ok,
let me get this straight.
I'm going to give you a product or service. And, in return you dont have to give me anything. And later, everyone's gonna act all shocked when I don't make a profit and have to stop giving everything away?
Besides, how effective can the ads be? I know I would be less likely to buy from a company that was already antagonizing me and whose advertising was presented in the form of an attack.
this is what's always bothered me about spam. I mean who is actually viwing a spam email or chat message ans daying "yea yea..i got buy that or goto that web page?"
Thanks for the info about Gates recruting from NeXTSTEP---- never heard that before.
As far as
Yes, many of the innovations in NeXTSTEP have (finally) been cloned by Redmond, but that is their standard modus operandus. They never innovate.
That was basically my point though I was trying to not pull the usual slashdot geek attitdue of "microsoft sucks". I just wish the lawyers and businesmen who run the company would understand that real innovation is an investment... not just a purchase. That's one thing I've always respected about Apple and about Steve Jobs-- They've always been out there and really inovating. They've made mistakes, but they've always learned from them. The point is... apple has taken chances and produced quality hardware and software. Microsoft has only purchased/borrowed.. and repackaged.
Gates was widely quoted as saying, "Develop for NeXTSTEP? I'd rather piss on it!" Yeah, he says that then recruits from them. Why does this not surprise me. Didn't he also bash the internet and the world wide web even as late as say 93/94 -- calling it a fad ans saying it wasn't going to last. Then, in 95 turn around and start leveraging I.E. with Windows??
I know this comes off as old fashion MS bashing, but it's not. MS has a lot of great talent --- I just wish the businessmen who run the company would let them really innovate and develop. They jsut might surprise themselves.
Jobs invited Gates to contribute software to the NeXT machine, but Gates declined, saying there wasn't enough money in the narrow market Jobs was pursuing.
Note: He didn't decline because he was too busy innovating.
I'm not simply trying to bash gates, but think of how much he and microsoft could have learned by simply being involved in a project like this. Yea, NeXT would have probably still failed, and yes Gates would have lost some money, but it could have been a real investment in knowledge.
Ok, This is obivously a poorly researched article written by someone who had a deadline to meet and just wanted to be a little controversial to gain some extra hits to his page.
Now, we can do one of two things--
1) Click the link, goto his page, and generate an extra hit for his column. That of course deprives us of a good joke and lets him go "look bos, i got lots of hits"."
2) We can sit and bitch about it.
However, perhaps --- just maybe --- there is another option. Why not contact the advertisers and let them know that we are not goign to support them if they support him. Its as simple as going to the page, seeing whos ad banner is up there, and then writing them a FRIENDLY letter. Of course, copy that letter to Mr. Moody and to CBS.Com.
Now, I've been to the page three times now and have seen an ad for the weather chanel, one for Ditech.com ( a lending company), and one for a cbs show about hookers (wish i was making that up). Find out who else is posting ads there. If its an ad for an ABC tv show, then email them and say you will not being watching that show because of his post.
Above, i made sure to put the word FRIENDLY in all caps because that is just how the letter should be written. Be professional, be brief, but make sure to let them know WHY you dont support him or his rantings.
Trust me, if slashdot can bring down websites and ftp sites with a simple post, then surely we can make have an effect here.
On a side note, you could also nmap the web page of an ad sponser and find out if they are running Linux. If they are, then have them ask their IT team what they think of linux.
ell, since you need it spelled out for you. You can rant all you want to about should and supposed to, but in the end you have to deal with WHAT IS. Otherwise, you're just pissing in the wind and blaming god for making the wind blow the way it does (how wet are your pants?).
As far as your colege being more "liberal"--- that isnt exactly something to brag about. after all, Inoticed you didn't mention how much you learned there. My professors spent most of their time teaching to look at things and understand how/why they hapen, and what can be learned from it. I'm not sure what yours taught you. Maybe they were too busy flying guys to canada and didn't teach anything and you feel ripped off and thats why you have all that bent up hostitlity.
As far as the facts go --- yea Roe V Wade turned out the way it did because of public opionion, as did thedecision to allow states the right to use capital punishment. Again, they do it all the time. Remember, they judges that make these desicions are people,and they watch tv, and read the newspaper, and listen to the radio. They play poker, and talk to friends. And, they listen to what people say. Yuo can whine and moan and bitch all you want about how it shouldn't happen. But, you have to accept that it does, and only then can you have an intelligent dicsusion about how cases like this one will paly out in the courts.
My previous post was short because I felt the average slashdot reader could understant what I was saying. Thanks for proving me wronge. In the future, I will make a point of writing out long wordy post with lots of CAPS and lots of anger so that people like you can understand it.
The judicial system conversly is meant ONLY to enforce those laws, it is NOT there to make laws or use their power to reflect the views of the people.
uumm. Roe Vs. Wade???
And in keeping with your lil attack there on the other poster let me just say that your view is strictly that of high school level education. For the most part, it's not until college that you learn just how much public opion has/does sway the courts.
I saw it- twice now. And I'll probaly see it at least five more times. I've been waiting for thi movie to come out for 15 years now at least and im not gonna miss a chance see it as much as possible. I dont have any idea what move these "reviewers" saw, but it looks to me as though they we two busy writing their reviews to actually watch the damned movie. In fact, the biggest problem I found was getting used to wolverine being so small. However, that's more the fault of the artist drawing him in the comic book than the movie. He had always been descibed as small. chris Claremont even called "scrawny" on several occasions. So, in an odd twist, the movie had a better portrayal of him than the original comic book. And, any fan will love all the extras in there, like the comment about yellow spandex.
Speaking of extras, maybe someone who ACTUALLY WATCHED the movie can asnwer something. There was the scene in the class where the kid makes the fireball and Iceman freezes it. Storm called the the kid who made the fire ball "Jonny". Now, isnt the human torch from the Fantastic Four also named jonny? I know the human torch isnt a mutant, but any one think maybe Byan Singer was just having a little fun in there.
BTW, who else saw Magneto ask Wolvering how tightly the metal was bond to his bones and then had flashbacks to X-Men (or was it Wolvering) #75? when magneto ripped the adamantium out of wolverine's body?
Well, all i know is the actors had to sign a contract to do three episodes and with the success that the film has already had, im sure they'll make the other two.
Does he really believe that the government will let him explode that much fuel from his backyard (or without a permit of any sort, anywhere)?
from the article: Soon, he'll be constructing a 30-foot-long launch trailer he plans to tow into the Alvord Desert just east of Steens Mountain next year for his solo flight.
he's not actually gonna launch this thing from his backyard, that would be silly.:)
ok they are suing on behalf of @2.5 million people and asking for between 15 and 20 million dollars. Now assuming the lawyers dont get any of thaat (yea, right!) that comes out to between 6 and 8 bucks per person.
Now, once you factor in the lawyer's take which is gonna be between 30 and 50 percent, it comes out to between 3 and 6 bucks per person. And all thise becuase these people on aol were too stupid to either a) go use another ISP or b) use their marketing preferences to turn the ads off.
and lawyers wonder why so many people hate them.
On another note, the one of the lawyers suing said that this was a problem because "Only after a customer reads through a series of advertisements, or clicks the "No thanks" button, is the pop-up removed from the screen and the user is able to resume using AOL's services, such as e-mail or the Internet. "If you have kids and they read slowly, or they read each ad, that time adds up."
Ok, fine lets get every single person who is stupid enough to go along with this class action suit to get up on court and testify that they read all the ads before heading off to one of the chat rooms.... err, i mean off to do important stuff like email and and surfing the internet.
I just think that the laws are simply wrong. If I download music from the internet, it's not stealing, it's making a political statement. It's civil disobedience. It's a peaceful form of protest. Don't I have the right to protest?
Yes you do have that right so long as you are willing to take the penalty that comes with that protest. I beleive it was Martin Luther King Jr. yousaid "let's fill the jails."
on a side note-- What exactly are you protesting?
Look at me, im downlaoding a song, Im a protester just like MLK
give me a break. Your downloading songs because its chaep (ok, free), and its easy. At least admit it. I'd have more respect for you that way. br
While that may be all true it doesn't change the fact that Napster is NOT doing anything wrong
napster helps people find copyrighted material to download. I think its called aiding and abedding (sp)??
All it is doing is routing packets without ever knowing if it is legal or no
And winnuke only sending out packets so whats the big deal?
If they get the axe then what happens to the thousands of routers out there which do the exact same thing, or any other server/protocol for that matter
They would go about their day without the added workload of all those copyrighted MP3's flying around that napster helped people find.
Napster is NOT only used to transfer copyrighted material
But it is MOSTLY used to trasnfer copyrighted material. When was the last time you downlaoded a song with napster that wasn't copyrighted material?
It is also a valuable informational and promotional tool. Much like the world wide web.
Yes, just yesterday I used napster to look up some information on the former Austrian Archduke Metternich. Then i typed in "show me new artist that need to be promoted" and it fucking gave me a list man.
You started off your post with the words "you're missing the point". To be honest I think you do get the point, you're just too busy hiding behind excuses. Again i have to ask, "when was the last time you downloaded a song that WASN'T copyrighted?"
acording to nbc nightly news, it has been missing for over TWO months now. Or, over a month before the fires. Also, the hard disks and other things had been stored in a vault. If it wasnt foul play, then it has to be chalked up to some really stupid play.
no, but mandrake+SuSE could make for a powerful company. Again, its all speculation, butthat would leave Red hat out on their own. however, your point does raise another interesting point. It would be dumb for RedHat and Mandrake to merge, it's the same distro anyway If all the distros are open source, why merge? Why not just use their source code like corel did with debian or mandrake did with red hat?
Debian will probably stay.. well. debian (open, free). It will probably also stay the base for people using linux to power web servers and developement.
Caldera will probbaly get bought out by a hardware company (i.e. compaq, ibm. or anyone else)
Between SuSE, Mandrake, Redhat, two will probably merge and try to do everything, while one will will become a dominate desktop distro.
yea, its speculation, yea im probably wronge, but then..... lets just wait and see.
what ever happpens, lets hope that theres always at least three distros to compete against each other.
Ok, He's painting a vision of the future that dirty and techno driven? And in this vision, the large companies have taken over everything? OK, now where is this anything new? Doesnt almost every sci-fi vision of the furute involve this? Blade runner? Magnus Robot Fighter? and about a thouisand other movies / novels/ Rpgs/ or just general tales of wonder.
What's next week's article going to be? A new idea about how we could all be living on the moon one day? Oh, wait, I got it. How about a vision of the future where where we (or some alien race) has destoryed the planet and now the only humans left are trapped on a ship somewhere?
What ever you do, realize that for a large number of geeks here on/. your articles start off at (-1 flamebait). How about at least trying next time?
To make this clear: I don't want to defend the license agreements described in the article but I can understand that software industry tries to prevent piracy. After all most people need to earn money to survive (and not all firms are as big and financial successful as Microsoft)
Your point is well made, and very valid. but consider this 1) isn't it ironic that it is the single largest sofware company doing this and not the smaller ones, like the Open Source venders.
2) isnt it also ironic that by making the the *purchased* software so limited, it makes people want to use pirated software more so that they can get one that is less limited.
i mean who is worse- the guy who gives away copies of pirated sofware that works, or the guy who sells you software he owns but then cripples it?
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I think the above post basicaly says all that is needed to be said on the subject. "i use linux, so screw it." I paid 30 bucks for Suse 6.4. It came with six cd's worth of software and a 500 page manual. And, to be honest, it was a better buy then the free recovery disk that came with my computer. I loaned SuSE to a friend and he liked it so much he went out and bought his own copy so he could have it and the manual for himself.
Of course, the biggest irony here is that the operating system you need to install the most, wont let you (or at least restricts your ability to).
oh humm, Two more Linux users in the world--- two less windows users staring at a blue screen.
He writes Privacy is getting your e-mail address taken off of "spam" mailing lists; privacy is making sure some hacker doesn't have access to your social security number or your mother's maiden name. On line, privacy is assuring that what you do, so long as it is legal, is your own business and may not be exploited by others.
Perahaps, I mean just perhaps if companies did a better job of proecting people's privacy then we wouldn't end up with our email adress on those spamming list to begin with. Perhaps we also wouldn't have to worry as much that some cyber criminal doesn't end up with my social security number or mothers maiden name.
With out at east some anonymity there can be no privacy. And wouldn't you know its some large corporation trying to strip us of both.
Ok, Isn't it odd that the most *extreme* lnux users speak from one side of their mouths when talking about "total world domination" and then use the other side of their mouths to talk about how all the newbies are idiots.
Or, perhapos they speak out of their mouths and their asses.
the fact is that there are really all of about 6 comands needed to compile and instal the kernel.
make config
make dep
make clean
make *Image
make modules
make module_install
the fact also reamins that you need to *really* understand what these comands do and the effects they have.
if you think you are so damned 31337 then prove it by taking the damned time to educate someone. Flames come from trolls, wise words comes from the truly wise. we all know what you are.
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ok,
let me get this straight.
I'm going to give you a product or service. And, in return you dont have to give me anything. And later, everyone's gonna act all shocked when I don't make a profit and have to stop giving everything away?
Besides, how effective can the ads be? I know I would be less likely to buy from a company that was already antagonizing me and whose advertising was presented in the form of an attack.
this is what's always bothered me about spam. I mean who is actually viwing a spam email or chat message ans daying "yea yea..i got buy that or goto that web page?"
apparently someone is... but who?
Thanks for the info about Gates recruting from NeXTSTEP---- never heard that before.
As far as
Yes, many of the innovations in NeXTSTEP have (finally) been cloned by Redmond, but that is their standard modus operandus. They never innovate.
That was basically my point though I was trying to not pull the usual slashdot geek attitdue of "microsoft sucks". I just wish the lawyers and businesmen who run the company would understand that real innovation is an investment... not just a purchase. That's one thing I've always respected about Apple and about Steve Jobs-- They've always been out there and really inovating. They've made mistakes, but they've always learned from them. The point is... apple has taken chances and produced quality hardware and software. Microsoft has only purchased/borrowed.. and repackaged.
Gates was widely quoted as saying, "Develop for NeXTSTEP? I'd rather piss on it!"
Yeah, he says that then recruits from them. Why does this not surprise me. Didn't he also bash the internet and the world wide web even as late as say 93/94 -- calling it a fad ans saying it wasn't going to last. Then, in 95 turn around and start leveraging I.E. with Windows??
I know this comes off as old fashion MS bashing, but it's not. MS has a lot of great talent --- I just wish the businessmen who run the company would let them really innovate and develop. They jsut might surprise themselves.
Take from this page
Jobs invited Gates to contribute software to the NeXT machine, but Gates declined, saying there wasn't enough money in the narrow market Jobs was pursuing.
Note: He didn't decline because he was too busy innovating.
I'm not simply trying to bash gates, but think of how much he and microsoft could have learned by simply being involved in a project like this. Yea, NeXT would have probably still failed, and yes Gates would have lost some money, but it could have been a real investment in knowledge.
Ok, This is obivously a poorly researched article written by someone who had a deadline to meet and just wanted to be a little controversial to gain some extra hits to his page.
Now, we can do one of two things--
1) Click the link, goto his page, and generate an extra hit for his column. That of course deprives us of a good joke and lets him go "look bos, i got lots of hits"."
2) We can sit and bitch about it.
However, perhaps --- just maybe --- there is another option. Why not contact the advertisers and let them know that we are not goign to support them if they support him. Its as simple as going to the page, seeing whos ad banner is up there, and then writing them a FRIENDLY letter. Of course, copy that letter to Mr. Moody and to CBS.Com.
Now, I've been to the page three times now and have seen an ad for the weather chanel, one for Ditech.com ( a lending company), and one for a cbs show about hookers (wish i was making that up). Find out who else is posting ads there. If its an ad for an ABC tv show, then email them and say you will not being watching that show because of his post.
Above, i made sure to put the word FRIENDLY in all caps because that is just how the letter should be written. Be professional, be brief, but make sure to let them know WHY you dont support him or his rantings.
Trust me, if slashdot can bring down websites and ftp sites with a simple post, then surely we can make have an effect here.
On a side note, you could also nmap the web page of an ad sponser and find out if they are running Linux. If they are, then have them ask their IT team what they think of linux.
ell, since you need it spelled out for you. You can rant all you want to about should and supposed to, but in the end you have to deal with WHAT IS. Otherwise, you're just pissing in the wind and blaming god for making the wind blow the way it does (how wet are your pants?).
As far as your colege being more "liberal"--- that isnt exactly something to brag about. after all, Inoticed you didn't mention how much you learned there. My professors spent most of their time teaching to look at things and understand how/why they hapen, and what can be learned from it. I'm not sure what yours taught you. Maybe they were too busy flying guys to canada and didn't teach anything and you feel ripped off and thats why you have all that bent up hostitlity.
As far as the facts go --- yea Roe V Wade turned out the way it did because of public opionion, as did thedecision to allow states the right to use capital punishment. Again, they do it all the time. Remember, they judges that make these desicions are people,and they watch tv, and read the newspaper, and listen to the radio. They play poker, and talk to friends. And, they listen to what people say. Yuo can whine and moan and bitch all you want about how it shouldn't happen. But, you have to accept that it does, and only then can you have an intelligent dicsusion about how cases like this one will paly out in the courts.
My previous post was short because I felt the average slashdot reader could understant what I was saying. Thanks for proving me wronge. In the future, I will make a point of writing out long wordy post with lots of CAPS and lots of anger so that people like you can understand it.
The judicial system conversly is meant ONLY to enforce those laws, it is NOT there to make laws or use their power to reflect the views of the people.
uumm. Roe Vs. Wade???
And in keeping with your lil attack there on the other poster let me just say that your view is strictly that of high school level education. For the most part, it's not until college that you learn just how much public opion has/does sway the courts.
benifits of a clasical education.
I saw it- twice now. And I'll probaly see it at least five more times. I've been waiting for thi movie to come out for 15 years now at least and im not gonna miss a chance see it as much as possible. I dont have any idea what move these "reviewers" saw, but it looks to me as though they we two busy writing their reviews to actually watch the damned movie.
In fact, the biggest problem I found was getting used to wolverine being so small. However, that's more the fault of the artist drawing him in the comic book than the movie. He had always been descibed as small. chris Claremont even called "scrawny" on several occasions. So, in an odd twist, the movie had a better portrayal of him than the original comic book. And, any fan will love all the extras in there, like the comment about yellow spandex.
Speaking of extras, maybe someone who ACTUALLY WATCHED the movie can asnwer something. There was the scene in the class where the kid makes the fireball and Iceman freezes it. Storm called the the kid who made the fire ball "Jonny". Now, isnt the human torch from the Fantastic Four also named jonny? I know the human torch isnt a mutant, but any one think maybe Byan Singer was just having a little fun in there.
BTW, who else saw Magneto ask Wolvering how tightly the metal was bond to his bones and then had flashbacks to X-Men (or was it Wolvering) #75? when magneto ripped the adamantium out of wolverine's body?
Well, all i know is the actors had to sign a contract to do three episodes and with the success that the film has already had, im sure they'll make the other two.
cant wait.
Does he really believe that the government will let him explode that much fuel from his backyard (or without a permit of any sort, anywhere)?
:)
from the article:
Soon, he'll be constructing a 30-foot-long launch trailer he plans to tow into the Alvord Desert just east of Steens Mountain next year for his solo flight.
he's not actually gonna launch this thing from his backyard, that would be silly.
Actually, I don't see a single reason why this can't be done, according to the research I've done by watching hours and hours of cartoons.
oh yea
we all know how succesful wiley coyote was with this idea.
i hope this guy isnt getting is stuff from ACME also.
ok they are suing on behalf of @2.5 million people and asking for between 15 and 20 million dollars. Now assuming the lawyers dont get any of thaat (yea, right!) that comes out to between 6 and 8 bucks per person.
Now, once you factor in the lawyer's take which is gonna be between 30 and 50 percent, it comes out to between 3 and 6 bucks per person. And all thise becuase these people on aol were too stupid to either
a) go use another ISP
or
b) use their marketing preferences to turn the ads off.
and lawyers wonder why so many people hate them.
On another note, the one of the lawyers suing said that this was a problem because "Only after a customer reads through a series of advertisements, or clicks the "No thanks" button, is the pop-up removed from the screen and the user is able to resume using AOL's services, such as e-mail or the Internet. "If you have kids and they read slowly, or they read each ad, that time adds up."
Ok, fine lets get every single person who is stupid enough to go along with this class action suit to get up on court and testify that they read all the ads before heading off to one of the chat rooms.... err, i mean off to do important stuff like email and and surfing the internet.
I just think that the laws are simply wrong. If I download music from the internet, it's not stealing, it's making a political statement. It's civil disobedience. It's a peaceful form of protest. Don't I have the right to protest?
Yes you do have that right so long as you are willing to take the penalty that comes with that protest. I beleive it was Martin Luther King Jr. yousaid "let's fill the jails."
on a side note-- What exactly are you protesting?
Look at me, im downlaoding a song, Im a protester just like MLK
give me a break. Your downloading songs because its chaep (ok, free), and its easy. At least admit it. I'd have more respect for you that way.
br
While that may be all true it doesn't change the fact that Napster is NOT doing anything wrong
napster helps people find copyrighted material to download. I think its called aiding and abedding (sp)??
All it is doing is routing packets without ever knowing if it is legal or no
And winnuke only sending out packets so whats the big deal?
If they get the axe then what happens to the thousands of routers out there which do the exact same thing, or any other server/protocol for that matter
They would go about their day without the added workload of all those copyrighted MP3's flying around that napster helped people find.
Napster is NOT only used to transfer copyrighted material
But it is MOSTLY used to trasnfer copyrighted material. When was the last time you downlaoded a song with napster that wasn't copyrighted material?
It is also a valuable informational and promotional tool. Much like the world wide web.
Yes, just yesterday I used napster to look up some information on the former Austrian Archduke Metternich. Then i typed in "show me new artist that need to be promoted" and it fucking gave me a list man.
You started off your post with the words "you're missing the point". To be honest I think you do get the point, you're just too busy hiding behind excuses. Again i have to ask, "when was the last time you downloaded a song that WASN'T copyrighted?"
What if people start distributing MP3s through ICQ en masse
you mean their not already?? I do, all the time with friends.
This is too damned funny, i think the /. effect could maybe take care of him.
on a side note, doesnt this have the makings for agrewat varient to the I LOVE YOU virus. everytime you open it, your browser hits this page.
oh humm. what can you say?
acording to nbc nightly news, it has been missing for over TWO months now. Or, over a month before the fires. Also, the hard disks and other things had been stored in a vault.
If it wasnt foul play, then it has to be chalked up to some really stupid play.
no, but mandrake+SuSE could make for a powerful company. Again, its all speculation, butthat would leave Red hat out on their own.
however, your point does raise another interesting point.
It would be dumb for RedHat and Mandrake to merge, it's the same distro anyway
If all the distros are open source, why merge? Why not just use their source code like corel did with debian or mandrake did with red hat?
Debian will probably stay.. well. debian (open, free). It will probably also stay the base for people using linux to power web servers and developement.
Caldera will probbaly get bought out by a hardware company (i.e. compaq, ibm. or anyone else)
Between SuSE, Mandrake, Redhat, two will probably merge and try to do everything, while one will will become a dominate desktop distro.
yea, its speculation, yea im probably wronge, but then..... lets just wait and see.
what ever happpens, lets hope that theres always at least three distros to compete against each other.
This is all neat until green peace finds out about it and starts protesting because its disturbing the fish.
;)
of course the scary part will happen when the fish start replying.
Ok,
/. your articles start off at (-1 flamebait). How about at least trying next time?
He's painting a vision of the future that dirty and techno driven? And in this vision, the large companies have taken over everything?
OK, now where is this anything new? Doesnt almost every sci-fi vision of the furute involve this?
Blade runner? Magnus Robot Fighter? and about a thouisand other movies / novels/ Rpgs/ or just general tales of wonder.
What's next week's article going to be? A new idea about how we could all be living on the moon one day? Oh, wait, I got it. How about a vision of the future where where we (or some alien race) has destoryed the planet and now the only humans left are trapped on a ship somewhere?
What ever you do, realize that for a large number of geeks here on
To make this clear: I don't want to defend the license agreements described in the article but I can understand that software industry tries to prevent piracy. After all most people need to earn money to survive (and not all firms are as big and financial successful as Microsoft)
Your point is well made, and very valid.
but
consider this
1) isn't it ironic that it is the single largest sofware company doing this and not the smaller ones, like the Open Source venders.
2) isnt it also ironic that by making the the *purchased* software so limited, it makes people want to use pirated software more so that they can get one that is less limited.
i mean who is worse- the guy who gives away copies of pirated sofware that works, or the guy who sells you software he owns but then cripples it?
I think the above post basicaly says all that is needed to be said on the subject.
"i use linux, so screw it."
I paid 30 bucks for Suse 6.4. It came with six cd's worth of software and a 500 page manual. And, to be honest, it was a better buy then the free recovery disk that came with my computer.
I loaned SuSE to a friend and he liked it so much he went out and bought his own copy so he could have it and the manual for himself.
Of course, the biggest irony here is that the operating system you need to install the most, wont let you (or at least restricts your ability to).
oh humm, Two more Linux users in the world--- two less windows users staring at a blue screen.
The only thing I have problems with is Netscape.
:o)
Oh, you've got that problem also? Actually, if netscape could just handle java better than my world would get a lot closer to being perfect.
He writes
Privacy is getting your e-mail address taken off of "spam" mailing lists; privacy is making sure some hacker doesn't have access to your social security number or your mother's maiden name. On line, privacy is assuring that what you do, so long as it is legal, is your own business and may not be exploited by others.
Perahaps, I mean just perhaps if companies did a better job of proecting people's privacy then we wouldn't end up with our email adress on those spamming list to begin with. Perhaps we also wouldn't have to worry as much that some cyber criminal doesn't end up with my social security number or mothers maiden name.
With out at east some anonymity there can be no privacy. And wouldn't you know its some large corporation trying to strip us of both.
Or, perhapos they speak out of their mouths and their asses.
the fact is that there are really all of about 6 comands needed to compile and instal the kernel.
make config
make dep
make clean
make *Image
make modules
make module_install
the fact also reamins that you need to *really* understand what these comands do and the effects they have.
if you think you are so damned 31337 then prove it by taking the damned time to educate someone. Flames come from trolls, wise words comes from the truly wise. we all know what you are.