Slashdot Mirror


Ask Slashdot: Keyboard Layout To Reduce Right Pinky/Ring Finger Usage?

Tooke writes "I've developed focal hand dystonia from playing clarinet. It affects my right pinky (and my ring finger, but to a lesser extent). My pinky isn't totally unusable when typing; however, it isn't nearly as agile as it used to be. When I must press a key with it, I tend to keep the whole finger rigid and move my entire hand instead. I also use my ring finger to press the P and semicolon keys (on QWERTY) which is a bit awkward but better than using the pinky. Thus my question: are there any keyboard layouts that are optimized to reduce right pinky/ring finger usage? I switched to Programmer Dvorak a few years ago, but Dvorak seems to make me use my right hand significantly more than my left. I'm considering mirroring the letter keys so my left hand would be used more. I also came across the Workman layout which looks interesting. I might try using that after switching the numbers and symbols around to be more like Programmer Dvorak. Has anyone been in a similar situation? What else could I do to make typing more comfortable? I've got a long career ahead of me as a programmer (I'm currently a high school senior) and I'd like to take care of my hands as much as possible."

165 comments

  1. Left-Handed Dvorak by SaXisT4LiF · · Score: 4, Informative
    --
    Fight or flight its all the same
    Live to die another day

    --Ryan
    1. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Left and right-handed Dvorak is great when you lose all use of one hand, but it's not designed to favor one or the other when using two hands. The 'money' keys are toward the middle of the keyboard in both layouts, but thanks for the quick google search without actually reading the wiki page.

      If this guy switched to left-handed Dvorak, his right hand would wither and die. Unless, perhaps, he learns to play clarinet with only his right hand.

      I'll echo everyone else's suggestion to look into sensorimotor retraining, except without being a jerk about it. I always thought that was a bad term since the idea isn't to retrain what you're currently doing, but to counteract the effects with opposing exercises/movements. I don't think you'll figure out a way to play the clarinet differently to prevent the finger problems so best to try to counter the development of dystonia with opposing movements.

    2. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by houghi · · Score: 2

      Thanks for that. And it is perfect for typing XNXX.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    3. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1

      Unless, perhaps, he learns to play clarinet with only his right hand.

      Actually special instruments adapted for the disabled to play one-handed aren't unheard of. Here's a one-handed flute made for a veteran of WWI who had an arm amputated; this one is left handed and there's a right handed version at that site as well. And here's a whole page of instruments adapted for the disabled in this manner. Mind you, these are all woodwinds, I'm not sure how you'd play a guitar with only one arm.

    4. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by mrbester · · Score: 1

      (Rick Allen) The drummer from Def Leopard's only got one arm. Bloodhound Gang notwithstanding, if you didn't know you probably couldn't tell.

      --
      "Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
    5. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I'll tell you what this guy needs to do: he needs to put his pinky finger (and maybe the ring finger too, if it's also causing problems) in a splint, the kind you get when you break your finger. Then retrain himself to type while having these fingers unusable. I've had to do it before when I sprained a finger; it wasn't hard at all to adapt to typing without the one finger.

      In addition to that, he needs to switch to Dvorak, and maybe make his own altered version of Dvorak (the Wiki article notes that Piers Anthony does this himself). I'd recommend moving the S, L, and N and maybe R keys to the left side, to replace Q, J, K, and B (or maybe P or Y). Or, since the standard Dvorak keyboard does indeed favor right-handedness as has been pointed out here, he could remap all the keys so that left and right are swapped entirely. This would probably look like this:
      (number row stays the same)
      Tab L R C G F Y P . , ' / = \
      Caps S N T H D I U E O A - Enter
      Shift Z V W M B X K J Q ; Shift

      This way, he'd mainly only use the right hand for vowels and punctuation, plus the rare letters like Q and J, and the left hand would be used for all the most-used consonants.

    6. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by steelfood · · Score: 2

      There are coder layouts, and typist layouts. Most layouts are for typists. Even DVORAK for one hand is a typist layout. The most used symbols when writing code? Semicolon, period, equals, parenthesis. In some languages, the dollar sign is prevalent too.

      The Workman layout is interesting, but the analysis of each key's reach difficulty is a bit off of what I'm used to. And it's not a programmer's layout either.

      If I had very specific special needs, I'd go with creating a keyboard layout of my own. Start with a key difficulty analysis like the one done for the Workman layout, and change the values to something suitable for my particular situation. Then assign keys from there. Just remember that in addition to symbols, writing code will make use of certain letter characters more than when typing a document.

      --
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
    7. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I think, unless you either use a piano-like keyboard, or some rather advanced technology (like a chording keyboard connected to a computer with special music software), it'd be pretty much impossible to make a one-handed instrument that plays chords. Woodwinds are all single-note instruments; you can only play one note or tone at a time. Guitars are multi-note instruments, like pianos, and let you play many notes at once. So it makes perfect sense that you could adapt a monotone instrument to be played with one hand, likely by reducing the instrument's range, since you now have half as many fingers available to press valves or close holes, though you might be able to make better use of the thumb than is normally done with these instruments--the thumb is usually used to hold the instrument in place, which could be done with a mechanical arm or fixture instead. With a piano, each key is actuated by a finger, so you're limited by how wide your hand can span if you only have one hand. With a stringed instrument, it's probably impossible; you need one hand to fret notes, and another to pluck the correct strings, unless maybe you limit yourself to playing 6-string chords and rig up a foot pedal which activates a mechanical arm which strums the strings. But you can forget about precision picking of particular strings if you do this, but I guess you could play most country songs just fine that way.

    8. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by s.petry · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't take this the wrong way, I admire his will to retrain himself and continue drumming.. but....

      If you are very tone deaf you may be fooled, but any musician can tell the difference between acoustic and electronic percussion. Any drummer I consider "good" uses all 4 appendages. Yes, there are many drummers that make a living using 3 but I don't consider them "good". Rick Allen plays better than them while physically missing a limb.

      Compliment him on his will to continue doing something he enjoyed and made a profession. Compliment him on having a big pair and coming on stage after working his ass off to relearn the drums. But don't claim that people can't tell he's only got 1 arm. Many can, and still think he's a great drummer.

      --

      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    9. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by gTsiros · · Score: 1

      all that matters is that he is a good drummer, even ignoring his disability.

      There is something that distinguishes musicians from one another, it can be phrasing, timing, whatever. This time is number of arms.

      --
      Looking for people to chat about multicopters, coding, music. skype: gtsiros
    10. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I type standard dvorak, and learned left-handed dvorak out of interest a few years ago. (I'm right-handed, FWIW.) I average 90 wpm with both hands, but only 30 wpm with one hand alone. To me, that is a painfully low speed.

      The OP and could possibly do a "two-handed" one-hand dvorak where the right hand could be used for all sorts of special characters or backspace/shift key presses and it would work out pretty well, even for programming.

    11. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by dexotaku · · Score: 2

      As someone with similar issues [but with the opposite hand; my left is nerve-damaged and I can't use the fingers independently] I have to throw in here that the Dvorak-RH layout - which I've been using since 1993 - is a doGsend.

      I still use QWERTY on other peoples' computers, or when forced to by software that ignores the user layout, and I can still type reasonably fast [~45wpm] with only one hand, and I have to say that the Dvorak layout doesn't really help in terms of speed - but it helps incredibly in relieving the strain that typing on QWERTY [and stretching your fingers all about] causes in abundance.

      If you're favouring one hand over the other - even if the one is still somewhat useful - it may make sense to switch layouts just to relieve the strain of stretching across widely-spread keys. You can still assist with the less useful hand.

      The best thing about the Dvorak one-handed layouts is their wide support: every OS I've used since the early 90s supported the layouts, more recently with relatively simple user settings.

      Point of advice though: *don't buy a dedicated Dvorak keyboard* since they're usually ridiculously expensive. reflecting the fact that the only issue I've ever run into is converting an average QWERTY keyboard to the layout [which is a requisite for learning, for most people] is that a lot of current keyboard manufacturers [all of the big names, from my testing] purposefully makes their keyboards such that keys can't be simply re-arranged [assholes!]. Last time I went looking for a replacement keyboard I went through 4 [from logitech, saitek, maybe belkin, and lastly a no-name Chinese wireless] before I found one that could be re-arranged. Otherwise you may have to resort to using key-top labels which can be found relatively inexpensively.

    12. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Mal-2 · · Score: 2

      Guitars have been adapted to play by fretting alone. Usually this would be for the purpose of using both hands independently, but it also serves to make them playable with just one hand.

      The three that jump immediately to mind are:
      Chapman Stick
      Warr Guitar
      Megatar

      --
      How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
    13. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      Thing is, he was playing electronic percussion when he had two arms. So for him at least, it wasn't a big change in sound to move the triggers from his left hand to his left foot.

      --
      How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
    14. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      Keytop labels are a pretty simple do-it-yourself affair if so inclined, Print to Avery labels, then laminate them in clear packing tape. You'll have to cut them out with scissors, but they'll last for years. I've had my Aspire One remapped this way for four years now.

      --
      How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
    15. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What has 9 arms and sucks?

      Def Leopard!

    16. Re:Left-Handed Dvorak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of having to rearrange the actual keys, they make some pretty high-quality keyboard stickers for the various layouts. I got the set I learned on (long ago discarded on a crappy rubber-membrane board) from ebay for about $5. They have clear and opaque versions of just about any layout.

  2. Working around a treatable condition... by tlambert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Working around a treatable condition is pretty silly. How about just treating the dystonia? Standard treatment is sensorimotor retraining.

    1. Re:Working around a treatable condition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was my thought as well. When you do this sort of work around you just end up making things worse in the long run as the relevant parts of the body and brain adapt around it. Sure, it takes time and the help of a professional, but unless you can't find any professionals that can treat this, avoidance is just going to make it worse.

    2. Re:Working around a treatable condition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  3. Focal Dystonia by northTbone · · Score: 2

    How exactly is your Dystonia affecting your typing? Focal Task Specific Dystonia, by definition, rarely affects tasks other than those where the the symptoms originate. What treatments have you been seeking to deal with your dystonic symptoms? There are several potential treatments. It seems more productive to deal with your symptoms, rather than try to work around them. I'm a member of the Performing Arts Medicine Association, and can recommend several authors/doctors if you are interested. There are also several treatments you could try without medical supervision/assistance.

    1. Re:Focal Dystonia by PRMan · · Score: 1

      Makes me glad I quit playing the clarinet.

      --
      Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
    2. Re:Focal Dystonia by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Playing the clarinet, is that what the kids are calling it these days?

      "Oh Bernadette, please play my clarinet."

    3. Re:Focal Dystonia by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I'm a member of the Performing Arts Medicine Association

      Wow, I feel happy to know that such a thing even exists!

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    4. Re:Focal Dystonia by northTbone · · Score: 2

      http://artsmed.org/ also http://www.sciandmed.com/mppa/ its a Pubmed referenced, peer reviewed journal. Focal Dystonia is a pretty specific disorder, and is more common among musicians than most other occupational groups. Finger splints are an effective mode of sensorimotor retraining. I can see how this could be applied to both your typing and clarinet symptoms.

    5. Re:Focal Dystonia by jampola · · Score: 1

      He could have saved himself a pinky and used the whole clarinet instead akin American Pie :)

    6. Re:Focal Dystonia by Tooke · · Score: 1

      I started noticing issues with my typing a month or so after I stopped playing clarinet (September). I can still sort of use the pinky, but it locks up and gets tired quickly. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it. I went to a neurologist at the University of Washington Medical Center. She suggested two treatments: pills or botox injection. The botox seemed to be the better choice, so we tried that. They gave me a small injection at the end of January, but there was no effect. I'm scheduled to get a larger dose in May. However, the doctor isn't optimistic that the botox will work in just the right way to let me play clarinet again. We'll see, but it doesn't look good. I would love to hear any treatments or other advice you have. You mentioned finger splints in another post; would you recommend that I try that? Do you know if it's common (or at least not unheard of) for musicians to be able to overcome dystonia? I'm repeating myself I guess, but the neurologist wasn't too optimistic...

      --
      Anybody want a peanut?
  4. so... just don't use them? by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I almost never use my ring or pinky while typing, on either side.

    Just type so that it feels natural to you. Nothing forces you to use any specific fingers.

    Because I learned to type in such a "natural" form, instead of learning home rows and specific zones for each finger, I find I can easily adapt to different typing positions and injuries. Eg, if my index finger on either hand had a cut on it, it only takes a few minutes for me to adjust and type at a near full speed without that finger.

    While I'm not the -fastest- typer around, I still type pretty damn fast and with little fatigue.

    --
    For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    1. Re:so... just don't use them? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      (watching myself, I actually noticed that if I stop using my index finger, the "assignments" move over a finger. Meaning my middle finger takes over, and the ring finger picks up the slack).

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    2. Re:so... just don't use them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should write a book.. Typing for Libertarians

    3. Re:so... just don't use them? by corychristison · · Score: 2

      I, too, seem to share the same typing style as you.

      I'm in my mid twenties and have been coding since grade 5 (roughly age 10). Starting with HTML, Css and JavaScript/ActionScript.

      I remember learning home row in grade 4 and completely abandoning it when I realized it was so inefficient for the stuff I enjoyed to do. On an unrelated note I was banned from school computters in grade 6 thru 8 (highscool starts in gr 9 here) for "hacking".

    4. Re:so... just don't use them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does no one ever want to go back to the alphabetical layout? Or number pad/phone-text typing? It's maddening being stuck with all these "layouts" instead of being able to program your own keys to your own specific character choices.

    5. Re:so... just don't use them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How to die in a fire" - by A. Coward

    6. Re:so... just don't use them? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      On an unrelated note I was banned from school computters in grade 6 thru 8 (highscool starts in gr 9 here) for "hacking".

      Sounds like a fun story. Care to share the details?

      I never had any problems like that - but I'm sure a good part of that was, being a rural school, the 4 staff who knew anything about computers thought well of me.

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    7. Re:so... just don't use them? by corychristison · · Score: 2

      Not a particularily fun story. I'm a little fuzzy on the exact details(this was almost 15 years ago), but I am certain it was because the school relied on Active Directory (or something, I really dont know... whatever it was back then on Win98) and I discovered you could unplug the ethernet port, type in any random username and password and it would fail to login, but then still allow you to gain a desktop. Plug the ethernet port back in and voila, you had access to the internet.

      I also recall the good ol' local Administrator account in highschool had a blank password (this was XP). So you could essentially do the same thing, without needing to unplug the Ethernet port, by simply choosing Local machine in the Domain setting at the login prompt.

    8. Re:so... just don't use them? by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      If you use the right operating system, you can remap all keys to anything you like. I use Emacs.

    9. Re:so... just don't use them? by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      >I almost never use my ring or pinky while typing, on either side.

      Ditto. "Proper" typing technique causes extension of fingers that aren't designed for it. I type only with my first two fingers on each hand, and my right thumb. I typed around 80WPM without error in my IRC and MUD days.

      I've never understood why someone would type with their ring or pinky fingers. The few times I had teachers try to get me to type "correctly" it hurt immensely.

    10. Re:so... just don't use them? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Exactly. If he wants to be a programmer, then he should just learn to type with three fingers, like everybody else.

      --
      Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
    11. Re:so... just don't use them? by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      You just made be snort my coffee, but I doubt many others got the joke.

      --
      Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
    12. Re:so... just don't use them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the "correct" way of typing feels really wrong.
      Only use my pinky for the shift and enter keys when typing regularly.
      Can easily type with my hands switched even, which looks quite funny.
      Often type with just one hand when multitasking.

    13. Re:so... just don't use them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use just three fingers too (well, six plus thumbs) because I was typing before I learned how to type. But I've always been hesitant to use a different keyboard layout because of my experience being left-handed. Scissors are hard to use but left-handed scissors don't work either because most of the time there are only right-handed scissors lying around and I can't switch back and forth. I suspect the same would be true for keyboards, when I'm typing, I'm not thinking about where the letters are mapped on a keyboard. And it would look kind of dorky to be hauling my own keyboard around with me.

    14. Re:so... just don't use them? by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

      I've never understood why someone would type with their ring or pinky fingers. The few times I had teachers try to get me to type "correctly" it hurt immensely.

      Maybe because/some of us have normal range of motion that allows us to use all our fingers? Just because you don't know how to move your body properly doesn't mean others are the same.

      --
      Don't complain about syntax, grammar, or spelling. There is no.hell like input on android.
    15. Re:so... just don't use them? by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      >Maybe because/some of us have normal range of motion that allows us to use all our fingers? Just because you don't know how to move your body properly doesn't mean others are the same.

      Did you miss the part where I hit 80WPM?

      If you consider that "not moving your body properly", you have insanely high standards for typing speed.

      And I've never had a lick of carpal tunnel with my typing method, whereas "proper" typists get it all the time. Sample size of one, I know, but from what my wrists felt like after "properly" typing on the home row, I can see probably cause and effect.

    16. Re:so... just don't use them? by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

      80 WPM is just hitting the lower bar when it comes to efficiency, it means nothing. They don't know how to move properly either. Anytime you feel pain doing something where the majority of people don't, you're doing it incorrectly. A lot of people now a days don't have the necessary flexibility in their shoulders to align their wrists properly. The problem with the people who get RSI is that, unlike you, they aren't smart enough to find another method that doesn't cause pain, they keep doing it because they believe they're doing it 'the correct way'. The real intelligent ones don't change the method, they change the manner in which they use their body so that no pain results. This type of posture change though is a pretty big one in terms of personality change, so most people stay away from changing it (shoulders have a lot to do with paranoia and defence).

      --
      Don't complain about syntax, grammar, or spelling. There is no.hell like input on android.
  5. Playing Clarinet? by Art+Challenor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who knew that learning to reed in school could be harmful.

    1. Re:Playing Clarinet? by dyingtolive · · Score: 2

      I C your sense of humor is pretty sharp.

      --
      Support the EFF and Creative Commons. The war is coming, and they're supporting you...
    2. Re:Playing Clarinet? by SeaFox · · Score: 2

      I'd like to note that joke was a little flat, to me anyway.

    3. Re:Playing Clarinet? by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      I C your sense of humor is pretty sharp.

      Just try to make me play more than 2 sharps on a clarinet, you insensitive clod. There's a reason God created the A clarinet.

      --
      I am not a crackpot.
    4. Re:Playing Clarinet? by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      With some time such a joke will be well tempered.

      --
      Not a sentence!
  6. A tough call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a Dvorak user myself, I'd say a Dvorak is probably not the way to go, what with the 's' right under the finger you are trying to avoid using. I think, of the most common keyboard layouts, QWERTY is the one that will use your right pinky the least in normal everyday typing, but as a programmer you would be using the semicolon and quote marks a lot too, depending on the language. Maybe Colemak? ( http://colemak.com/ )

  7. Resting hands by jfisherwa · · Score: 1

    I learned the 'home row keys' much too late to be disciplined with them, and probably have slightly longer than average fingers, but I generally only use my left pinky for the Left-Shift key and my right pinky only for the Enter key.

    From left to right:

    Left-Shift, A, W, D, Space - Space, between J and K, between O/0/P, resting on [ but with my fingertip on +, Enter

  8. playing *cough* clarinet *cough* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah right we all believe you.. this is slashdot..
    we know about focal hand dystonia and you don't get it by playing the clarinet..
    so you better improve the quality of your pr0n or else your hand will fall off.

  9. Single-hand Maltron by alter-memo · · Score: 2

    You can try with a single-hand maltron keyboard. I have used the two-hand version and it is quite comfortable for me.

    http://www.maltron.com/keyboard-info/single-hand-keyboards.html

  10. What you call all of us... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that can use only the index finger on the right hand then?

    1. Re:What you call all of us... by Spiridios · · Score: 1

      that can use only the index finger on the right hand then?

      I've been a software developer for more than a few years now. Most developers I've worked with type with some semblance of a home-row and using all their fingers. I can also tell you I've worked with more than a few decent developers that index-finger type. Proper software development is more planning and figuring out what to type and less manual typing. So long as you can solve problems and your typing method, no matter how wacky, doesn't interfere, then it's a non-issue.

    2. Re:What you call all of us... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      it's a non-issue.

      A lot of 50+ developers here in Oz never leaned to touch type, like me they were not allowed to take typing classes at HS. Most schools classified typing and home economics as a girls only subjects in the 70's. Thing is I was too interested in getting my hobby programs to work in the 80's that by time I went to uni at age 30 I had to slow down to learn touch typing, consequently I never did. I only really notice my sloth when sitting next to my wife who can fly along at 100wpm, I can peck out ~35wpm at best. However, since typing speed has proved to be totally irrelevant in my 20+yr career as a software developer. Obviously it's a useful skill but I have no need or desire for the long and boring grind required to reprogram my finger muscles. For me it's just not worth the effort.

      --
      And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
    3. Re:What you call all of us... by ACE209 · · Score: 1

      That actually depends on how exactly you use that finger.

      If your hand is soaring over the keyboard while searching for the next key it's called "eagle typing"

      If it just takes some time to find the next key it's called "columbus typing", since every key seems to be a new discovery.

      --
      "we are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."
    4. Re:What you call all of us... by Z34107 · · Score: 2

      Don't sell yourself short! You already know where all the keys are, so learning to touch type won't take you long at all. Just rest your fingers on home row (index fingers on the "F" and "J" keys with the notches, thumbs on the spacebar.) Strike each key with the nearest finger, and return the hand to home row afterwards. Ta da! You're a typist. I'd be surprised if it took you longer than an afternoon to get back to your old speed, and you'll keep getting faster as you continue to type.

      And don't say it's "irrelevant"--that's like some naughts gentleman wondering why anyone would pay for broadband when his AOL always worked just fine. Just change where you rest your hands, and you'll get a free broadband upgrade.

      --
      DATABASE WOW WOW
    5. Re:What you call all of us... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      The most helpful thing is not to look at the keyboard at all, since you end up moving your hands out of the way and losing the flow.

      Print out a copy of the keyboard layout and fold it into a tent shape; put below your monitor. (I learned Dvorak and touchtyping this way, it didn't take very long to get A-Z. It took longer to get 0-9 and the symbols, but they're not so important anyway. Regardless of all the comments about 'programmer' layouts, I type far more normal English than code -- emails, Slashdot, documentation, comments, test cases -- and thought it was worth keeping compatibility with most computers by using standard Dvorak.)

    6. Re:What you call all of us... by Spiridios · · Score: 1

      The most helpful thing is not to look at the keyboard at all, since you end up moving your hands out of the way and losing the flow.

      Agreed. I forced myself to learn touch-typing in school when the instructor kept making us copy pages of code from the text book. I got tired of looking at the page, then at the keyboard to see what to press, then at the screen to check up on my progress.

      ...and thought it was worth keeping compatibility with most computers by using standard Dvorak.

      I thought most standard computers used some variation of QWERTY.

    7. Re:What you call all of us... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      ...and thought it was worth keeping compatibility with most computers by using standard Dvorak.

      I thought most standard computers used some variation of QWERTY.

      They do, but most have an option to use Dvorak (just like they have the option to use French AZERTY, or German QWERTZ) without installing anything extra.

  11. take piano lessons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we have 400 years of learning how to make the fingers and wrists strong and reliable; for instance:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virtuoso_Pianist_in_60_Exercises

  12. only thing I use right pinky for.. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    is öäå, right shift and enter(').
    maybe switch to a finnish/swedish layout and move ' somewhere?-)

    point being, you can write in english perfectly with the finnish layout but öäå are right hand pinky characters you'd never use anyhow.
    when you're doing a custom layout, think about more than just switching the keys around the kb - you should also reduce the amount of the characters by combining them behind modifiers. on finnish kb there's no > as a separate key for example like on english qwerty.

    --
    world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
  13. Just move your hands by ljw1004 · · Score: 2

    Can't you just move your hands all around the keyboard?

    I often do that, and type at about 90 words per minute. I'll type both code and prose without using the little finger on my right hand at all, and the ring finger only rarely. It feels much better to have my whole hands flying all over the keyboard. Fixed wrist position always seemed terrible to me from an RSI perspective.

    1. Re:Just move your hands by headcase88-2 · · Score: 1

      Haven't considered it before, but I reached this conclusion as well, as learning a new pattern would be hard for me personally. Maybe a foot pedal mapped to the shift key, etc would help?

    2. Re:Just move your hands by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      I'll take a stab at it and mention... it sounds like you did not learn traditional typing (home row and all that). I do the same thing you do, and I find I can adapt quickly to impairment of any of my fingers without any thought. Those that I know who learned "proper" typing seem to have a harder time with that.

      I should mention that typing doesn't really bother my hands at all, though I do get some forearm fatigue after an extended period of typing. What really bothers my hand(s) are mice. I switch hands, but I still end up with fatigue/aches when using the damn things.

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    3. Re:Just move your hands by Fishchip · · Score: 1

      That's still learning a new pattern, not to mention a little silly. I'm watching myself type this post and notice not only are my pinkies never hitting keys, but they're actually pointing up and out, sorta like the stereotypical tea-drinking dangling pinky. But then, I am also one of those people who never bothered with the home row and proper finger positioning and somehow manage to blaze along at many wpm.

    4. Re:Just move your hands by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Replace your rodent with a trackball. Much less hand stress with that.

      --
      Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
    5. Re:Just move your hands by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      That's what I've been doing, currently.

      At home, I have an old razr diamondback for my right hand. At work, I have a kensington expert mouse on my left.

      Seems to do a decent job of it, but I've been finding the low profile razr bothering me lately. I want to rotate my hand 90-degrees, like shaking hands. Which sucks, because I had gotten the razr because it seemed to be (at the time) the only mouse with a shape that didn't cramp up my hand.

      --
      For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
    6. Re:Just move your hands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try the Evoluent Vertical Mouse. I have two, absolutely worth the $80.

  14. Map right alt to enter by islisis · · Score: 2

    Simplest solution I can think of is to map right alt to enter (which I would do even without injury anyway), and then some comfortable substitution for p, ; and /. Some candidate keys would be capslock and tilde, or probably better some chording combinations like left alt o, l and .

    The best solution might involve buying a Kinesis Contoured, which should save stress from pinkies on both hands as it has an extended thumb keywell.

    1. Re:Map right alt to enter by islisis · · Score: 1

      Sorry, ring finger chords aren't your solution, i, k, , or j are obviously much better. Anyhow, it's just an idea to get you started.

    2. Re:Map right alt to enter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best solution might involve buying a Kinesis Contoured

      No, the best solution involves addressing the problem he has with using his finger. Working around it will only make the real problem worse. What he needs is physical therapy. If he can't afford an expert, then I'd personally recommend learning to play an instrument which will strengthen the muscles in a more even fashion and develop proper dexterity. Piano is probably the best for that, and will transfer directly to better typing skills. But I'd recommend consulting with an expert of some sort because his condition is most likely very advanced.

  15. Use a programmable keyboard by dshk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can use a Kinesis Advantage keyboard. First, important keys are pressed with the thumb, not the right fingers (Enter, Ctrl, Backspace). Second, the keyboard is programmable, so you can map all problematic keys to the left side and type them together with AltGr (right ALT). I am already using this method, because our national characters take the place of almost every symbol characters, which are important for coding. It is working well.

    1. Re:Use a programmable keyboard by Tomahawk · · Score: 1

      I concur. I've used a Kinesis Ergo keyboard for many years. With a normal keyboard I used to find that I'd get pains in my little finger, especially on the right hand. Shortly after starting to use the Kinesis, those pains vanished.

      The main keys that are normally pressed by the little finger (control, alt, backspace, enter, home, end, windows) are switched to the middle of the keyboard and used by the thumbs. Takes a little getting used to, but before long you'll be using those keys without thinking.
      Shift is still in the usual spot for the little finger, however mine also came with a foot pedal that could be used for shift (or anything else, as it was also programmable). (I never used the foot pedal)

      The only caveat is that they are expensive.

    2. Re:Use a programmable keyboard by KC0A · · Score: 1

      I couldn't work without my old Kinenis Contour Classic. It's twelve years old now and going strong. They seem may expensive at $200+, but they last forever. The only problem is that the keyboard->PC interfaces change. Mine has a PS1 cable, so I need a PS1->PS2 adapter, and a PS2->USB adapter between the keyboard and the laptop.

  16. maybe try ergnomic keyboards/mice too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would recommend trying out some ergonomic keyboards (Logitech K350 highly recommended) too. I had nerve problems in my back and wrists which basically made me unable to use a computer for a number of years. I solved that problem with better posture (reclining with a keyboard on my lap), some exercises, and having better keyboards and mice. I know it's not the same thing, but it's interesting that my problems would first manifest in those two fingers also (because of the nerve/vein bundle that was getting squashed). It took a long time and the right doctor to finally realize that it was actually a back problem. Frankly, if you have bad posture and use conventional keyboards and mice, I think you're fairly likely to get nerve problems in your hands anyway, 5-10 years down the road. (For me, it started as carpal tunnel, which a lot of people get, and years later, the extreme of that was just not being able to use my hands for months at a time.)

  17. Get a second medical opinion by linear+a · · Score: 1

    Get a second medical opinion. Focal dystonia appears to be extremely specific to the activities that caused it. You might have something else going on instead.

  18. HUH? by hurfy · · Score: 1

    Is this even possible? I don't see anything that one needs to use the right pinky for except possibly /.
    Swap the 'P' with something, perhaps 'Z' ?
    Shift your home keys over one? If you're learning new layouts anyways, this seems easier.

    There is only one letter involved, swap 'P' with ',' and there are none. Not sure how you can avoid it more changing all the other letters around.

    Besides, whatever works for you. Not like i used more than 4-5 fingers to type this. Like someone else above my hands move more than my fingers.

    Starting to wonder about Ask Slashdot myself....

    1. Re:HUH? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Is this even possible? I don't see anything that one needs to use the right pinky for except possibly /.

      How about [ ] \ ' ; etc? Or the Enter key?

      --
      "Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
    2. Re:HUH? by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      Is this even possible? I don't see anything that one needs to use the right pinky for except possibly /. Swap the 'P' with something, perhaps 'Z' ? Shift your home keys over one? If you're learning new layouts anyways, this seems easier.

      There is only one letter involved, swap 'P' with ',' and there are none. Not sure how you can avoid it more changing all the other letters around.

      Besides, whatever works for you. Not like i used more than 4-5 fingers to type this. Like someone else above my hands move more than my fingers.

      Starting to wonder about Ask Slashdot myself....

      What do you type to, uh, you know, enter something? Or to, say, return to the left side of the space you're editing?

      --
      I am not a crackpot.
    3. Re:HUH? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ring finger

  19. EMACS by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    Just program EMACS to detect CPU temperature increase and hold down space bar instead!

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  20. Angle Your Hands ... and ... by rjstanford · · Score: 1

    First, I strongly suggest sticking to QWERTY. You'll find yourself typing on large numbers of other people's keyboards over your career - switching all over the place is hard enough when its something little like someone else's pipe sign being in a silly place.

    Even on a laptop you can angle your elbows somewhat out so that your wrists are "straight", using an ergonomic-keyboard position even on a regular flat keyboard like a laptop's. This by itself changes your finger motion significantly. I don't know if that's why, but I basically never use my pinky fingers when I type - and I've been in software professionally since '92 with no particular typing deficiencies.

    --
    You're special forces then? That's great! I just love your olympics!
    1. Re:Angle Your Hands ... and ... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      First, I strongly suggest sticking to QWERTY. You'll find yourself typing on large numbers of other people's keyboards over your career - switching all over the place is hard enough when its something little like someone else's pipe sign being in a silly place.

      And I strongly recommend against that.

      Well over 99.9% of what I type is on a keyboard I control (my own computer, or a computer at work under my login). Using Dvorak over 99.9% of the time is well worth the lack of practise I have using Qwerty.

      Shell users complain about ls (etc) on Dvorak. I have some aliases:
      alias 'h=ls'
      alias 'hh=ls -l'
      alias 'ha=ls -a'
      alias 'hq=ls -q'
      alias 'hr=ls -R'
      alias 'lrt=ls -lrt'
      alias 'hrs=ls -lrS'
      (I also have no problem hitting Ctrl-C, X, V or Z, although they aren't all in a line. Essentially, I don't see the point of Colemak.)

    2. Re:Angle Your Hands ... and ... by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      It may be anacdotal, but even typing plain english (reports, homework, etc), I've found my fingers get MUCH less tired. On querty I had to take breaks every half hour or my fingers would completely seize up. On Colemak I can type for 8 hours straight and still have 80% dexterity in my fingers.

    3. Re:Angle Your Hands ... and ... by seebs · · Score: 1

      Nonsense. I use multiple keyboard layouts, and switching it up is actually a good thing.

      I like Dvorak because it takes a lot less effort to type. I can still type qwerty if I have reason to. Heck, I am right now, on this keyboard. I swap them around. Life's good.

      --
      My blog: http://www.seebs.net/log/ --- My iPhone/iPad app: http://www.seebs.net/seebsfrac/
    4. Re:Angle Your Hands ... and ... by jedwidz · · Score: 1

      Thanks, also came here to suggest an alias for 'ls -l', since that's the worst of the dvorak pinky workouts I've experienced.

      On the cut/copy/paste front, I have a numeric keypad positioned on the left of my keyboard, with those commands mapped to 4/5/6, plus a heap of other commands besides. This makes mousing a two-handed activity, just as Doug Engelbart intended.

  21. QWERTY. by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 2

    No joke. Look at the below picture--the pinky is so under-utilized in QWERTY it looks looks like it has been cut off in the diagram!
    http://infohost.nmt.edu/~shipman/ergo/fig4.jpg

    But really, probably any decently-designed keyboard layout spreads the workload relatively evenly across the fingers. Dvorak does use the pinky and ring fingers quite a bit though, as a result of its design to favor the right hand. I have switched from QWERTY to Dvorak back in early December, and am currently learning Colemak as a second layout... I haven't used Colemak enough to come to a personal opinion on its finger usage, but from what I read it's pretty well evenly split between the fingers.

    Maybe you could go to the CarpalX site and download the program, try setting it up to minimize the use of those fingers and run it yourself to see what it generates. The pre-made fully-optimized CarpalX layouts would probably be of little use, because they were not designed to avoid those fingers at all costs... they were made with the idea of having eight fully-functional fingers, while only slightly reducing the load on those fingers due to their natural weakness.

    Check out this tool to get a nice overview of the hand, finger, row, etc. usage and other stats that might be useful:
    http://patorjk.com/keyboard-layout-analyzer/

    1. Re:QWERTY. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      No joke. Look at the below picture--the pinky is so under-utilized in QWERTY it looks looks like it has been cut off in the diagram!

      Unless you're a programmer, in which case you are using braces, brackets and periods all the time. Also, those special characters reduce the utility of dvorak, as well, because they weren't taken into consideration.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    2. Re:QWERTY. by Richard_J_N · · Score: 1

      The right pinky is used all the time for the arrow keys! And these get pressed multiple times to move around.

    3. Re:QWERTY. by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

      What? The arrow keys, as in those ones between the main keyboard section and the numeric keypad? Maybe I'm just weird, but I never heard of that... I use my pointer and middle finger for those. I am lost as to why anyone would use their pinky for that, or whether there is any logic at all in doing it that way. Not to mention, it would feel awkward as all hell.

    4. Re:QWERTY. by Richard_J_N · · Score: 1

      It *is* really awkward - I agree, and especially it's hard to accurately distinguish left-arrow from down-arrow. But if you have hands in typing position (eg for a trackpoint-style keyboard), then the minimal movement of the hands is to use RH pinky. It's the finger I probalby use most, for shift, and the 4 arrow keys.
      [Btw, none of my keyboards, either desktop or laptop, have a numeric keypad]

    5. Re:QWERTY. by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

      Something tells me it would be far better on your wrist and your pinky if you just moved your entire hand the little extra distance and used one of your other fingers instead of stretching with that pinky. As a general rule, anything above or to the right of the main typing area (including insert, delete, home, end, pg up/dn, function keys, etc.) is pressed with the pointer or middle finger.

      The pinky is the least accurate, the weakest, and the most fragile finger... so it makes sense to cut back on its use unless needed, to prevent injury. It's already bad enough that it has to stretch for backspace, return, right shift, etc., using it outside of the main board seems like it would be overkill.

    6. Re:QWERTY. by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Unless you're a programmer, in which case you are using braces, brackets and periods all the time. Also, those special characters reduce the utility of dvorak, as well, because they weren't taken into consideration.

      Remap them if you wish, but I think the importance of doing so for a programmer is overstated. The symbols above the numbers don't change between Dvorak and Qwerty, and the others are in better places in Dvorak. The annoying ones are []{}, which take the place of -_=+, but I type the latter (and /?) more often, especially considering I don't type only code, but email, comments, documentation, Slashdot posts, etc.

      See http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0VqZDhqX for a couple of Java projects and a Perl one. {} and () are overstated, due to generated Java getters and setters. } is often input automatically by my editor. I hardly type > as the editor completes XML/HTML elements.

      (My British keyboard, like all non-European and most non-US keyboards, contains an extra key. This is usually used for accents or extra letters, like Å or ß. Since English doesn't need these, the extra two symbols are for £ (fine) and , which I probably type about once a year. Though writing if (test) would be neat. I type €, , or — more often).

    7. Re:QWERTY. by Imagix · · Score: 1

      Yikes. I've never tried to use the pinky for the arrow keys.... too far to reach. I usually move the entire hand.

    8. Re:QWERTY. by Ambiguous+Puzuma · · Score: 1

      Something tells me it would be far better on your wrist and your pinky if you just moved your entire hand the little extra distance and used one of your other fingers instead of stretching with that pinky.

      I agree with this. I've never been able to curl my pinkies without also curling my ring finger, and it hasn't hurt my career as a developer in the least. I just learned to hit a few of the keys with my ring finger instead of my pinky, with small hand movements as needed.

      Keys I hit with my left ring finger instead of my left pinky: ` 1 tab
      Keys I hit with my right ring finger instead of my right pinky: 0 - = backspace [ ] ; /
      (Hitting semicolon with my ring finger and then enter with my pinky turned out to be quite convenient in many common programming languages, where lines tend to end with semicolons.)
      I use the left shift key exclusively, and when holding it down, my left ring finger takes over the Q A Z keys.

      Despite these changes, I type slightly faster than most of my peers, and unless typing continuously for an extended period of time (which is very rare when programming) I never feel any kind of fatigue in my hands.

  22. norman by blindbat · · Score: 1

    http://normanlayout.info/ This is similar to workman, and might be better. I've been experimenting with Dvorak but find I don't like the lateral movement to i and d, as well as the right pinky for s and l. For qwerty, I would only swap f and t for the left hand. The right hand would need a little more substitution. For me, reaching up with the first three fingers (or down with index) is no problem, but I really don't like the heavy lateral index finger movement.

    1. Re:norman by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

      That layout has some killer same hand, same finger, row jumping. The location of P and M in relation to the U will undoubtedly lead to a hell of a bad time, just barely better than QWERTY. Imagine typing "jump" or "hump" or "pumpkin" or many similar words with similar sequences. Hell, even one of the simplest, two-letter words ("up") involves this same hand/finger row jumping! The guy who created the layout made a topic at the Colemak forums where I mentioned these problems, and he never replied. Sad too, because IMO the Workman layout sucks, but in general the Norman layout seems to be slightly better laid out while keeping Workman's one and only redeeming value (reduction of lateral movement), but it's clearly still very flawed...

  23. Smaller format keyboard + minor retraining by Psychofreak · · Score: 1

    A smaller format keyboard that you can allow your pinky finger to do less since the other fingers can reach easily, as well as some minor retraining will allow you to type at nearly the same rate without a large learning curve. You can also look at some of the different brands and ergonomic keyboard types and see if the computer function (return, command, alt, etc) are in more suitable locations for your hands.

    With my old EEE I only used 2 fingers for typing since the keyboard was so small.

    Phil

    --
    Laugh, it's good for you!
  24. Carpal X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/

    This guy has written some extensive scripts to find optimal keyboard layouts. You could probably derive a model from his work. Personally, I use Dvorak and find it much more efficient than QWERTY

  25. make shifting less necessary by Crimey+McBiggles · · Score: 1

    Since I type of a lot of symbols and fewer numbers, it helps to be able to make typing symbols easier. I do this with an alternate layout that I can switch to with a hot key. It inverts the shift of the number keys and makes them sensitive to caps lock. I wrote a blog post about this. http://dctucker.wordpress.com/2013/01/28/keyboard-layouts/

    --
    Crimey
  26. Do it the American Way by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    You have a disability that affects your ability to work.

    Go on Disability.

    Sue the Clarinet maker and anyone who ever encouraged you to play Clarinet for the difference between your SSDI checks and whatever you would have made as a programmer, including any and all attorney fees and court costs.

    Maybe even go for treble damages (har har) since whomever is responsible for forcing you to play clarinet either knew or should have known that there was a significant risk of a permanent disabling injury, and was therefore grossly negligent in placing your entire lifetime career in unreasonable jeopardy.

    Then, you won't need to worry about keyboard layouts.

    1. Re:Do it the American Way by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      The OP says he's a high school senior.

      1. I'm doubting he works as a professional programmer for a company yet.
      2. He's likely the one who chose to play the clarinet, and if not him it's his parents who encouraged it (yeah, lets sue them).
      3. He's not likely in his "career" yet.

      This reminds me of the stories of star high school athletes who seem to be all lined up for a college sports scholarship and hopes of making it to the pros -- and then have that unfortunate injury that benches them from the sport.

      The result: time to rethink your future.

    2. Re:Do it the American Way by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      None of that matters. As a minor, his is legally incapable of making his own decisions, including whether to play the Clarinet. His parents had a legal obligation to determine whether choosing to play the Clarinet was

          1) safe for him, and that it would not cause him a permanent disabling injury

          2) would not prevent him from pursuing his happiness by engaging in what they knew or should have known by his senior year in high school were his long-term career aspirations

      Potential future income is always fair game in a civil trial.

      If the child is still a minor, I would seriously consider involving Child Protective Services, since the parents have so obviously proved negligent in their duties of care.

  27. MUCH SIMPLER SOLUTION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I lost the use of my left pinky in a childhood accident. After I graduated and starting programming professionally I found that the lifeless finger really interfered with my typing. So I quit programming and became a gangster. After a few years I got involved in the lucrative black market whale meat trade, necessitating a move to Japan. Fifteen years on I was, despite my lily-white ass, trusted by the locals and initiated as a full yakuza. The next day I called the boss a cunt and he required me to cut off my left pinky to atone.

    Finally rid of the useless digit I moved back to the States and resumed my career as a programmer. Don't be wasting your time with non-standard keyboards.

  28. Have you tried splinting your 3rd/4th fingers? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    There might be an obvious reason not to do this, but considering how few keys are typed by the right pinky you might be able to get away with this. It would also have the advantage of being able to easily use other keyboards that you may come across in your regular existence.

    --
    Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
  29. One handed rig by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

    Have you considered a one-handed wonderbox, like a Twiddler?

    Haven't used, and they always seemed dumb to me, but if you're already considering left handed Dvorak, maybe this is what you're looking for.

    1. Re:One handed rig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bought one years ago. Returned it. If he he has a tendancy toward RSI anyhow, the Twiddler will render hi other hand useless.

  30. Don't leave your fingers on the home row. by bipbop · · Score: 1

    Pianists move their hands around. So can you! Keeping your fingers on the home row isn't particularly ergonomic or efficient. Typing is like playing an instrument: just keep your wrists relatively straight and relaxed and type with whichever fingers seem most natural. If you don't want to use your pinky, just move your hand over a little and hit a key with your ring finger. If you don't want to use your ring finger either, move over a little further and use your middle finger instead. As long as you stay relaxed and keep your posture relatively neutral, you can hit any key with any finger you want.

    Take frequent breaks. Shake out tension with your wrists hanging limp at your sides. Go for walks. No matter how ergonomic or neutral your posture, it's not healthy to stay in the same position forever; no matter how relaxed you try to be, you'll build up some tension over time. Just listen to your body: if something hurts, stop. Take care of yourself. Simple as that.

  31. Since someone talked about suing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People who go on disability and then sue for such frivolous reasons are a waste of life.
    Time for tort reform!

  32. qwerty typing by Naut · · Score: 1

    I am a self taught typist , had no formal training . With that being said , I wouldn't give up on qwerty . I barley ever use thoose two fingers to type even the I am right handed . I use my left a whole lot more of the time . I don't' many mistakes , and when I do it's usually hitting the key next to the letter I intend to use .

    --
    i have no sig
    1. Re: qwerty typing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your iq is a multiple of 80 amiright?

  33. TrulyErgonomic (Mechanical, Ergonomic) by corsec67 · · Score: 1

    http://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/index.php

    Unfortunately, this isn't a layout so much as a rather expensive, different kind of keyboard. But this is an ergonomic keyboard with mechanical switches, so it feels better than all of the rubber dome switch-based keyboard out there.

    Enter, backspace, and tab are moved to the middile of the keyboard, which changes how necessary the pinkies are.

    --
    If I have nothing to hide, don't search me
    1. Re:TrulyErgonomic (Mechanical, Ergonomic) by Myopic · · Score: 1

      I came here to say this.

      Both of my hands and all ten of my digits work fine, but I own this keyboard and love it. It is what I use as a programmer all day long. It is a high-quality keyboard with nice keys. The keys are arranged in columns (my personal favorite feature), which takes about five minutes to get used to. For the OP, the most important part about it is that many of the keys which are accessed by pinkys on a normal keyboard are moved to the center of the layout, accessed by the strong pointer fingers.

      Parent poster isn't the first person who has called it an expensive keyboard but I don't consider it expensive. It's less expensive, for instance, than one single trip to the doctor or physical therapist. Trust me, if it works for OP, then it will be worth its cost many times over. And as I said before it is also a well-constructed keyboard. Unless someone builds a better keyboard someday, I expect to use mine forever. It costs one day's wages for middle class people, maybe less.

      Good luck.

    2. Re:TrulyErgonomic (Mechanical, Ergonomic) by holophrastic · · Score: 1

      Damn, I didn't see this thread. My Truly advice is below. Eh, I'll duplicate it here for easy reading. And yeah, it's not expensive if it lasts for ten years.

      www.trulyergonomic.com

      I bought one a year ago, a blank-keycap version actually. I use in dvorak mode, though I've modified the layout very slightly.

      Regarding your pinky, there are three improvements.

      The biggest is actually that the keys don't have a typewriter stagger. In the vertical axis this are columnar. In the horizontal access, they follow the wave that your finger tips follow. The result is that your fingers take a simpler path to farther keys, making your straight pinky more operational.

      Second, many major keys are actually in the center. Including backspace and enter -- which I'm certain you've always had under that right pinky. It took one week. but man are they way better in the middle! bigger keys, bigger fingers, striking them in the middle of the keycap. All good.

      Third, and you may find this the best part, the shift keys are higher up -- where enter and caps lock typically are. So your straight pinky would actually still easily grab the shift key on the home row.

      Of course, proper cherry switches, heavy keyboard.

    3. Re:TrulyErgonomic (Mechanical, Ergonomic) by jedwidz · · Score: 1

      That's somewhat similar to my TypeMatrix, but also a bit different. I'd like to try one.

      My experience of the TypeMatrix is generally very positive. However, I find the placement of the '5' and '6' keys to be just too different from a standard keyboard, which made for a steep learning curve and ongoing difficulties switching between TypeMatrix (for my desktop) and regular (for my laptop).

  34. Programmer DVORAK by brisk0 · · Score: 1

    I've only used a QWERTY keyboard, and I was originally taught to type how you were saying was uncomfortable for you, with home rows and specific fingers for specific keys. I don't have a specific problem but my pinkies kind of suck so as I've gotten more used to the keyboard layout I've just been more fluid in my typing. 90% of keys I hit with my index fingers, although my other fingers and even pinkies do come in to play every now and again, presumably due to some distance/usefulness tradeoff. I've tested for both formal and informal typing speeds (home row vs. hands shifting about) and found that they are virtually identical speeds at 90WPM for me. Basically, I would say keep to the keyboard you know best but try a different style that's more comfortable.

  35. Layouts aren't important... but Dvorak has issues by jaffray · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Speaking as someone who's still struggling with the extensor tendinitis he developed as a young programmer over 15 years ago, with hundreds of nights of pain and hundreds of thousands in lost earnings as a result...

    First: It's a natural hacker impulse to focus on keyboard layouts and hardware and other fun toys like that. Resist that urge. The importance of that stuff is tiny compared to good overall ergonomic habits, good posture, taking breaks, and managing tension. Get all the help that you can on those issues. Watch your own habits. Have someone else watch you. Make adjustments.

    Second: Having said that... when I was first having hand trouble, I switched to Dvorak. This was, for me, a very poor decision. As you've noticed, Dvorak overloads the right pinky finger, which is a bad idea on a typewriter, but a horrible idea on a computer keyboard where other often-used keys are on the right edge of the layout.

    Moving the entire arm to hit Enter and other right-edge keys with a non-pinky finger helped some, but not enough. After a couple weeks of increasing right-pinky pain, I simply swapped the L and P keys, so the commonly-used L was on the left index instead of the right pinky.

    The L/P swap helped with the overloading, but exacerbated my second problem with a new layout, which was greater tension while typing. Even though I felt comfortable with Dvorak on a conscious level, I was still sometimes tensing up before keystrokes as my fingers weren't sure which way to go for an extra few milliseconds. And I was still having to use QWERTY keyboards often enough that I couldn't completely banish that muscle memory. Eventually I just switched back to QWERTY. More finger-mileage, yes, but is finger-mileage really the issue? It wasn't for me.

    Third: No, really. Spend your time on the annoying difficult-to-scientifically-analyze meatspace issues like posture, not on keyboard layouts.

  36. DataHand by wonkavader · · Score: 1

    The obvious answer is DataHand. Nothing else seems so well designed. But you can't get one anymore, and if you could they'd be more than you could afford. They always were, even when they were making them.

  37. thumb return by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A large part of what your pinky does is slam the return key over and over again. Get something like a Kinesis contour or the expensive Data Hand which uses the thumb for return key. It will take a huge load off your right pinky.

    1. Re:thumb return by hawguy · · Score: 1

      A large part of what your pinky does is slam the return key over and over again. Get something like a Kinesis contour or the expensive Data Hand which uses the thumb for return key. It will take a huge load off your right pinky.

      Or just remap the useless caps lock key to act as a return key.

    2. Re:thumb return by Osgeld · · Score: 2

      its not that useless in programming

    3. Re:thumb return by hawguy · · Score: 1

      its not that useless in programming

      Really? I've never seen anyone use it while programming. Even when I'm typing long stretches of code in ALL CAPS like SQL statements, I never use the shift-lock.

      I've tried mapping it to Control or Esc, but found that didn't really help with anything and just made it harder to use a different keyboard that wasn't remapped.

      Maybe my distaste for CapsLock comes from the fact that my editor is case-sensitive, and I don't want to have to remember the state of the CapsLock key when escaping into edit mode. Do most developers use caps lock for typing capitlized constants and other things?

    4. Re:thumb return by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no no no! The Caps Lock key is remapped to Control, where God intended it to be. Unless you're using a Kinesis Countour which has thumb keys for Control too.

    5. Re:thumb return by dshk · · Score: 1

      Do most developers use caps lock for typing capitlized constants and other things?

      Yes. Since I have learned touch typing, I use CAPS LOCK extensively. Like in the previous sentence. If I have to type more than two (or one?) upper case characters I always use it.

      It was indeed one of the most difficult key to learn, maybe because if I accidentally hit another key, the usual Backspace does not correct it. But it is well worth to learn it. Otherwise I had to switch between LEFT SHIFT and RIGHT SHIFT after almost every character, which drives me crazy. I am not sure, but I assume, that those who hate CAPS LOCK never really learned touch typing well, if at all.

      It is by no accident that there was a SHIFT LOCK key on every typewriter (and that was less useful than CAPS lock), which was mostly used by professional typists.

    6. Re:thumb return by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      when writing a few letters in caps I always hit it, then again I dont use archaic style editors that require me to hit more than a alt combo to access all of its features regardless of case

      my model M has 104 keys, alt, ctrl and ctrl alt gives me 1124864 possible combinations, more than I care to remember

    7. Re:thumb return by hawguy · · Score: 1

      when writing a few letters in caps I always hit it, then again I dont use archaic style editors that require me to hit more than a alt combo to access all of its features regardless of case

      my model M has 104 keys, alt, ctrl and ctrl alt gives me 1124864 possible combinations, more than I care to remember

      You want 1124864 keyboard combinations, but can't remember that the first letter of a sentence is capitalized or which punctuation is used to end a sentence, and don't know where apostrophes are used?

      Well, at least you don't use an archaic editor, I guess that's something.

    8. Re:thumb return by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Do most developers use caps lock for typing capitlized constants and other things?

      Yes. Since I have learned touch typing, I use CAPS LOCK extensively. Like in the previous sentence. If I have to type more than two (or one?) upper case characters I always use it.

      It was indeed one of the most difficult key to learn, maybe because if I accidentally hit another key, the usual Backspace does not correct it. But it is well worth to learn it. Otherwise I had to switch between LEFT SHIFT and RIGHT SHIFT after almost every character, which drives me crazy. I am not sure, but I assume, that those who hate CAPS LOCK never really learned touch typing well, if at all.

      It is by no accident that there was a SHIFT LOCK key on every typewriter (and that was less useful than CAPS lock), which was mostly used by professional typists.

      I almost exclusively use the left shift key for typing ALL CAPS, and just use my left ring finger to cover for my little finger when I'm typing all caps. Oddly, when I'm typing in mixed case, I use both shift keys, using the right caps key for letters I type with my left hand. I learned touch typing on a typewriter, but I did most of my early programming on a Sun keyboard that has the Caps Lock moved down below the left shift key and has a Control key where the Caps lock key is on a typewriter.

    9. Re:thumb return by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      ohh witty a grammar troll on slashdot

      fine, keep rockin vi like it was 1976, least I am not holding a button for caps two keys away from the caps lock, cause you have tunnel vision so bad from being an anal examiner, that you cant see the keyboard light out of the corner of your eye

      and no fuckwit, I DONT want 1124864 key combinations, as I already stated, more than I care to remember, I dont think that my coding is so precious to the universe that mankind will suffer if I point and click at a menu the few times I actually need to use most commands outside of find

  38. gloves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bass player and instructor Scott Devine discovered that wearing gloves while playing his instrument provides an efficacious workaround to the symptoms of focal dystonia.

  39. Most of you have it wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Layouts smlayouts... Being a wicked lead guitar player turned wicked IDE rocker, you've all be crammed into a mold.

    Consider the difference between virtuoso's who can compose music on the fly, virtuoso's who can write to staff the sounds they hear in their own head, versus the musician that needs both the staff of the music and the staff of the director befor them to perform as a part of the whole. Of course there are execptions to every exception, however, it comes down to something ripping lead guitar players like me learn.

    Number 1. try to type with only your thumb and ring finger when they are free and able to hit the target key regardless of if there is another finger closer.
    Number 2. use the index and middle fingers to support the thumb and the ring fingers when they are engaged.
    Number 3 Use the pinkies for supporting the ring finger and for rocking on the arrow/ insert/delete clusters.

    Its not about the finger ZONE, its about the finger ORDER of usage where you have a choice. Very bad example but imagine hitting 'space' t'g'b' by going thumb,ring,middle,index all on the left hand, and almost instantaneous. Pinkies are for rocking the tab and arrow menu subselection of the ide primarily.

    ROCK ON!

  40. Don't be a pussy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pinky Finger? Seriously?

  41. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  42. Colemak by WrecklessSandwich · · Score: 1

    I tried Dvorak first when ditching QWERTY as well and ran into the same issue. Having to use only my pinky for ls -l was not acceptable. I ended up switching to Colemak instead and haven't looked back. About half of the keys are unchanged from QWERTY so it's easier than Dvorak to switch back and forth with QWERTY in a pinch. I have mine set up with the caps lock key unmodified though, I need it for C macros and PCB layout etc so no left hand backspace for me. In your case, you might want that left backspace key. http://colemak.com/

    1. Re:Colemak by Burz · · Score: 1

      I'll second the Colemak recommendation. Its a lot more balanced between the L/R hands and doesn't make your right pinky reach upward or downward for letters (the Qwerty 'P' becomes semicolon, and the slash stays put) so most of the time all your right pinky has to worry about is 'O' on the home row. Going by the analysis at the CarpalX site (which evaluates many different layouts), Colemak gives you about 13% more efficiency overall than Dvorak gives over Qwerty.

      Colemak is also the second most popular alternative and seems to be closing in on Dvorak. Apple and most Linux distros are including it as standard. Over at Geekhack (keyboard enthusiast site) there are noticeably more Colemak users than Dvorak users.

    2. Re:Colemak by xaxa · · Score: 1

      I tried Dvorak first when ditching QWERTY as well and ran into the same issue. Having to use only my pinky for ls -l was not acceptable.

      Presumably you have "ls -l" aliased to "ll". I additionally aliased it to "hh", which makes it very easy to type in Dvorak.
          alias "hh=ls -l"
          alias "lrt=ls -lrt"

      For that single thing it's not worth switching to the sub-optimal Colemak.

  43. i do desad e pole... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    qi coplaii i ae e sae isse excep i aecs poie is

  44. Funny you should ask... by jesse · · Score: 1

    I designed this just a couple weeks ago:

    http://blog.fsck.com/2013/01/pinkies-and-your-brain.html

    I've been using it and am fairly happy with it.

  45. Colemak uses less pinky by locopuyo · · Score: 1

    One of the advantages from Colemak.com "Fast – Most of the typing is done on the strongest and fastest fingers. Low same-finger ratio."

  46. You still have your two first digits, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what's wrong with old fashioned two finger Hunt and Peck? Hell you can even throw in the second fingers now and then, and the thumbs for the space bar and the control key.

  47. Realforce with variable force by jcfandino · · Score: 1

    Some Realforce keyboards have variable weight on some keys, for instance 35g for the keys under the pinkies and 45g on the rest.

  48. Yes, try botchuism (sic) shots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a common ailment that effects the brain for musicians with repetitive motions. My brother suffers from it and receives injections at the Cleveland Clinic which allows the nerves/brain to 'relearn'. The shots last about 4-6 months. You should look into it if you have insurance. I believe that they are costly though.

  49. Get a programmable keyboard by statsone · · Score: 1

    I was having the problem with crtl c and v. A Logitech G110 has 12 programmable keys on the left side. I use the bottom 2 for copying and pasting which I use a lot in adding products to a website.

  50. truly ergonomic by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    www.trulyergonomic.com

    I bought one a year ago, a blank-keycap version actually. I use in dvorak mode, though I've modified the layout very slightly.

    Regarding your pinky, there are three improvements.

    The biggest is actually that the keys don't have a typewriter stagger. In the vertical axis this are columnar. In the horizontal access, they follow the wave that your finger tips follow. The result is that your fingers take a simpler path to farther keys, making your straight pinky more operational.

    Second, many major keys are actually in the center. Including backspace and enter -- which I'm certain you've always had under that right pinky. It took one week. but man are they way better in the middle! bigger keys, bigger fingers, striking them in the middle of the keycap. All good.

    Third, and you may find this the best part, the shift keys are higher up -- where enter and caps lock typically are. So your straight pinky would actually still easily grab the shift key on the home row.

    Of course, proper cherry switches, heavy keyboard.

  51. Finger Tendinitis: Warm gloves, Kinesis keyboard by kyewix · · Score: 1

    I have tendinitis in my fingers. I wear gloves when I type and I use a special keyboard with keys which are softer and less jolting to press. I also use an Autohotkey script to remap my mouse click to the keyboard.

    When my fingers are warmer, they become more supple and hurt less. I read about a surgeon which tendinitis who always soaked his hands in warm water before a surgery and it enabled him to keep on performing his job. Perhaps, the gloves cushion the shock of the keystroke as well. For a keyboard, I use the fantastic Kinesis Advantage keyboard.

    I also use the fantastic program Autohotkey to enable me to click by pressing my thumb on a keyboard key. My clicking finger was always the worst, esp with terrible games like Diablo which require you to madly click as fast as you can for hours. And mice have a hard, jolting click. My thumbs seem invulnerable to any problems. My current version of the Autohotkey script even allows me to "click" and hold and drag then release! It does not do key-repeat like keyboard keypresses normally do.

    I started out with thin polypropylene gloves for a few years. I felt a bit weird wearing them at work. But if I didn't wear them, by the end of the day, I'd become rather irritable. It happened so gradually that I didn't even notice that it had happened unless I thought about it. But as I walked home (10 min), I would cheer up so much. But this problem went away with the gloves. I used to worry that I might have to completely stop typing if the pain got worse and that would kill my career. And then what job can you do without using your hands much!? But my current system has worked well for the last few years so I don't worry so much now.

    Now, in addition to the polypropylene gloves, I also use outer possum-merino wool gloves. My whole body is fairly cold which is partly why I have to wear such warm gloves. I have tried several glove combinations but the problem is finding gloves that are super-warm yet are not so thick or rigid that they prevent me typing. The possum-merino are fantastic - super flexible and super warm. I tried silk and alpaca as well. I find that if my fingers are even toasty warm and slightly moist, that's even better (less minor joint pain). But at 22C-24C, with all my gloves on, my fingers are not toasty warm - just normal. I have a space heater under my desk I turn on if it's I tried usb-powered hand warmers which let the tips of your fingers stick out. They were useless because my fingers need to be warm and warming my palm doesn't warm my fingers much. (although if my whole body is too cold, my fingers will be colder)

    I was originally diagnosed with carpel tunnel syndrome. Many doctors call any RSI in your hands "carpel tunnel" because it's the most well known RSI. I'm fairly certain that's not what I have so I just call it tendinitis in my fingers. The doctor originally prescribed special, expensive carpel gloves with a rigid wrist and let my fingers stick out to type. My thin polypropylene gloves work better.

  52. Re:Layouts aren't important... but Dvorak has issu by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    You must have incredible tension in your body and hands to have that much trouble.

    --
    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  53. Shift by Cyfun · · Score: 0

    as far as I know, the only thing you often need your pinky for is the shift key, and since pretty much nobody capitalizes anything on the internet anymore, what's the big loss/

    --
    In Soviet Russia, dot slashes YOU!
  54. consider this keyboard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It all depends on how much time/energy you want to throw into learning how to type... again.

    Consider this keyboard, if you want to continue with the QWERTY layout:
    http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/sculpt-comfort-keyboard/V4S-00001

    It is still QWERTY - the only difference is that there is an additional Backspace key under the left thumb. The Backspace key is the third most-used key on the keyboard (which tells you something about the human being). Backspace is the main thing that the right pinky finger is doing when you type.

  55. Qwerty works fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just shift your "home keys" from f/j to g/k (or f/k), move the entire hand for pressing bksp/enter/right shiftkeys (will be a lot easier if you rip out the windows-key on the right side).

    Or just cross the hands (so that the right hand's pinky rests on the the left hand) (this one will require a bit more training)

    Or remap most of the right-hand keys to the numerical keyboard.

    And yes, I've used them all (sport-related injuries) (but I did remap the keyboard a bit more (1-6 are letters on my keyboard mapping, I always have numbers under the right hand only))

  56. Lefty! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see you want the WANKER layout!

  57. You will adapt. by mutube · · Score: 1

    Reading other posts saying you 'don't need them' I first thought "ugh, finger-pecking". But having checked myself I do most of the typing with the first and second fingers myself. The left third finger gets a bit of action in the QWASZX region + tab. While the right third is mostly lazy occasionally helping out with a ;'. Right pinky is Return, left pinky Caps lock/Shift.

    I actually got my left pinky knackered in a play fight with an ex girlfriend (she kicked the fingers right back and the little one never recovered). At the time I was convinced it would be a major problem and affect my typing - but it really isn't. Incidentally, my right pinky was also broken during birth and has always being bent. I just tested 80wpm on an unseen text.

    You'll adapt to your injury just fine if you stop obsessing about it.

  58. Count the transitions between hands by xaxa · · Score: 1

    Colemak is limited by being stuck with Qwerty conventions.

    Dvorak considers the transitions between left and right hand, as well as the row and finger for each symbol.

    Sticking the most recent book from Gutenberg ("The King of the Mountains") through a script which counts hand transitions, I get this:
    Qwerty: 159876 transitions
    Colemak: 170978 transitions
    Dvorak: 199143 transitions

    10MB of Linux kernel source (my Perl script is too slow for more...)
    Qwerty: 4081041 transitions
    Colemak: 4412425 transitions
    Dvorak: 4776202 transitions

    (See the scan with the inverted characters here: http://infohost.nmt.edu/~shipman/ergo/parkinson.html -- I wrote a script to do this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4966987 )

  59. i have no hands and type 100wpm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg0-tt9FwZk

    please mod up

    that link will send you to a page where i demonstrate typing at peak speeds of 115wpm with no hands and no special adaptations.

    basically, in my humble opinion, you have to adapt and stop acting so pessimistic.

    -michael vega

    i'm posting anonymouscoward because id prefer to leave my real 6-digit uid slashdot account unconnected to my real life identity, but yes i have great karma and post/mod here every day.

  60. Maybe switch programming languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C and Java requires the frequent use of {}[]'" But there are plenty of languages that do not, such as Erlang, ML, and COBOL.

    You could also just make your own keyboard layout. and map shift-1 to shift-9 to the symbols you need in programming often. Then just carry around a config for windows, mac and linux on a USB key. Maybe write an installer for it, since you are a programmer.
    With a little effort you could use ctrl-1 to ctrl-9 for those keys and keep the regular shift behavior of those keys. I'm not sure if it works on all OSes, but it definitely was easy to set up on Linux.

  61. Try Ergonomic Keyboards as well by Accordion+Noir · · Score: 1

    I'd recommend trying the various ergonomic keyboards as well. A few centimetres change in posture or desk/chair height can make a remarkable difference too.

    Unfortunately, trial and error have been my most successful way of finding solutions. I tried three different keyboards before getting one of the portable Goldtouch ones with the adjustable keyboard angle. It helped a lot, quite quickly. (My issue was with the tendons on top of my hands so ymmv.)

    Good job to get working on this now, better than waiting years with further damage.

    --
    "Ruthlessly pursuing the idea that the accordion is just another instrument."
  62. Superglue and key mappings by AardvarkCelery · · Score: 1

    Here's how I solved my pinky problem:

    1. Learn to type without your pinky fingers. Your left pinkies normally cover Q, A, Z. You can use your left 4th (ring) finger on those if you train your wrist a little. Similarly, you can also use your right 4th finger on 0, P, ; (semicolon), and . (period). For -, =, [, ], \, ', and, /, you'll need to move your elbow, which is less coordinated (unless you're also a violinist, I guess). To make it easier, I put a dot of superglue on the 0 and P keys so I could position my 2nd (pointer) finger on them and then find the keys next to them without looking down every time. Ctrl is easy to find since it's at the corner of the keyboard. Alt is next to the spacebar which is long and smooth, so I learned it find it, too, without looking.
    2. Remap the apps you use most to use stronger fingers. I primarily use Vim for coding and Opera as a web browser. Both are extremely customizable. In Vim, I set <F5> to _ (underscore), <F6> to [] (pair of square brackets), <F7> to () parentheses, and so on. I made the spacebar a substitute for the : (colon), which is ubiquitous in Vim. I set up Opera so I can browse most sites mouse-free using the fingers other than the pinkies. For example, < goes back, > goes forward, and j/k/h/l move through the links in the page.
    3. Beware of your wrists. As I was learning to do this, I developed a very sore wrist from the new rotation that I wasn't used to. Chair arm rests were helpful to move at least a little of the burden to my elbows. Also, a custom made (by me) keyboard wrist pad helped give my wrists some rest. Most importantly, I set timers to force myself to take breaks.

    My problem was not dystonia, but a combination of tendinitis and carpel tunnel syndrome (diagnosed by a neurologist, but mild as far as CTS goes). However, I think the solutions I found might be useful for any programmer trying to cut down on pinky strain.

  63. Wrong languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe you should just think about using a more concise programming environment (?). Having started to use Clojure recently, I can usually express myself in 10% of the amount of code I would have to type in Java/C/C++ or other imperative languages (even lisp used that way). Looking at reference implementations of algorithms generally underlines this . Lisp nicely wraps up any DSL, so you can do stuff like SQL or HTML in very composable functional style. If you are typing all the time and not thinking most of the time when programming, you are doing it wrong! Switching layouts can never fix that.

  64. I reduced right pinky load with this layout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I modified the Maltron layout to come up with something that reduced load on both pinkies (amongst other things). I can't claim any particular expertise in keyboard design, but it's been working OK for me for the past 12 years. http://www.agilekiwi.com/other/news/my-keyboard-layout/

  65. My perfect setup. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Colemak + "ctrl" mapped to "alt" key is heaven for Vim users.

  66. Foot pedals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I began suffering from wrist strain, I began using foot pedals to do all of my chording (Emacs is very chord-heavy). I use the pedals for Shift, Control, and Alt - no more chords and thus no more pinky access to those keys. It helped me dramatically and has provided endless "water-cooler" discussions over the years.