Most juries aren't really your peers. That's just how it reads on the tin to get you to quit your bitching.
Find me a juror in any of these high profile "...with a computer" cases that have come up lately that understands even something so trivial as the difference between TCP and UDP. Fuck, that even has one person on it who has/can demonstrate that.
Juries aren't picked based upon being someone's peer, they're a compromise between the two legal bodies on who is both, most gullible and not inclined to already have their mind's made up. That's all.
Sensitive about impoverishing a woman, sure. I believe it.
I bet all they'll ask of her is a modest $200,000 and that she appear on television, making a public statement demeaning herself on behalf of the record companies. Fuckers should burn.
Assuming you don't like it that way. The only significant sources of sugar I get is bread and beer, as I drink my coffee and tea straight. I also have a fairly decent diet. If I didn't enjoy the beer so much, I'd probably be a good 20-30 lbs lighter from that alone.
I always looked at slashdot kink-trolls like I was watching a train-wreck in slow motion. On one hand, the dehumanizing sight of gore and sinew splayed about should be stomach turning, especially as others gather around afterwards, having not seen the initial spectacle (this makes it something personal and special between you and the ones who got painfully dismembered by the gruesome event), but on the other hand, I _just can't_ look away...
Interesting off-topic. One of my coworkers today genuinely thought I didn't realize that ctrl+z was undo in Windows products.
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
(X) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
(X) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
(X) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
(X) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
( ) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
( ) Asshats
( ) Jurisdictional problems
(X) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
( ) Extreme profitability of spam
( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
(X) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
(X) Sending email should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government reading my email
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
(X) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!
If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of dude's girlfriends, I will find something in them which will get him to hang himself.
I make a cool 65k working in STL without a degree. I make more than my friends, some of whom have Masters degrees in CS. Article is tripe written by a Higher Education shill.
Slashdot Mirror
Then lets me a new internet of our own. With backjack, and hookers!
No, I AM the only free man on this train. The rest of YOU are cattle!
Most juries aren't really your peers. That's just how it reads on the tin to get you to quit your bitching.
Find me a juror in any of these high profile "...with a computer" cases that have come up lately that understands even something so trivial as the difference between TCP and UDP. Fuck, that even has one person on it who has/can demonstrate that.
Juries aren't picked based upon being someone's peer, they're a compromise between the two legal bodies on who is both, most gullible and not inclined to already have their mind's made up. That's all.
Sensitive about impoverishing a woman, sure. I believe it.
I bet all they'll ask of her is a modest $200,000 and that she appear on television, making a public statement demeaning herself on behalf of the record companies. Fuckers should burn.
Assuming you don't like it that way. The only significant sources of sugar I get is bread and beer, as I drink my coffee and tea straight. I also have a fairly decent diet. If I didn't enjoy the beer so much, I'd probably be a good 20-30 lbs lighter from that alone.
This thread will be good. I expect well-reasoned and rational comments from all sides, naturally.
*Munches popcorn and waits*
To be fair, stuff like this is the "Change I could have believed in."
The hope part is off by a bit though.
I always looked at slashdot kink-trolls like I was watching a train-wreck in slow motion. On one hand, the dehumanizing sight of gore and sinew splayed about should be stomach turning, especially as others gather around afterwards, having not seen the initial spectacle (this makes it something personal and special between you and the ones who got painfully dismembered by the gruesome event), but on the other hand, I _just can't_ look away...
Interesting off-topic. One of my coworkers today genuinely thought I didn't realize that ctrl+z was undo in Windows products.
Damnit. Undoing moderation.
Actually, that's the pipe dream. Yes.
How you get to that point, I'm not entirely sure. I'm hoping someone smarter than me actually figures it out.
So then the moment you DON'T want it to pick you out, you just change clothes. Why yes, that IS my protest suit, thank you very much.
Myopic fool! Not everyone has, or even wants, a telephone. So...what...fuck them?
Your post advocates a
( ) technical (X) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
(X) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
(X) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
(X) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
(X) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
( ) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
( ) Asshats
( ) Jurisdictional problems
(X) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
( ) Extreme profitability of spam
( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
(X) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
(X) Sending email should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government reading my email
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
(X) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
I think he ran out of bandwidth.
If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of dude's girlfriends, I will find something in them which will get him to hang himself.
Not forever. Just through next quarter's results. Some fucking dweeb down in the R&D closet in the cellar will figure it out by then, no doubt.
amber here.
I make a cool 65k working in STL without a degree. I make more than my friends, some of whom have Masters degrees in CS. Article is tripe written by a Higher Education shill.
What does it say?
"I enjoy 21st century serfdom."
Oh look, it's news reinforcing the false premise of the two party system.
I'm saddened this was modded insightful.
I C your sense of humor is pretty sharp.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
Oh don't mind him. He's just the last Blackberry fanboy.
Ask those guys who make the TSA body scanners.