IANAL, but by voluntarily incurring the perjury statute in their communication, hasn't the BSA effectively signed themselves up as knowingly lying? I mean, they're the ones that brought up perjury, not us.
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So that's what he said! I was trying to figure out what anyone could possibly have said during Futurama that was bleepable.
Milk is indigestible due to people missing the right enzyme to digest lactose. Coca-Cola is mostly fructose and water, with a little acid; there's nothing in there that people have problems digesting.
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Sure, but at least that human editor can see that they're going against the existing indentation structure. With tabs it's easy to think that you're going along with the structure when really you're totally against it, just 'cause your tab stops are set differently.
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Wow, I misspelled a lot in that past post:)
Of course a tab isn't made of spaces; that's the whole problem. Three spaces displays as three spaces on any developer's machine and editor. One tab displays differently in every situation. Some people, not noticing that the previous author used tabs, space out their new code to the tab spacing that they see, making it incredibly irregular for the next person to edit.
If everyone uses tabs, uses the exact same indent style, and uses the same editor settings, then tabs are not too bad. In the real world, tabs are instruments of the devil, and source code should be indented with 2, three, or X spaces. A decent source editor will even replace tabs with the right amount of spaces, thus effectively solving your conundrum.
The last two should get money from the state that you ordered the item from, though, not from your state. That is, if I order a book delivered to IL from CA, the business development and education occurred in CA, and so CA should get to charge the tax for that, right?
For the first item, why don't they just tax delivery companies instead? That way UPS can pass the tax on to me, and I don't have to keep all these receipts.
Use tax is just the state governments weaseling into interstate commerce where they don't belong. I'm surprised no one's challenged it on those grounds yet.
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Do you have any more details on how they did it? I looked on the hardhats site but didn't see anything really about the process of the FOIA request. Was it a fight to get the software, or did the VA cave immediately? What are the implications for getting access to other government-operations software through FOIA?
Yeah, I know. But the initial incorrect mental image was so humorous I felt the need to share.
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I have. Try maintaining many times that mych code where half the people used tabs, the other half didn't, and all the tab users didn't actually agree on how many spaces mad up a tab anyway.
Sure we could re-indent everything, but that's going to make all of the diffs versus previous versions unreadable, which isn't good either.
Tabs are only if your text editor isn't smart enough to auto-fill a tab character with spaces.
That code's going to run a lot longer than 48 hours - you forgot the punch line about how long it took your friend to figure it out:)
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I'll agree with that - it used to be very hard to read online, with the stories split into many small ad-loading pages. The newer look is more like how Wired used to look - spare but high-tech. I don't know if maybe three stories in a week is too much, but I've enjoyed all of them so far.
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That's 'cause Siberia has been exported to approximately Joliet, IL. I've quit wishing for the Canadians to take their weather back; now I'm hoping the Russians will do it:)
You need the newest version of Internet Explorer or Netscape to "browse" the Web in style. The new Internet "browsers" are faster, safer, and include extras that bring the Web to life. Best of all, they're free, so get your new software in just 3 easy steps!
I dunno, "Caped Crusader". Couldn't you have "Alfred" whip up something on the "bat computer" that works without bringing the web "to life"? Frankly, you'd think a superhero such as yourself would have serious qualms about bringing something "to life" - isn't that usually villain territory? What do you have there that's so secret it won't work on my "browser"?
"Linux-related revenue" could just as easily be hardware running Linux or Linux support services, though. The reason that these revenues are occurring is that customers are seeing a short term switching expense that can reduce their long-term costs. In the long run I'm still not convinced that there's any significant money to be made in selling Linux the OS itself; the GPL and the Linux culture itself (among other things) has essentially commoditized everything that makes up the OS platform.
Not that this is a bad thing! This isn't your typical "no money in Linux" troll, and I'm in fact a huge Linux fan.
IMHO, it's good if you can't charge a lot for Linux; it means that the users of computer systems are spending less for them in general, leading to either improved profits or lower costs to their customers. Linux is good for those businesses, and it's good for those in Linux-related hardware and/or services businesses like IBM and Dell. Linux is good for programmers developing the 90% of software that's used in-house only; those developers now get a better platform to work on for cheap. But Linux may not be good for Linux-only (open source only?) businesses.
I think the historical record over the past three or four years bears me out on this. Wall Street is going to learn, or maybe has learned, to invest in companies that use Linux, and in companies that integrate something+Linux in order to make that something better, but not in companies that sell just Linux.
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IANAL, but by voluntarily incurring the perjury statute in their communication, hasn't the BSA effectively signed themselves up as knowingly lying? I mean, they're the ones that brought up perjury, not us.
So that's what he said! I was trying to figure out what anyone could possibly have said during Futurama that was bleepable.
...But it's the Hash of Hashes that'll really kill you :)
Bart: Well, we hit a little snag when the universe imploded, but Dad seemed cautiously optimistic.
Homer: CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!
In India I was known as the fifth Beatle!
Milk is indigestible due to people missing the right enzyme to digest lactose. Coca-Cola is mostly fructose and water, with a little acid; there's nothing in there that people have problems digesting.
Those wack invertebrates will sting you, old school!
"Hey Mrs. Doesn't Find Me Sexually Attractive Any More, I just tripled my productivity!"
"Dad, it's non-toxic!"
(Homer w/mouth full) "Well that's a plus".
Speaking of which:
It sucks! It sucks! It sucks!
Yes, Mr. Sherman, everything sucks.
I trust Microsoft with my housing exactly as much as their "Trusted Computing" initiative trusts me with my computer :)
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Sure, but at least that human editor can see that they're going against the existing indentation structure. With tabs it's easy to think that you're going along with the structure when really you're totally against it, just 'cause your tab stops are set differently.
Wow, I misspelled a lot in that past post :)
Of course a tab isn't made of spaces; that's the whole problem. Three spaces displays as three spaces on any developer's machine and editor. One tab displays differently in every situation. Some people, not noticing that the previous author used tabs, space out their new code to the tab spacing that they see, making it incredibly irregular for the next person to edit.
If everyone uses tabs, uses the exact same indent style, and uses the same editor settings, then tabs are not too bad. In the real world, tabs are instruments of the devil, and source code should be indented with 2, three, or X spaces. A decent source editor will even replace tabs with the right amount of spaces, thus effectively solving your conundrum.
The last two should get money from the state that you ordered the item from, though, not from your state. That is, if I order a book delivered to IL from CA, the business development and education occurred in CA, and so CA should get to charge the tax for that, right?
For the first item, why don't they just tax delivery companies instead? That way UPS can pass the tax on to me, and I don't have to keep all these receipts.
Use tax is just the state governments weaseling into interstate commerce where they don't belong. I'm surprised no one's challenged it on those grounds yet.
Do you have any more details on how they did it? I looked on the hardhats site but didn't see anything really about the process of the FOIA request. Was it a fight to get the software, or did the VA cave immediately? What are the implications for getting access to other government-operations software through FOIA?
Yeah, I know. But the initial incorrect mental image was so humorous I felt the need to share.
I have. Try maintaining many times that mych code where half the people used tabs, the other half didn't, and all the tab users didn't actually agree on how many spaces mad up a tab anyway.
Sure we could re-indent everything, but that's going to make all of the diffs versus previous versions unreadable, which isn't good either.
Tabs are only if your text editor isn't smart enough to auto-fill a tab character with spaces.
That code's going to run a lot longer than 48 hours - you forgot the punch line about how long it took your friend to figure it out :)
I'll agree with that - it used to be very hard to read online, with the stories split into many small ad-loading pages. The newer look is more like how Wired used to look - spare but high-tech. I don't know if maybe three stories in a week is too much, but I've enjoyed all of them so far.
Tabs are evil. That is all.
Showoff :)
Oh yeah, and for that reason too. I feel stupid that I didn't notice that first off :)
That's 'cause Siberia has been exported to approximately Joliet, IL. I've quit wishing for the Canadians to take their weather back; now I'm hoping the Russians will do it :)
I dunno, "Caped Crusader". Couldn't you have "Alfred" whip up something on the "bat computer" that works without bringing the web "to life"? Frankly, you'd think a superhero such as yourself would have serious qualms about bringing something "to life" - isn't that usually villain territory? What do you have there that's so secret it won't work on my "browser"?
"Linux-related revenue" could just as easily be hardware running Linux or Linux support services, though. The reason that these revenues are occurring is that customers are seeing a short term switching expense that can reduce their long-term costs. In the long run I'm still not convinced that there's any significant money to be made in selling Linux the OS itself; the GPL and the Linux culture itself (among other things) has essentially commoditized everything that makes up the OS platform.
Not that this is a bad thing! This isn't your typical "no money in Linux" troll, and I'm in fact a huge Linux fan.
IMHO, it's good if you can't charge a lot for Linux; it means that the users of computer systems are spending less for them in general, leading to either improved profits or lower costs to their customers. Linux is good for those businesses, and it's good for those in Linux-related hardware and/or services businesses like IBM and Dell. Linux is good for programmers developing the 90% of software that's used in-house only; those developers now get a better platform to work on for cheap. But Linux may not be good for Linux-only (open source only?) businesses.
I think the historical record over the past three or four years bears me out on this. Wall Street is going to learn, or maybe has learned, to invest in companies that use Linux, and in companies that integrate something+Linux in order to make that something better, but not in companies that sell just Linux.