This is a double edged sword, though. I tried to apt-get one package (using dselect) and it ended up download something like 80 MB worth of packages, after which the system didn't work properly (X server wouldn't start, when I finally got it to work, KDE was giving all kinds of error messages, gnome wouldn't run). I had to reinstall from scratch. Probably my fault for not learning apt properly... And I should mention I've had similar problems with Red Hat Network, so it's not only a Debian problem.
However, overall Debian has a lot of good points and I enjoyed using it, and I will probably give it another try sometime in the future, or even Libranet, it sounds interesting.
The disk requierments, though, can in the long run be larger for native code apps. The VMs have a lot of common tools (i.e. all of the java.* classes) available for any app that needs them
The Java VM is a fixed size, containing all libraries. The native-compiled program will only need the libraries it needs, it is very unlikely to require every single library, so therefor would be smaller than the Java bytecode plus complete VM.
The program used in the benchmarks was very simplistic.. I would rather have seen a program creating and destroying many objects of various sizes. In the nativly compiled version, how does garbage collection work? Is it possible to write AWT apps? Swing?
What's the point of taking a language that jumps through hoops to be "cross-platform" and cutting it's legs off?
Huh? You still have the Java source.. You can compile it to a native executable for whatever platform you need, or compile it to Java bytecode. Obviously, compiling to a native executable is not applicable for applets served from websites, sending objects over the network, or Remote Method Invocation (RMI). The point of the article is that if you have a large, slow Java application, you can compile to run natively on a given platform to increase it's speed and reduce the disk and memory requirements.
Actually, nothing beats VHS for recording large amounts of video data, such as from a security system. I installed a special VRC at work which records 48 cameras and can store over 24 hours on one tape. (it only records when there is motion on any given camera, and about 2 frames per second at that).
SQL Server has a transaction log that if not properly maintained (reduced) will quickly exceed the actual size of the data in the database. I will say that a transaction log and the ability to undo a major screw up or crash would be nice, but how much hard drive space will be consumed to have that functionality?
Every version of Windows was always designed for hardware that didn't exist yet, or the current hardware was not quite fast enough. In 5 years time, disk space will probably not be the issue that it is today, so maybe it is feasable.
Updating constantly is also dangerous.. I toasted my Debian system doing an update from the "Testing" branch, which is something I had been doing every day with no problems for several weeks. I'm not familiar with Mandrake, is the cooker equivelent to Debian's testing branch (basically all the latest cutting-edge software).
I don't blame Debian for my problems, updating from the Testing branch is bound to cause problems sooner or later, and I should have spent more time learning how to use apt properly.
The fact that it notes that you can help your friends setup Linux from remotely also frightens me.
It won't be wide open like certain MS products, surely it will require the root password to do any admin work, preferably over a secure connection. I've never used it myself, though. However, I've often had to connect too newbie friends Linux systems to fix stuff, so this feature sounds cool, although a bash prompt is really all you need.
That's actually a very cool idea.. You could even mount a UPS at the bottom if you needed to wheel across the room for a minute... Of course a laptop would probably do the same job.
Anyway, I can see the ads now: The new Lazy-Boy Reclining Workstation!
What is the point of this? Why not just bolt your case to the bottom of any metal table? I really don't see the point of having a glass top so you can see the mobo, if there was a screen under neath, I could see it, but those kinds of desks have been around a while (usually used for kiosks).
You make some good points, and I do remember what a pain it was to install an OS with no browser. But installing Netscape by default? Have to used Netscape recently? The current version is a total piece of crap. Opera or any number of other browsers are better.
Of course, AOL owns Netscape, so fat chance of them pushing a third party browser.
, and Red Hat will become whatever AOL wants it to become.
This is truly the scary part of all this. I'm sure glad I didn't sign up for the Red Hat Certified Engineer program as I had intended to do this month.
Don't forget that Red Hat based distrubutions such as Mandrake could be seriously affected by this. When AOL starts adding proprietary, closed source components to Red Hat Linux, other companies might be unable to use it as a base for their own distributions.
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Since they are building on an existing GPL product, don't they have to provide at least source code, if not the whole thing for free?
However, overall Debian has a lot of good points and I enjoyed using it, and I will probably give it another try sometime in the future, or even Libranet, it sounds interesting.
The Java VM is a fixed size, containing all libraries. The native-compiled program will only need the libraries it needs, it is very unlikely to require every single library, so therefor would be smaller than the Java bytecode plus complete VM.
The program used in the benchmarks was very simplistic .. I would rather have seen a program creating and destroying many objects of various sizes. In the nativly compiled version, how does garbage collection work? Is it possible to write AWT apps? Swing?
Huh? You still have the Java source
Yeah, but still, how much disk space would you need to record this digitally?
Actually, nothing beats VHS for recording large amounts of video data, such as from a security system. I installed a special VRC at work which records 48 cameras and can store over 24 hours on one tape. (it only records when there is motion on any given camera, and about 2 frames per second at that).
Thanks, that was the first time I laughed out loud reading slashdot in quite a while .. Nice post!
Every version of Windows was always designed for hardware that didn't exist yet, or the current hardware was not quite fast enough. In 5 years time, disk space will probably not be the issue that it is today, so maybe it is feasable.
It seems likely that a windows system with a RDMS file system would have a boot partition formated as FAT32.
I don't blame Debian for my problems, updating from the Testing branch is bound to cause problems sooner or later, and I should have spent more time learning how to use apt properly.
Red Hat Network completely toasted my Red Hat 7.0 system .. Has it improved recently? Is Mandrake's better?
As far as cell phone coverage and hi-speed internet is concerned, Canada is way ahead of the U.S. Both in price and availability.
And succeeding, too.
It won't be wide open like certain MS products, surely it will require the root password to do any admin work, preferably over a secure connection. I've never used it myself, though. However, I've often had to connect too newbie friends Linux systems to fix stuff, so this feature sounds cool, although a bash prompt is really all you need.
Anyway, I can see the ads now: The new Lazy-Boy Reclining Workstation!
What is the point of this? Why not just bolt your case to the bottom of any metal table? I really don't see the point of having a glass top so you can see the mobo, if there was a screen under neath, I could see it, but those kinds of desks have been around a while (usually used for kiosks).
Even though it's called a "Time Machine", it won't work on live telivision.
It's something in the eyes .. just doesn't look right! ;-)
The scariest thing is his girlfriends dog .. that mutt looks damn right evil!!
Of course, AOL owns Netscape, so fat chance of them pushing a third party browser.
Actually, I could use them as coasters in my living room. That would make a cool conversation piece!
This is truly the scary part of all this. I'm sure glad I didn't sign up for the Red Hat Certified Engineer program as I had intended to do this month.
Don't forget that Red Hat based distrubutions such as Mandrake could be seriously affected by this. When AOL starts adding proprietary, closed source components to Red Hat Linux, other companies might be unable to use it as a base for their own distributions.
Yeah, if Red Hat starts to suck, I can always run Debian!