The one feature that Firebird is lacking that keeps me from using it as my primary browser is the lack of support for certificates. I have several websites that I support at work where I must use certificates because the websites are set up to both require user certs and perform checking of a CRL.
I can still use the full Mozilla for this as it has the ability to import certificates, but I've yet to be able to locate a method for doing this in Phoenix/Firebird.
If someone out there knows how it might be done, I'd appreciate either a reply here or a mail to [z e u g m a at p o b o x dot c o m]
Thanks for the clarification(s). I should read up on the current theories of planetary formation. The problem, from what I understand, is the theories don't explain how you can get the massive planets we've 'resolved' around distant stars that orbit considerably closer (less than the orbit of Mercury) than the gas giants in our solar system do. I'd not be suprised if the reason they are finding so many of these types of planets so close to their respective stars is largely determined by the methods we use to infer (deduce? induce? their existance.
It makes me think we may be missing something in our standard model. Then again, it's entirely likely (probable) that I'm just not up on what is considered 'current' in the field.
Where's it coming from?
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From the article:Observations indicate that Neptune experiences some very extreme of weather conditions. The planet's average surface temperature is thought to be about -218 C, with storm winds of up to 1500 kilometres per hour.
One would think that so far from the sun, the energy recieved by Neptune would be fairly feeble. What is driving winds like that? I would have to guess it is core temperature. I've often heard of Jupiter referred to as a 'failed star'. I'm not exactly sure how accurate that is, but from what I've read about our guesses of the planet's internal dynamics, it's a moderately accurate portrayal. (I believe it even emits more light than it reflects from Sol. I've never heard the description applied to Uranus or Neptune, but I wonder if it would accurately be said of all the gas giants. Comments anyone?
I also think that it's interesting to consider that given the really long orbital periods of the outer 3 planets, we've not really been able to observe much of the changing conditions (i.e. seasons) one would normally associate with the variations that occur over the period of a complete orbit.
You might want to look a little closer at what happened in the U.S. Supreme Court. The actual vote was more like 7 of 9 that the FL. Sup. Court erred in its rulings.
Schoolhouse Rock is available on DVD now. It brought back a lot of memories for me when I bought it.
I liked WB cartoons best on Sat. morning. Bugs & RR just about always worked for me, though much of even their stuff really degenerated into absolute dreck for a while when some bunch of moronic moms started yelling about 'violence' in cartoons, and we ended up with a bunch of toons where everything was some type of contrived competition or something similar.
Saturday mornings were great, but my favorite rememberance of cartoons was when I was older and went to "Yes" concert in Dallas. The opening band didn't show, so instead of just doing nothing they showed Bugs and RoadRunner cartoons. Having 20k or so fans literally ROTFLTAO really enhances the experience, as did the generally 'chemically enhanced' atmosphere.:-)
Are you stupid?
nope...I'm not American to begin with
My apologies. Guess I needed a rant, and you were a good target. I'm with you on the shift in brazeness that has occurred on Bush's watch. Clinton took it as far towards Big Brother as he could from the 'left' POV, now it's time for a little of the same from the 'right'. I expect another 4 years. I can only hope that things get so bad people finally understand what is going on, and string them all up from lampposts on nice high-quality hemp ropes.
I too migrated from HomeSite to Quanta and have really liked the clean interface and the way it generally works. One of the things I like best is that it is pretty customizable, so I was able to set up some of the default keybindings to some of the ones I really used a lot in HomeSite and have become accustomed to. The customizability (is that a word?) of the application is a strong point.
After reading the article, I figured I'd try downloading the CVS version and see if I could compile it so I could give their more recent work a try and maybe do bug reports and whatnot which is about all I can do besides docs as I'm not a programmer... well, I managed to get it from CVS (fairly straightforward). The./configure seemed to run cleanly, then it died early in the make...
[quanta]$ make
cd . && autoconf
aclocal.m4:1593: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion
autoconf/functions.m4:1053: AM_FUNC_OBSTACK is expanded from...
aclocal.m4:1593: the top level
make: *** [configure] Error 1
[quanta]
Can anyone out there tell me what this means? Bad CC version? Bad configure script? Or am I missing some KDE developer packages I need to compile this?
it is truly sad what is going on in the US, the US was an example of freedom, democracy until governor Dubya arrived to the whitehouse, go ahead blame it on 911
Are you stupid? Do you really think that the entire apparatus of the U.S. government magically metamorphed into a evil menace just because GWB became president? Where were you when Freeh was trying to ram Clipper down our throats? Have you no sense of history? The government has been pretty much out of control for most of the last century. They are incrementally increasing the heat just like they have been for decades.
Clinton was no more friend of liberty or privacy except where it affected executive priviledge and perogatives than Bush is. You are just noticing it now because someone you don't like is in "control". We've been doomed as a republic since 1913. If you just blame Bush and the republicans, you are missing at least half the picture.
Isn't our privacy guaranteed within the constitution
There must be 200,000 copies of the Constitution on the internet. Google can show the way. Search it using your browser. You will find the word "guarantee" used once.
From Article 4 Section 4: "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government;"
Another interesting search to make is "democracy", and all the various uses of that word. Have fun!
The first thing I thought when I saw this article was, "sounds like this guy has discovered fractals". What he's describing would appear (from the limited information provided) to be a fractal equation. It will be interesting to see how easily it is incorporated into Fractint. Fractint currently has about 70 or so different types of fractals that you can tweak, play with, and zoom into to your heart's content.
There is a lot of cool art on the fractint homepage as well as come descriptive information about fractint and the history of the program, which is currently on version 20.0. I've been playing with the program off and on for about 8 years I guess, and think it is the best fractal generator out there.
For those of you not running DOS, try XFractint. The program has a funky install (imo) but works.
What appears to be 'news' about the discovery mentioned above is that the equation is supposed to generate pictures related to 'natural' shapes. I don't really see it so much as being news, as many have noticed that most natural objects have a fractal dimension to them. Trees are the most obvious example. One of the fractals that Fractint will generate is a cool picture of a fern leaf. If you choose type=ifs, and fern for the IFS subtype, you should be able to display it.
Someday, someone is going to find the correct fractal equation for the universe itself. It will probably be about 50 or so characters long. The physicists(sp?) of the world will look at that, then at the huge volumes they use to attempt to describe quantum mechanics, and say "Doh!"
Actually, Google has had competition all along. It's just that more people prefer Google as compared to its competitors. Google obviously has the major mindshare today, (see pop references for 'googling someone/something'), but others have had this in the past. I used Altavista for some time as it appeared to give better results for the types of searching I was doing. Then it's DB appeared to get rather stale, with far too many dead links and other problems, so I switched to something else.
If the fine folks at Google let their service go into the crapper, I'll look elsewhere for a better product. I still use Babelfish occasionally, which is an altavista service. (above link located by Google, searching "babelfish" and "I'm feeling lucky"). How's that for relavance?
Too right. One of the best resources of historical usage is the Oxford English Dictionary. The OED has a Word of the Day page. Somtimes reading through the history of the usage of a word is fascinating.
The WOTD is "Buttered". (For those of you reading this on 4.3.2003
I like phoenix as well, but I have a big need for certificates, and there doesn't appear to be a way to get user certificates to work in it. Does anyone have hints for this?
I remember waiting over 60 hours for a single screen to draw on some of the deep zooms of the Mandlebrot set when I was running a SOTA 33 Mhz 386. Timothy Leary would not have survived the 60s if he'd had a copy of Fractint and something to run it on at the time:-)
I've been whitelist filtering for a while, and I can definitely say that it has made my inbox a lot easier to deal with, as I pretty much know that anyone who is a positive hit on my filter is someone that I want to correspond with.
One interesting side-effect, is that now that I've built my list of people who don't get automatically get dumped to a spam box, I hav efound that I communicate with a lot more people on email than I thought. I'm also on more mailing lists than I realized initially.
Another is that I've had significant delays in replying to a family member because she hadn't been added to my list, and her message sat in 'spam' until I had the time to do a quick scan and delete of the folder.
Before I finally settled on the side of whitehat filtering, I tried a lot of different filters and such. I find that for the way I do mail, it definitely is a major time-saver.
./primer.pl
Number found where operator expected at./primer.pl line 7, near "] 1"
(Missing operator before 1?)
Number found where operator expected at./primer.pl line 28, near ") 8193"
(Missing operator before 8193?)
syntax error at./primer.pl line 7, near "] 1"
syntax error at./primer.pl line 28, near ") 8193"
Execution of./primer.pl aborted due to compilation errors.
Along the same lines, I always make sure the folx store any kind of magnetic media well out of reach of vacuum cleaners. You'd be amazed at the power of some of the electrical fields they can generate. (Especially older ones).
Re:Family Tree Tech support: Wood for the fire....
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I have come to the point that I no longer support family computers unless they run linux. I just say "sorry, I don't do windows anymore". If you'd like for me to install redhat, I can do that.
it's amazing how little damage someone can do to a computer that they don't have root access to.
The aforementioned Canadian collective has yet to distribute to its members even one tax dollar of the tens of millions it inexplicably hoards.
I fuond this to be extremely interesting. Does anyone out there have more details on this? How can this "Canadian Private Copying Collective" get away with collecting millions of tax dollars and then not distribute it as was obviously intended? Sounds like a great scam to get in on! Imagine, the entire federal apparatus that exists to enforce the collections of millions of dollars for you to roll around in at your leisure!
Much of htat money is probably funnelled back to favored politicians to keep the legislation and tax dollars rolling in.
What a system! I wouldn't be suprised at all if the same were true of the organizations that get the taxes colelcted on dat, audiotape and CD-audio disks.
I'm of the opinion that it is almost criminal these days for a system to not run a quick test against passwords as the user chooses it. This is the case on most, if not all linux systems I use, and many others as well.
The problem is, that many users have a large number of systems they must access, and can't be bothered to choose decent ones for each systems, and can't be bothered to change them at any regular interval once they've been set. Password aging is a pretty basic security concept that is rarely implemented.
I always reccommend the use of passwords that are not words, but are pronouncable by the user. Many years ago, when I went to work for MCI, we were assigned MCIMail accounts. When you would initially log in, it would prompt you to change your password. Rather than just let you type in any old thing, it would give you 3 choices like this.
puwacane
solahota
yamatotu
You had the option of choosing one of the three listed, or could roll the dice for another three more to your liking. I kinda liked it.
These days, there are a number of programs that will do this for you quick and easily. I'm sure most of you are aware of 'gpw', which will generate passwords similar to those listed above. I've seen many variations of the program, and in fact currently use a perl-based one on my Solaris boxes when it's time to change passwords.
I mentioned earlier that people have many different passwords to remember. This, as well as the problem of multiple usernames are a major problem for many users. Fortunately, there are software solutions for this as well. For Linux users, I like 'gpasman', which is a small program that will keep track of usernames/passwords for you that is itself protected with a password/passphrase (use a darn good one!). Windows users may find '
password safe' to be a good choice.
Both of the above programs have enabeled me to have excellent passwords everywhere. Password Safe will even generate extremely strong passwords for you.
I guess my point, if there really is one, is that some of the pain of passwords can be alleviated to some degree by good technology. I wish more people took more care in their choice of passwords. Given the results reported elsewhere on this page, they don't seem to.
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The one feature that Firebird is lacking that keeps me from using it as my primary browser is the lack of support for certificates. I have several websites that I support at work where I must use certificates because the websites are set up to both require user certs and perform checking of a CRL.
I can still use the full Mozilla for this as it has the ability to import certificates, but I've yet to be able to locate a method for doing this in Phoenix/Firebird.
If someone out there knows how it might be done, I'd appreciate either a reply here or a mail to [z e u g m a at p o b o x dot c o m]
Thanks for the clarification(s). I should read up on the current theories of planetary formation. The problem, from what I understand, is the theories don't explain how you can get the massive planets we've 'resolved' around distant stars that orbit considerably closer (less than the orbit of Mercury) than the gas giants in our solar system do. I'd not be suprised if the reason they are finding so many of these types of planets so close to their respective stars is largely determined by the methods we use to infer (deduce? induce? their existance.
It makes me think we may be missing something in our standard model. Then again, it's entirely likely (probable) that I'm just not up on what is considered 'current' in the field.
From the article:Observations indicate that Neptune experiences some very extreme of weather conditions. The planet's average surface temperature is thought to be about -218 C, with storm winds of up to 1500 kilometres per hour.
One would think that so far from the sun, the energy recieved by Neptune would be fairly feeble. What is driving winds like that? I would have to guess it is core temperature. I've often heard of Jupiter referred to as a 'failed star'. I'm not exactly sure how accurate that is, but from what I've read about our guesses of the planet's internal dynamics, it's a moderately accurate portrayal. (I believe it even emits more light than it reflects from Sol. I've never heard the description applied to Uranus or Neptune, but I wonder if it would accurately be said of all the gas giants. Comments anyone?
I also think that it's interesting to consider that given the really long orbital periods of the outer 3 planets, we've not really been able to observe much of the changing conditions (i.e. seasons) one would normally associate with the variations that occur over the period of a complete orbit.
You might want to look a little closer at what happened in the U.S. Supreme Court. The actual vote was more like 7 of 9 that the FL. Sup. Court erred in its rulings.
Schoolhouse Rock is available on DVD now. It brought back a lot of memories for me when I bought it.
I liked WB cartoons best on Sat. morning. Bugs & RR just about always worked for me, though much of even their stuff really degenerated into absolute dreck for a while when some bunch of moronic moms started yelling about 'violence' in cartoons, and we ended up with a bunch of toons where everything was some type of contrived competition or something similar.
Saturday mornings were great, but my favorite rememberance of cartoons was when I was older and went to "Yes" concert in Dallas. The opening band didn't show, so instead of just doing nothing they showed Bugs and RoadRunner cartoons. Having 20k or so fans literally ROTFLTAO really enhances the experience, as did the generally 'chemically enhanced' atmosphere. :-)
I have to agree. I figure by the time they really need it, they'll have tons of IP6 addresses to make use of.
Never mind. I killed the cache and it bombed out telling me that the KDE headers can't be located. Looks like something I'll work on tomorrow.
Are you stupid?
nope...I'm not American to begin with
My apologies. Guess I needed a rant, and you were a good target. I'm with you on the shift in brazeness that has occurred on Bush's watch. Clinton took it as far towards Big Brother as he could from the 'left' POV, now it's time for a little of the same from the 'right'. I expect another 4 years. I can only hope that things get so bad people finally understand what is going on, and string them all up from lampposts on nice high-quality hemp ropes.
I too migrated from HomeSite to Quanta and have really liked the clean interface and the way it generally works. One of the things I like best is that it is pretty customizable, so I was able to set up some of the default keybindings to some of the ones I really used a lot in HomeSite and have become accustomed to. The customizability (is that a word?) of the application is a strong point.
After reading the article, I figured I'd try downloading the CVS version and see if I could compile it so I could give their more recent work a try and maybe do bug reports and whatnot which is about all I can do besides docs as I'm not a programmer... well, I managed to get it from CVS (fairly straightforward). The ./configure seemed to run cleanly, then it died early in the make...
[quanta]$ make
cd . && autoconf
aclocal.m4:1593: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion
autoconf/functions.m4:1053: AM_FUNC_OBSTACK is expanded from...
aclocal.m4:1593: the top level
make: *** [configure] Error 1
[quanta]
Can anyone out there tell me what this means? Bad CC version? Bad configure script? Or am I missing some KDE developer packages I need to compile this?
it is truly sad what is going on in the US, the US was an example of freedom, democracy until governor Dubya arrived to the whitehouse, go ahead blame it on 911
Are you stupid? Do you really think that the entire apparatus of the U.S. government magically metamorphed into a evil menace just because GWB became president? Where were you when Freeh was trying to ram Clipper down our throats? Have you no sense of history? The government has been pretty much out of control for most of the last century. They are incrementally increasing the heat just like they have been for decades.
Clinton was no more friend of liberty or privacy except where it affected executive priviledge and perogatives than Bush is. You are just noticing it now because someone you don't like is in "control". We've been doomed as a republic since 1913. If you just blame Bush and the republicans, you are missing at least half the picture.
Isn't our privacy guaranteed within the constitution
There must be 200,000 copies of the Constitution on the internet. Google can show the way. Search it using your browser. You will find the word "guarantee" used once.
From Article 4 Section 4: "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government;"
Another interesting search to make is "democracy", and all the various uses of that word. Have fun!
I think the word you are looking for is "sarcasm". ;-)
The first thing I thought when I saw this article was, "sounds like this guy has discovered fractals". What he's describing would appear (from the limited information provided) to be a fractal equation. It will be interesting to see how easily it is incorporated into Fractint. Fractint currently has about 70 or so different types of fractals that you can tweak, play with, and zoom into to your heart's content.
There is a lot of cool art on the fractint homepage as well as come descriptive information about fractint and the history of the program, which is currently on version 20.0. I've been playing with the program off and on for about 8 years I guess, and think it is the best fractal generator out there.
For those of you not running DOS, try XFractint. The program has a funky install (imo) but works.
What appears to be 'news' about the discovery mentioned above is that the equation is supposed to generate pictures related to 'natural' shapes. I don't really see it so much as being news, as many have noticed that most natural objects have a fractal dimension to them. Trees are the most obvious example. One of the fractals that Fractint will generate is a cool picture of a fern leaf. If you choose type=ifs, and fern for the IFS subtype, you should be able to display it.
Someday, someone is going to find the correct fractal equation for the universe itself. It will probably be about 50 or so characters long. The physicists(sp?) of the world will look at that, then at the huge volumes they use to attempt to describe quantum mechanics, and say "Doh!"
Actually, Google has had competition all along. It's just that more people prefer Google as compared to its competitors. Google obviously has the major mindshare today, (see pop references for 'googling someone/something'), but others have had this in the past. I used Altavista for some time as it appeared to give better results for the types of searching I was doing. Then it's DB appeared to get rather stale, with far too many dead links and other problems, so I switched to something else.
If the fine folks at Google let their service go into the crapper, I'll look elsewhere for a better product. I still use Babelfish occasionally, which is an altavista service. (above link located by Google, searching "babelfish" and "I'm feeling lucky"). How's that for relavance?
Too right. One of the best resources of historical usage is the Oxford English Dictionary. The OED has a Word of the Day page. Somtimes reading through the history of the usage of a word is fascinating.
The WOTD is "Buttered". (For those of you reading this on 4.3.2003
I like phoenix as well, but I have a big need for certificates, and there doesn't appear to be a way to get user certificates to work in it. Does anyone have hints for this?
I'd be interested in knowing if anyone has attempted to plot this as a fractal?
BTW: there is a linux version of Fractint available. WooHoo!
I remember waiting over 60 hours for a single screen to draw on some of the deep zooms of the Mandlebrot set when I was running a SOTA 33 Mhz 386. Timothy Leary would not have survived the 60s if he'd had a copy of Fractint and something to run it on at the time :-)
I'd be interested in seeing how you do this. Do you have the code for it posted anywhere.
I've been whitelist filtering for a while, and I can definitely say that it has made my inbox a lot easier to deal with, as I pretty much know that anyone who is a positive hit on my filter is someone that I want to correspond with.
One interesting side-effect, is that now that I've built my list of people who don't get automatically get dumped to a spam box, I hav efound that I communicate with a lot more people on email than I thought. I'm also on more mailing lists than I realized initially.
Another is that I've had significant delays in replying to a family member because she hadn't been added to my list, and her message sat in 'spam' until I had the time to do a quick scan and delete of the folder.
Before I finally settled on the side of whitehat filtering, I tried a lot of different filters and such. I find that for the way I do mail, it definitely is a major time-saver.
results of your script:
Sorry :-)
Funny.
Along the same lines, I always make sure the folx store any kind of magnetic media well out of reach of vacuum cleaners. You'd be amazed at the power of some of the electrical fields they can generate. (Especially older ones).
I have come to the point that I no longer support family computers unless they run linux. I just say "sorry, I don't do windows anymore". If you'd like for me to install redhat, I can do that.
it's amazing how little damage someone can do to a computer that they don't have root access to.
The aforementioned Canadian collective has yet to distribute to its members even one tax dollar of the tens of millions it inexplicably hoards.
I fuond this to be extremely interesting. Does anyone out there have more details on this? How can this "Canadian Private Copying Collective" get away with collecting millions of tax dollars and then not distribute it as was obviously intended? Sounds like a great scam to get in on! Imagine, the entire federal apparatus that exists to enforce the collections of millions of dollars for you to roll around in at your leisure!
Much of htat money is probably funnelled back to favored politicians to keep the legislation and tax dollars rolling in.
What a system! I wouldn't be suprised at all if the same were true of the organizations that get the taxes colelcted on dat, audiotape and CD-audio disks.
I'm of the opinion that it is almost criminal these days for a system to not run a quick test against passwords as the user chooses it. This is the case on most, if not all linux systems I use, and many others as well.
The problem is, that many users have a large number of systems they must access, and can't be bothered to choose decent ones for each systems, and can't be bothered to change them at any regular interval once they've been set. Password aging is a pretty basic security concept that is rarely implemented.
I always reccommend the use of passwords that are not words, but are pronouncable by the user. Many years ago, when I went to work for MCI, we were assigned MCIMail accounts. When you would initially log in, it would prompt you to change your password. Rather than just let you type in any old thing, it would give you 3 choices like this.
You had the option of choosing one of the three listed, or could roll the dice for another three more to your liking. I kinda liked it.
These days, there are a number of programs that will do this for you quick and easily. I'm sure most of you are aware of 'gpw', which will generate passwords similar to those listed above. I've seen many variations of the program, and in fact currently use a perl-based one on my Solaris boxes when it's time to change passwords.
I mentioned earlier that people have many different passwords to remember. This, as well as the problem of multiple usernames are a major problem for many users. Fortunately, there are software solutions for this as well. For Linux users, I like 'gpasman', which is a small program that will keep track of usernames/passwords for you that is itself protected with a password/passphrase (use a darn good one!). Windows users may find ' password safe' to be a good choice.
Both of the above programs have enabeled me to have excellent passwords everywhere. Password Safe will even generate extremely strong passwords for you.
I guess my point, if there really is one, is that some of the pain of passwords can be alleviated to some degree by good technology. I wish more people took more care in their choice of passwords. Given the results reported elsewhere on this page, they don't seem to.
We use BB where I work. It monitors health of over 100 servers and does a pretty good job of it.
You didn't mention how deep you want monitoring to go. Do you want to monitor the state of any individual files or processes?
Anything you can monitor via perl/shell scripts can be reported by BB.