OTOH, Gnome had to be written because of KDE's relationship to proprietary software. For many years, KDE was a better overall environment and attracted more users. But as the corporate world began to look for ways to market Linux-based distros, it was Gnome's relative purity (not any of its technical merits, which are few) that got KDE pushed to the sidelines.
Are we now going to see Gnome become the encumbered environment that's more popular with users, and KDE freer one?
Its kind of absurd when you think about it. Copying Microsoft's stuff will only make Gnome more like WINE, only less popular. And can you see GNU making further concessions for Microsoft's patented ideas within their projects?? Don't be ridiculous!
de Icaza and his troop want to continue a career of aping Microsoft's binary components while leaving almost all of the design and other heavy lifting to the latter. They are not worth the trouble that brings. Let them fork Gnome into something else and then see which environment continues to get included in the corporate-supported distros.
Firefox of course usually comes installed out of the box, so it isn't an issue.
Yeah, but how does a user get a current version of Firefox on an 18-month old distro like Ubuntu LTS?
I was going to say that people keep reaching for an example like Firefox because to use an ISV-distributed program like Photoshop would be odd: Photoshop and similar programs don't exist for FOSS distros. But then I remembered that even Firefox is an appropriate example of the problem.
what's awkward about totally automatic security updates
Wrong question. It should be: "What's awkward about managing apps that are lumped into one huge repository along with the OS?"
You see, application developers stay away from systems that don't clearly define what is and isn't included in the OS. Doubly so when the gatekeepers of that OS constantly demand or imply that apps must be surrendered to and repackaged by a clueless committee of distro managers. Compile-time and packaging decisions can be important for app developers; so why aren't those decisions being made by the developers?
Here's another question: Why are the Ubuntu LTS installs I did sitting there with no easy way for their owners to upgrade to current versions of Firefox and OpenOffice??
And a final one: What makes you think that inserting distro managers (OS people) in-between app developers and their end users will promote healthy relationships? Why is the operating system group the primary contact for people using scores of applications in the Linux realm?
Free software isn't socialism, it's the new capitalism. It's the small guy capitalism.
Or rather, FOSS stands in for capitalism where the latter should be if the free market hadn't failed back in the 90s. FOSS probably fits the "libertarian-socialist" mold more closely than other isms: There is a lot of resource sharing and a tendency away from highly concentrated power.
Of course that has its downsides, too. What we need more than anything is a strongly democratic (and educated) society where a wide range of organizational principles ('isms') can mix and match as needed.
It shows how banks have failed us by ignoring the push for domestic solar energy. This type of renewable energy has proved an excellent (low-risk) investment so you'd think that banks would be eager to offer financing at low interest rates.
There is a much larger processing requirement for transferring everything via https plus the bandwidth requirement is higher.
Most browsers cache the symmetric session key so it can keep re-using the secure link instantly. Its plenty fast for subsequent requests.
The main drag with Https is the non-caching of page content. It would be nice if users could turn on caching on a site-by-site basis, thus opening up the possibility of making non-critical sites somewhat more private.
Supertux 2 Pingus Enigma Chromium BSU KSudoku (very nice under KDE4 if you can deal with that) Frozen Bubble
Puppy Games also has some nice shoot-em-ups that run on Linux. Their titles are cheap, pretty fun to play and have good sized trial modes. My fav here is Ultratron (inspired by Robotron 2084) and also Titan Attacks.
Automated letter printing and phone calls are an incredibly easy undertaking for a corporate entity like Comcast. I wonder what their excuse is for trying to mess with this stuff in-band?
Thank goodness I'm not the only one here who thinks this will be an excuse for Comcast to do nasty things to our traffic. Consider that very many torrent connections are encrypted these days -- and so are malware connections.
I, for one, do not want to be harassed because I have traffic that Comcast can't deep-inspect, going to hosts that Comcast's IP lawyers may not like. Nor do I want to see them doing this via web injection, which is just another form of data falsification which Comcast used to defend to the hilt until the government said absolutely NO.
At the very least Comcast should have the decency to contact people out-of-band (phone or mail), which is always the best way to handle compromised security.
I know TFA shows it on Comcast's page.. but still this is Comcast we're talking about. Are they going to just inject a pop-up while I'm randomly surfing?
Also, prepare for brand-new phishing tactics in 3, 2, 1..
Also, joining the chorus on this being tied to anti-P2P intentions.
Indeed, I'm thinking this could be a pretext to start routinely injecting crap into webpages... back to their old data falsification ways.
...is she could have found some way of hiding the data so it wouldn't get inspected, and its somewhat probable her adversary in court could have accused her of smuggling sensitive data across the border.
The layers above Linux + GNU tools are always changing and have very different behaviors even between distros using the same DE. A typical 28-year old who has dappled with "Linux" in the form of the Walmart special (enlightenment DE), an EeePC (Xandros KDE 3), his friend's custom-installed OS (Gnome or KDE4) and maybe 2 or 3 handheld devices described as "Linux" with no discernably common surface features and no assurances they will sync with "Linux" groupwares (now that's a joke).
For both the novice AND the power-user set, the "Linux" thing looks like a lot of nonsensical blather. You have to have worked on web servers to know that "Linux" means something more stable than a bunch of clowns trying to waste you time with stuff that always looks and acts different.
So I'll believe that users are ready for "Linux" (or vice-versa) when Apple increases their unit sales by marketing "XNU BSD" to a TV audience. Of course, Apple would never do that because it would be insanely stupid which IMHO says something about the striking misapprehension that FOSS techies have of personal computing in general.
Marketing "Linux" to non-sysadmin types is STUPID!! As a demographic they will never, never ever "get" something they aren't equipped to even understand. Now please spare the rest of humanity this subcultural mania known as "getting people to use Desktop Linux". Linux is not a Firefox or an OpenOffice nor is it like OS X or Windows.
It isn't even like Android, which is itself Linux-based. Like OS X and Windows, Android is a consumer platform with well-defined UI and an SDK offering rich functionality; Firefox and OOo also fit this description somewhat (and I applaud Mozilla for not allowing people to make changes to Firefox and pass it off as "Firefox").
OTOH "Desktop Linux" is a morass of non-platform "distros" that don't even offer a comprehensive SDK and where the default APIs are dropped from the default installation from year to year when they fall out of fashion. Its too chaotic for most app developers (ISVs) to cope with, so -- surprise! -- there's almost no apps or games for it.
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OTOH, Gnome had to be written because of KDE's relationship to proprietary software. For many years, KDE was a better overall environment and attracted more users. But as the corporate world began to look for ways to market Linux-based distros, it was Gnome's relative purity (not any of its technical merits, which are few) that got KDE pushed to the sidelines.
Are we now going to see Gnome become the encumbered environment that's more popular with users, and KDE freer one?
Its kind of absurd when you think about it. Copying Microsoft's stuff will only make Gnome more like WINE, only less popular. And can you see GNU making further concessions for Microsoft's patented ideas within their projects?? Don't be ridiculous!
de Icaza and his troop want to continue a career of aping Microsoft's binary components while leaving almost all of the design and other heavy lifting to the latter. They are not worth the trouble that brings. Let them fork Gnome into something else and then see which environment continues to get included in the corporate-supported distros.
Once something is leaked you can take down all the websites you want, but you won't stop P2P Sharing.
Indeed, it has already shown up on the anonymous I2P network.
I would look in backports. I generally find what I'm looking for in there.
Umm, that's not going to work for 70% of the techies and 100% of the non-techies that I know.
Firefox of course usually comes installed out of the box, so it isn't an issue.
Yeah, but how does a user get a current version of Firefox on an 18-month old distro like Ubuntu LTS?
I was going to say that people keep reaching for an example like Firefox because to use an ISV-distributed program like Photoshop would be odd: Photoshop and similar programs don't exist for FOSS distros. But then I remembered that even Firefox is an appropriate example of the problem.
The levels of denial in this discussion are epic: +5 for that ignorant one-liner?
Install this: Independent Software Vendors (ISVs). They make applications that are distributed independently and do not come with an OS attached.
what's awkward about totally automatic security updates
Wrong question. It should be: "What's awkward about managing apps that are lumped into one huge repository along with the OS?"
You see, application developers stay away from systems that don't clearly define what is and isn't included in the OS. Doubly so when the gatekeepers of that OS constantly demand or imply that apps must be surrendered to and repackaged by a clueless committee of distro managers. Compile-time and packaging decisions can be important for app developers; so why aren't those decisions being made by the developers?
Here's another question: Why are the Ubuntu LTS installs I did sitting there with no easy way for their owners to upgrade to current versions of Firefox and OpenOffice??
And a final one: What makes you think that inserting distro managers (OS people) in-between app developers and their end users will promote healthy relationships? Why is the operating system group the primary contact for people using scores of applications in the Linux realm?
Free software isn't socialism, it's the new capitalism. It's the small guy capitalism.
Or rather, FOSS stands in for capitalism where the latter should be if the free market hadn't failed back in the 90s. FOSS probably fits the "libertarian-socialist" mold more closely than other isms: There is a lot of resource sharing and a tendency away from highly concentrated power.
Of course that has its downsides, too. What we need more than anything is a strongly democratic (and educated) society where a wide range of organizational principles ('isms') can mix and match as needed.
http://i2p2.de
Bitter much?
It shows how banks have failed us by ignoring the push for domestic solar energy. This type of renewable energy has proved an excellent (low-risk) investment so you'd think that banks would be eager to offer financing at low interest rates.
There is a much larger processing requirement for transferring everything via https plus the bandwidth requirement is higher.
Most browsers cache the symmetric session key so it can keep re-using the secure link instantly. Its plenty fast for subsequent requests.
The main drag with Https is the non-caching of page content. It would be nice if users could turn on caching on a site-by-site basis, thus opening up the possibility of making non-critical sites somewhat more private.
Supertux 2
Pingus
Enigma
Chromium BSU
KSudoku (very nice under KDE4 if you can deal with that)
Frozen Bubble
Puppy Games also has some nice shoot-em-ups that run on Linux. Their titles are cheap, pretty fun to play and have good sized trial modes. My fav here is Ultratron (inspired by Robotron 2084) and also Titan Attacks.
Automated letter printing and phone calls are an incredibly easy undertaking for a corporate entity like Comcast. I wonder what their excuse is for trying to mess with this stuff in-band?
Thank goodness I'm not the only one here who thinks this will be an excuse for Comcast to do nasty things to our traffic. Consider that very many torrent connections are encrypted these days -- and so are malware connections.
I, for one, do not want to be harassed because I have traffic that Comcast can't deep-inspect, going to hosts that Comcast's IP lawyers may not like. Nor do I want to see them doing this via web injection, which is just another form of data falsification which Comcast used to defend to the hilt until the government said absolutely NO.
At the very least Comcast should have the decency to contact people out-of-band (phone or mail), which is always the best way to handle compromised security.
I know TFA shows it on Comcast's page.. but still this is Comcast we're talking about. Are they going to just inject a pop-up while I'm randomly surfing?
Also, prepare for brand-new phishing tactics in 3, 2, 1..
Also, joining the chorus on this being tied to anti-P2P intentions.
Indeed, I'm thinking this could be a pretext to start routinely injecting crap into webpages... back to their old data falsification ways.
And then there's software like I2P that the user should intentionally conceal on an encrypted system.
Such a law may eventually be interpreted to mean "all shared files should be easily recognizable to police officers".
North American powers, too.
Score:1 Flamebait
...US interests and sovereignty...
As in: US military bases in every region and a general policy of imperialism.
Cutting through the euphemisms of monumental bloodlust and theft do make the neocons irritable!
Well, sorry but the imperialist duck remains such an animal and there is no way around that.
Practice using "force projection" and "sovereignty" within the same paragraph and see if you can't spot the deep ironies and double-think.
into other countries, as the British Empire discovered.
Interesting comment!
...US interests and sovereignty...
As in: US military bases in every region and a general policy of imperialism.
...is she could have found some way of hiding the data so it wouldn't get inspected, and its somewhat probable her adversary in court could have accused her of smuggling sensitive data across the border.
The layers above Linux + GNU tools are always changing and have very different behaviors even between distros using the same DE. A typical 28-year old who has dappled with "Linux" in the form of the Walmart special (enlightenment DE), an EeePC (Xandros KDE 3), his friend's custom-installed OS (Gnome or KDE4) and maybe 2 or 3 handheld devices described as "Linux" with no discernably common surface features and no assurances they will sync with "Linux" groupwares (now that's a joke).
For both the novice AND the power-user set, the "Linux" thing looks like a lot of nonsensical blather. You have to have worked on web servers to know that "Linux" means something more stable than a bunch of clowns trying to waste you time with stuff that always looks and acts different.
So I'll believe that users are ready for "Linux" (or vice-versa) when Apple increases their unit sales by marketing "XNU BSD" to a TV audience. Of course, Apple would never do that because it would be insanely stupid which IMHO says something about the striking misapprehension that FOSS techies have of personal computing in general.
Marketing "Linux" to non-sysadmin types is STUPID!! As a demographic they will never, never ever "get" something they aren't equipped to even understand. Now please spare the rest of humanity this subcultural mania known as "getting people to use Desktop Linux". Linux is not a Firefox or an OpenOffice nor is it like OS X or Windows.
It isn't even like Android, which is itself Linux-based. Like OS X and Windows, Android is a consumer platform with well-defined UI and an SDK offering rich functionality; Firefox and OOo also fit this description somewhat (and I applaud Mozilla for not allowing people to make changes to Firefox and pass it off as "Firefox").
OTOH "Desktop Linux" is a morass of non-platform "distros" that don't even offer a comprehensive SDK and where the default APIs are dropped from the default installation from year to year when they fall out of fashion. Its too chaotic for most app developers (ISVs) to cope with, so -- surprise! -- there's almost no apps or games for it.
And WHO fixed it??
Debating whether Audi or Ferrari are better in a world without fuel, maybe?
Or Gremlin vs. Pacer