This was not your standard grammar flame. If someone doesn't know what the DR-DOS case was really about, or even what the actual product was (Digital Research's flavor of DOS, not "Doctor DOS" - that sounds like a Norton utility or something), they lose a lot of credibility as far as their opinions on Microsoft, etc. If you sound like you don't know what you're talking about, people tend to not believe you. Few people will bother to point out, as I have done, why they don't believe you, but they won't.
I'm pointing out the facts in an effort to make the original poster sound more smart, not myself.
And no, I don't even complain about the myriad misuses of you/your/youre/you're any more; reading/. has permanently blunted my grammar spidey-sense in that regard.
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It will be nice to see a whole slew of new consumer-friendly products from Microsoft now - after all, they're entirely free to "innovate" now. I wonder how many other markets they'll get to consume before the government comes to its senses? If Microsoft is allowed to use the capital amassed from its past crimes to stroll into new markets, almost no industry in the U.S. is safe. It's just a question of "Where does Microsoft want to go today?"
This really was Judge Jackson's case to lose, though - I'm as pissed of about Microsoft as anyone, but you'd think a federal judge would have the sense to keep his mouth shut about his personal opinions of the defendant, and follow the legal procedures entirely by the book. This was only the biggest trial of the decade or so. More than anything, this appeal overturns his handling of the trial rather than the facts of the matter or Microsoft's guilt.
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Gates (of project Blue Book): It's just swamp gas, no crash here folks. Or the planet Venus. Yeah, Venus, that's it! The glare of Venus made your screen look all washed-out and blue and stuff. Right.
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Even better than Kazaa is Morpheus (www.musiccity.com),...
Yes, because www.morpheus.com would have been so much more difficult to remember. On the other hand, maybe I should be happy any time a chance to fill up the 'net namespace is missed. I know I cheer inside everytime I see www.sony.com/somemovie rather than www.somemovie.com.
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According to this story at news.com, this is to comply with RIAA-imposed filtering criteria. They aren't even going to allow older versions of their Napster client, so you know other peoples' are out the door.
Favorite quote: "
This means songs that aren't on the record companies' list will have to trickle back into circulation a little at a
time as Napster ascertains that they are or aren't on the must-block list." So essentially the RIAA has won the real war here - everything not from the RIAA has been removed and presumed guilty until proven innocent. Maybe Napster was a great exposure space for indie musicians before (personally, I doubt it) but it sure isn't now.
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Ah, that's the funny part. I live in suburban Cook County, IL, which probably has some of the largest preserved tracts of forest land of any similar urban/suburban area. We have plenty of forests, fields, and ponds for them to live in; they prefer the pond behind the main office or corporate office parks instead.
I agree, they were here first, and we have screwed up their ecosystem pretty well. First they were hunted almost to extinction, and now there's essentially no hunting of them (protected under the Endangered Species Act IIRC), and really no natural predators left in the area. And apparently they like well-mowed lawns and suburban living as much as anyone - it's practically a plague of geese whenever you go outside.
Oh well, at least I would have eaten OK if Y2K had happened after all. They're mean, but they're fat and dumb too:)
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Hey, I'd root for the Mom 'n Pop making chips in the garage, except there really aren't any. Without that alternative, it's better in business to always root for the underdog. Competition ultimately leads to better products for everyone.
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That should be it's own/. article - great post! Fortune has had a number of good articles on the legal and financial background of technology issues lately; maybe I should read it more often.
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I think the whole "corporate email package" thing is overrated - my company uses Netscape as well as Outlook; Netscape works the same on Linux. Dealing with customer MS Office files is a problem I'll admit - I can only hope that StarOffice can conquer that barrier.
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Yup, writing software and delivering pizzas will be what we're all about. And considering the car that Hiro Protagonist gets, I think I'd rather deliver pizza.
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Should I be worried that f*ckedcompany is blocked as an "inappropriate use of resources" from my job? I wonder if there's something up there about my company that we aren't supposed to know about:)
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It seems like you'd be a lot more likely to make it in the hardware market, rather than selling ads on/. and SourceForge Onsite. At least you can charge money for hardware.
Is this because Penguin Computing drove VA under, or are traditional PC manufacturers like Dell turning the screws? I was planning to buy a nice VA workstation/light server sometime in the next couple months, so I'm disappointed to see that I won't be able to.
I'm amazed that any company would voluntarily leave the market that made it the most money. There's got to be more to the story...isn't there?
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Now if only some hunters would take out those @#$!# Canada geese that crap all over the place at my apartment complex. Apparently they're federally protected, so golf courses around here have taken to hiring dogs to scare the geese away rather than hunting them. Where I live, they've even eaten the grass all the way down to the dirt, and every year they pop out another crop of goslings.
I've heard that geese like wide-open lawns, so maybe my landlord could get rid of them with some hedges. Hopefully I'm moving soon; my landlord hasn't tried anything useful in the last few years.
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Wait, I thought MSDN documentation was really excellent, why would you need to see under the covers? Either Microsoft has these really well-documented API with no surprises, or else you do need their source to figure out what's going on. You MS defenders can't have it both ways, you know.
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I found it interesting that it clears the logs - shouldn't such a big, expensive piece of HW have at least some non-volatile storage? Minimum it should log to a separate box that does have a disk drive, since I could see how incremental logging to flash parts might have some issues.
While I'm at it, this article seemed pretty slim on the details about the mystery woman. It didn't sound like anyone quit, in fact. I expect the full details on the story...
...about as soon as I get the full story on my URL above. In other words, I'm not holding my breath:)
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If the GPL is "Share and Enjoy", wouldn't shared source be more like "Go stick your head in a pig"? Microsoft is providing a substance almost, but not entirely, quite unlike open source:)
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Microsoft's business is making money selling bits of software. Freely available software is probably bad for this narrowly-defined business.
But most companies don't sell software, they sell hardware or services that use software. If those companies can make use of low cost freely available software in their products, it will increase their profits rather than decreasing them.
There will always be a place for proprietary software in areas where there isn't enough interest to develop a suitable free alternative. But I think we're about to see the end of a market where proprietary software is all that people will consider for their business needs.
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This was not your standard grammar flame. If someone doesn't know what the DR-DOS case was really about, or even what the actual product was (Digital Research's flavor of DOS, not "Doctor DOS" - that sounds like a Norton utility or something), they lose a lot of credibility as far as their opinions on Microsoft, etc. If you sound like you don't know what you're talking about, people tend to not believe you. Few people will bother to point out, as I have done, why they don't believe you, but they won't.
I'm pointing out the facts in an effort to make the original poster sound more smart, not myself. And no, I don't even complain about the myriad misuses of you/your/youre/you're any more; reading /. has permanently blunted my grammar spidey-sense in that regard.
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Um, that's "DR-DOS" or "DRDOS", not "Doctor DOS" or "Dr. DOS". DR is an acronym, not an abbreviation.
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It will be nice to see a whole slew of new consumer-friendly products from Microsoft now - after all, they're entirely free to "innovate" now. I wonder how many other markets they'll get to consume before the government comes to its senses? If Microsoft is allowed to use the capital amassed from its past crimes to stroll into new markets, almost no industry in the U.S. is safe. It's just a question of "Where does Microsoft want to go today?"
This really was Judge Jackson's case to lose, though - I'm as pissed of about Microsoft as anyone, but you'd think a federal judge would have the sense to keep his mouth shut about his personal opinions of the defendant, and follow the legal procedures entirely by the book. This was only the biggest trial of the decade or so. More than anything, this appeal overturns his handling of the trial rather than the facts of the matter or Microsoft's guilt.
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I have to ask: are the space brothers always getting oppressed by the [deep breath] Pigs...In...Space...?
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Gates (of project Blue Book): It's just swamp gas, no crash here folks. Or the planet Venus. Yeah, Venus, that's it! The glare of Venus made your screen look all washed-out and blue and stuff. Right.
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Yes, because www.morpheus.com would have been so much more difficult to remember. On the other hand, maybe I should be happy any time a chance to fill up the 'net namespace is missed. I know I cheer inside everytime I see www.sony.com/somemovie rather than www.somemovie.com.
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According to this story at news.com, this is to comply with RIAA-imposed filtering criteria. They aren't even going to allow older versions of their Napster client, so you know other peoples' are out the door.
Favorite quote: " This means songs that aren't on the record companies' list will have to trickle back into circulation a little at a time as Napster ascertains that they are or aren't on the must-block list." So essentially the RIAA has won the real war here - everything not from the RIAA has been removed and presumed guilty until proven innocent. Maybe Napster was a great exposure space for indie musicians before (personally, I doubt it) but it sure isn't now.
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Ah, that's the funny part. I live in suburban Cook County, IL, which probably has some of the largest preserved tracts of forest land of any similar urban/suburban area. We have plenty of forests, fields, and ponds for them to live in; they prefer the pond behind the main office or corporate office parks instead.
I agree, they were here first, and we have screwed up their ecosystem pretty well. First they were hunted almost to extinction, and now there's essentially no hunting of them (protected under the Endangered Species Act IIRC), and really no natural predators left in the area. And apparently they like well-mowed lawns and suburban living as much as anyone - it's practically a plague of geese whenever you go outside.
Oh well, at least I would have eaten OK if Y2K had happened after all. They're mean, but they're fat and dumb too :)
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Hey, I'd root for the Mom 'n Pop making chips in the garage, except there really aren't any. Without that alternative, it's better in business to always root for the underdog. Competition ultimately leads to better products for everyone.
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That should be it's own /. article - great post! Fortune has had a number of good articles on the legal and financial background of technology issues lately; maybe I should read it more often.
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I think the whole "corporate email package" thing is overrated - my company uses Netscape as well as Outlook; Netscape works the same on Linux. Dealing with customer MS Office files is a problem I'll admit - I can only hope that StarOffice can conquer that barrier.
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As seen on the NewsForge article:
OSDN: Our Staff Destroys Networks
Well, I thought it was funny at least...
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Yup, writing software and delivering pizzas will be what we're all about. And considering the car that Hiro Protagonist gets, I think I'd rather deliver pizza.
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Should I be worried that f*ckedcompany is blocked as an "inappropriate use of resources" from my job? I wonder if there's something up there about my company that we aren't supposed to know about :)
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It seems like you'd be a lot more likely to make it in the hardware market, rather than selling ads on /. and SourceForge Onsite. At least you can charge money for hardware.
Is this because Penguin Computing drove VA under, or are traditional PC manufacturers like Dell turning the screws? I was planning to buy a nice VA workstation/light server sometime in the next couple months, so I'm disappointed to see that I won't be able to.
I'm amazed that any company would voluntarily leave the market that made it the most money. There's got to be more to the story...isn't there?
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[from the bottom of the linked page] This title is also available as an e-book.
Kind of ironic, don't you think?
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Now if only some hunters would take out those @#$!# Canada geese that crap all over the place at my apartment complex. Apparently they're federally protected, so golf courses around here have taken to hiring dogs to scare the geese away rather than hunting them. Where I live, they've even eaten the grass all the way down to the dirt, and every year they pop out another crop of goslings.
I've heard that geese like wide-open lawns, so maybe my landlord could get rid of them with some hedges. Hopefully I'm moving soon; my landlord hasn't tried anything useful in the last few years.
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Wait, I thought MSDN documentation was really excellent, why would you need to see under the covers? Either Microsoft has these really well-documented API with no surprises, or else you do need their source to figure out what's going on. You MS defenders can't have it both ways, you know.
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For those of us who aren't netops, it was an interesting read. If it bugs you so much, just don't read the article!
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I found it interesting that it clears the logs - shouldn't such a big, expensive piece of HW have at least some non-volatile storage? Minimum it should log to a separate box that does have a disk drive, since I could see how incremental logging to flash parts might have some issues.
While I'm at it, this article seemed pretty slim on the details about the mystery woman. It didn't sound like anyone quit, in fact. I expect the full details on the story...
...about as soon as I get the full story on my URL above. In other words, I'm not holding my breath :)
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If the GPL is "Share and Enjoy", wouldn't shared source be more like "Go stick your head in a pig"? Microsoft is providing a substance almost, but not entirely, quite unlike open source :)
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Well, for one thing, I'm pretty sure Gail Wynand was from NYC, or at least Jersey.
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Just out of curiosity, why? Hasn't Emacs always been open source? Or were you paying to get a compiler license to build Emacs?
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Microsoft's business is making money selling bits of software. Freely available software is probably bad for this narrowly-defined business.
But most companies don't sell software, they sell hardware or services that use software. If those companies can make use of low cost freely available software in their products, it will increase their profits rather than decreasing them.
There will always be a place for proprietary software in areas where there isn't enough interest to develop a suitable free alternative. But I think we're about to see the end of a market where proprietary software is all that people will consider for their business needs.
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