Hell, this guy opens himself up for counter-suit bassed on at least harrasment and frivolous lawsuit. That isn't barristry!
Re:Fast upgrade for 7.3 and NULL Users on DSL
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O.K.....
Posting from the upgraded system! A minor caveat, the glibc RPM needs to be replaced, which means a dependancy in apt-get upgrade barfs.
I took my chances, and ran (as root) apt-get -o apt::force-loopbreak=true dist-upgrade.
This will run rpm -e on glibc, before installing the new rpms with -Uvh. Not for the squeamish, or those who don't no how to repair their distro from alternate boot media! Worked for me...;-)
Alternatively, you could run rpm -Uvh/var/cache/apt/packages/packagename first. This should allow a less-risky upgrade for the rest,via regular ol' apt.
Re:Fast upgrade for 7.3 and NULL Users on DSL
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Oh, yeah....
Make sure you have enough space on your/var partition!
:-)This'll need to be about 700 MB free, typically. You'll want even more there, if your still spooling print, mail, etc...
You can reclaim this space if you don't want to keep your packages around with
I've been running NULL for a couple of weeks. Remembered this morning the 8.0 release was today, and did a quick peek online, before deciding that trying to FTP new.iso images would be a time-wasting exercise in frustration - especially in the midst of studies.
I made a jump over to rpmfind.net, to look for an apt-get package, and try my luck this way.
BINGO!
The first hit is a new package, dated yesterday, from FreshRPMs.net.
RPM for i386
This includes an/etc/apt/sources.list file for RedHat 8.0.
I ran: su -c 'rpm -ivh apt-0.5.4cnc7-fr1.rpm'
apt-get update apt-get upgrade
I'm about 40% done now. I guess I'll run apt-get dist_upgrade after this, but I'm not sure if this does anything special with "held-back" packages, as it does on Debian.
IANAL, but - depending onhow nice you want to be- this looks like a real opportunity to bruise a tyrant.
Get a lawyer who understands the lack of merit in your opponents case.
Have him take you up on spec.
It will be VERY easy to conclusively demonstrate that you are not the author of the virus, and that Klez proliferates by spoofing sender addresses.
Take your sweet time in playing the trump card, make this expensive, long and time-consuming for him.
You can probably counter-sue for him pressing a nuisance suit. This is what will be salt on the meat for your lawyer to get involved. The minimum will be a suit to recover expenses.
Make sure that you have your lawyer agree in writing that if you are not successful in pressing suit, his fees are waived. Incentivises him, and removes your financial exposure. Hell, if you have a good laywer, he could spell this whole scenario out to the plaintiff lawyer, and you walk out of the room with a check and no appearance in court!
When you are done, you will have used this fellow's tools of abuse against him, and he might think twice before committing this sort of institutional violence again.
Actually, now I think of it, there is a HUGE contact area on this thing! Must leave a great print on the reading surface! What an opportunity for capturing palm-prints for forging access.
Back! Back, Evil Thing from the 80's! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 26, @12:18PM (#4338688)
Fuck the 80's.
This was, essentially, our own position at the time. All of the bands mentioned were in a real garage or glam tradition - largely picking up where things went sour in the mid-seventies.
Small Faces, Velvet Underground, Sly Stone, The Yardbirds, James Brown, 13th Floor Elevators, Otis Redding, Them, Love and The Byrds. These were threads and currents in the minds, music and presentation of this one-time underground. In 1980, NOT a popular or mainstream trend. The shit couldn't be bought in stores.
Che folks were really cool and helpful with their venue. Let us do all kinds of stuff in the space, for almost no money - even though you can't say that we were really in tune with the particulars of their politics or raison.
God Bless the Che Cafe!
We ran the BEST underground music shows here! DaveFest 2 and 3 happened here in 1985. This had all sorts of So-Cal "psychedelic" and garage acts. Years before there was "grunge."
The Unclaimed
The GraveDigger 5
Hair Theater
The Pandoras
Noise 292
The Answers
The Nephews - great Mod power-pop, when Oasis and Blur were in diapers
Any UNIX OS that supports UFS is a Real OS.
1. So get a real Unix (not that Linux crud), and you will no longer have any problems.
2. So, Solaris, Any of the BSD's (FreeBSD preferred; it shits all over Linux), etc.
3. No more FS problems!
4. ???
5. PROFIT!!!!
Don't mind me too much. I think of SCO, and I'm still sore that they made us pay extra to add a C compiler for SysV/386 - or whatever that beast was called. These days, that's standard commercial practice.
No GNU C back then - we had 16 MHz 386's - Everex Step - that would compile stuff overnight with the SCO compiler. I even think this came from Intel, OEM.
Just want to know why you think this is not a reflection on Caldera. I would think it a balanced observation to claim that Caldera have been a poor organization in supporting others - even on community efforts that did not originate with them.
Don't get started with SCO. The only nice thing to say about them is that they never put an OSF product on the market...
I'd mod you up, if I had points. I'm afraid a quotation will have to do...
I Am A Family Law Lawyer... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 16, @05:59PM (#4270042)...and I think any law firm that uses e-mail should have its lawyers disbarred for gross incompetence. I do family law, and I can tell you that if the e-mail I would get or send could get people killed. For that reason, although I've been using computers since 1970, I've never had e-mail and never will. If you think about it, e-mail is great as long as you don't mind anyone being able to read yours. I have no secrets, but a lot of my clients do.
You name one of the many situations wher e-mail would be useful, were encryption reasonably guaranteed and ubiquitous.
We will be waiting a very long time. There is no end to the power of inertia.
Exactly what I'm getting to. I -of course- know about your national origins and specific travels, because you thoughtfully include a personal URL on/.
I am glad you are unconcerned by the free traffic of personal and sensitive communications into hands of unintended recipients with indeterminate motives.
I think it naive to view MI6, etc. as "Good Guys" who will accurately use this intelligence to correctly identify "Bad Guys". The historical performance by U.K. and U.S. on these counts is miserable. Sometimes the "Bad Guys" are villagers trying to clean up foreign polluters in Malaysia, or people like Nelson Mandela... I won't try to convince you further on this point. Read, and draw your own conclusions.
Even when the agenda and motive of, say MI6, are not in doubt, do you want to be Mr. Buttle from Brazil?
Oh, and the "Bad Guys" aren't generally using strong encryption. This was one of the Red Herring issues in the pseudo-intelligence speculation after 9/11. Talking Heads from "expert" think-tanks spouted these claims like mad, and started a mini craze on searching for encrypted terror communiques. Never happened. All the communications were plain text and regular phone conversations. The interviewees last week on Al Jazeereh explained clearly how coded phrases were used to pass information on open channels.
What is harmful in your attitude is that you imply there is again something criminally suspect in the casual use of encryption technologies. I refer you to my earlier post in this thread - There is potential criminal and civil liability in NOT employing encryption, when commonly available.
So, If the U.K. govenment starts the monitoring and surveillance of Nationals who have made repeat visits to countries governed by suspect regiemes (Vietnam), or home to significant revolutionary guerilla movements (Peru), you would have no objection?
If -- by extra-legislative intelligence agreements -- they shared this information with unaccountable foriegn agencies in the U.S., Canada and Australia... You'd still be comfortable with that? I'm sorry if I have taken the argument closer to the "paranoia" scenario.
I take your point about "Golden Age" hyperbole. But the issues are farther reaching, by implication, than even most well-informed people are aware of.
>What's next? Scrambling your voice over the >telephone?
You really don't get the point about common-place message encryption yet.
I hope I can illustrate this in a helpful way, without appearing to condescend:
All plain-text e-mail - without encryption - can be likened in the snail-mail model, to a post-card. The message contents, sender and receiver, are all in plain view of anyone who might take a notice. At its most mundane, message cryptography can be seen as providing the equivalent of a digital envelope.
Of course, e-mail is not a postcard. In fact, the situation is better compared to sending postcards through a system which photocopies your message every time it passes through another station or container in its transit.... Oh, and every time it is photocopied, it is done by a different individuals and agencies, many of whom you may never have had any prior contact or relationship.
The desire to manage who has access to thecontent of such messages is not paranoia. If you are in the habit of sending e-mail in the context of any business, deploying encryption and certificate technologies would fall under the domain of "Due Dilligence". Not using them routinely would constitute failure to exercise "Due Care" - both of which have considerable legal and regulatory implications.
If you are an executive, a middle-manager or systems administrator, a tool like PGP now enables mail as a trusted path for exchange within your own organization sensitive information that would otherwise have to be circulated by more cumbersome means.
When you consider the wide variety of purposes for which most all people use SMTP as a transport, it is irresponsible to marginalize the use of encrypting mechanisms, or to view advocates of their use with suspicion.
Or, you can keep stapling your phone-bill to a 3x5 card!;-)
I have 3 working Indigos (R3000 AND R4000), plus a few odd hulks for parts.
O.K. I won't rip into the R3000/Entry graphics system. This was how SGI introduced the best designed personal workstation to the world. I will also spare the R4000/Elan - this represents the hight of the curve for these boxes, not obsoleted 'til '97 and will still run current IRIX.
But I can pick up semi-functional R3K's for 60 bucks on ebay. I might even do it up in Indigo Chrome!
This is my idea. I want to build a little 6/8 node performance cluster inside one of my old SGI Indigo boxes. Turn a '91-era workstation back into a real performance computer. Roomy enough, and built like a tank! I think I can get 6 mobos, a BIG shared PS, and a mini-hub in here. It'd be nice to have these boot off of a shared image from a RAID on the right side of the case, where SGI located the 4 half-hight bays.
Someday, when I have more time... By then the mobos will be small enough for 12 in the case!
not in bhutan, my friend went there to set up their TV service 2 years ago. Internet is nt freely avaliable and limited and computers are not evel close to being widely used
Didn't claim wide use in Bhutan. But you can bet that they have computers in government - which is to the point here.
They do finance operations internationally, even if the scale is 'hundred millions' and not 'tens of billions.' That isn't managed by paper cheques and letters of credit.
This is how the PK-ZIP standard was born. Of course, around 1989, the scale of changing a de facto online standard was considerably less challenging!;-)
You had to be pretty technical just to get online with a University, GEnie, Delphi or CompuServe. X.25 networks!
It remains to be seen if this can sway the bulk of online music users, the way Phil Katz rocked all over SEA's.ARC...
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...And don't forget to run lilo, before you reboot!
Hell, this guy opens himself up for counter-suit bassed on at least harrasment and frivolous lawsuit. That isn't barristry!
Posting from the upgraded system! A minor caveat, the glibc RPM needs to be replaced, which means a dependancy in apt-get upgrade barfs.
I took my chances, and ran (as root) apt-get -o apt::force-loopbreak=true dist-upgrade.
This will run rpm -e on glibc, before installing the new rpms with -Uvh. Not for the squeamish, or those who don't no how to repair their distro from alternate boot media! Worked for me...;-)
Alternatively, you could run rpm -Uvh /var/cache/apt/packages/ packagename first. This should allow a less-risky upgrade for the rest,via regular ol' apt.
Make sure you have enough space on your /var partition!
You can reclaim this space if you don't want to keep your packages around with
apt-get clean
I made a jump over to rpmfind.net, to look for an apt-get package, and try my luck this way.
BINGO!
The first hit is a new package, dated yesterday, from FreshRPMs.net.
apt-0.5.4cnc7-fr1
RPM for i386 This includes an /etc/apt/sources.list file for RedHat 8.0.
I ran:
su -c 'rpm -ivh apt-0.5.4cnc7-fr1.rpm'
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
I'm about 40% done now. I guess I'll run apt-get dist_upgrade after this, but I'm not sure if this does anything special with "held-back" packages, as it does on Debian.
Here's an output listing:
"Gosh honey, they even call 'em 'ice'..."
Get a lawyer who understands the lack of merit in your opponents case.
Have him take you up on spec.
It will be VERY easy to conclusively demonstrate that you are not the author of the virus, and that Klez proliferates by spoofing sender addresses.
Take your sweet time in playing the trump card, make this expensive, long and time-consuming for him.
You can probably counter-sue for him pressing a nuisance suit. This is what will be salt on the meat for your lawyer to get involved. The minimum will be a suit to recover expenses.
Make sure that you have your lawyer agree in writing that if you are not successful in pressing suit, his fees are waived. Incentivises him, and removes your financial exposure. Hell, if you have a good laywer, he could spell this whole scenario out to the plaintiff lawyer, and you walk out of the room with a check and no appearance in court!
When you are done, you will have used this fellow's tools of abuse against him, and he might think twice before committing this sort of institutional violence again.
Actually, now I think of it, there is a HUGE contact area on this thing! Must leave a great print on the reading surface! What an opportunity for capturing palm-prints for forging access.
The thing attaches to an ordinary PS/2-style mouse port. That's a secure channel!
So anybody who can land a trojan on the box, can easily capture the valid auth dialogue with the device...
It wouldn't be too tough to have a bogus "print" stored electrically, and rep[lay it either from the actual port, or read from a location in memory.
Small Faces, Velvet Underground, Sly Stone, The Yardbirds, James Brown, 13th Floor Elevators, Otis Redding, Them, Love and The Byrds. These were threads and currents in the minds, music and presentation of this one-time underground. In 1980, NOT a popular or mainstream trend. The shit couldn't be bought in stores.
Che folks were really cool and helpful with their venue. Let us do all kinds of stuff in the space, for almost no money - even though you can't say that we were really in tune with the particulars of their politics or raison.
The Unclaimed
The GraveDigger 5
Hair Theater
The Pandoras
Noise 292
The Answers
The Nephews - great Mod power-pop, when Oasis and Blur were in diapers
Manual Scan
Many more, all in ONE night!
I'm dumping IRIX, Unicos, QNX and VMS!
Don't mind me too much. I think of SCO, and I'm still sore that they made us pay extra to add a C compiler for SysV/386 - or whatever that beast was called. These days, that's standard commercial practice.
No GNU C back then - we had 16 MHz 386's - Everex Step - that would compile stuff overnight with the SCO compiler. I even think this came from Intel, OEM.
Just want to know why you think this is not a reflection on Caldera. I would think it a balanced observation to claim that Caldera have been a poor organization in supporting others - even on community efforts that did not originate with them.
Don't get started with SCO. The only nice thing to say about them is that they never put an OSF product on the market...
We will be waiting a very long time. There is no end to the power of inertia.
I am glad you are unconcerned by the free traffic of personal and sensitive communications into hands of unintended recipients with indeterminate motives.
I think it naive to view MI6, etc. as "Good Guys" who will accurately use this intelligence to correctly identify "Bad Guys". The historical performance by U.K. and U.S. on these counts is miserable. Sometimes the "Bad Guys" are villagers trying to clean up foreign polluters in Malaysia, or people like Nelson Mandela... I won't try to convince you further on this point. Read, and draw your own conclusions.
Even when the agenda and motive of, say MI6, are not in doubt, do you want to be Mr. Buttle from Brazil?
Oh, and the "Bad Guys" aren't generally using strong encryption. This was one of the Red Herring issues in the pseudo-intelligence speculation after 9/11. Talking Heads from "expert" think-tanks spouted these claims like mad, and started a mini craze on searching for encrypted terror communiques. Never happened. All the communications were plain text and regular phone conversations. The interviewees last week on Al Jazeereh explained clearly how coded phrases were used to pass information on open channels.
What is harmful in your attitude is that you imply there is again something criminally suspect in the casual use of encryption technologies. I refer you to my earlier post in this thread - There is potential criminal and civil liability in NOT employing encryption, when commonly available.
If the U.K. govenment starts the monitoring and surveillance of Nationals who have made repeat visits to countries governed by suspect regiemes (Vietnam), or home to significant revolutionary guerilla movements (Peru), you would have no objection?
If -- by extra-legislative intelligence agreements -- they shared this information with unaccountable foriegn agencies in the U.S., Canada and Australia... You'd still be comfortable with that? I'm sorry if I have taken the argument closer to the "paranoia" scenario.
I take your point about "Golden Age" hyperbole. But the issues are farther reaching, by implication, than even most well-informed people are aware of.
Amazing, but that's how it'll work in the "real world" too, someday!
>What's next? Scrambling your voice over the
>telephone?
You really don't get the point about common-place message encryption yet.
I hope I can illustrate this in a helpful way, without appearing to condescend:
All plain-text e-mail - without encryption - can be likened in the snail-mail model, to a post-card. The message contents, sender and receiver, are all in plain view of anyone who might take a notice. At its most mundane, message cryptography can be seen as providing the equivalent of a digital envelope.
Of course, e-mail is not a postcard. In fact, the situation is better compared to sending postcards through a system which photocopies your message every time it passes through another station or container in its transit.... Oh, and every time it is photocopied, it is done by a different individuals and agencies, many of whom you may never have had any prior contact or relationship.
The desire to manage who has access to thecontent of such messages is not paranoia. If you are in the habit of sending e-mail in the context of any business, deploying encryption and certificate technologies would fall under the domain of "Due Dilligence". Not using them routinely would constitute failure to exercise "Due Care" - both of which have considerable legal and regulatory implications.
If you are an executive, a middle-manager or systems administrator, a tool like PGP now enables mail as a trusted path for exchange within your own organization sensitive information that would otherwise have to be circulated by more cumbersome means.
When you consider the wide variety of purposes for which most all people use SMTP as a transport, it is irresponsible to marginalize the use of encrypting mechanisms, or to view advocates of their use with suspicion.
Or, you can keep stapling your phone-bill to a 3x5 card! ;-)
O.K. I won't rip into the R3000/Entry graphics system. This was how SGI introduced the best designed personal workstation to the world. I will also spare the R4000/Elan - this represents the hight of the curve for these boxes, not obsoleted 'til '97 and will still run current IRIX.
But I can pick up semi-functional R3K's for 60 bucks on ebay. I might even do it up in Indigo Chrome!
This is my idea. I want to build a little 6/8 node performance cluster inside one of my old SGI Indigo boxes. Turn a '91-era workstation back into a real performance computer. Roomy enough, and built like a tank! I think I can get 6 mobos, a BIG shared PS, and a mini-hub in here. It'd be nice to have these boot off of a shared image from a RAID on the right side of the case, where SGI located the 4 half-hight bays.
Someday, when I have more time... By then the mobos will be small enough for 12 in the case!
Didn't claim wide use in Bhutan. But you can bet that they have computers in government - which is to the point here.
They do finance operations internationally, even if the scale is 'hundred millions' and not 'tens of billions.' That isn't managed by paper cheques and letters of credit.
No. they conduct oil drilling operations with dowsing-rods and donkey-powered pumping equipment.
Jeez! Howdya think any nation-state runs in this age? They have computerized buracracy in Bhutan and Namibia.
Hugo Chavez thought he had a tenacious enemy when he crossed Big Oil (tm) :-)
You had to be pretty technical just to get online with a University, GEnie, Delphi or CompuServe. X.25 networks!
It remains to be seen if this can sway the bulk of online music users, the way Phil Katz rocked all over SEA's .ARC...