't real." of course it's real. It's not real because we built it in a lab? what a bunch of shit.
Since most of what we consider 'sentience' is actually an illusion the mind creates to give of contiguous context, we only appear to be sentient. Decisions you make? are far more often made before you even consciously think about them. You memories? can change if the context changes, or if some words a question a certain way. You vision? lots of bits and piece of what is in front of you, the rest made up by the brain.
100 years ago, the stomach was a mystery. No one knew how it worked. it was, in effect, a magical black box. The more people started studying it,. the less mystical it became. we realize it's just a serious of reactions. It lost it's mystery.
That same thing is happening with the study of the brain.
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Won't happen.
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depends on the culture. IN the US robots are usually feared. I Japan, the are mostly helpful.
haha... I have read something like that every decade for 4 decades. And you know what? everyone of them was right. GO back 20 years, much of what we do would be considered AI.
Many of the things you work with everyday would be considers AI 20 years ago. But when we figure it out , suddenly it's not AI, it's technical and the goal post moves.
The [problem with AI is people put it into a mystical realm of the 'mind'. Chatbots aren't the only thing that work on AI. Google search, games that adapt to players actions, computers the finish what tyou are typing, and so on. Turing statement are taken way to literal. There are dating sights that can take 20 interaction before you know you are talking to a bot.
Becaseu NASA develpoemnt on lprojects returns money to the tax system. NASA pays for it'self. However, thats done of a long period of time, and not 'we go to mars and bring back gold' time line.
You nede to reevaluate your life,.or reliaxe you are just a person who is a simple cog. Either way is fine, but don't tell my there isn't time for curiosity, becasue you are wrong.
For the record, Single income family, wide two kids. Mortgage's, no car payments any more.
You seriously can't find time to build a volcano with your kids? launch model rockets? find a wooded are, take picture of anything you don't recognize, then use the internet to find out what they are? Model trains? share a minecraft world? learn a language together? learn music? Find something new to do with your family? All the thing I listed you can do by spending an hour or two a week. Have sandwiches for dinner while you do them. Yes, I recognize those thing may not interest you, but find something that does.
Even when I was working 80+hour weeks I always found an hour on the weekend to do something new, or tromp through a park I have never been to.
Make it a priority, put it in your plan. what? you don't have a plan? well make one. Sounds dorky, but plan your week, create two priority lists Have to to/want to do. If you want it, in 6 moths you will be wondering why you didn't have the time before.
I'm sorry if I come off strong, but I am very passionate about this. I sue to to think I didn't have time for that, then my kid want to launch a model rocket. SO I squeezed it it, built a rocket and went to the park. I was busy, I was tired. Let me tell you something, when the rocket launched all the joy of doing things flooded back into me. I realized that even though I am busy, have mortgage, it's all way to short to let it prevent my from doing interesting things. And the interesting things can be done in small doses over long periods.
You work 9-5? what are you doing 7pm-9pm? weekends? Summer is approaching, think about something you want to do, and do it every weekend, even if it's only an hour. or do nothing,. Be a cog in a rut; which is up to you. But remember this: The only difference between a rut and a grave is 5.5 feet.
"The problem is that when the economy takes a negative dip (as it always does) you need to cut things which aren't necessary so you can focus resources on something that really needs it." well then get rid of the tax breaks, and knock defense spending from 980Billion to 960billion. Why is it NASA that always need to be slashed?
not stupid, perse. That just expect the pubs to behave like rational reasonable people. Of course, the Tea party ended the last vestiges of respect and rationality in the pub party. The Dems don't play mean, and when they make a deal, they try to stick to it, ass opposed to using it to stall, and then not do what they said they would do.
Sustainability by your weird definition is a myth, in reality its possible.
"we could let the planet go back to nature" why? W are nature. part and parcel. The irony is if we had the tech to make giant contained building, we wouldn't need other flora and fauna.
"taking this garden of nature down with us." we may take are selves out, and we may do harm. But as long as there is the sun, life will exist on this rock. I prefer humans are included, but even if it isn't, life will flourish, and evolve. Maybe in a billion years, there will be some person looking at rocks returned form the moon trying to figure out why there is aluminum and nylon on them.
IN spite of you overly simple version of some situations in government we have made oasis out of deserts, developed a way to communicate near instantaneously, able to course a large continent in hours, pounded back disease, figured out how to live longer, we have sky scrappers of steel and glass stretching toward the sky, we have access to almost all information and data, we have been to the moon, and have a machine leaving the solar system. We live in a world where a 9 year old blog can change a school system.
" Of course, the answer is, work hard, be smart, take chances and eventually you'll get lucky." sometimes. Sometime it's 'he was born with money' , other times it's 'made millions as bonuses even though they do a crappy job'. There are many reasons. Assume all rich people work hard, are smart, is stupid. Hollywood is filled with rich people who aren't smart, and word a few month out of the year. My kids learned to read and do math in re- K as well. And K, and 1st. All in public schools. My friend has a high schooler learned differential calculus and computer programming in public high school.
BTW the vast majority of private schools are no better then public school.
But you wouldn't no that because you have the bias that is it's government it doesn't work. You are unaware of the fact the 10s of thousands of projects are done by the 'government' every year on time and on budget.
You are completely unaware that government projects have far more success then private project. 90%+. NO large private company has a 90-+% success rate. You don't here about it because they control the PR. You can look at the budgets for the government in your library, and probably online now.
Yes, we need a free market, but there is a hell of a lot more to it then you seem to presume.
". You can not be free until you are responsible for you own actions. " ah. Another person with a completely over simplistic view of the world.
Sure, if I am driving 100 miles an hour and hit a deer? my fault. My responsibilty. Get a tivket for speeding, I pay it becasue I was speed. If I decided to blow off work and got fired, My fault.
However there are a lot of things that can destroy someone life that they had no responsibility in.
Farmers who had there money taken from accounts that were contractually and legally supposed to be isolated from investments. Now they are loosing there farm. Not their fault. Hard working smart person get rear ended by a drunk and now has to spend 30 days in ICE, and will never walk write or turn their head.
There are plenty of things that can put you from hard working successful person to homeless.
"But for the most part, the market should remain free." that's not even in discussion. Of course. The discussion is 'the most part'. How much is that?
"People should be allowed to keep what they earn. " Are you saying people shouldn't be taxed? Because that's pretty ignorant.
"People should be free." We are. What kind of FUD train are you riding?
" People should be allowed to fail." Oh, They are. However having a method for them to stay working is well worth whole.
So, what do you mean by failed? I know plenty of people who ended up taking money and food stamps from the government when the tech bubble burst. I was out ogf work for nine months. That money allowed my to eventually find another tech job and pay taxes back into the system. It allowed me not to have to move in with my inlaws so my kids would at least have a roof.
Now, mathematically, I could have made the same at a fast food place; but I wouldn't have time to see contacts, go to user groups, interviews, and advance my skills. And yes I had been saving, And that was used as well.
", I would get whatever money the school would spend to educate my kid to spend it on the school of my choice. Nothing would be lost from the school as they are NOT TEACHING MY KID" False. See this is the problem. You have no idea what you are talking about, it just seems right.
You no NOTHING about budgets, nothing about maintenance, nothing about the need for a school system anyone can attend.
YOU benefit from those taxes even though your child doesn't attend*. The more people that are educated, the safer, and more productive the social system you participate is. Less crime, more business. you problem the same kind of nincompoop that doesn't understand why government spend can actual make money for the government
Stop thinking everything is like your life.
*I don't know if you know this, but you child has the right to participate in certain activities, even though she goes to a private school.
no, there are many scientific and research projects you could do on the moon. Radio array, optical telescopes, material testing for materials to be used on a mars trip. Many, many others. I'm not sure who these 'most scientists' are you refer to.
I'm sure there are people who would pay 50 million to stay on the moon for a week. Which isn't even close to maintaining the infrastructure, nut it is a source of revenue.
A certain group considers it a waste of money for the government. Ignoring the fact the NASA at it's peak allows billion in revenue to go back to the government. But some people don't want to understand anything about long term payoff, spin-off, and the fact that they create cutting edge industries.
This is what happens when non scientific and ignorant people get equal say how the government works.
And yes, I DO believe people without a fundamental understanding of science shouldn't be allowed to participate in the government. Same with people who can't do intermediate algebra.
This is to get technology so when they get a warrant they can gain access. A warrant to get into the new fizzjingle device does no good if you can't get the data of the new fizjingle device.
They don't want people to know that can now access what had been the super secure fizjingle device.
Completely unreasonable. How about: Lets respect the first moons visitors evidence and equipment?
Or is respect just outside your day to day actions?
NASA is reiterating established treaty law. This has nothing to do with puffing one self up. They see theup tick in the interest n the private sector to go there, so they are respectfully reminding people. No more, no less.
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" it's artificial. It isn't real."
of course it's real. It's not real because we built it in a lab? what a bunch of shit.
Since most of what we consider 'sentience' is actually an illusion the mind creates to give of contiguous context, we only appear to be sentient.
Decisions you make? are far more often made before you even consciously think about them. You memories? can change if the context changes, or if some words a question a certain way. You vision? lots of bits and piece of what is in front of you, the rest made up by the brain.
100 years ago, the stomach was a mystery. No one knew how it worked. it was, in effect, a magical black box. The more people started studying it,. the less mystical it became. we realize it's just a serious of reactions. It lost it's mystery.
That same thing is happening with the study of the brain.
Won't happen.
depends on the culture. IN the US robots are usually feared. I Japan, the are mostly helpful.
A hot sex bot that shoot electricity and sparks when it touches a liquid? hmm wait for version 3.
That a vast, vast assumption.
Would we see another space going species as a pest or virus?
No.
In order to be an infestation, we had to come from somewhere else.
We are just expanding to use available resources, like every other species.
No it wasn't. I would argue that in order to commit homicide, it has to be against your own species. He was..culling.
haha... I have read something like that every decade for 4 decades.
And you know what? everyone of them was right. GO back 20 years, much of what we do would be considered AI.
Yes, but lets put that well written piece of code on a super computer.
The brain process pretty fast, but it's not processing the way you think it does.
That's like saying torque is the same thing as speed.
nice, you manged to make a set that captures all ;possible harm, quantify it, and then let it be used by a robot that can see into the future.
Lets take something simple:
"Robot, turn the power off to my house"
Would it comply?
Many of the things you work with everyday would be considers AI 20 years ago. But when we figure it out , suddenly it's not AI, it's technical and the goal post moves.
The [problem with AI is people put it into a mystical realm of the 'mind'.
Chatbots aren't the only thing that work on AI. Google search, games that adapt to players actions, computers the finish what tyou are typing, and so on.
Turing statement are taken way to literal.
There are dating sights that can take 20 interaction before you know you are talking to a bot.
Man can't fins a good woman! decides its the fault of all American women.
News flash: It's you.
change the defense budget from 980B to 962B
Becaseu NASA develpoemnt on lprojects returns money to the tax system. NASA pays for it'self. However, thats done of a long period of time, and not 'we go to mars and bring back gold' time line.
You nede to reevaluate your life,.or reliaxe you are just a person who is a simple cog.
Either way is fine, but don't tell my there isn't time for curiosity, becasue you are wrong.
For the record, Single income family, wide two kids.
Mortgage's, no car payments any more.
You seriously can't find time to build a volcano with your kids? launch model rockets? find a wooded are, take picture of anything you don't recognize, then use the internet to find out what they are?
Model trains? share a minecraft world? learn a language together? learn music?
Find something new to do with your family? All the thing I listed you can do by spending an hour or two a week. Have sandwiches for dinner while you do them. Yes, I recognize those thing may not interest you, but find something that does.
Even when I was working 80+hour weeks I always found an hour on the weekend to do something new, or tromp through a park I have never been to.
Make it a priority, put it in your plan. what? you don't have a plan? well make one. Sounds dorky, but plan your week, create two priority lists
Have to to/want to do.
If you want it, in 6 moths you will be wondering why you didn't have the time before.
I'm sorry if I come off strong, but I am very passionate about this. I sue to to think I didn't have time for that, then my kid want to launch a model rocket. SO I squeezed it it, built a rocket and went to the park. I was busy, I was tired. Let me tell you something, when the rocket launched all the joy of doing things flooded back into me.
I realized that even though I am busy, have mortgage, it's all way to short to let it prevent my from doing interesting things. And the interesting things can be done in small doses over long periods.
You work 9-5? what are you doing 7pm-9pm? weekends?
Summer is approaching, think about something you want to do, and do it every weekend, even if it's only an hour.
or do nothing,. Be a cog in a rut; which is up to you. But remember this: The only difference between a rut and a grave is 5.5 feet.
"The problem is that when the economy takes a negative dip (as it always does) you need to cut things which aren't necessary so you can focus resources on something that really needs it."
well then get rid of the tax breaks, and knock defense spending from 980Billion to 960billion.
Why is it NASA that always need to be slashed?
not stupid, perse. That just expect the pubs to behave like rational reasonable people. Of course, the Tea party ended the last vestiges of respect and rationality in the pub party.
The Dems don't play mean, and when they make a deal, they try to stick to it, ass opposed to using it to stall, and then not do what they said they would do.
Sustainability by your weird definition is a myth, in reality its possible.
"we could let the planet go back to nature"
why? W are nature. part and parcel. The irony is if we had the tech to make giant contained building, we wouldn't need other flora and fauna.
"taking this garden of nature down with us."
we may take are selves out, and we may do harm. But as long as there is the sun, life will exist on this rock.
I prefer humans are included, but even if it isn't, life will flourish, and evolve. Maybe in a billion years, there will be some person looking at rocks returned form the moon trying to figure out why there is aluminum and nylon on them.
pitiful? pitiful! WRONG SIR.
IN spite of you overly simple version of some situations in government we have made oasis out of deserts, developed a way to communicate near instantaneously, able to course a large continent in hours, pounded back disease, figured out how to live longer, we have sky scrappers of steel and glass stretching toward the sky, we have access to almost all information and data, we have been to the moon, and have a machine leaving the solar system.
We live in a world where a 9 year old blog can change a school system.
We are not pitiful. WE. are. AWESOME!
" Of course, the answer is, work hard, be smart, take chances and eventually you'll get lucky."
sometimes. Sometime it's 'he was born with money' , other times it's 'made millions as bonuses even though they do a crappy job'.
There are many reasons.
Assume all rich people work hard, are smart, is stupid. Hollywood is filled with rich people who aren't smart, and word a few month out of the year.
My kids learned to read and do math in re- K as well. And K, and 1st. All in public schools. My friend has a high schooler learned differential calculus and computer programming in public high school.
BTW the vast majority of private schools are no better then public school.
But you wouldn't no that because you have the bias that is it's government it doesn't work.
You are unaware of the fact the 10s of thousands of projects are done by the 'government' every year on time and on budget.
You are completely unaware that government projects have far more success then private project. 90%+. NO large private company has a 90-+% success rate. You don't here about it because they control the PR. You can look at the budgets for the government in your library, and probably online now.
Yes, we need a free market, but there is a hell of a lot more to it then you seem to presume.
". You can not be free until you are responsible for you own actions. "
ah. Another person with a completely over simplistic view of the world.
Sure, if I am driving 100 miles an hour and hit a deer? my fault. My responsibilty. Get a tivket for speeding, I pay it becasue I was speed. If I decided to blow off work and got fired, My fault.
However there are a lot of things that can destroy someone life that they had no responsibility in.
Farmers who had there money taken from accounts that were contractually and legally supposed to be isolated from investments. Now they are loosing there farm. Not their fault. Hard working smart person get rear ended by a drunk and now has to spend 30 days in ICE, and will never walk write or turn their head.
There are plenty of things that can put you from hard working successful person to homeless.
"But for the most part, the market should remain free."
that's not even in discussion. Of course. The discussion is 'the most part'. How much is that?
"People should be allowed to keep what they earn. "
Are you saying people shouldn't be taxed? Because that's pretty ignorant.
"People should be free."
We are. What kind of FUD train are you riding?
" People should be allowed to fail."
Oh, They are. However having a method for them to stay working is well worth whole.
So, what do you mean by failed?
I know plenty of people who ended up taking money and food stamps from the government when the tech bubble burst. I was out ogf work for nine months. That money allowed my to eventually find another tech job and pay taxes back into the system. It allowed me not to have to move in with my inlaws so my kids would at least have a roof.
Now, mathematically, I could have made the same at a fast food place; but I wouldn't have time to see contacts, go to user groups, interviews, and advance my skills.
And yes I had been saving, And that was used as well.
", I would get whatever money the school would spend to educate my kid to spend it on the school of my choice. Nothing would be lost from the school as they are NOT TEACHING MY KID"
False. See this is the problem. You have no idea what you are talking about, it just seems right.
You no NOTHING about budgets, nothing about maintenance, nothing about the need for a school system anyone can attend.
YOU benefit from those taxes even though your child doesn't attend*. The more people that are educated, the safer, and more productive the social system you participate is. Less crime, more business.
you problem the same kind of nincompoop that doesn't understand why government spend can actual make money for the government
Stop thinking everything is like your life.
*I don't know if you know this, but you child has the right to participate in certain activities, even though she goes to a private school.
no, there are many scientific and research projects you could do on the moon.
Radio array, optical telescopes, material testing for materials to be used on a mars trip.
Many, many others. I'm not sure who these 'most scientists' are you refer to.
I'm sure there are people who would pay 50 million to stay on the moon for a week. Which isn't even close to maintaining the infrastructure, nut it is a source of revenue.
A certain group considers it a waste of money for the government. Ignoring the fact the NASA at it's peak allows billion in revenue to go back to the government. But some people don't want to understand anything about long term payoff, spin-off, and the fact that they create cutting edge industries.
This is what happens when non scientific and ignorant people get equal say how the government works.
And yes, I DO believe people without a fundamental understanding of science shouldn't be allowed to participate in the government.
Same with people who can't do intermediate algebra.
Ironically, if they did it that way you would have more rights, and good avenues from recourse. Unlike the private sector.
Diskworld fan?
You mistake whats going on.
This is to get technology so when they get a warrant they can gain access. A warrant to get into the new fizzjingle device does no good if you can't get the data of the new fizjingle device.
They don't want people to know that can now access what had been the super secure fizjingle device.
Completely unreasonable.
How about: Lets respect the first moons visitors evidence and equipment?
Or is respect just outside your day to day actions?
NASA is reiterating established treaty law. This has nothing to do with puffing one self up. They see theup tick in the interest n the private sector to go there, so they are respectfully reminding people. No more, no less.