My boss uses something like this. He set it up somehow such that it crashed the email server at the company. Good thing he's a VP at a tiny company, I guess, otherwise he could have lost his job or gotton in trouble. Instead he just caused more work for our mail admin.
Since I use earthlink, I have to say I'd rather deal with the mailing lists then the spam. I only belong to two right now, and both are pretty quiet. So unsubscribing may be best for now. I get hundreds of emails a day and it is ALL spam. It has made me give up my inbox and filter my email based on people I know. It sorta works. I basicaly move mail from people I know using the sender is in my address book of mozilla 1.3 to another folder. Revice what is left in the inbox and then delete.
I do get occasional mail from places like apc and a few mailing lists, so they better figure out how I can specify what mail should come though or not.
To me spam is like juml smnail mail. There is just more of it and its free.
Much of the spam that I get is from overseas asian countries. How do you collect tax from them?
Also what happens to people and companies that do telecommuting where many of their employess communicate using email? I have had conversations with some of the people that I work with through email and have exchanged 100+ email in a day on the same subject. While I would prefer them to come into the office, I know they like being able to work at home.
Taxing email is NOT the solution. People will end up paying tax on email they did not send.
The solution is to change the email protocol to include something like PGP signatures. Something that cannot be faked (real tought). Then I go to my ISP and let them know what sigs to allow when I set up my account. Then they ONLY allow email into their system that matches the signatures.
Well I admit spam is pretty bad and I have given up my inbox to the spamers. My new approach of using email filters is to move mail from people I know to another folder has worked much better. Now I just need mozilla to recognize case insensitive email addresses. 'Sender' 'is in my address book ' move to 'new folder' works really well. Then a quick glance at my inbox to see if there is anything from anyone I know. Then select all / delete....
Well it may be true, what if the code in SCO actually came from Linux instead? Did they find this out AFTER Caldera bought them and put the code there?
Personally I think this is going to be tough to prove, unless they can show exactly when and who put it in the code. Also just because someone uses code that was put in illegally, that does not necessarily mean they are punishable for that. Ignorance goes a long way...
What you are talking about has been done. Examples are vim, emacs, word, mozilla. Many programs have keyboard shortcuts. In fact the app that I work on for a living, has shortcuts, that are all modeled after the console app that they came from. So you can be just as fast. The problem is that he has probably run across the GUIs for kde and gnome and many of the unix GUIs that are out there, where keybord shortcuts are an after thought.
I'd say it that they have not tried. Also think about a large corporation like Earthlink. They have their 'spaminator'. I think this is either a partnership or a home grown product (more likely a partnership). I think att.net is the same with a 'different' spaminator. If they just switch it may be breaking a partnership. If the spaminator were to start using spamassassin then elink would probably say wtf and drop them. In this case and I am sure there are others, it baseically breaks down to a business decision. Earthlink does not allow relaying either. I'm kinda pissed at some of these ISP's, like elink, they say I can't spam, but they do not do enough so that I don't get inendated with spam.
NOt everyone is using spamassassin. The problem is that ISP's need to install it and then set it up. They don't, so we get spam. I get LOTS of spam each day and about 75% of it gets filtered through my mozilla filters. I'm now working at a different approach.
I now have a new folder call it inbox_xxx. If someone is in my address book it gets into this email folder. If it gets to one of my mailing lists or other filters it gets in the proper folders. Otherwise it now stays in my inbox, where it is considered hostile spam and gets nuked!
I just started this approach and think it could work. I don't get mail from people I don't know so I hope this works. Still testing.
... that if you use the CD-R to back up your own personal data that you are allowed a 12 cents refund for each backup of you own data? I use my CD-R to back up my digialy camera pictures, documents and programs I write... I guess its good I don't live there otherwise I'd have to pay the record companies money to back up my own data.... in the US I'd want to sue...
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I use ipsec and wep on my wireless. wep is the 'tease'.. and ipsec does the work. This is because I want to secure the entirety of traffic...
I can do ssh over ipsec as you mentioned. I never really noticed a speed slowdown, but never benchmarked it.
If there is only one port and one protocol that you are trying to secure then ssh tunneling will suffice. That is assuming you can direct ALL the traffic you want through that tunnel. I have a friend who set up a tunnel to tunnel port 139 so he could mount windows shares at home. Problem is that he could only mount 1 share at a time.
From the sounds of it this is the case.
With ssh tunneling it would be easeier to setup. Anyone could set up the tunnel. With ipsec it is required that one have sysadmin privs or have ipsec set up.
Key exchange is the real thing here. In ipsec keys are required (AFAIK). You can also set up racoon and have auto-exchanging keys. In ssh you have the option to setup keys to be required, but by default they are not. So ssh could be either an encrypted telnet session or it could be a key excehange encrypted session. I always opt for a key exchange session. Personally I go for the more secure the better. Just my parynoia though. It all depends on your level of required security and what you want to secure.
I got 65 spam emails today.. that was since I checked my email 12 hours ago.. at this rate I'd get about 100+ emails a day. If I go on vacation and don't check my email for a week, I'd have about 700+.
CA has a new don't call list, where's the don't spam list? I am so tired of spam, I think its time for a new email protocol that prevents unwanted email. My spam filters only catch about 75% of the spam coming in. I wish mozilla could do regular expressions in their email filter. I also wish I knew how their not in address book feature worked.
.. because it does not do https request or at least 7 did not.. which means no SSL and to login to my yahoo it seems they do a http to https to http redirect thing that does not work in amaya. There is no javescript support. While some people like this javascript is really useful and used on many pages. I can use lynx on my slow hardware and it can view my yahoo. I can save my yahoo and then view it in links-gui and it is much better (links gui supports javascript but sketchy https). On my faster hardware I use bloatzilla (mozilla) it has all the features I want in a browser and on my hardware doesn't do that bad. In fact I find it better than IE, cause mozilla has popup blocking && control so only sites I want to allow popups can. Cookie control is rocking. Form manager is useful, IMHO. I do most of my editing in a plain text editor like Jedir, Gel or nedit, or even vi.
ROTFLOL.. how true... is slashdot running out of things to post?
The title of this article had me confused, since I have been running a FreeBSD DHCP client for a while now. I guess they are talking about setting up DHCP servers, but still that's been around for a while to.
.. to do that.. team building is usually pretty easy. The problem is that you need to already have the people up to their technical speed from the start.
You can try mental exercises with the group. Have them start with solving 'fake' problems. Make up scenerios and then how you would solve the problems. Not really knowing what your company does it is hard to say exactly how to do that.
he got a 5050 or something and it didn't lasat 1 print job.. it was a dud;-) rotflol.. seriously.. they are sending him a new one after actually making him do some test.. scary part was that one of the tests he had to be online and they tried to reset the printer remotely... true story folks.. big brother may know what you are printing
depends on your network connection speed... now that I have dsl I download... b-4 I would buy from cheapbytes or someplace like that...
It also depends if you have a cd burner... since I have one I download the smallest cd iso for freebsd and do a very basic install and then add to that...
Hmm.. now that I think about it what about all those Linksys Netgear, dlink, etc devices that have built in NAT? Would it be against the law to sell or buy one of these devices? Lots of companies could be f*****, by stupid politicians if this is how this law is interpreted. I see this going to court.
my BSEE says I'm an engineer and I code... though I will say that many of the coders I have meet are monkeys... I'd say it is a 50 / 50 split.. anyone can code, but only a few can code really well...
I'm wondering why all these corporations are not worried at all about this? It would seem to me that any corporation that uses NAT would fall under this. I know the company I work for does. And to notify your ISP each time you hire / fire an employee that you need another IP or whatever would be a huge pain in the butt. I think that these laws will go to court if they pass. Also realize how many people will be under fire as well.
"conceal from a communication service provider... the existence or place of origin or destination of any communication"... I asked earthlink if I could do this. They said yes, but they wont support it. For 9.95 THEY would set me up with NAT (http://www.earthlink.net/home/broadband/homenetwo rk/pricing/). If asked if I am doing this I'd say yes. I'm doing this to save IP address, but also to provide a firewall to my network of systems.
If they were to force me to pay the 9.95 for the service then I would require that they support my network. ALL of my network including my BSD and Linux machines. Also if ANY machine got attacked from a hacker or any machine got a virus I would then expect them to take care of this as well. I think I'd be able to make a good enough consumer case against ANY ISP that required me to pay for NAT.
Aside from that I am not 'hiding' anything. ALL machines are coming from my home. The cable box they gave me does NAT internally. I do NAT to their cable box. As far as they are concerned if I have 1 or 10 machines at home they are all 1) coming from my home; 2) coming from the IP address that thier cable modem assigned me.
I think the real juxt of the bill is to prevent IP spoofing. Like if you have a firewall that allows traffic from 207.19.12.3 to your IP and someone spoofs their IP to say that they are 207.19.12.3 to hack the network. Not seeing the actual text of the bills this is all speculative.
His argument "If you send or receive your email via an encrypted connection, you're in violation, because the "To" and "From" lines of the emails are concealed from your ISP by encryption. (The encryption conceals the destinations of outgoing messages, and the sources of incoming messages.)"
Is kinda flimsy. Part of SMTP is MAIL FROM and the other part is RCPT TO. You relly can't conceal this as most good SMTP systems are set up to only allow valid users to issue the MAIL FROM. Again in order to send mail through earthlink I need to be connected to their network through my DSL or a dial up. I've tried at work and it does not work, unless I use their web mail program.
It is good that he is informed and if these laws do apply to NAT then things like IPSEC, ssh / scp, and all encrypted telnet and sftp programs would also violate these laws.
Not sure about your ISP, but Earthlink actually says that they wont help you if you set up your own network, but they also don't say you cannot (AFAIK). However they do provide you home network support for extra if they set you up one. Personally I don't want their support, I don't think their staff could figure out how to connect my heterogeneous network that consists of Win, Mac, BSD's and Linux. Not that its hard, just that they seem windows centric. Yes they support Mac, but kinda secondary, and they have pointer to Linux support, but they have no BSD support that I've seen.
Personally I see this as one of those laws that people make cause they are clueless about technology, and at some point they will go to court. Maybe in 5 years if any of them pass.
Its times like this that I wish BSD's package management system allowed one to upgrade only part of the system without getting the source or doing an upgrade.... That is one thing I do like about linux's rpm. Its easeier to upgrade IMHO.
Oh well this way I get the latest build, who knows maybe they'll have wsmoused in it....
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Since I use earthlink, I have to say I'd rather deal with the mailing lists then the spam. I only belong to two right now, and both are pretty quiet. So unsubscribing may be best for now. I get hundreds of emails a day and it is ALL spam. It has made me give up my inbox and filter my email based on people I know. It sorta works. I basicaly move mail from people I know using the sender is in my address book of mozilla 1.3 to another folder. Revice what is left in the inbox and then delete.
I do get occasional mail from places like apc and a few mailing lists, so they better figure out how I can specify what mail should come though or not.
To me spam is like juml smnail mail. There is just more of it and its free.
This web is an old web and to do what you suggest is like guarding the borders of the US, and even then stuff gets through.
Much of the spam that I get is from overseas asian countries. How do you collect tax from them?
Also what happens to people and companies that do telecommuting where many of their employess communicate using email? I have had conversations with some of the people that I work with through email and have exchanged 100+ email in a day on the same subject. While I would prefer them to come into the office, I know they like being able to work at home.
Taxing email is NOT the solution. People will end up paying tax on email they did not send.
The solution is to change the email protocol to include something like PGP signatures. Something that cannot be faked (real tought). Then I go to my ISP and let them know what sigs to allow when I set up my account. Then they ONLY allow email into their system that matches the signatures.
Well I admit spam is pretty bad and I have given up my inbox to the spamers. My new approach of using email filters is to move mail from people I know to another folder has worked much better. Now I just need mozilla to recognize case insensitive email addresses. 'Sender' 'is in my address book ' move to 'new folder' works really well. Then a quick glance at my inbox to see if there is anything from anyone I know. Then select all / delete....
Well it may be true, what if the code in SCO actually came from Linux instead? Did they find this out AFTER Caldera bought them and put the code there?
Personally I think this is going to be tough to prove, unless they can show exactly when and who put it in the code. Also just because someone uses code that was put in illegally, that does not necessarily mean they are punishable for that. Ignorance goes a long way...
What you are talking about has been done. Examples are vim, emacs, word, mozilla. Many programs have keyboard shortcuts. In fact the app that I work on for a living, has shortcuts, that are all modeled after the console app that they came from. So you can be just as fast. The problem is that he has probably run across the GUIs for kde and gnome and many of the unix GUIs that are out there, where keybord shortcuts are an after thought.
lynx will give you that 'green screen' feeling.. and if you do the web right (no tables ) your pretty much there.
I'd say it that they have not tried. Also think about a large corporation like Earthlink. They have their 'spaminator'. I think this is either a partnership or a home grown product (more likely a partnership). I think att.net is the same with a 'different' spaminator. If they just switch it may be breaking a partnership. If the spaminator were to start using spamassassin then elink would probably say wtf and drop them. In this case and I am sure there are others, it baseically breaks down to a business decision. Earthlink does not allow relaying either. I'm kinda pissed at some of these ISP's, like elink, they say I can't spam, but they do not do enough so that I don't get inendated with spam.
I now have a new folder call it inbox_xxx. If someone is in my address book it gets into this email folder. If it gets to one of my mailing lists or other filters it gets in the proper folders. Otherwise it now stays in my inbox, where it is considered hostile spam and gets nuked!
I just started this approach and think it could work. I don't get mail from people I don't know so I hope this works. Still testing.
... that if you use the CD-R to back up your own personal data that you are allowed a 12 cents refund for each backup of you own data? I use my CD-R to back up my digialy camera pictures, documents and programs I write. .. I guess its good I don't live there otherwise I'd have to pay the record companies money to back up my own data.... in the US I'd want to sue...
I use ipsec and wep on my wireless. wep is the 'tease'.. and ipsec does the work. This is because I want to secure the entirety of traffic...
I can do ssh over ipsec as you mentioned. I never really noticed a speed slowdown, but never benchmarked it.
If there is only one port and one protocol that you are trying to secure then ssh tunneling will suffice. That is assuming you can direct ALL the traffic you want through that tunnel. I have a friend who set up a tunnel to tunnel port 139 so he could mount windows shares at home. Problem is that he could only mount 1 share at a time.
From the sounds of it this is the case.
With ssh tunneling it would be easeier to setup. Anyone could set up the tunnel. With ipsec it is required that one have sysadmin privs or have ipsec set up.
Key exchange is the real thing here. In ipsec keys are required (AFAIK). You can also set up racoon and have auto-exchanging keys. In ssh you have the option to setup keys to be required, but by default they are not. So ssh could be either an encrypted telnet session or it could be a key excehange encrypted session. I always opt for a key exchange session. Personally I go for the more secure the better. Just my parynoia though. It all depends on your level of required security and what you want to secure.
I also do not like the HTML that hangs my email program, essentially acting like a virsu and in some cases causing my email program to crash.
Know any good lawyers that want to file a class action GLOBAL lawsuit, to make spam against the law everywhere?
CA has a new don't call list, where's the don't spam list? I am so tired of spam, I think its time for a new email protocol that prevents unwanted email. My spam filters only catch about 75% of the spam coming in. I wish mozilla could do regular expressions in their email filter. I also wish I knew how their not in address book feature worked.
.. because it does not do https request or at least 7 did not.. which means no SSL and to login to my yahoo it seems they do a http to https to http redirect thing that does not work in amaya. There is no javescript support. While some people like this javascript is really useful and used on many pages. I can use lynx on my slow hardware and it can view my yahoo. I can save my yahoo and then view it in links-gui and it is much better (links gui supports javascript but sketchy https). On my faster hardware I use bloatzilla (mozilla) it has all the features I want in a browser and on my hardware doesn't do that bad. In fact I find it better than IE, cause mozilla has popup blocking && control so only sites I want to allow popups can. Cookie control is rocking. Form manager is useful, IMHO. I do most of my editing in a plain text editor like Jedir, Gel or nedit, or even vi.
... I'll just stay at home and stair at the wall ...
The title of this article had me confused, since I have been running a FreeBSD DHCP client for a while now. I guess they are talking about setting up DHCP servers, but still that's been around for a while to.
You can try mental exercises with the group. Have them start with solving 'fake' problems. Make up scenerios and then how you would solve the problems. Not really knowing what your company does it is hard to say exactly how to do that.
he got a 5050 or something and it didn't lasat 1 print job.. it was a dud ;-) rotflol.. seriously.. they are sending him a new one after actually making him do some test.. scary part was that one of the tests he had to be online and they tried to reset the printer remotely... true story folks.. big brother may know what you are printing
It also depends if you have a cd burner... since I have one I download the smallest cd iso for freebsd and do a very basic install and then add to that...
Hmm .. now that I think about it what about all those Linksys Netgear, dlink, etc devices that have built in NAT? Would it be against the law to sell or buy one of these devices? Lots of companies could be f*****, by stupid politicians if this is how this law is interpreted. I see this going to court.
my BSEE says I'm an engineer and I code... though I will say that many of the coders I have meet are monkeys... I'd say it is a 50 / 50 split.. anyone can code, but only a few can code really well...
"conceal from a communication service provider ... the existence or place of origin or destination of any communication" ... I asked earthlink if I could do this. They said yes, but they wont support it. For 9.95 THEY would set me up with NAT (http://www.earthlink.net/home/broadband/homenetwo rk/pricing/). If asked if I am doing this I'd say yes. I'm doing this to save IP address, but also to provide a firewall to my network of systems.
If they were to force me to pay the 9.95 for the service then I would require that they support my network. ALL of my network including my BSD and Linux machines. Also if ANY machine got attacked from a hacker or any machine got a virus I would then expect them to take care of this as well. I think I'd be able to make a good enough consumer case against ANY ISP that required me to pay for NAT.
Aside from that I am not 'hiding' anything. ALL machines are coming from my home. The cable box they gave me does NAT internally. I do NAT to their cable box. As far as they are concerned if I have 1 or 10 machines at home they are all 1) coming from my home; 2) coming from the IP address that thier cable modem assigned me.
I think the real juxt of the bill is to prevent IP spoofing. Like if you have a firewall that allows traffic from 207.19.12.3 to your IP and someone spoofs their IP to say that they are 207.19.12.3 to hack the network. Not seeing the actual text of the bills this is all speculative.
His argument "If you send or receive your email via an encrypted connection, you're in violation, because the "To" and "From" lines of the emails are concealed from your ISP by encryption. (The encryption conceals the destinations of outgoing messages, and the sources of incoming messages.)"
Is kinda flimsy. Part of SMTP is MAIL FROM and the other part is RCPT TO. You relly can't conceal this as most good SMTP systems are set up to only allow valid users to issue the MAIL FROM. Again in order to send mail through earthlink I need to be connected to their network through my DSL or a dial up. I've tried at work and it does not work, unless I use their web mail program.
It is good that he is informed and if these laws do apply to NAT then things like IPSEC, ssh / scp, and all encrypted telnet and sftp programs would also violate these laws.
Personally I see this as one of those laws that people make cause they are clueless about technology, and at some point they will go to court. Maybe in 5 years if any of them pass.
not an option when you have a system with a small drive...
time to update the system again...
Its times like this that I wish BSD's package management system allowed one to upgrade only part of the system without getting the source or doing an upgrade.... That is one thing I do like about linux's rpm. Its easeier to upgrade IMHO.
Oh well this way I get the latest build, who knows maybe they'll have wsmoused in it....