I can't say I agree with you. When I tried Caldera before I was quite impressed by their support of Novell Netware and that is what I need at work.
The Linux client for Netware that came with OpenLinux 2.3 rocked! Browsing our servers through the NDS tree was seamless, and it way surpassed the ncputils package that comes with Redhat.
This feature alone is worth the licensing to me and I suspect for the millions of others who stayed with Netware for its superior file and print services. And everyone knows that Unix is best for application servers so the question was how to combine Netware & Linux on the desktop. Caldera seems to be the answer.
OTOH, the hardware support for laptops in 2.3 was not as good as Redhat and I ran into a couple of apps that wouldn't work right on Caldera but were certified for Redhat. So I can't wait to get this newly released version and give it a whirl.
Also since Netware 6 has Native File Access which allows Linux/Windows/Mac Pc's to connect using their basic builtin protocols and clients, the window of opportunity may be closing for the Linux Netware client to gain a toe hold in the enterprise environment.
Existing wiretap laws require warrants for each telephone, even though criminals and terrorists might use dozens of phones or a variety of communications systems.
Do terrorists pay for dozens of phones? Public phones may already be tapped without a warrant. I don't agree with the decision but the precedent has been set.
Besides which, when they let someone suspected of taking part in as many as six previous hijackings enter the country they should automatically ask for warrants to track and trace him. And do they even need warrants to investigate foreign nationals?
And Katz's suggestion that these deprivations of our rights would only be temporary flys in the face of history and common sense.
The removal of our civil rights is not necessary to investigate terrorists. Let the FBI do their job without accomplishing the terrorists objective which is to cause emotional distress to Americans. Because that is what spying on US citizens will cause.
Don't be too quick to dismiss his comment! He's right when you think about it.;^)
When another company gains the desktop monopoly, breaks the law, proves that they cannot be trusted, and forces a personal information gathering service down the world's throat then we should be paranoid about them as well.
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You seem to be saying that having competetive projects such as Gnome and KDE is more in line with Capitalism, as opposed to say, a one-vendor "command driven economy" style such as Windows or pre-democracy Russia.:-)
2- If they ever did want it ported to other platforms, there are companies (you know who they are) that will do the porting for you (yes, that includes porting DX games).
Until that company goes out of business because most of the punks playing games will spend hundreds of $ on the same old FPS windows games but not a thing for Linux games.
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I have found ATI to have a great set of features for the price but always buggy drivers under Windows.
But back in the DOS days they had some really cool products like the EGA Wonder that let me see some CGA and EGA modes on even a monochrome monitor.
And on my $350 CGA monitor I could play Space Quest and Leisure Suit Larry in glorious 16 colors.
The only ATI drivers that matter now are for XFree86. As long as they open the hardware specs for Open Sourcerers then I will buy from them.
Anyway, enough of my rant. I hope a miracle happens and Loki is able to pull out of this one. I will make sure to purchase every Loki game I can see at Fry's later on this week.
Good luck finding it at Fry's. I was just at a Fry's in the LosAngeles area last week and couldn't find a single Linux game. I went there to see if they had the newer Loki games because the Microcenter in Cincinnati only has the same old ones that I have already bought.
I have been wanting to buy the games at retail outlets instead of online because I was hoping that if they kept them in stock people would notice the ever increasing number of commercial Linux applications. However I have wondered whether Loki makes more money selling them direct online. Regardless, I guess I better hurry up and buy online now before my opportunity is gone.
Also I wonder if Loki could start porting non-games like Quickbooks or Eudora.
>The last time Mr. Softy blew off a challenge was the Internet, circa early nineties, and we saw how swift and serious the course alteration there was.
It was actually the mid 90's and the course alteration only appeared swift and serious if you believed what Microsoft's lackeys wrote in their pc magazine columns.
During the course of the Antitrust proceedings it was revealed that Microsoft knew long before windows 95 was released how important the Internet was to become. Otherwise why offer to split the browser market with netscape? Why license the Mosaic source code and repackage it as internet explorer, which was then bundled with 95? Why else bundle a TCPIP stack with 95, thereby squeezing out Hummingbird, FTP software, Trumpet, etc.?
The internet didn't fit perfectly with their established business model so they had to pretend they were not moving in that direction to keep their corporate sheep from straying. But once enough people had gotten on the internet and they couldn't mislead any longer, microsoft suddenly "saw the light" and literally within days released many months worth of code.
Your question implies that you believe no individual would release copyrightable material unless he meant to make a monetary profit by doing so. There are many selfless people in this world who are happy to contribute to the betterment of mankind.
And even a Ferengi might see that a website which provides free access to some information will capture eyeballs, some of whom will buy other materials on that site.
>"Terminal emulator program" means NOTHING to the "average" user, but "Shell" "Console" or "GNOME Prompt" would.
I don't think so. When I help users over the phone and I tell them to open a "DOS prompt" or "Command prompt" about 3/4 of them say 'What!?!? How do I do that?'
>Linux will probably NEVER get the drooling idiots, but do we want them?
Yes, we do. There is strength in numbers due to something called "economies of scale". Look it up. Also it would be in bad taste to abandon Grandma just because she has a hard time with Windows.
I have heard of people referred to as Linux 'elitists' before, but I always thought they were a myth or just Microsoft devotees pretending to be Linux enthusiasts to give us a bad name. If you are neither of those things then please think hard about how to include those who are less adept with technology.
I think that Linux distro's will be far easier to use than Windows in a few short years, like Palm Pilots on steroids, yet the advanced user will be able to get to all the powerful tools which are tucked away out of sight.
I think you are 100% right on this. Linux distro's can't be too innovative with the interface yet because the average person already is somewhat familiar with windows.
The way to advance Linux on the desktop is to make something that looks just like windows. Then when there are two kinds of windows, one that is stable and free and one that crashes and costs $200, then the choice will be clear to all consumers.
Corporations especially will enjoy saving several hundred dollars (windows + office) multiplied by hundreds or thousands of desktops. And that savings happens for each upgrade cycle which is typically about 2 years. There is also the savings due to users not sitting for 10 minutes 3x a day waiting for windows to reboot.
Honestly though, some machines can be used for days before crashing. It seems to be a crapshoot. However there is obviously a significant amount of savings that will go directly to the bottom line and thus our stock portfolios and profit sharing programs!:^D
What a load of bull! Microsoft can bundle any damn thing it wants. All they have to do is say its part of the OS. The recent anti-trust ruling at the appeals court level proved that.
What Microsoft cannot do due to the Sun/Java ruling is to call their virtual machine "Java".
Very true. I wish I had a moderator point for you.
Furthermore, the 'great american inventor' didn't invent hardly any of the inventions credited to him. He had a laboratory where he hired brilliant but introverted, couldn't sell ice cubes in hell, geeks to invent things, and let him promote and take credit for those ideas.
His primary contribution to America's economic machine was to invent a system of mass producing intellectual "property".
The legal reason for that is that the wiretapping statute only applies to audio recordings, not video, so the police and the department stores can take all the pictures of you they want.
Exactly! This is the same reason I can rig my rental property with hidden cameras, lease it to your mama, and sell a live video feed of her on my website all without her consent or knowledge. And it's perfectly legal! Ain't America great?
Check it out! It's enema night at your mom's house.
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New feeds in homes I don't own, after all only the breaking and entering is illegal. If you don't get caught doing that then there's nothing they can do about it.
Disclaimer: I don't really do this so don't flame please.
That seems a bit unjustified considering that the case is still under heavy appeal and that the government still has a long, long, long way to go before they can call this one "done".
Of course it's under heavy appeal. And if Hitler had had as much money and as many lawyers as Microsoft, his case would still be under heavy appeal.
1.5 Million years is a wink of an eye in relation to the age of the earth. So how often does stuff like this happen? With our galaxy colliding into the Andromeda galaxy, I wonder if there will be even closer calls eventually.
Folks, it ain't over. Linux has the mindshare now. Linux has IBM. Microsoft has been forced to make a really stable OS (2000) to compete.
Windows 2000 isn't stable at all. It has crashed twice on me just this morning. BSOD's. But if you want to share some of what you are smoking, I'll take a puff.
Who do you think nominates judges to the Supreme Court? Any judge who wants to further his career does whatever he thinks will please those who will make or break him. Believing that the executive branch has nothing to do with this injustice is childish and ignorant.
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I can't say I agree with you. When I tried Caldera before I was quite impressed by their support of Novell Netware and that is what I need at work.
The Linux client for Netware that came with OpenLinux 2.3 rocked! Browsing our servers through the NDS tree was seamless, and it way surpassed the ncputils package that comes with Redhat.
This feature alone is worth the licensing to me and I suspect for the millions of others who stayed with Netware for its superior file and print services. And everyone knows that Unix is best for application servers so the question was how to combine Netware & Linux on the desktop. Caldera seems to be the answer.
OTOH, the hardware support for laptops in 2.3 was not as good as Redhat and I ran into a couple of apps that wouldn't work right on Caldera but were certified for Redhat. So I can't wait to get this newly released version and give it a whirl.
Also since Netware 6 has Native File Access which allows Linux/Windows/Mac Pc's to connect using their basic builtin protocols and clients, the window of opportunity may be closing for the Linux Netware client to gain a toe hold in the enterprise environment.
Do terrorists pay for dozens of phones? Public phones may already be tapped without a warrant. I don't agree with the decision but the precedent has been set.
Besides which, when they let someone suspected of taking part in as many as six previous hijackings enter the country they should automatically ask for warrants to track and trace him. And do they even need warrants to investigate foreign nationals?
And Katz's suggestion that these deprivations of our rights would only be temporary flys in the face of history and common sense.
The removal of our civil rights is not necessary to investigate terrorists. Let the FBI do their job without accomplishing the terrorists objective which is to cause emotional distress to Americans. Because that is what spying on US citizens will cause.
I'm guessing Redneck Rampage with the Cuss pack installed wouldn't fly?
It's tatooed on my forehead. 01010011010
Don't be too quick to dismiss his comment! He's right when you think about it. ;^)
When another company gains the desktop monopoly, breaks the law, proves that they cannot be trusted, and forces a personal information gathering service down the world's throat then we should be paranoid about them as well.
You seem to be saying that having competetive projects such as Gnome and KDE is more in line with Capitalism, as opposed to say, a one-vendor "command driven economy" style such as Windows or pre-democracy Russia. :-)
A lady where I work just had to do exactly that. :-)
And I will soon convert thousands of mp3's into ogg vorbis.
That's why Bill built his castle near Seattle.
Puget Sound makes a hell of a moat!
Until that company goes out of business because most of the punks playing games will spend hundreds of $ on the same old FPS windows games but not a thing for Linux games.
I have found ATI to have a great set of features for the price but always buggy drivers under Windows.
But back in the DOS days they had some really cool products like the EGA Wonder that let me see some CGA and EGA modes on even a monochrome monitor.
And on my $350 CGA monitor I could play Space Quest and Leisure Suit Larry in glorious 16 colors.
The only ATI drivers that matter now are for XFree86. As long as they open the hardware specs for Open Sourcerers then I will buy from them.
it should be part of the public domain.
Yes it should be part of the public domain just like the method the egyptians used to levitate 300 ton blocks using telekinesis.
Good luck finding it at Fry's. I was just at a Fry's in the LosAngeles area last week and couldn't find a single Linux game. I went there to see if they had the newer Loki games because the Microcenter in Cincinnati only has the same old ones that I have already bought.
I have been wanting to buy the games at retail outlets instead of online because I was hoping that if they kept them in stock people would notice the ever increasing number of commercial Linux applications. However I have wondered whether Loki makes more money selling them direct online. Regardless, I guess I better hurry up and buy online now before my opportunity is gone.
Also I wonder if Loki could start porting non-games like Quickbooks or Eudora.
It is an exact 1/8 scale model of the Russian "Buran" space shuttle."
So it's an exact 1/16 scale model of the US Space Shuttle. :-)
>The last time Mr. Softy blew off a challenge was the Internet, circa early nineties, and we saw how swift and serious the course alteration there was.
It was actually the mid 90's and the course alteration only appeared swift and serious if you believed what Microsoft's lackeys wrote in their pc magazine columns.
During the course of the Antitrust proceedings it was revealed that Microsoft knew long before windows 95 was released how important the Internet was to become. Otherwise why offer to split the browser market with netscape? Why license the Mosaic source code and repackage it as internet explorer, which was then bundled with 95? Why else bundle a TCPIP stack with 95, thereby squeezing out Hummingbird, FTP software, Trumpet, etc.?
The internet didn't fit perfectly with their established business model so they had to pretend they were not moving in that direction to keep their corporate sheep from straying. But once enough people had gotten on the internet and they couldn't mislead any longer, microsoft suddenly "saw the light" and literally within days released many months worth of code.
Your question implies that you believe no individual would release copyrightable material unless he meant to make a monetary profit by doing so. There are many selfless people in this world who are happy to contribute to the betterment of mankind.
And even a Ferengi might see that a website which provides free access to some information will capture eyeballs, some of whom will buy other materials on that site.
Let me guess. Wince3.0 is code named "Medusa".
>"Terminal emulator program" means NOTHING to the "average" user, but "Shell" "Console" or "GNOME Prompt" would.
I don't think so. When I help users over the phone and I tell them to open a "DOS prompt" or "Command prompt" about 3/4 of them say 'What!?!? How do I do that?'
>Linux will probably NEVER get the drooling idiots, but do we want them?
Yes, we do. There is strength in numbers due to something called "economies of scale". Look it up. Also it would be in bad taste to abandon Grandma just because she has a hard time with Windows.
I have heard of people referred to as Linux 'elitists' before, but I always thought they were a myth or just Microsoft devotees pretending to be Linux enthusiasts to give us a bad name. If you are neither of those things then please think hard about how to include those who are less adept with technology.
I think that Linux distro's will be far easier to use than Windows in a few short years, like Palm Pilots on steroids, yet the advanced user will be able to get to all the powerful tools which are tucked away out of sight.
I think you are 100% right on this. Linux distro's can't be too innovative with the interface yet because the average person already is somewhat familiar with windows.
:^D
The way to advance Linux on the desktop is to make something that looks just like windows. Then when there are two kinds of windows, one that is stable and free and one that crashes and costs $200, then the choice will be clear to all consumers.
Corporations especially will enjoy saving several hundred dollars (windows + office) multiplied by hundreds or thousands of desktops. And that savings happens for each upgrade cycle which is typically about 2 years. There is also the savings due to users not sitting for 10 minutes 3x a day waiting for windows to reboot.
Honestly though, some machines can be used for days before crashing. It seems to be a crapshoot. However there is obviously a significant amount of savings that will go directly to the bottom line and thus our stock portfolios and profit sharing programs!
What a load of bull! Microsoft can bundle any damn thing it wants. All they have to do is say its part of the OS. The recent anti-trust ruling at the appeals court level proved that.
What Microsoft cannot do due to the Sun/Java ruling is to call their virtual machine "Java".
Very true. I wish I had a moderator point for you.
Furthermore, the 'great american inventor' didn't invent hardly any of the inventions credited to him. He had a laboratory where he hired brilliant but introverted, couldn't sell ice cubes in hell, geeks to invent things, and let him promote and take credit for those ideas.
His primary contribution to America's economic machine was to invent a system of mass producing intellectual "property".
Exactly! This is the same reason I can rig my rental property with hidden cameras, lease it to your mama, and sell a live video feed of her on my website all without her consent or knowledge. And it's perfectly legal! Ain't America great?
Check it out! It's enema night at your mom's house.
Next week: Grandma's monthly breast self exam!
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New feeds in homes I don't own, after all only the breaking and entering is illegal. If you don't get caught doing that then there's nothing they can do about it.
Disclaimer: I don't really do this so don't flame please.
Of course it's under heavy appeal. And if Hitler had had as much money and as many lawyers as Microsoft, his case would still be under heavy appeal.
1.5 Million years is a wink of an eye in relation to the age of the earth. So how often does stuff like this happen? With our galaxy colliding into the Andromeda galaxy, I wonder if there will be even closer calls eventually.
Windows 2000 isn't stable at all. It has crashed twice on me just this morning. BSOD's. But if you want to share some of what you are smoking, I'll take a puff.
Who do you think nominates judges to the Supreme Court? Any judge who wants to further his career does whatever he thinks will please those who will make or break him. Believing that the executive branch has nothing to do with this injustice is childish and ignorant.