1. See, that's the PROBLEM with the private sector. One you can just fire people, you end up with an entrenched attitude of 'Do what I say or else'. Which is fine for a genius like you, but mostly you end up with a high turn over rate.
Making it difficult mean people can speak up. They can tell a bureau chief why they are wrong and not get fired. THIS is what bring quality, depth of knowledge, and honest opinions and view out into the open.
Contrary to what a lot of people thing, it isn't impossible to fire someone. It make take time, becasue they treat their employees like that are human beings
2. the wages aren't horrible. I could make 30% more in the private sector, but my benis are solid, and I like having a life.
The rest of your post is just ignorant. I've seen peopel get fired. It went like this
1) Bad review with detailed list of whats wrong* I've seen people change the work attitude at this point and become better employees.
2) Verbal warning after 3 months. *again,. seen poeple change at this point
3) written warning - never seen anyone recover from here
4) out the door. 3-6 months, and this includes union.
What really helps is the 9 months grace period. Frankly, if you are lazy, you won't make it 9 months without the become obvious.
Did you read the report? no, of course you didn't. Unless you are explaining the code developed by the private sector for the government is marginal more buggy? And the the study is worth a damn.
I work for a government agency. You're whole description sound a hell of a lot more accurate to my experience in the private sector then the public sector.
Anecdotal experiences: Two Tales...
Private sector: One time I got called on the carpet because I didn't list the names in my email address list in the 'appropriate order'. Putting a middle management person before the VP.. what nerve I have. I have many takes of correcting someone and being labels trouble maker. The financial sector sucks eggs.
Public sector: Told a Bureaus head he was wrong, listed why. He Thanks me for speaking up and saving them from an expensive mistake.
" One is that all government code is outsourced, actually its not. um, no most of it is. And in my experience, at the end of the day it's more expensive then keeping staff on hand.
Interesting, Me experience is quite the opposite. Results make the next position you apply for more likely to look at you. When you can get shit down,l people know and don't hire you, and eventual you position will be cut.
Many, not most. And for a great many of them it makes sense. Note: cost plus does not equal zero oversight. Just so you know.
Lets take a 5 year project on a piece of highway.
Seems pretty straight forward right? Did you know the price of rock could double in that time period? or be cut ijn half? rock turns out to be more volatile then one would expect.
And that's just one component. IO unusually bad year can delay, fuel prices changes and so on. Now, I know the media doesn't report this side of it, but sometime cost-plus has ended cheaper then estimated.
Eliminating cost plus will make thing more expense, and the results won't be any different. Remember, we are talking about huge projects here. Many years. If you want a straight price bid, it means every bid would be 50% more then they are now, AND there would be more incentive for the contractor to screw you.
where the p[people don't realize the 'government' isn't one group, one set of funds, or one set of guideline.
Oh wait? they sell a product? and don't release the details of said study? Maybe they do understand why a general grab at the generic label 'Government' makes for a misleading results.
"receives no government subsidy" yes they do. Who do you think backed the loans so the can build the infrastructure? Who paid for the 911 services? AT&T is a phone company. They get subsidies. Good luck showing the the Cell portion of the corporation in no way got an advantage from any subsidy to any other portion of the company.
This happened the moment they got hard drives. The advantages to consoles used to be: Always worked, no patching required. dedicated to games, Cheap enough to not really be concerned when they are outdated in 3 years, and Easy to set up an maintain..is in plug in and forget.
All of that is now gone from all the consoles except the Wii. At the same time, they have NONE of the advantages of a PC. Open, configurable, 3rd party mods, quicker response, and you can move your character in tighter circles.
Then developing for each console, and the PC? PITA.
Will there be a machine of some sort in the living room? yes, but that doesn't make it a console in the traditional sense.
" So if 1000 doses given to one mouse causes cancer, then it's likely that 1 dose given to each of 1000 people will cause one case of cancer."
wrong. god, so wrong.
a) you need to dring 1000 cans to get to the min. FDA dos, which is 225. b)The dosage where an effect was seen in a rat was 1250, 5000 ppm c)Coca-cola has.4 ppm.
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1. See, that's the PROBLEM with the private sector. One you can just fire people, you end up with an entrenched attitude of 'Do what I say or else'. Which is fine for a genius like you, but mostly you end up with a high turn over rate.
Making it difficult mean people can speak up. They can tell a bureau chief why they are wrong and not get fired. THIS is what bring quality, depth of knowledge, and honest opinions and view out into the open.
Contrary to what a lot of people thing, it isn't impossible to fire someone. It make take time, becasue they treat their employees like that are human beings
2. the wages aren't horrible. I could make 30% more in the private sector, but my benis are solid, and I like having a life.
The rest of your post is just ignorant. I've seen peopel get fired. It went like this
1) Bad review with detailed list of whats wrong* I've seen people change the work attitude at this point and become better employees.
2) Verbal warning after 3 months. *again,. seen poeple change at this point
3) written warning - never seen anyone recover from here
4) out the door. 3-6 months, and this includes union.
What really helps is the 9 months grace period. Frankly, if you are lazy, you won't make it 9 months without the become obvious.
Did you read the report? no, of course you didn't. Unless you are explaining the code developed by the private sector for the government is marginal more buggy? And the the study is worth a damn.
I work for a government agency. You're whole description sound a hell of a lot more accurate to my experience in the private sector then the public sector.
Anecdotal experiences: Two Tales...
Private sector:
One time I got called on the carpet because I didn't list the names in my email address list in the 'appropriate order'. Putting a middle management person before the VP.. what nerve I have. I have many takes of correcting someone and being labels trouble maker. The financial sector sucks eggs.
Public sector:
Told a Bureaus head he was wrong, listed why. He Thanks me for speaking up and saving them from an expensive mistake.
That speaks volumes to your CS grads....
No it isn't. Please stop spreading your crap on everyone's toast.
" One is that all government code is outsourced, actually its not.
um, no most of it is. And in my experience, at the end of the day it's more expensive then keeping staff on hand.
Interesting, Me experience is quite the opposite. Results make the next position you apply for more likely to look at you.
When you can get shit down,l people know and don't hire you, and eventual you position will be cut.
Many, not most. And for a great many of them it makes sense. Note: cost plus does not equal zero oversight. Just so you know.
Lets take a 5 year project on a piece of highway.
Seems pretty straight forward right?
Did you know the price of rock could double in that time period? or be cut ijn half? rock turns out to be more volatile then one would expect.
And that's just one component. IO unusually bad year can delay, fuel prices changes and so on.
Now, I know the media doesn't report this side of it, but sometime cost-plus has ended cheaper then estimated.
Eliminating cost plus will make thing more expense, and the results won't be any different.
Remember, we are talking about huge projects here. Many years. If you want a straight price bid, it means every bid would be 50% more then they are now, AND there would be more incentive for the contractor to screw you.
Instead of agreeing because it confirms to your bias, look at where this 'study; comes from.
And the divsion of responsibilities in a government agency's is a strength, not a flaw.
where the p[people don't realize the 'government' isn't one group, one set of funds, or one set of guideline.
Oh wait? they sell a product? and don't release the details of said study? Maybe they do understand why a general grab at the generic label 'Government' makes for a misleading results.
"receives no government subsidy"
yes they do. Who do you think backed the loans so the can build the infrastructure? Who paid for the 911 services?
AT&T is a phone company. They get subsidies. Good luck showing the the Cell portion of the corporation in no way got an advantage from any subsidy to any other portion of the company.
Yes, nearly. Anyone who considers it a depression doesn't really know what a depression is...hell, it wasn't even as bad as the early 80's.
The rest od you post is also based on FUD and ignorance.
The desktop is dead.
count RnD as waste because it doesn't provide immediate results, news at 11.
Consoles are BECOMING PCs.
This happened the moment they got hard drives.
The advantages to consoles used to be:
Always worked, no patching required.
dedicated to games,
Cheap enough to not really be concerned when they are outdated in 3 years, and
Easy to set up an maintain..is in plug in and forget.
All of that is now gone from all the consoles except the Wii. At the same time, they have NONE of the advantages of a PC.
Open, configurable, 3rd party mods, quicker response, and you can move your character in tighter circles.
Then developing for each console, and the PC? PITA.
Will there be a machine of some sort in the living room? yes, but that doesn't make it a console in the traditional sense.
Not if they train. I don't say uh in conversation, but then I give a crap about communicating.
it's 2012. It is not only no longer 'shocking' or 'amazing' that women are gamers, it's not even relevant.
GTFU
" I have with Metro is that it's so hard to organize things."
what? You will be able to organize things.
Like A lot of MS item in the last 5 years, there pretty good..but MS doesn't utilize them well. Like pinning everything to the start
Man, so many people went on and on on how the Start button sucked, they would never use it and it was the downfall of MS.
Heh.
Why do you need a little round thing in the corner to click on for the sole person of being able to click on something else?
It's an advantage to corporate customers. On platform on ALL devices and computers.
"Metro on the desktop is a goddamned failure."
That's not true by any metric..
You are the one stuck into cult thinking.
Which version did YOU beta? and on what platform?
Why do you need it? Meaning, what function does it provide? Because the MB may be gone, but what it does is still there.
Think about it.
So If I had the option to change the interface on the OSX would be a bad OS?
You just don't like change, and assume MS is going to be bad.
I've used it. I like it. I also use OSX and iOS. I like them as well.
Now, what I don't like is what they did you it on the xBox. Used it to shove ads at you in the squares.
Because phones, tables and kiosks are common. There are more screens being used in smart phones and tablet then there are with 'traditional PC'.
Maybe I should ask "Why should MS make the minority of ways to view the OS a high priority?"
Plus that great desk in Tron was touch screen.
"Try doing that with an iPad."
there was nothing in the video you can't do with an iPad.
Great example.
" So if 1000 doses given to one mouse causes cancer, then it's likely that 1 dose given to each of 1000 people will cause one case of cancer."
wrong. god, so wrong.
a) you need to dring 1000 cans to get to the min. FDA dos, which is 225. .4 ppm.
b)The dosage where an effect was seen in a rat was 1250, 5000 ppm
c)Coca-cola has
and stochastic means non-deterministic.