While the Kylix IDE environment itself is driven with the Wine libs the applications it produces are compiled natively for Linux, currently using Qt as the toolkit. Try out the open edition for yourself and see.
You're forgetting that there are a lot of people that for one reason or another do not want to code in C++. Exactly because GTK+ was written in plain C there now exist a multitude of language bindings, far more than Qt offers at last count (PHP-GTK anyone:) I'm, actually writing a small GUI for log parsing and I like it!). The bindings haven't been perfect in the past, but they are becoming pretty mature now and a lot of applications are being written against the GTK-- C++ bindings for example. I also expect the GTK+ libraries to adapt far better to languages not even on the horizon yet, while I expect most Qt developers to stick with C++.
In the end, score one for choice, because at the end of the day we've got two excellent toolkits to choose from. I'm looking forward to learning and programing more with Qt.
Mono has a lot of technical merit, don't shoot it down only because it's based on.net. It just might deliver what CORBA only promised, language independent component reuse. I know I wouldn't mind mixing for example Kylix generated GUI frontends with Java/C# running the logic in the background, transparently (and natively!). I surely hope that by the time we reach GNOME 4 (and we're talking 2-4 years from now here) we're not still writing GUI applications in C, as is the state with most GNOME apps now.
Remeber that Mono isn't.net, it's not controlled by Microsoft, it's a reimplementation of the.net class libraries while also bringing in a C# compiler as a bonus (Believe me, there are plenty of worse languages to code in). The Mono libraries are Open Source (Same license as Xfree86, and I don't hear anyone bitching about the license of that particular piece of software) and will probably help bring a lot of new neat Open Source applications, giving especially GUI programs a boost.
A few suggestions. First of all, why rm -rf the mozilla directory directly? Do it after the wget stage and you can safely cancel the download (or it might just fail for some reason, leaving you with no mozilla). Second, after rm -rf mozilla there will be no mozilla/plugins directory, so the second last line is not needed.
Good idea about linking the plugins directory, I've got to integrate that into my own script;)
Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain.
Also, some small states like San Marino, Monaco, the Vatican etc. will be using the euro, and Cuba (the government at least). Major chains in the UK will also accept the euro.
Telsa Gwynne works on the GNOME Documentation Project. Besides, the board is not about coding, we need a well-balanced board of people with many different skills.
Creatives replacement for the aging Soundblaster Live series, the Audigy series, have Firewire connectors. Dunno if the card is any good, but it's certainly going to help bringing Firewire support to the PC crowd.
Hilight: A friend of mine (which we will call "Dave" to keep his real name anonymous) works there and was assigned to the XBOX project a month ago. (shocking!) Now you may imagine it must been a really busy month building and testing XBOXes and stuff but.. can you handle the truth? can you?!
According to Dave he has spent the last month doing.. (dramatic pause!) absolutely nothing. As a matter of fact he has been lingering around watching videos on the net and trying to appear to be busy. Why? because they didnt have anything to build! the xbox design finally went into production last SUNDAY! (september 23 2001) (truly shocking!!)
Now what happens if you start production on Sunday on a Mexican factory ? (dramatic pause allowing you to answer) NOBODY is there to do it! only those who are unlucky enough to be there doing extra time, (like poor old Dave was) But they were ORDERED to do it anyway. No QA guys, no big bosses nothing, just a bunch of employees, trying to build a machine for the first time ever! (shocking, er, shocking!)
As you may have guessed things didnt went very smooth, as a matter of fact they didnt go very smooth at all! lots of machines were so defective they didnt pass the normal standards and went back to the line again, Dave and his friend expent hours after hours trying to build the damn boxes but they still were defective, to make a large awful history short they only were able to build 10 Xboxes that day! 10! and those XBOXES who did make it only passed standard tests! no other testing was applied!
It's not quite up to Java GNOME functionality yet, which is now compilable to native binaries, with gcc3 (For those of us who couldn't care less about platform independence but really like Java as a modern language). More choice is always good however.
Open Office 6 was not released on wednesday. They released a build called Open Office 6 beta 638c. It's more like a milestone release on the way to a proper version 6. Sort of like what mozilla does. The final version isn't scheduled for some time yet, see the roadmap.
Things like this, not really bugs, are often also submitted into Bugzilla because it creates a place where you can hold a public discussion about them.
I like it. It doesn't crash. It renders pages quickly and correctly. In Windows I can use the "-turbo" command line switch to get IE like startup speed (I hope this makes it to the Linux builds too). But the biggest improvement over 0.9.2 is in my opinion that a window that is done loading doesn't steal my focus any longer! Previously you couldn't really have a lot of browser windows open because they constantly kept stealing the focus from each other.
I also like that you can open a link in a new window with the middle button. It's always worked like that on Linux, but it now also works in Windows. It's definitely ready for daily use IMHO.
Anyone have suggestions for references an easy-to-install intrusion detection system? Maybe with a GUI?
Shameless plug: Check out my Firestarter GNOME firewall/monitoring software. The first step in breaking in is always surveying the ports of the machine, Firestarter lights up like a christmas tree when someone sweeps over your ports. Integration with the GNOME panel makes the program as easy to ignore as an ICQ client in normal operation, but still allows the program to alert you when necessary. Sort of like ZoneAlarm or BlackIce for That Other OS.
It works on both Linux 2.4 and 2.2 systems. I would say that the scripts the wizard generates for 2.4 are better than the 2.2 ones.
What I really liked about the MOO games was that the races all played differently and had real character. You had the spying Darloks and the intelligent Mentars etc. Too many games think that more == better. Space Empires IV, Stars! etc. all throw a gazillion similiar races and planets into a lifeless galaxy. You just don't care if your generic neighbour gets wiped out, but if the Elerians are getting their asses kicked by the Silicoid, I'll surely join their campaign. It's like Alpha Centauri versus Call to Power, a couple of very different factions or 50+ nations all alike.
Another amazing aspect of MOO was how the game scaled. In the beginning you managed your single home system and maybe a few neighbouring systems. Building the colony improvements in the right order was very important as it gave you a boost over the other nations early on in the game. As the game progressed you could give over colonies for the computer to manage and concentrate on drawing up the big war campaign strategies, managing fleets and the border colonies while the core of the empire churned out science and new ships. And as your fleet of 50+ Doom Stars (2 stellar converters each, and time-warp faciliator) orbit the last alien planet, you can't help but smile;)
Master of Orion (2) is one of my all time favourite games, and the undisputed king of X4 games. I still occasionally play MOO2, but the gameplay has unfournately become so routine that a campaign on the impossible skill level only takes an evening:(
I really hope they can manage to catch the original spirit of the games. The web site talks about random generated "plot lines". Imperium Galactica II, another X4 game, tried it and it didn't really work (plus the game was just lame, enless micromanagment and no ship customizing! Plus who's the genius to come up with "interesting" techs like Laser 1 and Laser 2? MOO is all about the cool ships/technologies, I want my stellar converters and spatial compressors and xentronium armor:), let's hope the MOO team can do better. While they're at it they should try to find some middle ground between micro-managment and letting the computer manage everything.
The DNS servers where not running Linux before the crash. Why they are running it now is because Microsoft outsourced the DNS handling to Akamai (you know, the distributed content serving network) to prevent this mistake from happening again. Akamai is one of VA Linux's biggest customers and run virtually all of their servers on Linux.
I read linuxtoday.com that the DMA is now disabled by default with VIA chipsets because it's not working properly. I have an Abit KT7 (via kt133 chipset) and it seems to be working ok, except I get a LOT of "VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,0)" and " dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" messages.
The drive is still MUCH faster than with DMA disabled in the kernel. Anyone have any more details?
For once the mirrors seem to have had enough time to get the files. Kernel.org is already painfully slow, giving me a measly 20k/sec. If you're in Europe, try the Funet mirror. I got a decent 320k/sec from there, entire download took about a minute (and I'm not talking about the patch file).
Try out Firestarter (Disclaimer: I wrote the program, so I'm biased). Supports both ipchains and netfilter, several nics, NAT/Masq, ToS/ICMP filtering etc.
I, just like you, got really tired of editing scripts all day long, the end result is this GNOME program. First the program presents a wizard for quickly setting up a firewall, then you can monitor the firewall hits you get and close/open/stealth ports with just a few clicks. Easy of use was the goal with this program.
I think Red Hat should put out a new 7.01 point release with all the security fixes included. If you're doing a fresh install today you actually have to download over 100mb of patches right after you've finished installing! While 100mb isn't anything these days it does take a little while and many newbies probably don't know about up2date etc.
It would be much easier if they provided updated ISO images (yeah I know I could make them myself, and someone else probably already has). Sine Red Hat 7.1 is still a good way of I think 7.01 would be a good idea.
The pulishers and authors are angry at Amazon selling used books? Well boohoo, last time I checked selling used things was still legal.
These are the same people who were dead against Amazon letting users post book reviews. I know I sure wouldn't buy an expensive book in this day and time anymore without first reading a couple of reviews, if the book doesn't have a review, I'll just look at the next one instead. There's such and incredible amount of for example programming books, so why waste time and money on the bad ones?
Slashdot Mirror
While the Kylix IDE environment itself is driven with the Wine libs the applications it produces are compiled natively for Linux, currently using Qt as the toolkit. Try out the open edition for yourself and see.
You're forgetting that there are a lot of people that for one reason or another do not want to code in C++. Exactly because GTK+ was written in plain C there now exist a multitude of language bindings, far more than Qt offers at last count (PHP-GTK anyone :) I'm, actually writing a small GUI for log parsing and I like it!). The bindings haven't been perfect in the past, but they are becoming pretty mature now and a lot of applications are being written against the GTK-- C++ bindings for example. I also expect the GTK+ libraries to adapt far better to languages not even on the horizon yet, while I expect most Qt developers to stick with C++.
In the end, score one for choice, because at the end of the day we've got two excellent toolkits to choose from. I'm looking forward to learning and programing more with Qt.
Read Miguel's clarification of what he meant by GNOME taking advantage of Mono.
.net. It just might deliver what CORBA only promised, language independent component reuse. I know I wouldn't mind mixing for example Kylix generated GUI frontends with Java/C# running the logic in the background, transparently (and natively!). I surely hope that by the time we reach GNOME 4 (and we're talking 2-4 years from now here) we're not still writing GUI applications in C, as is the state with most GNOME apps now.
.net, it's not controlled by Microsoft, it's a reimplementation of the .net class libraries while also bringing in a C# compiler as a bonus (Believe me, there are plenty of worse languages to code in). The Mono libraries are Open Source (Same license as Xfree86, and I don't hear anyone bitching about the license of that particular piece of software) and will probably help bring a lot of new neat Open Source applications, giving especially GUI programs a boost.
Mono has a lot of technical merit, don't shoot it down only because it's based on
Remeber that Mono isn't
A few suggestions. First of all, why rm -rf the mozilla directory directly? Do it after the wget stage and you can safely cancel the download (or it might just fail for some reason, leaving you with no mozilla). Second, after rm -rf mozilla there will be no mozilla/plugins directory, so the second last line is not needed.
;)
Good idea about linking the plugins directory, I've got to integrate that into my own script
The countries using the euro are:
Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain.
Also, some small states like San Marino, Monaco, the Vatican etc. will be using the euro, and Cuba (the government at least). Major chains in the UK will also accept the euro.
Telsa Gwynne works on the GNOME Documentation Project. Besides, the board is not about coding, we need a well-balanced board of people with many different skills.
Creatives replacement for the aging Soundblaster Live series, the Audigy series, have Firewire connectors. Dunno if the card is any good, but it's certainly going to help bringing Firewire support to the PC crowd.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/xboxfiles.php3
Hilight:
A friend of mine (which we will call "Dave" to keep his real name anonymous) works there and was assigned to the XBOX project a month ago. (shocking!) Now you may imagine it must been a really busy month building and testing XBOXes and stuff but.. can you handle the truth? can you?!
According to Dave he has spent the last month doing.. (dramatic pause!) absolutely nothing. As a matter of fact he has been lingering around watching videos on the net and trying to appear to be busy. Why? because they didnt have anything to build! the xbox design finally went into production last SUNDAY! (september 23 2001) (truly shocking!!)
Now what happens if you start production on Sunday on a Mexican factory ? (dramatic pause allowing you to answer) NOBODY is there to do it! only those who are unlucky enough to be there doing extra time, (like poor old Dave was) But they were ORDERED to do it anyway. No QA guys, no big bosses nothing, just a bunch of employees, trying to build a machine for the first time ever! (shocking, er, shocking!)
As you may have guessed things didnt went very smooth, as a matter of fact they didnt go very smooth at all! lots of machines were so defective they didnt pass the normal standards and went back to the line again, Dave and his friend expent hours after hours trying to build the damn boxes but they still were defective, to make a large awful history short they only were able to build 10 Xboxes that day! 10! and those XBOXES who did make it only passed standard tests! no other testing was applied!
Spotted this on the GNOME Weekly Summary:
:)
Hello World in C# using the GTK toolkit
The syntax does look pretty clean.
It's not quite up to Java GNOME functionality yet, which is now compilable to native binaries, with gcc3 (For those of us who couldn't care less about platform independence but really like Java as a modern language). More choice is always good however.
Open Office 6 was not released on wednesday. They released a build called Open Office 6 beta 638c. It's more like a milestone release on the way to a proper version 6. Sort of like what mozilla does. The final version isn't scheduled for some time yet, see the roadmap.
Things like this, not really bugs, are often also submitted into Bugzilla because it creates a place where you can hold a public discussion about them.
I like it. It doesn't crash. It renders pages quickly and correctly. In Windows I can use the "-turbo" command line switch to get IE like startup speed (I hope this makes it to the Linux builds too). But the biggest improvement over 0.9.2 is in my opinion that a window that is done loading doesn't steal my focus any longer! Previously you couldn't really have a lot of browser windows open because they constantly kept stealing the focus from each other.
I also like that you can open a link in a new window with the middle button. It's always worked like that on Linux, but it now also works in Windows. It's definitely ready for daily use IMHO.
Anyone have suggestions for references an easy-to-install intrusion detection system? Maybe with a GUI?
Shameless plug: Check out my Firestarter GNOME firewall/monitoring software. The first step in breaking in is always surveying the ports of the machine, Firestarter lights up like a christmas tree when someone sweeps over your ports. Integration with the GNOME panel makes the program as easy to ignore as an ICQ client in normal operation, but still allows the program to alert you when necessary. Sort of like ZoneAlarm or BlackIce for That Other OS.
It works on both Linux 2.4 and 2.2 systems. I would say that the scripts the wizard generates for 2.4 are better than the 2.2 ones.
isn't Linux itself under the generic GPL?
No. The Linux kernel is specifically licensed under version 2 of the GPL. See here for more info.
What I really liked about the MOO games was that the races all played differently and had real character. You had the spying Darloks and the intelligent Mentars etc. Too many games think that more == better. Space Empires IV, Stars! etc. all throw a gazillion similiar races and planets into a lifeless galaxy. You just don't care if your generic neighbour gets wiped out, but if the Elerians are getting their asses kicked by the Silicoid, I'll surely join their campaign. It's like Alpha Centauri versus Call to Power, a couple of very different factions or 50+ nations all alike.
;)
Another amazing aspect of MOO was how the game scaled. In the beginning you managed your single home system and maybe a few neighbouring systems. Building the colony improvements in the right order was very important as it gave you a boost over the other nations early on in the game. As the game progressed you could give over colonies for the computer to manage and concentrate on drawing up the big war campaign strategies, managing fleets and the border colonies while the core of the empire churned out science and new ships. And as your fleet of 50+ Doom Stars (2 stellar converters each, and time-warp faciliator) orbit the last alien planet, you can't help but smile
Master of Orion (2) is one of my all time favourite games, and the undisputed king of X4 games. I still occasionally play MOO2, but the gameplay has unfournately become so routine that a campaign on the impossible skill level only takes an evening :(
:), let's hope the MOO team can do better. While they're at it they should try to find some middle ground between micro-managment and letting the computer manage everything.
I really hope they can manage to catch the original spirit of the games. The web site talks about random generated "plot lines". Imperium Galactica II, another X4 game, tried it and it didn't really work (plus the game was just lame, enless micromanagment and no ship customizing! Plus who's the genius to come up with "interesting" techs like Laser 1 and Laser 2? MOO is all about the cool ships/technologies, I want my stellar converters and spatial compressors and xentronium armor
The DNS servers where not running Linux before the crash. Why they are running it now is because Microsoft outsourced the DNS handling to Akamai (you know, the distributed content serving network) to prevent this mistake from happening again. Akamai is one of VA Linux's biggest customers and run virtually all of their servers on Linux.
I read linuxtoday.com that the DMA is now disabled by default with VIA chipsets because it's not working properly. I have an Abit KT7 (via kt133 chipset) and it seems to be working ok, except I get a LOT of "VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,0)" and " dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" messages.
The drive is still MUCH faster than with DMA disabled in the kernel. Anyone have any more details?
Make sure your modutils is up to date. I'm using 2.3.21 and it's working just fine.
For once the mirrors seem to have had enough time to get the files. Kernel.org is already painfully slow, giving me a measly 20k/sec. If you're in Europe, try the Funet mirror. I got a decent 320k/sec from there, entire download took about a minute (and I'm not talking about the patch file).
Try out Firestarter (Disclaimer: I wrote the program, so I'm biased). Supports both ipchains and netfilter, several nics, NAT/Masq, ToS/ICMP filtering etc.
I, just like you, got really tired of editing scripts all day long, the end result is this GNOME program. First the program presents a wizard for quickly setting up a firewall, then you can monitor the firewall hits you get and close/open/stealth ports with just a few clicks. Easy of use was the goal with this program.
I think Red Hat should put out a new 7.01 point release with all the security fixes included. If you're doing a fresh install today you actually have to download over 100mb of patches right after you've finished installing! While 100mb isn't anything these days it does take a little while and many newbies probably don't know about up2date etc.
It would be much easier if they provided updated ISO images (yeah I know I could make them myself, and someone else probably already has). Sine Red Hat 7.1 is still a good way of I think 7.01 would be a good idea.
The pulishers and authors are angry at Amazon selling used books? Well boohoo, last time I checked selling used things was still legal.
These are the same people who were dead against Amazon letting users post book reviews. I know I sure wouldn't buy an expensive book in this day and time anymore without first reading a couple of reviews, if the book doesn't have a review, I'll just look at the next one instead. There's such and incredible amount of for example programming books, so why waste time and money on the bad ones?
Check out the Gimp Splash Screen History, funny stuff. Wonder what the splash for 1.2 looks like....
P4 owners only need to download 2.2.18 which should be out any day now
... and mere moments after posting, Linux
2.2.18 was released :)