I think that me, as a European socialist, am getting mired to deep in a specifically American debate which, admittedly, I do not fully understand....;)
Ehm, well - the implied context of 'federal' when it comes to the statement of "they are paying no taxes" has become a standard rhetorical tool in certain circles lately. It is still a deliberate lie, and it is a deliberate lie to backpedal when called upon. Sorry, I am not at the point where I can just eye-roll on that. It is a vile and ugly tool of debate which is purely designed to shit on the less well off.
You were speaking about 47% of Americans not paying taxes. No qualifiers. No amount of lying now will change your original post. But thanks for making clear from what hole you crawled.
"Whose" the retard is the guy claiming 47% are paying "no taxes". Note that nowhere it was stated that it was "no federal taxes". But hey, suck some more Koch brothers' cock, or whatever it is you teabaggers do when you don't mouth off bullshit.
Neither. Just way beyond engaging the libertardians and similar scum that infested slashdot lately, because it leads to nothing. Just flaming away. Go Galt, already.
Calling that shit "pizza" is an insult to every decent pizza baker. The moon is not far enough - dump the whole franchise into a black hole and be done with it.
Guess 47% of Americans don't pay sales tax, yes? Is there a special retard newsletter you got to subscribe for talking points such as this or does it come naturally to you?
"Pretending"??? Since the reign of St. Ronald, peace be upon him, it is pretty clear that they have no clue how business works. Except for the business of lining their own pockets, of course.
True, and given the current situation - especially the slightly intellectually questionable types popping up in the republican primaries - pre-WW 1 Germany is the chocolate bar in this picture. Be afraid.
Well, to add to the irony, contemplate on the fact that right before World War I, there was the first round of the "Globalization will deliver us from wars"-talk. And, of course, right at the start of WW I, France was Germany's biggest trade partner. Enough truth to lead to some reflection, indeed.
In contrast to the US occupying territory it never had any claim on? Half the world away from the legitimate territory? Oh, yes, sorry, that was HUMANITARIAN, as in, uhm, geopolitical oil interests, sorry. That of course is wholly legitimate and not the slightest bit expansionist.
Agreed, but in this case, you hit a particularly interesting story - the comment section will combine the new trends of technophobia caused by teenage faux cynicism and racism/nationalism, which have overrun slashdot lately. Sooner or later, the libertardians will join the fray and it'll be free for all. No idea where the nerds went. Sometimes you get a good discussion, mostly, though, I am just here to flame idiots these days.
You think that is a question? The war will be with the US, and the US will start it, in a last desperate attempt to assert their self-assigned role of global domination. Fits right in with the American history of starting wars for no good reason, just to distract from internal problems. And the internal problems are getting bigger.
The problem with suburbia is not that the people moved out of the cities - the problem is that the places they moved to are horrid mono cultures of McMansions, dropped onto the land without any regard for city planning. If the burbs were mixed neighborhoods with housing, stores, restaurants and a functioning public transit, there wouldn't be a problem at all.
Well, the "you in the mirror" is pretty much what I meant - as I said, an allegorical distillate of fucked-up-ness. Same regarding hell. I haven't been arguing from a catholic PoV, by the way - I am an atheist lutheran. However, the catholic theologians have a habit of being quite logical - that's why they present the same point as you, instead of a literal, seducing, adversarial Devil - which, after all, would be more of a Demiurge, a quite heretical one.
Actually, generally, if a sig is something really obviously stupid like the one in question, it is meant as a straw man attack. At least these days on/.
True, but people still wanted fresh meat - and that had to be close. Nothing against salted pork, corned beef, air dried pata negra, a decently made beef jerky - but every now and then you want a roast from fresh meat.
Well, the "Christian" devil is a very thin concept, theologically speaking. Quite a lot of the more liberal denominations don't take it that serious - it is, after all, quite illogical, going from the almighty, all-knowing, all-good God premise. An "adversary" doesn't quite fit into that. Then again, not much does, but hell... Anyway, the more liberal theologists take it more allegorical, together with the fall, as a metaphor for the quite observable general fucked-upness of human nature.
The "non-Christians don't get into heaven"-thing also is not that common - it stems from the absolute rejection of work ethics - i.e. being saved by doing good works - by some of the more fundamentalist American evangelicals.
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I think that me, as a European socialist, am getting mired to deep in a specifically American debate which, admittedly, I do not fully understand.... ;)
Ehm, well - the implied context of 'federal' when it comes to the statement of "they are paying no taxes" has become a standard rhetorical tool in certain circles lately. It is still a deliberate lie, and it is a deliberate lie to backpedal when called upon. Sorry, I am not at the point where I can just eye-roll on that. It is a vile and ugly tool of debate which is purely designed to shit on the less well off.
You were speaking about 47% of Americans not paying taxes. No qualifiers. No amount of lying now will change your original post. But thanks for making clear from what hole you crawled.
"Whose" the retard is the guy claiming 47% are paying "no taxes". Note that nowhere it was stated that it was "no federal taxes". But hey, suck some more Koch brothers' cock, or whatever it is you teabaggers do when you don't mouth off bullshit.
Neither. Just way beyond engaging the libertardians and similar scum that infested slashdot lately, because it leads to nothing. Just flaming away. Go Galt, already.
He made the moon run in less than 3 microparsec....
Calling that shit "pizza" is an insult to every decent pizza baker. The moon is not far enough - dump the whole franchise into a black hole and be done with it.
Guess 47% of Americans don't pay sales tax, yes? Is there a special retard newsletter you got to subscribe for talking points such as this or does it come naturally to you?
Were you born stupid or did you have to work on it? Either way, impressive result.
"Pretending"??? Since the reign of St. Ronald, peace be upon him, it is pretty clear that they have no clue how business works. Except for the business of lining their own pockets, of course.
True, and given the current situation - especially the slightly intellectually questionable types popping up in the republican primaries - pre-WW 1 Germany is the chocolate bar in this picture. Be afraid.
Well, to add to the irony, contemplate on the fact that right before World War I, there was the first round of the "Globalization will deliver us from wars"-talk. And, of course, right at the start of WW I, France was Germany's biggest trade partner. Enough truth to lead to some reflection, indeed.
In contrast to the US occupying territory it never had any claim on? Half the world away from the legitimate territory? Oh, yes, sorry, that was HUMANITARIAN, as in, uhm, geopolitical oil interests, sorry. That of course is wholly legitimate and not the slightest bit expansionist.
Agreed, but in this case, you hit a particularly interesting story - the comment section will combine the new trends of technophobia caused by teenage faux cynicism and racism/nationalism, which have overrun slashdot lately. Sooner or later, the libertardians will join the fray and it'll be free for all. No idea where the nerds went. Sometimes you get a good discussion, mostly, though, I am just here to flame idiots these days.
You think that is a question? The war will be with the US, and the US will start it, in a last desperate attempt to assert their self-assigned role of global domination. Fits right in with the American history of starting wars for no good reason, just to distract from internal problems. And the internal problems are getting bigger.
The problem with suburbia is not that the people moved out of the cities - the problem is that the places they moved to are horrid mono cultures of McMansions, dropped onto the land without any regard for city planning. If the burbs were mixed neighborhoods with housing, stores, restaurants and a functioning public transit, there wouldn't be a problem at all.
Well, the "you in the mirror" is pretty much what I meant - as I said, an allegorical distillate of fucked-up-ness. Same regarding hell. I haven't been arguing from a catholic PoV, by the way - I am an atheist lutheran. However, the catholic theologians have a habit of being quite logical - that's why they present the same point as you, instead of a literal, seducing, adversarial Devil - which, after all, would be more of a Demiurge, a quite heretical one.
Are they idiots for not wasting their time on the project or for using some crapware 10 years behind commercial state of the art, anyway?
Hm, guess you got a point. Sarcasm and straw men are indeed on orthogonal axes.
I had that one coming.... ;)
Actually, generally, if a sig is something really obviously stupid like the one in question, it is meant as a straw man attack. At least these days on /.
True, but people still wanted fresh meat - and that had to be close. Nothing against salted pork, corned beef, air dried pata negra, a decently made beef jerky - but every now and then you want a roast from fresh meat.
Loki, Coyote - there's a lot of precedents. The "trickster god" is not a particularly uncommon concept. No wonder, given the state of the world.
Well, the "Christian" devil is a very thin concept, theologically speaking. Quite a lot of the more liberal denominations don't take it that serious - it is, after all, quite illogical, going from the almighty, all-knowing, all-good God premise. An "adversary" doesn't quite fit into that. Then again, not much does, but hell... Anyway, the more liberal theologists take it more allegorical, together with the fall, as a metaphor for the quite observable general fucked-upness of human nature.
The "non-Christians don't get into heaven"-thing also is not that common - it stems from the absolute rejection of work ethics - i.e. being saved by doing good works - by some of the more fundamentalist American evangelicals.