it's H320-H323 so probably only a big stereoscopic grabber, it works over ISDN, and basically it's probably grabbing 2 video signals, transmitting it seen like a standard image on the H261 (or 263?) codec, and on the other end it generates something stereo, still if it's H320 compatible, it's not a big deal, limited resolution (so if you have to cramp 2 signal to get stereo, bwah) and so on.. I'd rather like the other pointed out in scientific america with the glasses and big screen.
And god, do I hate people saying HOLOGRAPHIC when it's AUTOSTEREOSCOPIC.
Oh ok I'll install NetBSD for my dad and let him see live webcast, install his TD banking/trading software, and play nice games on it.
Oh wait... your best os in the world can't do that...
Geez, I remember when I lived religiously for my amiga and nothing else was better (well at least BACK THEN nothing else was better:)))) ) but today, call windows2000 a piece of crap, and you're way off... I've installed redhat 7 on a 1.3Gig hard drive, funny, when you want to install a server version, it won't even auto partition the god damn drive, NOT ENOUGH SPACE, and you people blasted MS's installations that would kill hard drive space? I can fit WIn2k installation on that same drive. And strangely enough, I have a buttload of supported hardware, stable system and yes, it's not PERFECT, but nothing is, nothing will ever be, PERFECTION is a SUBJECTIVE term, and there's what... 6 billion opinions on the surface of this planet?
I don't want this to sound like a troll, and I am fully aware that Redhat is a distribution and you can fit linux on a nice floppy (or anyways, a functionning linux on a 40 meg hard drive) just like you can strip some windows component (like win9xlite software for example, that kills about everything useless in win9x to fit in an embedded system for one application example).
Point is, hate microsoft, wish them death, but they've managed to pull out something NO OTHER OS DID, broad hardware support/drivers, broad gaming platform, broad buisness platform, broad professionnal platform (cad/3d/NLE video) *ALL IN THE SAME OS*. I think people that don't acknoledge that should go in a cult and commit mass suicide because you're seeing only what you want to see.
As for the bad buisness practice, well I think the nicest settlement for both sides would be dirt cheap (or free) windowsXP upgrades settlement (that, if XP is worth it:) ) that would cost them a lot, but wouldn't kill them, and the user would finally have something that works better than win95, assuming he's still running 95:).
I don't say they should shoot and run free, but wishing them death, I'm sorry people but there's *NO* alternative platform that brings everything that M$ brings altogether. There independant platform for gaming, there's independant platform for NLE editing, and 3D animating, there's other platform for offcice work, but.... think about it seriously, think about no windows at all tomorrow morning...
They've managed to come a long way since windows 1.0, I hated 3.11, sold my pc and kept my Amiga 2000, but seeing Windows 2000 today, and actually use it a while, with good drivers and everything to eliminate the "stability" issues caused by 3rd parties, you get a great stable system, that isn't PERFECT (memory pig is one weakness) but DOES the job very well. It took them long, they copied over a lot of things that already existed, hate them for that, but at least I can enjoy the idea that would have probably ended somewhere and never surface anyways.
God, they should use their time to create something innovative like JAZ was many years ago, cuz with their Click! flop and their BUZ flop and their overpriced/underperforming JAZ stuff nowadays (oh and those 250MB zip disks? maybe they should can the zip and sell the 2GB cardrige to the zip price point, that'd sell), what, they want to add content control? and sell even less of their overpriced stuff? way to go Iomega.
Remember what happened with real networks? well they still have their truste thing, woah... what a GOOD releif knowing that truste is helping to protect consumer privacy...
Are you guys scared of competition? are you guys scared amiga might make actually linux look good? what's with all the negativity? you guys are acting the same way mac users were reacting after seeing an amiga emulating their 5000$ macintosh faster...
I am glad seeing a BIG player in the electronic industry validating the current technology, yes it's not the classic amiga line on steroids, but hell I sure would like to see the name given credit if anything cool comes out of it and see amiga have it's right place in history... apple has a big part when you go see movies like pirates of sillicone valley or you look at documentaries about computer, fact is, you often never hear about the fact that the C=64 at one point had the biggest market share of personnal computers at home (well you hardly hear from commodore at all). Now if amiga would succeed in any ways, oh NOW people would know that a certain machine existed in 85 and was doing most of the stuff they are doing today (video editing, 3d, etc etc).
I haven't *NEEDED* any microsoft product before windows 95 got popular, I didn't *NEED* to conform to word for sending resume over email etc etc, I could do my presentations with Scala (god powerpoint sucks, have you ever tried scala?, do my 3d with lightwave, do my word processing with final writer, and heck, I had TV out in 85, I had smooth video while my pc was jerking like h*ll even in 256 colors. Anyways... just a clue.
So if amiga succeeds in any way, maybe it'll have it's right place in history as well and give Jay Miner some credits, and also "set us up the joy":)
just put the digital right management stuff and non-authorized mp3 screetching sound in the speakers (and all those rumored copy protection schemes) and you'll get bad publicity, especially that every joe nobody knows about mp3 since the napster episode.
Can still remember playing DM on my amiga 500, I Was thinking of this recently "hey, I should play that game again, it was soooo f... cool" but I didn't feel like pluging the A500 back, thank you Java:) that will rock!:)
I remember seeing comments here on how much the RIAA was clever and we shouldn't take them for complete morons and if they did do this and that to napster and others, they probably had a good reason, and a clever strategy...etc etc....
Sorry, but... either they are brilliant at manipulating the system, or just plain f* stupid and hypocrite to play the 2-faces like that in such a short amount of time.
I'd vote for the 2nd option, because if it would have been option #1, they would have at LEAST waited a while for people to forget about what just happened.
Either way, I sure hope artists will backfire on them, any artist supporting these idiots deserves to be pirated, heck, worse, BANNED.
SO what, I'm on Win2k and I didn't get offended by that message, if he wants people to port it to his platform, why the heck not stating it? I'd rather like seeing a post like that than 10000 All your base are belong to us:)
Great, the NT workstation had that stupid number nine card as a bottleneck (i.e. you couldn't plug that nice LCD screen on anything else, so you were stucked with a cheezy card) Now it's gonna be the processor, IA-64 is dead on arrival (compare it to alpha, AMD's solution which is way better for backward compatibility + performance, and heck, I'm sure even MIPS got something better. The only way I do see intel's pulling an "intel" out of this one would be with their marketting "lies" again.
Then again both companies needs prestigieous PRs to please the shareholders
Healthcare system? I almost got paralized because of incompetent doctors, and also due to the fact that so many people are abusing the system and get notes from doctors to get sick days off, that when you have something that is other than "standard" problems, especially if your symptoms fits in the "standard", you face a serious nightmare because they won't push it, to save cost due to abuse. When you have to PAY for something, you get a lot less abusing. There's not a perfect solution. Oh and if you keep the same system and charge a low fee per use, you'll get those people on wealthfare screaming "injustice" so you never win.
You don't have to buy the card right now and pay a premium just to get FSAA as the only feature you can play with *NOW*.
You don't need to buy the latest CPU neither, i.e. paying 300-400$more for only a few 100mhz's more.
Thing is, that will drive the price of the GTS ultra or GTS 64MB DDR down, which can be used right now for gaming, in a year or more from now the geforce3 will have come down in price (decent gaming board) and will support the games out by then.
Oh one last thing, there's not only GAMING in the world, that card competes with the big-ass 3D accelerators for CAD/3D modeling/3D animating.... why would I shell out 2000$+ if a Quadro3 (probably) will cost me 1000$ (or better yet, 500$ plus modification like with the Gforce2:) ).
Since 1995, the only thing I heard about new amiga stuff was "in project" "in work" "soon to be released" "this" "that". 99% of the stuff never got out, (and I am not only talking about Jim Drew's SNES/GENESIS/etc emulator on the emplant board, hehe, I am talking about viscorp, gateway, escom, side projects...
The only thing that came out since 6 years that is tangible is the SDK. And I might be a moron, but I hate it.
God Gimme a an accelerator with a 68100-600mhz with 680x0 emulation, with a GeForce2GTS as graphic chip, DDR266 ram expantion, with cybergraphics support, Ethernet... all this in my A1200, and NOW you'll have your killer machine!
actually the 68100 doesn't exist but you could do the same with a G4.
The more I think of it the more I like it, imagine with all the ports behind a 1200, add firewire, video capture, scsi, yikes, I am drooling. I should stop:)
Dude, as much as I love my amiga, you sound sooo biased that it makes you look lame. "most PC 3D games are rather slow" Err... you still using that matrox millenium card?
Amiga is superior for 2D gaming, well depends, I didn't see any starcraft or Red Alert or the newest incarnation of Worms. So it's a matter of taste... if you mean "2D arcade games" now you're getting more specific and I'll totally agree, project-X on PC sucked bad, the "feeling" isn't the same, the sprites looks "solid" on amiga while on PC most 2D games have that "post-it"-sprite-look over a background.
Just my 1.5cents.
And while at it, I want full support for VGA mode
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You play a multiplayer game with 20 people at the same time, how the HECK are you supposed to crunch the data enough so you can send position/movement/expression/ammos location/chat/yadi yada at at least 10 intervals per second in a 2.0K/sec connection? it's just a physical barrier, compression? extra loads of processing power? c'mon...
It's like saying, I want to be able to have 20 bots in Q3A on my celeron 300A, at some point you can't do anything about it, unless of course you concentrate a shitload of ressource to optimise the code even more, but then again you miss shipping date and you'll probably miss the "low system requirement is unlimited" target too.
I remember when I was on my 300 bauds modem, and I was downloading games on my C64 40 minutes to download something like 200 blocks.. while I could do it tons faster with a 1200 bauds. Of course when I arrived on PC with my 2400 bauds I've learned some protocols were faster than some others (well on C64 you had what, Punter and X-modem?:) ) Point is, even if you'd optimise and crunch and this and that, at some point you'd have to accept the fact that your hardware was limited and you needed UPGRADE.
I'm sure game developpers aren't stupid enough to not try to crunch the most data possible so dialups can enjoy as much as possible. You want to get the most people to buy your game no? Look at Q3A for example, I remember some.plan updates about optimizing the network data even more (motion prediction algorythms)
I don't want to piss people off by saying that, but take for example doom 3, it'll run on a tnt-2 (poorly and slowly) if I recall what John said, and if you want to have the full featured effects and jaw-dropping graphics, you'll need a GF3, same goes for network, you *CAN'T* have broadband playability (i.e. 20 people at the same time) on a non-broadband connection. Live with it, or upgrade, if you can't, well, play with less people, it's still manageable, if you claim you're stucked on 3 players with your 28K8, how about upgrading it to 56K for a start... else you sound like someone complaining that pages load slowly on 14k4...:)
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it's H320-H323 so probably only a big stereoscopic grabber, it works over ISDN, and basically it's probably grabbing 2 video signals, transmitting it seen like a standard image on the H261 (or 263?) codec, and on the other end it generates something stereo, still if it's H320 compatible, it's not a big deal, limited resolution (so if you have to cramp 2 signal to get stereo, bwah) and so on.. I'd rather like the other pointed out in scientific america with the glasses and big screen.
And god, do I hate people saying HOLOGRAPHIC when it's AUTOSTEREOSCOPIC.
Oh ok I'll install NetBSD for my dad and let him see live webcast, install his TD banking/trading software, and play nice games on it.
:)))) ) but today, call windows2000 a piece of crap, and you're way off... I've installed redhat 7 on a 1.3Gig hard drive, funny, when you want to install a server version, it won't even auto partition the god damn drive, NOT ENOUGH SPACE, and you people blasted MS's installations that would kill hard drive space? I can fit WIn2k installation on that same drive. And strangely enough, I have a buttload of supported hardware, stable system and yes, it's not PERFECT, but nothing is, nothing will ever be, PERFECTION is a SUBJECTIVE term, and there's what... 6 billion opinions on the surface of this planet?
:) ) that would cost them a lot, but wouldn't kill them, and the user would finally have something that works better than win95, assuming he's still running 95 :).
Oh wait... your best os in the world can't do that...
Geez, I remember when I lived religiously for my amiga and nothing else was better (well at least BACK THEN nothing else was better
I don't want this to sound like a troll, and I am fully aware that Redhat is a distribution and you can fit linux on a nice floppy (or anyways, a functionning linux on a 40 meg hard drive) just like you can strip some windows component (like win9xlite software for example, that kills about everything useless in win9x to fit in an embedded system for one application example).
Point is, hate microsoft, wish them death, but they've managed to pull out something NO OTHER OS DID, broad hardware support/drivers, broad gaming platform, broad buisness platform, broad professionnal platform (cad/3d/NLE video) *ALL IN THE SAME OS*. I think people that don't acknoledge that should go in a cult and commit mass suicide because you're seeing only what you want to see.
As for the bad buisness practice, well I think the nicest settlement for both sides would be dirt cheap (or free) windowsXP upgrades settlement (that, if XP is worth it
I don't say they should shoot and run free, but wishing them death, I'm sorry people but there's *NO* alternative platform that brings everything that M$ brings altogether. There independant platform for gaming, there's independant platform for NLE editing, and 3D animating, there's other platform for offcice work, but.... think about it seriously, think about no windows at all tomorrow morning...
They've managed to come a long way since windows 1.0, I hated 3.11, sold my pc and kept my Amiga 2000, but seeing Windows 2000 today, and actually use it a while, with good drivers and everything to eliminate the "stability" issues caused by 3rd parties, you get a great stable system, that isn't PERFECT (memory pig is one weakness) but DOES the job very well. It took them long, they copied over a lot of things that already existed, hate them for that, but at least I can enjoy the idea that would have probably ended somewhere and never surface anyways.
God, they should use their time to create something innovative like JAZ was many years ago, cuz with their Click! flop and their BUZ flop and their overpriced/underperforming JAZ stuff nowadays (oh and those 250MB zip disks? maybe they should can the zip and sell the 2GB cardrige to the zip price point, that'd sell), what, they want to add content control? and sell even less of their overpriced stuff? way to go Iomega.
ne idea if it's gonna air in canada?
Remember what happened with real networks? well they still have their truste thing, woah... what a GOOD releif knowing that truste is helping to protect consumer privacy...
bull.
Are you guys scared of competition? are you guys scared amiga might make actually linux look good? what's with all the negativity? you guys are acting the same way mac users were reacting after seeing an amiga emulating their 5000$ macintosh faster...
:)
I am glad seeing a BIG player in the electronic industry validating the current technology, yes it's not the classic amiga line on steroids, but hell I sure would like to see the name given credit if anything cool comes out of it and see amiga have it's right place in history... apple has a big part when you go see movies like pirates of sillicone valley or you look at documentaries about computer, fact is, you often never hear about the fact that the C=64 at one point had the biggest market share of personnal computers at home (well you hardly hear from commodore at all). Now if amiga would succeed in any ways, oh NOW people would know that a certain machine existed in 85 and was doing most of the stuff they are doing today (video editing, 3d, etc etc).
I haven't *NEEDED* any microsoft product before windows 95 got popular, I didn't *NEED* to conform to word for sending resume over email etc etc, I could do my presentations with Scala (god powerpoint sucks, have you ever tried scala?, do my 3d with lightwave, do my word processing with final writer, and heck, I had TV out in 85, I had smooth video while my pc was jerking like h*ll even in 256 colors. Anyways... just a clue.
So if amiga succeeds in any way, maybe it'll have it's right place in history as well and give Jay Miner some credits, and also "set us up the joy"
Find me that one :)
"reversed big bang"
What's with this alien stuff since a few days? has slashdot heard rumors about an invasion that I didn't hear of? :)
There's no such thing as stupid questions... only stupid people...
Mr Garisson.
virtual valery needs more AI , just imagine the possibilities ;)
just put the digital right management stuff and non-authorized mp3 screetching sound in the speakers (and all those rumored copy protection schemes) and you'll get bad publicity, especially that every joe nobody knows about mp3 since the napster episode.
Watch out kenny! :)
Can still remember playing DM on my amiga 500, I Was thinking of this recently "hey, I should play that game again, it was soooo f... cool" but I didn't feel like pluging the A500 back, thank you Java :) that will rock! :)
Click Boom! is already taken, amiga software company ;)
I remember seeing comments here on how much the RIAA was clever and we shouldn't take them for complete morons and if they did do this and that to napster and others, they probably had a good reason, and a clever strategy...etc etc....
Sorry, but... either they are brilliant at manipulating the system, or just plain f* stupid and hypocrite to play the 2-faces like that in such a short amount of time.
I'd vote for the 2nd option, because if it would have been option #1, they would have at LEAST waited a while for people to forget about what just happened.
Either way, I sure hope artists will backfire on them, any artist supporting these idiots deserves to be pirated, heck, worse, BANNED.
SO what, I'm on Win2k and I didn't get offended by that message, if he wants people to port it to his platform, why the heck not stating it? I'd rather like seeing a post like that than 10000 All your base are belong to us :)
Great, the NT workstation had that stupid number nine card as a bottleneck (i.e. you couldn't plug that nice LCD screen on anything else, so you were stucked with a cheezy card) Now it's gonna be the processor, IA-64 is dead on arrival (compare it to alpha, AMD's solution which is way better for backward compatibility + performance, and heck, I'm sure even MIPS got something better. The only way I do see intel's pulling an "intel" out of this one would be with their marketting "lies" again.
Then again both companies needs prestigieous PRs to please the shareholders
Healthcare system? I almost got paralized because of incompetent doctors, and also due to the fact that so many people are abusing the system and get notes from doctors to get sick days off, that when you have something that is other than "standard" problems, especially if your symptoms fits in the "standard", you face a serious nightmare because they won't push it, to save cost due to abuse. When you have to PAY for something, you get a lot less abusing. There's not a perfect solution. Oh and if you keep the same system and charge a low fee per use, you'll get those people on wealthfare screaming "injustice" so you never win.
You don't have to buy the card right now and pay a premium just to get FSAA as the only feature you can play with *NOW*.
:) ).
You don't need to buy the latest CPU neither, i.e. paying 300-400$more for only a few 100mhz's more.
Thing is, that will drive the price of the GTS ultra or GTS 64MB DDR down, which can be used right now for gaming, in a year or more from now the geforce3 will have come down in price (decent gaming board) and will support the games out by then.
Oh one last thing, there's not only GAMING in the world, that card competes with the big-ass 3D accelerators for CAD/3D modeling/3D animating.... why would I shell out 2000$+ if a Quadro3 (probably) will cost me 1000$ (or better yet, 500$ plus modification like with the Gforce2
That thing must scream in lightwave.
J C will receive an injunction for Quake from Quaker oatmeal ;)
Huh.... is it related to This?
Since 1995, the only thing I heard about new amiga stuff was "in project" "in work" "soon to be released" "this" "that". 99% of the stuff never got out, (and I am not only talking about Jim Drew's SNES/GENESIS/etc emulator on the emplant board, hehe, I am talking about viscorp, gateway, escom, side projects...
:)
The only thing that came out since 6 years that is tangible is the SDK. And I might be a moron, but I hate it.
God Gimme a an accelerator with a 68100-600mhz with 680x0 emulation, with a GeForce2GTS as graphic chip, DDR266 ram expantion, with cybergraphics support, Ethernet... all this in my A1200, and NOW you'll have your killer machine!
actually the 68100 doesn't exist but you could do the same with a G4.
The more I think of it the more I like it, imagine with all the ports behind a 1200, add firewire, video capture, scsi, yikes, I am drooling. I should stop
Dude, as much as I love my amiga, you sound sooo biased that it makes you look lame. "most PC 3D games are rather slow" Err... you still using that matrox millenium card?
Amiga is superior for 2D gaming, well depends, I didn't see any starcraft or Red Alert or the newest incarnation of Worms. So it's a matter of taste... if you mean "2D arcade games" now you're getting more specific and I'll totally agree, project-X on PC sucked bad, the "feeling" isn't the same, the sprites looks "solid" on amiga while on PC most 2D games have that "post-it"-sprite-look over a background.
Just my 1.5cents.
You play a multiplayer game with 20 people at the same time, how the HECK are you supposed to crunch the data enough so you can send position/movement/expression/ammos location/chat/yadi yada at at least 10 intervals per second in a 2.0K/sec connection? it's just a physical barrier, compression? extra loads of processing power? c'mon...
:) ) Point is, even if you'd optimise and crunch and this and that, at some point you'd have to accept the fact that your hardware was limited and you needed UPGRADE.
.plan updates about optimizing the network data even more (motion prediction algorythms)
:)
It's like saying, I want to be able to have 20 bots in Q3A on my celeron 300A, at some point you can't do anything about it, unless of course you concentrate a shitload of ressource to optimise the code even more, but then again you miss shipping date and you'll probably miss the "low system requirement is unlimited" target too.
I remember when I was on my 300 bauds modem, and I was downloading games on my C64 40 minutes to download something like 200 blocks.. while I could do it tons faster with a 1200 bauds. Of course when I arrived on PC with my 2400 bauds I've learned some protocols were faster than some others (well on C64 you had what, Punter and X-modem?
I'm sure game developpers aren't stupid enough to not try to crunch the most data possible so dialups can enjoy as much as possible. You want to get the most people to buy your game no? Look at Q3A for example, I remember some
I don't want to piss people off by saying that, but take for example doom 3, it'll run on a tnt-2 (poorly and slowly) if I recall what John said, and if you want to have the full featured effects and jaw-dropping graphics, you'll need a GF3, same goes for network, you *CAN'T* have broadband playability (i.e. 20 people at the same time) on a non-broadband connection. Live with it, or upgrade, if you can't, well, play with less people, it's still manageable, if you claim you're stucked on 3 players with your 28K8, how about upgrading it to 56K for a start... else you sound like someone complaining that pages load slowly on 14k4...