blah blah.. it's about pipelines, and modern CPU's have super scalar designs, so you have multiple instructins being executed (perhaps different parts of the instruction or (if there are multiple integer units, as most desktop cpus have) they can both be running the integer part of the execution.
The problem is with branching, (eg: you have a "if ()" in the code). Should the CPU go down this path or the other? The CPU uses branch prediction to guess which path to go down. It will never get it right all the time.
Now forget about all that, is it's off point: two CPU's are about doing two things at once. Your one CPU will not be able to 1) Decode MP3's and 2) Draw to X at the same time. They are different programs, different representations to the CPU, thus not in the pipeline at the same time and never executed at the same time.
With a single CPU you could always get mp3 to skip (unless you make it realtime). With multiple CPU's you are in good shape, one thread cannot bother both CPU's at the same time, no skipping MP3's...
That's why I'm trying to hold out for two CPU's 8)
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
If there is in fact a problem, FSF will move their stuff quickly over to the new LICENSE. most GPL licensed software (which doesn't take copyright assignments) will have a problem moving over, especially if they didn't have this control. The battle begins if FSF feels that they aren't winning fast enough, and take GPL towards a more anti-propriertary interest (as opposed to an anti-software-proprietary interest). RMS has said that he disapproves of most proprietary stuff, and Bruce Perens constantly argues for ASPs turning over their GPL mods, even though they don't distribute it, and people getting around GPL by using GPL apps as remote objects (therby turning them into LGPL like).
Although RMS doesn't say he's for it, the way all these people were against amazon's one click patent (which wasn't a software patent, but a business process patent executed in software) I wouldn't be surprised that they do something soon.
I'm not a anti-GPL, but I do have concerns about were they are going. The people who are major GPL heads seem so frustrated even though the GNU OS is getting more usable, and code is more open everyday.
This site is soo stupid, as to hurt linux. There is no mention of the LSB effort. Linux needs a package format, and RPM is good. Before you freak out, the debian people agree, follow the LSB mailing lists, and find out why (basically, RPM's will be converted to native install format like deb), it's just so that the package format will be a superset of what all distro's need.
This stupid site makes no mention of LSB, or of anything. RedHat has done a lot for the community, and stupid campaings like this will not solve anything.. A focused effort like LSB which has distro makers support does. Unfortunetely LSB isn't as focused as it should be, but it remains that this lame campaign will never have any effect.
This wasn't a troll!!! it was an honest question... all the linux sites seem to be covering this stuff... I even pitched in with a link to an underated music app that I use.
Are moderators little kids? or are they the real trolls...
this has two effects: 1) Make opengroup poorer. The cdsa is the midlayer that opengroup sells for gss implementation (amoung cdsa's functionality). So intel takes it away from them and gives it to us directly. Thats good, because opengroup is really closedgroup. Look, just six months into having X and they tried to close it, until they reliezed XFree86 is deployed more then all of their members combined (suckers). 2) Provide gss on linux. Look at mozilla, they needed crypto, so they're using psm from sun (available from iplanet). PSM is closed source.
cdsa is amounth other things a gss impletmentation. GSS is an API for security for applications. encryption authorization and authentication stuff. middleware for crypto is important, as you need to be able to move on to new crypto at a sota pace, and programmers shouldn't need to get all twisted/confust in lots of different API for security (it'd hardly make it more secure if coders coded wrong). GSS isn't pam, they are different spaces. PAM is for ostools vendors with control given to system admins. gss/cdsa are for application developers.
Imagine if cdsa came out under a good opensource license (btw the osd is too generous, as we have bad "opensource" licenses), and we could add openssl and friends when RSA patent expires (in 5 months). mozilla's cryoto would be completely opensource, and linux can be used more for large corporations which would use this type of stuff.
The stuff opengroup provides a checklist for what businesses want (not that we want motif).
That's it. I'm talking out my ass, but I think this is pretty correct. Anyone disagree?
There is no way around this, this is just as secure as the bsd way, except that you don't get logged attempts to run su (cause the user cannot run su if they aren't in wheel).
Make a phone call if your classmate is acting sketchy?
There isn't any talk of hunting down the geeks or anything like that. Making a call on a buddy isn't made easier or anything. This "program" is just what exists in any school today, but now it's a stated and promoted program.
It's not just for classmates, but for parents and teachers. Should these people not get involved?
You know I feel bad for some of the geeks (whatever) that got persecuted after Columbine, but there wasn't a fair context given. Those people are emotional, young, and Jon was looking to hype the whole thing.
Parents have lost track of their kids, and need to start getting involved again. If someone calls them up and says their kid is depressed cause the kid is d/l too much porn off the net, then wtf is wrong with that?
Or is it, the kids are smarter then the parents, parents just don't understand. whatever.. Does Jon have a kid? Would you tell you kid to tell you about classmates that are depressed? kids with weapons? What would you do if you knew about you kids classmates?
And the last piece of bs is when Jon said this is unconstitutional (at least if applied towards adults)? HOW DUMB TO YOU WANT TO BE TODAY JON? There is no law allowing anonymous tips, just what you do with this info. They didn't say what they would do with the information. JON STOP FSCKING HYPING YOUR STORIES WITH EXAGERATIONS, ITS PATHETIC.
1) With LSB basically making life easier for software VARs (loki, oracle, etc.), gnome and kde need to have a common application setup (menu entries, etc). How close are we to that?
2) the gnome faq states that most libraries are under lgpl. Does this mean that some are GPL?? This really scares me. I think that if too many GPL libraries get out there, then linux will fail, and fast. If there are some, can we make it clear which ones they are?
RMS offers good reasons for GPL'ing libraries, but look what we end up with: No commercial apps use readline, which sucks for us users, and companies would probably fear linking against GPL libraries, in a what if posibility. IMHO, GPL libraries is the mess that get's people calling GPL viral.
It's still there, but they don't want people to know... If they had really lost it, there would have been much more of an investigation.
They leek stuff like this report, to give more creedance to the fact that its gone, when in fact it's probably giving the USA some super advantage in bio warfare or something.
Think about it, no wreakage? was there any explination? Nasa didn't seem so upset when it was "lost" so people were catching on, so they throw out that they knew, then people would think that, and they have.
I don't know if stab is part of their plan (fake being upset), or just a sucker.
I don't know the circumstances of this, but are you suggesting that you push a product that doesn't have little things like transactions?
I guess it depends on the specifics of the situation you describe, but it sounds like mySQL just didn't fit the bill. I don't ever recommend free software in the business, only better software. if it happens to be free then so be it. If you actually think that mySQL has enough capabilities for serious applications, you are living in the future when it may, but it doesn't have it now.
The potential is for less profits, and the publishers know this. Jon Katz knows this too. That is why, he said nothing about what could be done.
summing up what katz said: by definition, the publishing industry cannot do anything right.
he detaches interactivity from technology, and then uses the internet to define interactivity?!?
And then, finishes with a desire to see a publishing company rethinking itself??? AOl/Time Warner? don't you think that time warner is wondering how they got snapped up by a very sucessful "interactiviy" company. and how they will have to change.
I'd like katz to make a business case for whatever it is he thinks companies should do. Hell, I'd like it if he was consistent. He knows that there isn't a better business model out there..
The publishing industry has at least five years on top other media types (movies/radio/news/music) as it's the highest barriers of entry. They will sit back, see what the other industries do, and _NOT_ listen to Katz...
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screw eros..capabilities are coming to linux, journaling is coming to linux.
Here's a cool scenerio: goto machine a, Do work. Click Save State. goto machine b, click retrieve, it comes back
does eros do this? does eros strieve to do this? no, it has to be done on an application programming level. If I get my OS in rom, my files on a server, and my application wrapped in corba beans saving my data (and session) to the server, why do I care if my OS supports any of eros's features. if eros actually wanted to integrate at the application programming level (ie: with gnome), then all this would be useful. You do not require a different OS, period. The _only_ need for a new OS (ie: kernel) is when the hardware is radically different. We don't have that situation occuring right now, and not for quite some time.
So, pick your OS, have fun with it, speed, reliability and hardware support (and open source;) are the only requirements of it. everything else can be added.
2 Spielberg To Direct New Kubrick Movie by emmett on 09:43 AM March 15th, 2000 EDT 94 2 Spielberg to direct Kubrick's AI by Hemos on 09:00 AM September 7th, 1999 EDT 144
hmmm... they cannot remember, and don't know that they can search?
Wow, times have changed since I've gone to highschool.. Not that long ago, and everyone thinks this is Intel's award. They are just footing the bill (perhaps more).
I think the only flaw of patents, if they are used to create a barrier to entry (ie: monopolies).
They have been good to many inventors around the world. Software patents, being mostly a barrier to entry (why is gimp not as good as it could be with print media, patents), are wrong.
But, I really don't care if business patents create barriers of entry to for that area. The days of mom and pop stores are closing, as middlemen get squeezed in all industries. To succeed, you must differentiate yourself in another way. Is fatbrain out of business cause of this patent? Do we really want to defend B&N who likes to hide 2600 magz?
Please.. Think about your opinion of patents, and try to evaluate this patent. This is not a software patent, so I don't mind it. How do you feel?
It could be worse, everyone could be going to that site with all the "forward/delayed post" stuff. hey. password protect devel, or restrict DNS dumps... if you care
This patent is an innovation in commerce, not software design. I cannot see how we are supposed to feel sorry for corporations that Amazon.com got this patent first.
The days of the mom and pop store are dead, and not because of patents like this. Even if this patent were enforced against smaller stores, it would make no difference to their success. The smaller stores need to differentiate themselves in a different way to succeed. Industries that depend on consumer purchases have started to weed out the high margin middlemen. Larger corporations and scaling up the supply chain, until companies start selling direct to consumers.
I'm against software patents, but the more time I look at this, the more I see that this patent doesn't effect me at all. As a software developer or as a consumer.
The whole technology was created because of flawed design of applications on windows:
First, instead of installing an application once, and users may not write it, every user get's their own installation of a software package.
So, instead of fixing that problem, they fix the resulting disk space problem, and to top it off, they create "self healing" operating systems and applications so that if the user damages it (read: some buggy software screws it up), it can reinstall itself.
Linux has something for that. It's called, users cannot write to applications, and keep a backup of all the.rpm's/.deb's that you install. End of problem.
Are you saying that netscape doesn't realize that people are not using redhat 4.2?
Please, there are many issues going into a moving a platform of a huge app, then just recompile.
Forget all that, let's put it like this: would you rather them fix 4.x or fix mozilla?
go to fortify to secure your browser, and for a kick, plug into: tool!
No it's wouldn't have served them well.
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The iMac is an amazing industry accomplishment. They've completely moved from an old industry architecture to a new one. Do you have any legacy components left?
And they are price competative.
There are only a few "one stop shops" left...sun/apple/console market but there value is strong. I don't see their ability to innovate increased if they had licensed out their rom. ken
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blah blah.. it's about pipelines, and modern CPU's have super scalar designs, so you have multiple instructins being executed (perhaps different parts of the instruction or (if there are multiple integer units, as most desktop cpus have) they can both be running the integer part of the execution.
The problem is with branching, (eg: you have a "if ()" in the code). Should the CPU go down this path or the other? The CPU uses branch prediction to guess which path to go down. It will never get it right all the time.
Now forget about all that, is it's off point: two CPU's are about doing two things at once. Your one CPU will not be able to 1) Decode MP3's and 2) Draw to X at the same time. They are different programs, different representations to the CPU, thus not in the pipeline at the same time and never executed at the same time.
With a single CPU you could always get mp3 to skip (unless you make it realtime). With multiple CPU's you are in good shape, one thread cannot bother both CPU's at the same time, no skipping MP3's...
That's why I'm trying to hold out for two CPU's 8)
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
If there is in fact a problem, FSF will move their stuff quickly over to the new LICENSE. most GPL licensed software (which doesn't take copyright assignments) will have a problem moving over, especially if they didn't have this control. The battle begins if FSF feels that they aren't winning fast enough, and take GPL towards a more anti-propriertary interest (as opposed to an anti-software-proprietary interest). RMS has said that he disapproves of most proprietary stuff, and Bruce Perens constantly argues for ASPs turning over their GPL mods, even though they don't distribute it, and people getting around GPL by using GPL apps as remote objects (therby turning them into LGPL like).
Although RMS doesn't say he's for it, the way all these people were against amazon's one click patent (which wasn't a software patent, but a business process patent executed in software) I wouldn't be surprised that they do something soon.
I'm not a anti-GPL, but I do have concerns about were they are going. The people who are major GPL heads seem so frustrated even though the GNU OS is getting more usable, and code is more open everyday.
This site is soo stupid, as to hurt linux.
There is no mention of the LSB effort. Linux
needs a package format, and RPM is good. Before
you freak out, the debian people agree, follow
the LSB mailing lists, and find out why (basically, RPM's will be converted to native
install format like deb), it's just so that the
package format will be a superset of what all distro's need.
This stupid site makes no mention of LSB, or
of anything. RedHat has done a lot for the community, and stupid campaings like this will not solve anything.. A focused effort like LSB which
has distro makers support does. Unfortunetely LSB isn't as focused as it should be, but it remains that this lame campaign will never have any effect.
Thanks for listening.
This wasn't a troll!!! it was an honest question... all the linux sites seem to be covering this stuff... I even pitched in with a link to an underated music app that I use.
Are moderators little kids? or are they the real trolls...
okay. granted, and I don't know if cdsa would help out mozilla, either.
but looking at the faq here it says that all the code isn't there. I guess that is only the actual encryption and not anything else?
this has two effects:
1) Make opengroup poorer. The cdsa is the midlayer that opengroup sells for gss implementation (amoung cdsa's functionality). So intel takes it away from them and gives it to us directly. Thats good, because opengroup is really closedgroup. Look, just six months into having X and they tried to close it, until they reliezed XFree86 is deployed more then all of their members combined (suckers).
2) Provide gss on linux. Look at mozilla, they needed crypto, so they're using psm from sun (available from iplanet). PSM is closed source.
cdsa is amounth other things a gss impletmentation. GSS is an API for security for applications. encryption authorization and authentication stuff. middleware for crypto is important, as you need to be able to move on to new crypto at a sota pace, and programmers shouldn't need to get all twisted/confust in lots of different API for security (it'd hardly make it more secure if coders coded wrong). GSS isn't pam, they are different spaces. PAM is for ostools vendors with control given to system admins. gss/cdsa are for application developers.
Imagine if cdsa came out under a good opensource license (btw the osd is too generous, as we have bad "opensource" licenses), and we could add openssl and friends when RSA patent expires (in 5 months). mozilla's cryoto would be completely opensource, and linux can be used more for large corporations which would use this type of stuff.
The stuff opengroup provides a checklist for what businesses want (not that we want motif).
That's it. I'm talking out my ass, but I think this is pretty correct. Anyone disagree?
There is no way around this, this is just as secure as the bsd way, except that you don't get logged attempts to run su (cause the user cannot run su if they aren't in wheel).
off of lkml, right here
Is _wtf_ is this program trying todo:
Turn in you weapon carrying classmates?
Make a phone call if your classmate is acting sketchy?
There isn't any talk of hunting down the geeks or anything like that. Making a call on a buddy isn't made easier or anything. This "program" is just what exists in any school today, but now it's a stated and promoted program.
It's not just for classmates, but for parents and teachers. Should these people not get involved?
You know I feel bad for some of the geeks (whatever) that got persecuted after Columbine, but there wasn't a fair context given. Those people are emotional, young, and Jon was looking to hype the whole thing.
Parents have lost track of their kids, and need to start getting involved again. If someone calls them up and says their kid is depressed cause the kid is d/l too much porn off the net, then wtf is wrong with that?
Or is it, the kids are smarter then the parents, parents just don't understand. whatever.. Does Jon have a kid? Would you tell you kid to tell you about classmates that are depressed? kids with weapons? What would you do if you knew about you kids classmates?
And the last piece of bs is when Jon said this is unconstitutional (at least if applied towards adults)? HOW DUMB TO YOU WANT TO BE TODAY JON? There is no law allowing anonymous tips, just what you do with this info. They didn't say what they would do with the information. JON STOP FSCKING HYPING YOUR STORIES WITH EXAGERATIONS, ITS PATHETIC.
1) With LSB basically making life easier for software VARs (loki, oracle, etc.), gnome and kde need to have a common application setup (menu entries, etc). How close are we to that?
2) the gnome faq states that most libraries are under lgpl. Does this mean that some are GPL?? This really scares me. I think that if too many GPL libraries get out there, then linux will fail, and fast. If there are some, can we make it clear which ones they are?
RMS offers good reasons for GPL'ing libraries, but look what we end up with: No commercial apps use readline, which sucks for us users, and companies would probably fear linking against GPL libraries, in a what if posibility. IMHO, GPL libraries is the mess that get's people calling GPL viral.
It's still there, but they don't want people to know... If they had really lost it, there would have been much more of an investigation.
They leek stuff like this report, to give more creedance to the fact that its gone, when in fact it's probably giving the USA some super advantage in bio warfare or something.
Think about it, no wreakage? was there any explination? Nasa didn't seem so upset when it was "lost" so people were catching on, so they throw out that they knew, then people would think that, and they have.
I don't know if stab is part of their plan (fake being upset), or just a sucker.
I don't know the circumstances of this, but are you suggesting that you push a product that doesn't have little things like transactions?
I guess it depends on the specifics of the situation you describe, but it sounds like mySQL just didn't fit the bill. I don't ever recommend free software in the business, only better software. if it happens to be free then so be it. If you actually think that mySQL has enough capabilities for serious applications, you are living in the future when it may, but it doesn't have it now.
check the press release here. And like I said when the article was rejected, it's not opensource but at least it's not crippleware.
I think it's a shame though, as the backend of mysql seems to be much worse then postgreSQL.
The potential is for less profits, and the publishers know this. Jon Katz knows this too. That is why, he said nothing about what could be done.
summing up what katz said: by definition, the publishing industry cannot do anything right.
he detaches interactivity from technology, and then uses the internet to define interactivity?!?
And then, finishes with a desire to see a publishing company rethinking itself??? AOl/Time Warner? don't you think that time warner is wondering how they got snapped up by a very sucessful "interactiviy" company. and how they will have to change.
I'd like katz to make a business case for whatever it is he thinks companies should do. Hell, I'd like it if he was consistent. He knows that there isn't a better business model out there..
The publishing industry has at least five years on top other media types (movies/radio/news/music) as it's the highest barriers of entry. They will sit back, see what the other industries do, and _NOT_ listen to Katz...
screw eros..capabilities are coming to linux, journaling is coming to linux.
Here's a cool scenerio:
goto machine a, Do work. Click Save State.
goto machine b, click retrieve, it comes back
does eros do this? does eros strieve to do this? no, it has to be done on an application programming level. If I get my OS in rom, my files on a server, and my application wrapped in corba beans saving my data (and session) to the server, why do I care if my OS supports any of eros's features. if eros actually wanted to integrate at the application programming level (ie: with gnome), then all this would be useful. You do not require a different OS, period. The _only_ need for a new OS (ie: kernel) is when the hardware is radically different. We don't have that situation occuring right now, and not for quite some time.
So, pick your OS, have fun with it, speed, reliability and hardware support (and open source;) are the only requirements of it. everything else can be added.
2 Spielberg To Direct New Kubrick Movie by emmett on 09:43 AM March 15th, 2000 EDT 94
2 Spielberg to direct Kubrick's AI by Hemos on 09:00 AM September 7th, 1999 EDT 144
hmmm... they cannot remember, and don't know that they can search?
Guess it's a slow news day.
Wow, times have changed since I've gone to highschool.. Not that long ago, and everyone thinks this is Intel's award. They are just footing the bill (perhaps more).
Please people, are you against all patents?
I think the only flaw of patents, if they are used to create a barrier to entry (ie: monopolies).
They have been good to many inventors around the world. Software patents, being mostly a barrier to entry (why is gimp not as good as it could be with print media, patents), are wrong.
But, I really don't care if business patents create barriers of entry to for that area. The days of mom and pop stores are closing, as middlemen get squeezed in all industries. To succeed, you must differentiate yourself in another way. Is fatbrain out of business cause of this patent? Do we really want to defend B&N who likes to hide 2600 magz?
Please.. Think about your opinion of patents, and try to evaluate this patent. This is not a software patent, so I don't mind it. How do you feel?
They ended up pulling the clearance of the van driver (a serious career limiting move)
Why does this guy need clearance to drive a van?
Will Dominoes not hire this delivery boy cause he lost his TopSecret(tm) clearance? Does this mean he won't make truck driver?
hey: maybe it's here:
n cebert.linuxpower.org/
href="http://lancebert.linuxpower.org/">http://la
It could be worse, everyone could be going to that site with all the "forward/delayed post" stuff. hey. password protect devel, or restrict DNS dumps... if you care
This patent is an innovation in commerce, not software design. I cannot see how we are supposed to feel sorry for corporations that Amazon.com got this patent first.
The days of the mom and pop store are dead, and not because of patents like this. Even if this patent were enforced against smaller stores, it would make no difference to their success. The smaller stores need to differentiate themselves in a different way to succeed. Industries that depend on consumer purchases have started to weed out the high margin middlemen. Larger corporations and scaling up the supply chain, until companies start selling direct to consumers.
I'm against software patents, but the more time I look at this, the more I see that this patent doesn't effect me at all. As a software developer or as a consumer.
The whole technology was created because of flawed design of applications on windows:
.rpm's/.deb's that you install. End of problem.
First, instead of installing an application once, and users may not write it, every user get's their own installation of a software package.
So, instead of fixing that problem, they fix the resulting disk space problem, and to top it off, they create "self healing" operating systems and applications so that if the user damages it (read: some buggy software screws it up), it can reinstall itself.
Linux has something for that. It's called, users cannot write to applications, and keep a backup of all the
Read here. Randy is the "maintainer" for linux-usb. I believe that this slashdot article was rushed out too early.
Are you suggesting that there is no difference?
Are you saying that netscape doesn't realize that people are not using redhat 4.2?
Please, there are many issues going into a moving a platform of a huge app, then just recompile.
Forget all that, let's put it like this: would you rather them fix 4.x or fix mozilla?
go to fortify to secure your browser, and for a kick, plug into: tool!
The iMac is an amazing industry accomplishment. They've completely moved from an old industry architecture to a new one. Do you have any legacy components left?
And they are price competative.
There are only a few "one stop shops" left...sun/apple/console market but there value is strong. I don't see their ability to innovate increased if they had licensed out their rom. ken