Except most users don't know what Usenet is. I would guess that the bandwidth used by the news server would far outweigh what users would use downloading the same stuff elsewhere. And since it's only a small segment of an ISP's customers who uses Usenet, it's not going to piss off too many of their customers if they discontinue it all together.
Several years ago I was a fan of Usenet (for conversations and getting information, not download binaries), but it's been ruined by the spammers. I havn't used it in quite some time now.
Yes, I agree.. We have been using Linux for non-mission critical stuff for over a year, and are starting to rely on it more and more. Currently we use it for the Samba file server (repository of install CD's, not users personal stuff yet), print server (a few printers only), and Internet gateway/squid proxy/firewall, and our helpdesk software (PHP Helpdesk, shameless plug, I'm a developer on that project). So far we have had no problems whatsoever. But as a long time Linux advocate, I would not recomend to the bosses to install it on users desktops just yet.
Yes, I got the same impression, the article reads like a high schoole creative writing assignment. In any case, it's nice to hear FUD working *against* Microsoft for a change!!
Because of its long-term horizon, the NOW development efforts often took a back seat to the needs of other projects. Most new hires came in to work on projects that had the potential to bring in revenue sooner than
NOW.
They want revenue sooner than now? Wow, talk about impatient!! They want revenue Yesterday!!
There are some obvious problems with this.. Single point of failure, for one... If one instance of Windows crashes, how easy is it to re-install without affecting the other users? If it is possible, the server would probably slow to a crawl during the install. Also, one server can only support a limited amount of workstations, since each server is running a complete Windows OS and applications in sepeperate VMWare partitions. You are still required to buy licenses for each instance of Windows and Office that is running, so you are only saving money on hardware (and support costs, I suppose). Thirdly, how stable is VMWare? Can it really do this realistically? (I've never used it). Also, can all those VMWare instances share the same Ethernet connection?
Four mini-Microsofts? With the recent advances in cloning and stem-cell reaserch, and the money Bill Gates has, he could make 4 clones of himself to run the 4 new companies. He could have 4 mini-me's to run the mini-microsofts!! We should start calling him Dr. Evil.
If you had kids, it would mean that you had sex, or adopted. An adaption agency would sooner adopt to Michael Jackson than you, so stop living in your fantasy world and accept it that you'll never get laid.
Maybe you missed the part of my post where I mentioned I'm married??
(Of course, that's no gaurantee of sex either)
It's illegal to leave a kid unattented in a car in some areas, especially in the summer.. They can die from the heat.
Anyway, if I had kids, I would give them their own Windows 98 or ME machine which they can learn with. I don't know how old your kids are, but I would have nightmares of them sticking a peanut-butter and jam sandwhich in the CD ROM drive. Sheesh, I barely let my wife use my main computer (the best thing about Windows 2000: Restricted Users!)
VMware GSX Server is an enterprise-level product and is priced accordingly. The electronic distribution, which can be downloaded from VMware's Web site, costs $2,499, and a packaged version including documentation costs about $50 more. VMware's Workstation product, designed for individual users, is available for $299 and offers much of the same functionality
At those prices I think it would be cheaper to buy a second low-end machine.
Visual Studio would belong to the application side, so that other compilers can compete on a level playing field.
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I've never seen a network with DHCP and DNS configured to do this (and I've been lots of places with DHCP).
Agreed, it is not and often used feature, probably for security reasons.
if your firewall is configured "properly", then all traffic can pass through it in both directions
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the firewall? Besides some sanity checks, firewalls are designed to block the flow of data to unwanted hosts and/or ports.
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I haven't noticed this problem. Probably because the DHCP server likes to give the same IP address to each machine all the time, which is a good thing if the clients are caching DNS information.
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DHCP and NAT arguably broke DNS and prevented people from running traditional server processes on their boxen so we created P2P software
This is not true, if DHCP and DNS is configured properly, the client can update the DNS server, so the DNS server is kept up to date.
I'm usually a guy who's bashing Windows, but I have to argue your point. Windows 95/2000 have excellent GUI's. I find them more consistant and faster than any Unix ones I've tried. Windows also has excellent keyboad mappings which I use heavily. For example, Alt-F4 = close window, F1 = help, Winkey-M = minimize all windows, ALT = switch focus to menubar, ALT-TAB & ALT-SHIFT-TAB cycle windows (I don't recall seeing a Unix desktop which responded to ALT-SHIFT-TAB as well as ALT-TAB). Even using text widgets, I like to use the home and end keys, hold shift for selecting text, press CTL-A to select all, or CTRL-SHIFT-END to select to the end of the text, etc. Once you are used to all this it's hard to go to a window manager that doesn't support it, or has different key bindings. Oh, and the mouse wheel only works on some widget-sets in Unix which is a pain.
To me this doesn't seem all that bad... Worse case scenario is @home sells off portions of itself, and now your dealing with a much smaller ISP who just leases their bandwidth. Suddenly you've got decent customer service, which currently is non-existant anywhere with @home. (trust me, it took them 9 days to fix a router problem that wouldn't let me connect to anything -- A smaller ISP couldn't do any worse)
Seriously, have you ever worked at a brick and mortar? 9 times out of a 10 IT is synonymous with asshole, and that's exactly how you're treated
This is so true. At my present employer IT is viewed as a necessary evil. They would get rid of us all in a hearbeat if they thought they could. Forklift drivers in the warehouse get treated better than IT around here.... Suffice to say I'm passing my resume to anyone who'll take the time to read it!! However, I too am finding that IT jobs seem to be more scarce then they have been in the last 10 years.
Or open source, where you release your product when it is done, not according to an arbitrary schedule.
I dunno, but I sure spend a lot of time waiting for various windows machines to boot.
Several years ago I was a fan of Usenet (for conversations and getting information, not download binaries), but it's been ruined by the spammers. I havn't used it in quite some time now.
I mean anti-microsoft FUD *outside* of Slashdot!!
Sounds kinda like he's trying to get down her pants!!!
Yes, I agree.. We have been using Linux for non-mission critical stuff for over a year, and are starting to rely on it more and more. Currently we use it for the Samba file server (repository of install CD's, not users personal stuff yet), print server (a few printers only), and Internet gateway/squid proxy/firewall, and our helpdesk software (PHP Helpdesk, shameless plug, I'm a developer on that project). So far we have had no problems whatsoever. But as a long time Linux advocate, I would not recomend to the bosses to install it on users desktops just yet.
Yes, I got the same impression, the article reads like a high schoole creative writing assignment. In any case, it's nice to hear FUD working *against* Microsoft for a change!!
NOW.
They want revenue sooner than now? Wow, talk about impatient!! They want revenue Yesterday!!
Very interesting! Thanks for replying.
There are some obvious problems with this.. Single point of failure, for one ... If one instance of Windows crashes, how easy is it to re-install without affecting the other users? If it is possible, the server would probably slow to a crawl during the install. Also, one server can only support a limited amount of workstations, since each server is running a complete Windows OS and applications in sepeperate VMWare partitions. You are still required to buy licenses for each instance of Windows and Office that is running, so you are only saving money on hardware (and support costs, I suppose). Thirdly, how stable is VMWare? Can it really do this realistically? (I've never used it). Also, can all those VMWare instances share the same Ethernet connection?
Four mini-Microsofts? With the recent advances in cloning and stem-cell reaserch, and the money Bill Gates has, he could make 4 clones of himself to run the 4 new companies. He could have 4 mini-me's to run the mini-microsofts!! We should start calling him Dr. Evil.
ARRRRGGHH!!! The plural of LEGO is LEGO. NOT LEGOS!!!
Maybe you missed the part of my post where I mentioned I'm married??
(Of course, that's no gaurantee of sex either)
I don't understand, how could you upgrade all the users PC's with upgrades for Office? Why not install PC Anywhere or Netmeeting on those PC's?
Anyway, if I had kids, I would give them their own Windows 98 or ME machine which they can learn with. I don't know how old your kids are, but I would have nightmares of them sticking a peanut-butter and jam sandwhich in the CD ROM drive. Sheesh, I barely let my wife use my main computer (the best thing about Windows 2000: Restricted Users!)
VMware GSX Server is an enterprise-level product and is priced accordingly. The electronic distribution, which can be downloaded from VMware's Web site, costs $2,499, and a packaged version including documentation costs about $50 more. VMware's Workstation product, designed for individual users, is available for $299 and offers much of the same functionality
At those prices I think it would be cheaper to buy a second low-end machine.
Uh oh, he's yelling my name again, gotta run!!
Visual Studio would belong to the application side, so that other compilers can compete on a level playing field.
Agreed, it is not and often used feature, probably for security reasons.
if your firewall is configured "properly", then all traffic can pass through it in both directions
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the firewall? Besides some sanity checks, firewalls are designed to block the flow of data to unwanted hosts and/or ports.
I haven't noticed this problem. Probably because the DHCP server likes to give the same IP address to each machine all the time, which is a good thing if the clients are caching DNS information.
This is not true, if DHCP and DNS is configured properly, the client can update the DNS server, so the DNS server is kept up to date.
NAT is a different story, though.
I'm pretty sure ALT+[Any F Key] changes desktops ... (Don't know about KDE.)
I'm usually a guy who's bashing Windows, but I have to argue your point. Windows 95/2000 have excellent GUI's. I find them more consistant and faster than any Unix ones I've tried. Windows also has excellent keyboad mappings which I use heavily. For example, Alt-F4 = close window, F1 = help, Winkey-M = minimize all windows, ALT = switch focus to menubar, ALT-TAB & ALT-SHIFT-TAB cycle windows (I don't recall seeing a Unix desktop which responded to ALT-SHIFT-TAB as well as ALT-TAB). Even using text widgets, I like to use the home and end keys, hold shift for selecting text, press CTL-A to select all, or CTRL-SHIFT-END to select to the end of the text, etc. Once you are used to all this it's hard to go to a window manager that doesn't support it, or has different key bindings. Oh, and the mouse wheel only works on some widget-sets in Unix which is a pain.
To me this doesn't seem all that bad ... Worse case scenario is @home sells off portions of itself, and now your dealing with a much smaller ISP who just leases their bandwidth. Suddenly you've got decent customer service, which currently is non-existant anywhere with @home. (trust me, it took them 9 days to fix a router problem that wouldn't let me connect to anything -- A smaller ISP couldn't do any worse)
This is so true. At my present employer IT is viewed as a necessary evil. They would get rid of us all in a hearbeat if they thought they could. Forklift drivers in the warehouse get treated better than IT around here.