The univerisity I go to, Kettering , is based on the idea of co-op education. Every one has to have a co-op, usually for all five years that you are there.
And I know many college students who have the same problem you do. I know I did at my co-op when I first started. They had me doing mostly paper work for new job contracts and it was driving me nuts(especially because there wasn't much of it because of y2k upgrades).
I don't fault them for doing this, they didn't know what I could do. It would be much worse for the company, and the student, if they expect you to already be able to do the same job that the engineer's that have degrees are doing. It takes a balancing act to figure out where each individual's skills fall in.
As I was saying they had me doing paper work, and not much of it, maybe 8 hours worth a week. So I spent my free time productivly. The company did database programming in a language called PICK, so I spent all my free time at work teaching myself PICK. After a while my mangers walked by and noticed what I was doing. They were shocked that I already knew how to program, and took the initiative to learn the language that they used. The next day I came in and had a stack of modifications that they wanted me to make to different parts of the code.
So put forth some initiative and show them that you are capable, and want to do more, and you just might be suprised.
Even if not, be happy you're actually doing something. I know plenty of co-ops that sit at their desk all day and just twiddle their thumbs.
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I can't wait to hear you say how much free time you have during college after you've been there a while and get bogged down with actual work:)
I'm sick of hearing every one complain about how there are no new styles of game play coming out.
I agree, there haven't been any completely brand new game genres in a while. And yes, game companies keep coming out with clones of the popular games.
But guess what, this is nothing new. How many Pac-Man clones were there, and Space Invaders, that you all keep looking back at so fondly?
Yes there were great games in the past, I personally also enjoy the games I grew up playing more than new games. But lack of inovation is something that has been happening since day 2 of the computer game industry.
How many games that came out ten years ago do you hate, or don't even remeber because they weren't anything new or spectacular?
Truly Inovative games only come out every few years, and while yes it's been a while, more will eventually come out.
How often do you see Playboy or Penthouse in a library?
Actually, at my local library they have Playboy articles on their magazine search engine. I remember doing a paper on the history of rock and roll, and found a great series of articles from Playboy on the history of rock and roll, so of course I had to use a bunch of references from there (my teacher, who was a Priest, didn't appreciate it very much though:)
No, not all people have the "entitlement" attitude. But look at some of the posts on this thread, particularly the one from the guy who thought the industry owed him something because of his big $$ educational investment. My point is that the industry owes him nothing. It's up to him to prove that he's useful to someone.
Actually, The money that I spent isn't the only reason why I think that I deserve to make a high living.
As I put in my post I've also worked hard to earn numerous certifications to prove my worth, I've also worked full time for the last 2 1/2 years at a small database consulting company, to make sure that when I get out of college I have actual real world experiance and not just a bunch of theoretical knowledge that I've learned at school.
But, I feel that the amount of the money that I spent on my education should be reflected in what I make when I leave. And not because I spent x amount of money, but because I spent x amount of money to go to a very good college to get the best education that I can get, I could of just as easly gone to a community college and gotten a degree, or just decided to drop out and start working. But, while I have been offered good paying jobs in programming with out my degree, I feel that you should have to work hard to get what you want, and I have, and that's why I feel I'm entitled to the money that I will make (the $70,000 figure price is from the offer that my current employer has already made).
The Entitlement Generation is an attitude that began with the hippies of the 60s, but is going full-force among the GenX crowd. They feel they are entitled to the big salary coming out of college If they're GenXer's coming out of college now, it's took them quite a while(The last of the genXers were born around '76 I think) I'm of the next generation (Gen Y or whatever the hell else you would like to call it) And Yes, After spending close to $100,000 on my education, plus getting 2 1/2 years of actual co-op time in the computer industry, and spending a couple of thousand dollars to get my Oracle and MCSE, A+, and other certifications, I think that I should get at least 80K+ when I get out of school next year.
I also think that programs like Napster should be able to operate. While I don't use it because I don't have a fast enough connection. I think that programs like this should be available as a distribution channel for artists that aren't big enough/ or don't want to be associated with RIAA.
I happen to be a big fan of techno music. And while I can get mix tapes of all the local DJ's that I want with ease at parties, but it's really hard to get music from out of state DJ's that that either I've seen because they have come to Detroit, or even one's that I've never heard of.
I wonder what is going to happen to the list that contains all of us who read this review? Are we going to be flagged as possible threats to these Agencies;>
In the RIAA text they said that the law was passed in 1992, correct me if I am wrong, but.mp3 technology wasn't even created yet, or at least not very popular. The same goes with most other current, popular ways of digitally copying audio files.
The article then goes on to say:
Computers and general-purpose computer peripheral devices are not covered by the Audio Home Recording Act
It does not anywhere that, I can see, say that Computers and peripheral devices are explicitly forbidden by the AHRA to be used to copy audio.
Or does the AHRA have a clause that says something to the effect of "Recording audio under any future digital technology will be illegal."
But then again I haven't read the actual AHRA, though.
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The univerisity I go to, Kettering , is based on the idea of co-op education. Every one has to have a co-op, usually for all five years that you are there.
And I know many college students who have the same problem you do. I know I did at my co-op when I first started. They had me doing mostly paper work for new job contracts and it was driving me nuts(especially because there wasn't much of it because of y2k upgrades).
I don't fault them for doing this, they didn't know what I could do. It would be much worse for the company, and the student, if they expect you to already be able to do the same job that the engineer's that have degrees are doing. It takes a balancing act to figure out where each individual's skills fall in.
As I was saying they had me doing paper work, and not much of it, maybe 8 hours worth a week. So I spent my free time productivly. The company did database programming in a language called PICK, so I spent all my free time at work teaching myself PICK. After a while my mangers walked by and noticed what I was doing. They were shocked that I already knew how to program, and took the initiative to learn the language that they used. The next day I came in and had a stack of modifications that they wanted me to make to different parts of the code.
So put forth some initiative and show them that you are capable, and want to do more, and you just might be suprised.
Even if not, be happy you're actually doing something. I know plenty of co-ops that sit at their desk all day and just twiddle their thumbs.
I'm sure Van Gogh was a hit with the ladies (particularily after he cut off his ear.)
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has a cellphone . Well, now is your chance to capitalize
on this ! WE will help YOU decrease perceived waiting
time by 130% and turn your business into an E-BUSINESS
. You are guaranteed to succeed because we take all
the risk . But don't believe us ! Prof Ames of Massachusetts
tried us and says "My only problem now is where to
park all my cars" ! We are licensed to operate in all
states ! We beseech you - act now . Sign up a friend
and your friend will be rich too ! Thank-you for your
serious consideration of our offer !
In college, classes only occupy a small portion of your day. Unlike work in an IT department, which we leave you drained and too tired to really do meaningful independent work, college will leave you with plenty of time to pursue whatever you want.
:)
I can't wait to hear you say how much free time you have during college after you've been there a while and get bogged down with actual work
Ash's story is presented as an academic work, originally published by a University Press in 2001.
How did the book get published in 2001, when it's only 2000 now?
I'm sick of hearing every one complain about how there are no new styles of game play coming out.
I agree, there haven't been any completely brand new game genres in a while. And yes, game companies keep coming out with clones of the popular games.
But guess what, this is nothing new. How many Pac-Man clones were there, and Space Invaders, that you all keep looking back at so fondly?
Yes there were great games in the past, I personally also enjoy the games I grew up playing more than new games. But lack of inovation is something that has been happening since day 2 of the computer game industry.
How many games that came out ten years ago do you hate, or don't even remeber because they weren't anything new or spectacular?
Truly Inovative games only come out every few years, and while yes it's been a while, more will eventually come out.
Why does the FBI get to choose the University that is going to review Carnivore in the first place?
Well if you ask Katz he'll tell you it's a conspiracy, because everyone knows the Universities are all for sale now.
How often do you see Playboy or Penthouse in a library?
Actually, at my local library they have Playboy articles on their magazine search engine. I remember doing a paper on the history of rock and roll, and found a great series of articles from Playboy on the history of rock and roll, so of course I had to use a bunch of references from there (my teacher, who was a Priest, didn't appreciate it very much though:)
No, not all people have the "entitlement" attitude. But look at some of the posts on this thread, particularly the one from the guy who thought the industry owed him something because of his big $$ educational investment. My point is that the industry owes him nothing. It's up to him to prove that he's useful to someone.
Actually, The money that I spent isn't the only reason why I think that I deserve to make a high living.
As I put in my post I've also worked hard to earn numerous certifications to prove my worth, I've also worked full time for the last 2 1/2 years at a small database consulting company, to make sure that when I get out of college I have actual real world experiance and not just a bunch of theoretical knowledge that I've learned at school.
But, I feel that the amount of the money that I spent on my education should be reflected in what I make when I leave. And not because I spent x amount of money, but because I spent x amount of money to go to a very good college to get the best education that I can get, I could of just as easly gone to a community college and gotten a degree, or just decided to drop out and start working. But, while I have been offered good paying jobs in programming with out my degree, I feel that you should have to work hard to get what you want, and I have, and that's why I feel I'm entitled to the money that I will make (the $70,000 figure price is from the offer that my current employer has already made).
The Entitlement Generation is an attitude that began with the hippies of the 60s, but is going full-force among the GenX crowd. They feel they are entitled to the big salary coming out of college
If they're GenXer's coming out of college now, it's took them quite a while(The last of the genXers were born around '76 I think) I'm of the next generation (Gen Y or whatever the hell else you would like to call it) And Yes, After spending close to $100,000 on my education, plus getting 2 1/2 years of actual co-op time in the computer industry, and spending a couple of thousand dollars to get my Oracle and MCSE, A+, and other certifications, I think that I should get at least 80K+ when I get out of school next year.
I also think that programs like Napster should be able to operate. While I don't use it because I don't have a fast enough connection. I think that programs like this should be available as a distribution channel for artists that aren't big enough/ or don't want to be associated with RIAA.
I happen to be a big fan of techno music. And while I can get mix tapes of all the local DJ's that I want with ease at parties, but it's really hard to get music from out of state DJ's that that either I've seen because they have come to Detroit, or even one's that I've never heard of.
I wonder what is going to happen to the list that contains all of us who read this review? ;>
Are we going to be flagged as possible threats to these Agencies
The article then goes on to say:
Computers and general-purpose computer peripheral devices are not covered by the Audio Home Recording Act
It does not anywhere that, I can see, say that Computers and peripheral devices are explicitly forbidden by the AHRA to be used to copy audio.
Or does the AHRA have a clause that says something to the effect of "Recording audio under any future digital technology will be illegal."
But then again I haven't read the actual AHRA, though.
One feature will be that it will cause Linux to crash on a regular basis and display a blue screen of death