Well, the important thing here is that since an offensive place like/r/coontown didn't like Ellen Pao, that means that nobody else had any valid criticisms and everybody who wanted her gone is a misogynist racist. Probably heteronormative Christian cis-scum, too. Am I right?
That aside, there will be a handful of robotic cars on the roads as opposed to many thousands of manned cars. You're statistically unlikely to even see a robotic car, let alone get in a collision with one.
I would imagine that, in the event of an emergency, it's programmed to come to a complete stop and call the authorities, then wait for user intervention.
That's probably not an issue, though, because: 1) Google's car already has multiple cameras recording everything that are much better than whatever you would have. 2) The drivers in the car would take control in the event of an emergency, anyway. 3) Google's car probably has individual components that are more expensive than your entire car, and there's no reason they wouldn't file an insurance claim to cover it (and do their best to ensure you're found at fault). 4) The odds of a robotic car colliding with you are miniscule compared to a manned vehicle.
No, several years ago there was an article posted by Bonk that consisted entirely of a picture of a snake that was eating its own tail. That one was the worst.
There are already many people who have children even though they don't want them. Cultural pressure, accidents, and ignorance about contraception all lead to people having and keeping children that they would have never chosen to have. Being immortal won't stop those things from happening, unfortunately.
Not to mention the small segments of society who feel like it's their religious duty to have as many children as possible -- won't it be great when a 300-year-old woman can keep having a new child every year, and all of her children keep having children, too?
Is all of that for an entry-level job, though? Most college CompSci degrees that I've seen don't even touch things like smart pointers, newer language standards, or boost. I've seen several fresh college graduates who have never used exceptions because one of their professors told them that exceptions are evil and you should never use them, and I've even seen a few who thought that Notepad was an acceptable IDE because their lab computers still had Visual Studio 6 installed on them, and they were at least smart enough to realize that VS6 was terrible, but didn't know there were other options available.
To be fair, pure CS isn't really about programming, but "entry-level" is still a very low bar.
I'm not convinced Android belongs in any vehicle, given the security issues.
What security issues are you talking about? How would they affect a vehicle? Are you thinking of specific security issues with the particular firmware Hyundai is using, or are you making generalizations based on other versions of Android?
Am I wrong.
That statement is vague enough that it's not even possible to tell whether you're right or wrong.
(unless she's a drug addict or something, then *maybe* - only maybe - the father might get custody)
Nope. I know a guy who is divorced; he's a perfectly decent guy, has a steady job, and loves his daughter, but is only allowed to see her for a few weeks a year. His ex-wife is a jobless drug addict who depends on her new husband for income, and she's even shown up to court high before. But she gets custody of their daughter, because she's female and therefore is obviously a better caretaker.
Because you have to work to eat! Anybody who works less than 40 hours a week is a freeloader who doesn't deserve a dime. I'm not paying taxes to the government so that it can feed and clothe people who are too lazy to get full-time jobs! They can starve to death in the streets if they're not willing to work hard enough to get a college education after we've automated away all of the unskilled labor.
* Note: I personally do not agree with that line of thought, but that is how a lot of people, including politicians, feel.
Ever notice how much skill is involved making those tight turns?
The funny thing is, so much of that skill is necessarily because a mere human has very limited awareness of the space and obstacles around such a large vehicle. It requires a lot of intuition and practice for a human to be able to do that reliably... but not so much for a vehicle with a couple of LIDAR units and stereo cameras that knows exactly where everything around it is to within a few centimeters and can use a pathfinding algorithm to figure out the most efficient way to maneuver into a given position.
Sometimes the trucks have to move over into the left lane just to get turned to the right. Will a computer-controlled rig do that?
Yes, why wouldn't they be able to? Lane detection and predicting how wide an arc you need to turn are easy.
And sometimes even the most skilled driver gets his rig into a spot where he has to back up several times and try again and again. Can a computer even come close to that kind of skill?
Yes, and because they can calculate the exact angle they need to turn at and how far they need to move, they'll be able to do it much more efficiently than a skilled human driver.
Can a computer back a truck into the dock behind your local supermarket when space is barely available to maneuver? Even some truck drivers wince at doing that.
Yep. Again, the reason it's hard for a human driver is only because they don't have persistent knowledge of the world around their vehicle and the ability to predict exactly how the vehicle will respond to any given input.
I get the notion that whoever comes up with these hair-brained ideas hasn't.
I get the notion that the people who spend five minutes thinking about things they think will be hard for autonomous vehicles to do and then post it on Slashdot don't realize that there are teams of people who have been working on these problems for well over a decade now.
The hard things for vehicles to deal with are poor terrain (like an old dirt road overgrown with tall grass, or a road completely covered in snow) and unpredictable human drivers. The logistics of "how do I maneuver efficiently through a tight space" are the easy part. Maneuvering through a city is tough, but it's because of all of the human drivers that zip unsafely back and forth between lanes without signaling, don't leave enough space for other vehicles, blow through stop lights, and so on.
Still, keep in mind that the vast majority of time spent driving a freight truck is on the interstate. Even if it's a while before trucks can operate autonomously within city limits, it'll be easy to have an unmanned truck drive between cities and then just send a driver out to get in the truck at the city limits and drive it the rest of the way. That will still be enough to shred the truck driving industry.
It's kind of sad that this got modded down, actually. This deserves to be modded up so that everybody can see that you're unwilling to provide any evidence for your own argument, insisting that the people who disagree with you should do your work for you.
Fortunately, these restrictions are all unenforcible.
Only if, after you've been discriminated against and filed a lawsuit, your case goes before a judge who interprets the constitution that way. There are plenty in the states in question who would say that the law doesn't constitute a religious test if it doesn't specify which supreme being you have to believe in.
All ideologies would have you believe that they use reason and logic. You shouldn't classify ideologies by what they label themselves as, but by what acts they perform. In what way did the Russian communist regime actually promote science and reason more than any other ideology?
Being anti-religion is not the same as being pro-science. In fact, if you bother to read that article, the only time "science" is ever mentioned is when quite a few people in the Russian Academy of Sciences were arrested and executed on false charges.
Think about it: It claims to prescribe what behavior is good or bad, generally expects its adherents to take its pronouncements on faith, and has a lot to say against various religions - just like ("other") competing religions do to their opponents.
Of course, none of those things are among the criteria for what causes something to be classified as a religion, but feel free to keep drawing parallels if it makes you feel better.
So really you're against specific business practices and abuses of the legal system, not GMO foods.
There is no such thing as "natural" corn anymore. All corn that is grown and sold is GMO corn; some strains of it were simply manipulated (and capitalized upon) more recently than others.
Thoughtful people would, of course, never use a phrase like 'religious wacko', idiot, etc, so, alas, this thread will see little deep inquiry.
It must be very convenient to be able to ignore the opinions of people who disagree with you just because they used a word you don't like.
If there are a few of you, here, you may be interested in this: lack of religion in the us is strongly correlated with poverty; economic mobility (escaping poverty, "climbing the economic ladder", achieving the "American dream") strongly correlates with religious affiliation.
I'm curious, do you have any source for your strong correlation? My own anecdotal evidence is that the poorest areas such as slums and ghettos usually have very high religious participation, while wealthy, highly educated people are more likely to be nonreligious. And everybody knows that the prison population is overwhelmingly religious.
So it sounds like you're one of the edge cases for whom owning a single, electric car would not be viable. That is unfortunate for you, but not a major impediment for everybody else.
Yes, if you make several 200+ mile trips per year, it will still make sense to own a gasoline car...
But keep in mind that, first of all, many people don't regularly travel that far, especially people who live in large urban centers. If you only go that far a couple of times a year, renting or borrowing a friend's car is perfectly acceptable.
Also keep in mind that it's already very common for families to own more than one car. If both a husband and wife work and they have kids who are old enough to drive, it's very likely they have two, three, or even four cars, and you really only need one of your cars to be capable of long-range trips.
That's before you take into account superchargers; if your trip is taking you along a highway that has a supercharger, it doesn't matter, anyway. You can take a break to stretch your legs and have a snack for a few minutes while you charge your car.
I don't know the exact statistics, but I, at least, would be perfectly capable of selling my old car and living only with an electric car that has a 200 mi range.
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Well, the important thing here is that since an offensive place like /r/coontown didn't like Ellen Pao, that means that nobody else had any valid criticisms and everybody who wanted her gone is a misogynist racist. Probably heteronormative Christian cis-scum, too. Am I right?
Over a year ago, Google's cars had already logged over 700k miles in California and Nevada with zero accidents where they were at fault: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/181508-googles-self-driving-car-passes-700000-accident-free-miles-can-now-avoid-cyclists-stop-for-trains
That aside, there will be a handful of robotic cars on the roads as opposed to many thousands of manned cars. You're statistically unlikely to even see a robotic car, let alone get in a collision with one.
I would imagine that, in the event of an emergency, it's programmed to come to a complete stop and call the authorities, then wait for user intervention.
That's probably not an issue, though, because:
1) Google's car already has multiple cameras recording everything that are much better than whatever you would have.
2) The drivers in the car would take control in the event of an emergency, anyway.
3) Google's car probably has individual components that are more expensive than your entire car, and there's no reason they wouldn't file an insurance claim to cover it (and do their best to ensure you're found at fault).
4) The odds of a robotic car colliding with you are miniscule compared to a manned vehicle.
You know this is in Austin, right?
It's more likely that they'll soon have the car running entirely on vegan fuel, maybe with a purple hair dye job.
No, several years ago there was an article posted by Bonk that consisted entirely of a picture of a snake that was eating its own tail. That one was the worst.
This one's pretty close, though.
How is it being diluted here? Are they calling something an IMAX theater that is not actually an IMAX theater?
Ctrl-F on the main page, "Linux"... yep, still reporting on Linux.
But Slashdot doesn't report exclusively about Linux-related issues and never has.
Unfortunately, the market for products that you can buy, make a perfect copy of in 15 minutes, and then return is not super profitable.
All he did was facilitate transactions among consenting adults.
From a moral standpoint, is somebody who is suffering from a severe physiological addition to a mind-altering drug truly capable of legal consent?
There are already many people who have children even though they don't want them. Cultural pressure, accidents, and ignorance about contraception all lead to people having and keeping children that they would have never chosen to have. Being immortal won't stop those things from happening, unfortunately.
Not to mention the small segments of society who feel like it's their religious duty to have as many children as possible -- won't it be great when a 300-year-old woman can keep having a new child every year, and all of her children keep having children, too?
Is all of that for an entry-level job, though? Most college CompSci degrees that I've seen don't even touch things like smart pointers, newer language standards, or boost. I've seen several fresh college graduates who have never used exceptions because one of their professors told them that exceptions are evil and you should never use them, and I've even seen a few who thought that Notepad was an acceptable IDE because their lab computers still had Visual Studio 6 installed on them, and they were at least smart enough to realize that VS6 was terrible, but didn't know there were other options available.
To be fair, pure CS isn't really about programming, but "entry-level" is still a very low bar.
I'm not convinced Android belongs in any vehicle, given the security issues.
What security issues are you talking about? How would they affect a vehicle? Are you thinking of specific security issues with the particular firmware Hyundai is using, or are you making generalizations based on other versions of Android?
Am I wrong.
That statement is vague enough that it's not even possible to tell whether you're right or wrong.
(unless she's a drug addict or something, then *maybe* - only maybe - the father might get custody)
Nope. I know a guy who is divorced; he's a perfectly decent guy, has a steady job, and loves his daughter, but is only allowed to see her for a few weeks a year. His ex-wife is a jobless drug addict who depends on her new husband for income, and she's even shown up to court high before. But she gets custody of their daughter, because she's female and therefore is obviously a better caretaker.
Because you have to work to eat! Anybody who works less than 40 hours a week is a freeloader who doesn't deserve a dime. I'm not paying taxes to the government so that it can feed and clothe people who are too lazy to get full-time jobs! They can starve to death in the streets if they're not willing to work hard enough to get a college education after we've automated away all of the unskilled labor.
* Note: I personally do not agree with that line of thought, but that is how a lot of people, including politicians, feel.
Ever notice how much skill is involved making those tight turns?
The funny thing is, so much of that skill is necessarily because a mere human has very limited awareness of the space and obstacles around such a large vehicle. It requires a lot of intuition and practice for a human to be able to do that reliably... but not so much for a vehicle with a couple of LIDAR units and stereo cameras that knows exactly where everything around it is to within a few centimeters and can use a pathfinding algorithm to figure out the most efficient way to maneuver into a given position.
Sometimes the trucks have to move over into the left lane just to get turned to the right. Will a computer-controlled rig do that?
Yes, why wouldn't they be able to? Lane detection and predicting how wide an arc you need to turn are easy.
And sometimes even the most skilled driver gets his rig into a spot where he has to back up several times and try again and again. Can a computer even come close to that kind of skill?
Yes, and because they can calculate the exact angle they need to turn at and how far they need to move, they'll be able to do it much more efficiently than a skilled human driver.
Can a computer back a truck into the dock behind your local supermarket when space is barely available to maneuver? Even some truck drivers wince at doing that.
Yep. Again, the reason it's hard for a human driver is only because they don't have persistent knowledge of the world around their vehicle and the ability to predict exactly how the vehicle will respond to any given input.
I get the notion that whoever comes up with these hair-brained ideas hasn't.
I get the notion that the people who spend five minutes thinking about things they think will be hard for autonomous vehicles to do and then post it on Slashdot don't realize that there are teams of people who have been working on these problems for well over a decade now.
The hard things for vehicles to deal with are poor terrain (like an old dirt road overgrown with tall grass, or a road completely covered in snow) and unpredictable human drivers. The logistics of "how do I maneuver efficiently through a tight space" are the easy part. Maneuvering through a city is tough, but it's because of all of the human drivers that zip unsafely back and forth between lanes without signaling, don't leave enough space for other vehicles, blow through stop lights, and so on.
Still, keep in mind that the vast majority of time spent driving a freight truck is on the interstate. Even if it's a while before trucks can operate autonomously within city limits, it'll be easy to have an unmanned truck drive between cities and then just send a driver out to get in the truck at the city limits and drive it the rest of the way. That will still be enough to shred the truck driving industry.
It's kind of sad that this got modded down, actually. This deserves to be modded up so that everybody can see that you're unwilling to provide any evidence for your own argument, insisting that the people who disagree with you should do your work for you.
Fortunately, these restrictions are all unenforcible.
Only if, after you've been discriminated against and filed a lawsuit, your case goes before a judge who interprets the constitution that way. There are plenty in the states in question who would say that the law doesn't constitute a religious test if it doesn't specify which supreme being you have to believe in.
All ideologies would have you believe that they use reason and logic. You shouldn't classify ideologies by what they label themselves as, but by what acts they perform. In what way did the Russian communist regime actually promote science and reason more than any other ideology?
Being anti-religion is not the same as being pro-science. In fact, if you bother to read that article, the only time "science" is ever mentioned is when quite a few people in the Russian Academy of Sciences were arrested and executed on false charges.
Think about it: It claims to prescribe what behavior is good or bad, generally expects its adherents to take its pronouncements on faith, and has a lot to say against various religions - just like ("other") competing religions do to their opponents.
Of course, none of those things are among the criteria for what causes something to be classified as a religion, but feel free to keep drawing parallels if it makes you feel better.
So really you're against specific business practices and abuses of the legal system, not GMO foods.
There is no such thing as "natural" corn anymore. All corn that is grown and sold is GMO corn; some strains of it were simply manipulated (and capitalized upon) more recently than others.
So please provide it, if you expect anybody to take you seriously.
Thoughtful people would, of course, never use a phrase like 'religious wacko', idiot, etc, so, alas, this thread will see little deep inquiry.
It must be very convenient to be able to ignore the opinions of people who disagree with you just because they used a word you don't like.
If there are a few of you, here, you may be interested in this: lack of religion in the us is strongly correlated with poverty; economic mobility (escaping poverty, "climbing the economic ladder", achieving the "American dream") strongly correlates with religious affiliation.
I'm curious, do you have any source for your strong correlation? My own anecdotal evidence is that the poorest areas such as slums and ghettos usually have very high religious participation, while wealthy, highly educated people are more likely to be nonreligious. And everybody knows that the prison population is overwhelmingly religious.
So it sounds like you're one of the edge cases for whom owning a single, electric car would not be viable. That is unfortunate for you, but not a major impediment for everybody else.
Yes, if you make several 200+ mile trips per year, it will still make sense to own a gasoline car...
But keep in mind that, first of all, many people don't regularly travel that far, especially people who live in large urban centers. If you only go that far a couple of times a year, renting or borrowing a friend's car is perfectly acceptable.
Also keep in mind that it's already very common for families to own more than one car. If both a husband and wife work and they have kids who are old enough to drive, it's very likely they have two, three, or even four cars, and you really only need one of your cars to be capable of long-range trips.
That's before you take into account superchargers; if your trip is taking you along a highway that has a supercharger, it doesn't matter, anyway. You can take a break to stretch your legs and have a snack for a few minutes while you charge your car.
I don't know the exact statistics, but I, at least, would be perfectly capable of selling my old car and living only with an electric car that has a 200 mi range.