No, the drag and drop was part of the Motif 2.1 API. I know because I was writing programs to use it. 4DWm merely implemented the Motif built-in DnD on the desktop, unlike mwm which hadn't changed since the Motif 1.0 days.
Last time I used Motif (about 2 years ago, on Irix) was that it had a working and fairly powerful drag and drop. Granted, they changed the API right in the middle of things, which sucked, but I could (and did) write an application where any user could drag "film rolls" (an object in our system) onto the desktop, and then drag them from the desktop into other programs that knew something about "film rolls" and that program could process the film roll. Programs that didn't know anything about film roll object just got the file name where the film roll was stored, but applications that knew about film rolls got all sorts of other characteristics of the film roll in the drop message without opening the file.
I haven't figured out how to do similar dragging and dropping on the desktop or between applications with KDE or Gnome. I'm pretty sure it's there, but it doesn't seem as integrated as it did on Irix.
Speaking as a news administrator with 13 years experience: Is it legal? Damn right it's legal. You have no "right" to make me carry your news. If I chose not to carry news from your site, there isn't a damn thing you can do to force me to carry it. What happens if for example I am a researcher and want to send a usenet posting to someone You don't send usenet postings to someone, you send email to someone. If your research relies upon Usenet, then you should get Usenet access at your research establishment. There are commercial Usenet access companies, and there is Dejanews. Guess I'm screwed by the "wonderful" community No, you're screwed by @Home's lax attitude towards open relays and spammers. They've been told numerous times to clean up their act, and refused. Pre-announcing the UDP is a last ditch attempt to get @Home to take us seriously.
Your post is full of misinformation about Vincennes and the Airbus tragedy.
1. There was no F-14 in the air at the time. It's considered doubtful that Iran had any F-14s capable of flying at that time. 2. The Airbus was in a civillian air corridor - Vincennes the the air corridors plotted wrong. 3. The "separate warnings" all identifed the aircraft they were "warning" based on relative position from the ship. A civillian aircraft doesn't have any way to know where the ship is, and isn't about to respond to calls make to "Iranian F-14 30 nautical miles north of my position and diving" when it's an Airbus, it's climbing, and it doesn't know where "my position" is. 4. Vincennes picked up no Mode 3 squawks from Iranian airspace. 5. Vincennes disobeyed a direct order and left it's patrol area in order to put itself in that "danger" that Captain Rogers thought he was in. 6. Rogers flagrantly disobeyed the rules of engagement many times during this incident, including when he ordered the firing of two Standard Missiles against this improperly identified target. 7. Rogers had been cited several times for disobeying the rules of engagement in the past, and Vincennes was known in the fleet as "Robocruiser" because of it.
I wasn't saying it was the same article, I was referring to the "big question" in the news item. Hemos asked an implied question if it *was* a Cobalt Qube, or merely looked like one. 20 seconds of searching found that article from October where the agreement is explained. Gee, Gateway and Cobalt sign an agreement, then two months later Gateway is selling something that looks and has very similar specs to a Cobalt product. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they're the same product.
Although it does apparently take an anonymous coward to willfully misunderstand a post so that they can have something to flame.
I've had the xcski.com domain for many years. I got the domain because it represents one of my many interests, cross country skiing. Every few months some ski shop or other calls me up wanting my domain, but none of them are willing to pay more than a few hundred bucks for it. Forget it, it's not worth my while to get all my mailing lists and stuff transferred over to my new domain.
I learned my lesson after the Toronto Sun acted like total assholes and stiffed me when they asked for and I gave them my old domain, canoe.com. I only asked for three things:
Pay for the new domain.
Allow me time to get the new domain set up and get my mailing lists transferred over.
Give me tickets to "Phantom of the Opera" for me and my family
I should have known that something was wrong when I got the notification that the canoe.com domain was being transferred before I'd even put in the form for xcski.com. And I never got the damn tickets either.
So I said right then and there that I'm not going through that again, not without demanding big bucks and making sure I had them in my hand.
Geez, and I thought web sites that required javashit for navigation were lame. This one appears to require Shockwave, for God's sake. Or am I totally misinterpreting what that thingy on the left side is supposed to be?
"Even Cinesite (also owned by Kodak) has Shake licenses"
That means absolutely nothing. Cinesite had Flame and Flint licenses as well. They had licenses for every other major post production and compositing software on the market as well. They were a post production house first, and a Cineon promotion and demonstration house way, way, way second.
I used to work on one of the best digital post production programs in the world, Cineon from Kodak. Unfortunately Kodak's bean counters couldn't see that film is going to be obsolete in 5 years and decided that film is profitable *now* and digital isn't, so they pulled the plug.
Did somebody really post photos and details of his underage sister in order to get her harrassed? Because if somebody did that to my daughter, I wouldn't sue, I'd kill. And I'd dynamite the building that housed the server. I think John showed restraint in only threatening to sue.
It always seems to me that hardware reviewers, especially Sharky, get really disappointed if the product they are reviewing isn't faster than the ones they are comparing it to. To the point where they make all sorts of excuses for the benchmarks where it *doesn't* beat the competition. Why can't they just be objective?
Refusing to use the new drivers for the GeForce is just another example of the lengths they will go to to make sure the product they are reviewing "wins". I don't get it.
Vicki and I met on a Usenet newsgroup, rather than interactive chat. Maybe it's because we're older than most geeks, but communication where you actually put some thought into every sentence you write worked better for us. We started exchanging email, we met face to face about 2 months later. 6 months after that, I got a job in her city so we could start dating like real people. About two years after that we got married. I'm sure you horny young geeks think that's an incredibly long time to wait, but we'd both been married before and we both had kids, so we had to be sure this was right.
I posted this without clicking on the "No Score+1 bonus" or the "Post Anonymously" buttons, but it posted anonymously anyway. I think there's a Slash.pm problem here.
Tons of talking about what his analysis shows, without actually showing the analysis
Rampant paranoia (Microsoft is going to sue me, they're keeping me out of the legit media, etc)
Tons of self-promotion (put me on your talk show, I did this and I did that)
Pie charts, the tool of Ross Perot:-)
Even if I could find any facts on this page to back up his outrageous claims (and I can't, all I can find is him saying over and over again that he has these facts), I still wouldn't believe him.
Even if it doesn't make it into the main kernel, it's open source, it's supported by a vendor, so what's the problem? Every time a new "main branch" kernel comes out, the TurboLinux people can make their same changes to it that they did to previous versions. And if the code they're modifying to do it doesn't change much between kernel versions, it will be trivial for them. If somebody rips out and re-writes the stuff they're based on, then they have a problem - but anybody who cares about clustering in the open source community will be able to help them.
I guess it depends on your definition of "real world". I've been programming in the "real world" for 17 years (not counting my university co-op work placements), and I have yet to write a single line of code that will run only on Microsoft platforms. I've done FORTRAN on mainframes, about a dozen varieties of Unix using C, C++ and perl, and for the past two years I've been writing Java code on Linux that gets released on Windows and Solaris.
That's why I said in my original post what I use, not what the "real world" uses.
This camera, with a 66MHz PPC chip, is more powerful that 3 of the 7 computers that are on my home network. Maybe 4, depending on how you count the 166MHz Alpha UDB.
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No, the drag and drop was part of the Motif 2.1 API. I know because I was writing programs to use it. 4DWm merely implemented the Motif built-in DnD on the desktop, unlike mwm which hadn't changed since the Motif 1.0 days.
Last time I used Motif (about 2 years ago, on Irix) was that it had a working and fairly powerful drag and drop. Granted, they changed the API right in the middle of things, which sucked, but I could (and did) write an application where any user could drag "film rolls" (an object in our system) onto the desktop, and then drag them from the desktop into other programs that knew something about "film rolls" and that program could process the film roll. Programs that didn't know anything about film roll object just got the file name where the film roll was stored, but applications that knew about film rolls got all sorts of other characteristics of the film roll in the drop message without opening the file.
I haven't figured out how to do similar dragging and dropping on the desktop or between applications with KDE or Gnome. I'm pretty sure it's there, but it doesn't seem as integrated as it did on Irix.
Speaking as a news administrator with 13 years experience:
Is it legal?
Damn right it's legal. You have no "right" to make me carry your news. If I chose not to carry news from your site, there isn't a damn thing you can do to force me to carry it.
What happens if for example I am a researcher and want to send a usenet posting to someone
You don't send usenet postings to someone, you send email to someone. If your research relies upon Usenet, then you should get Usenet access at your research establishment. There are commercial Usenet access companies, and there is Dejanews.
Guess I'm screwed by the "wonderful" community
No, you're screwed by @Home's lax attitude towards open relays and spammers. They've been told numerous times to clean up their act, and refused. Pre-announcing the UDP is a last ditch attempt to get @Home to take us seriously.
Your post is full of misinformation about Vincennes and the Airbus tragedy.
1. There was no F-14 in the air at the time. It's considered doubtful that Iran had any F-14s capable of flying at that time.
2. The Airbus was in a civillian air corridor - Vincennes the the air corridors plotted wrong.
3. The "separate warnings" all identifed the aircraft they were "warning" based on relative position from the ship. A civillian aircraft doesn't have any way to know where the ship is, and isn't about to respond to calls make to "Iranian F-14 30 nautical miles north of my position and diving" when it's an Airbus, it's climbing, and it doesn't know where "my position" is.
4. Vincennes picked up no Mode 3 squawks from Iranian airspace.
5. Vincennes disobeyed a direct order and left it's patrol area in order to put itself in that "danger" that Captain Rogers thought he was in.
6. Rogers flagrantly disobeyed the rules of engagement many times during this incident, including when he ordered the firing of two Standard Missiles against this improperly identified target.
7. Rogers had been cited several times for disobeying the rules of engagement in the past, and Vincennes was known in the fleet as "Robocruiser" because of it.
I wasn't saying it was the same article, I was referring to the "big question" in the news item. Hemos asked an implied question if it *was* a Cobalt Qube, or merely looked like one. 20 seconds of searching found that article from October where the agreement is explained. Gee, Gateway and Cobalt sign an agreement, then two months later Gateway is selling something that looks and has very similar specs to a Cobalt product. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they're the same product.
Although it does apparently take an anonymous coward to willfully misunderstand a post so that they can have something to flame.
The agreement between Gateway and Cobalt was mentioned in this story, posted October 13th.
I learned my lesson after the Toronto Sun acted like total assholes and stiffed me when they asked for and I gave them my old domain, canoe.com. I only asked for three things:
I should have known that something was wrong when I got the notification that the canoe.com domain was being transferred before I'd even put in the form for xcski.com. And I never got the damn tickets either.
So I said right then and there that I'm not going through that again, not without demanding big bucks and making sure I had them in my hand.
Geez, and I thought web sites that required javashit for navigation were lame. This one appears to require Shockwave, for God's sake. Or am I totally misinterpreting what that thingy on the left side is supposed to be?
"Even Cinesite (also owned by Kodak) has Shake licenses"
That means absolutely nothing. Cinesite had Flame and Flint licenses as well. They had licenses for every other major post production and compositing software on the market as well. They were a post production house first, and a Cineon promotion and demonstration house way, way, way second.
I used to work on one of the best digital post production programs in the world, Cineon from Kodak. Unfortunately Kodak's bean counters couldn't see that film is going to be obsolete in 5 years and decided that film is profitable *now* and digital isn't, so they pulled the plug.
Cineon was a very cool piece of software.
Did somebody really post photos and details of his underage sister in order to get her harrassed? Because if somebody did that to my daughter, I wouldn't sue, I'd kill. And I'd dynamite the building that housed the server. I think John showed restraint in only threatening to sue.
abuse@ftp.warez.org
Look at the A record for ftp.warez.org
Are you asking for an intellectual lawyer who does property, or a lawyer who does intellectual property?
It always seems to me that hardware reviewers, especially Sharky, get really disappointed if the product they are reviewing isn't faster than the ones they are comparing it to. To the point where they make all sorts of excuses for the benchmarks where it *doesn't* beat the competition. Why can't they just be objective?
Refusing to use the new drivers for the GeForce is just another example of the lengths they will go to to make sure the product they are reviewing "wins". I don't get it.
Vicki and I met on a Usenet newsgroup, rather than interactive chat. Maybe it's because we're older than most geeks, but communication where you actually put some thought into every sentence you write worked better for us. We started exchanging email, we met face to face about 2 months later. 6 months after that, I got a job in her city so we could start dating like real people. About two years after that we got married. I'm sure you horny young geeks think that's an incredibly long time to wait, but we'd both been married before and we both had kids, so we had to be sure this was right.
Anyway, check out our wedding web page
...is never talk about Echelon club.
Yeah, and if you want to keep blacks from eating at your lunch counter, you can't do that either. How unfair it must seem to you.
Those who don't understand history are condemmed to misunderstand it.
I posted this without clicking on the "No Score+1 bonus" or the "Post Anonymously" buttons, but it posted anonymously anyway. I think there's a Slash.pm problem here.
Damn, you beat me to it.
Even if I could find any facts on this page to back up his outrageous claims (and I can't, all I can find is him saying over and over again that he has these facts), I still wouldn't believe him.
I would pronounce it "Chut", and claim that the first letter was a chi. I won't tell you the trouble I had with a product called "Xaos".
Even if it doesn't make it into the main kernel, it's open source, it's supported by a vendor, so what's the problem? Every time a new "main branch" kernel comes out, the TurboLinux people can make their same changes to it that they did to previous versions. And if the code they're modifying to do it doesn't change much between kernel versions, it will be trivial for them. If somebody rips out and re-writes the stuff they're based on, then they have a problem - but anybody who cares about clustering in the open source community will be able to help them.
I guess it depends on your definition of "real world". I've been programming in the "real world" for 17 years (not counting my university co-op work placements), and I have yet to write a single line of code that will run only on Microsoft platforms. I've done FORTRAN on mainframes, about a dozen varieties of Unix using C, C++ and perl, and for the past two years I've been writing Java code on Linux that gets released on Windows and Solaris.
That's why I said in my original post what I use, not what the "real world" uses.
My favourite programming language depends on the problem to be solved.
If it's quick and dirty where getting the program done quickly is more important than having it run quickly, I'll choose perl.
If it's something that is large and involved, and it doesn't matter if it's slow, especially if there is a GUI involved, I'll choose Java.
If execution speed is everything, then I'll choose C.
If execution speed is important, but it's a large involved project, then C++ might provide a better compromise than C or Java.
This camera, with a 66MHz PPC chip, is more powerful that 3 of the 7 computers that are on my home network. Maybe 4, depending on how you count the 166MHz Alpha UDB.