It seems odd that it has already been established that for some reason, a reaction occurs with the testing methods he has set forth. Yet, NASA won't follow up on that, nor his revised test?
Seems to me life or not he found/something/ that caused that recation there, and that perhaps it is a matter of thinking that all life in the universe has to be life as we know it and understand it. He may have found something else nearly as important, but unfortunately we may not know for a long time if ever. Is it really any mystery that we have not been contacted by any other life out there when we base not only our evolution on silly pieces of metal, but our actions towards our fellow human beings as well. I mean what kind of scientist looks over the data from a reaction like that and says, "eh scrap it" because the other tests failed. What kind of scientist does not want to find out/WHY/ it happened? Our knowledge of our planet and the great expanses beyond it are pathetic, and until we get off our high horses and stop fussing over a damn chunk of metal(Gold) we might find ourselves stuck in Science Fiction and not moving forward much at all if at all.
He is more a scientist than all of NASA together as he questions and searches for answers in the name of knowledge, rather than in the name of himself and his bank account.
You have no legal right at all to enter my house as you can clearly see I run stable OSes based on Open Source code. *Hides the pirate M$ CDs*
Sorry about that Mr. M$ Rat, I am sure you were thought you were going to have an oppurtunity to try and force me to pay bloated prices for your buggy barely functional 'software.' Tux sends his regards!
*Slams door shut in face of M$ Rat and heads back to reinstall Winblowz on M$ compiler machines and restore backed up data*
-My thoughts on M$ trying to nail me for piracy.
First you got to get into my house, but by then
this is what they would find happening.
It's nice in theory, but that's where it needs to stay.
I think this would again be putting too much power and control into a singular entity. It could also lead to very bad things for code in general as new precedents are laid down and new decisions and laws are based on them. This might be down the road where all programmers have to be registered with some major organization etc etc.
Inevitably there would also be ways to spoof and fake things eventually which would only leave the permanent effects of the aftermath of court, government, and big business involvement.
Tell the "regular" staff to try learning to read, get a book and join the techies and enjoy the perks too. If they choose not to, let them wallow in the ignorance of their beast of burden existence. If they keep complaining, raise the cost of bitching to one tooth per bitch.
-Violence solves everything, and what it doesn't just needs more extreme and cruel violence.
Oddly enough, it was a schmuck like you that started the stereotyping of people,places, and things.
If you are truly that pathetic and lazy and cannot even get yourself a life, don't stereotype YOUR morals and work ethics upon everybody else.
1.
If you have somebody to manage your ITs and they cannot understand the first technical thing that is said to them, fire that useless bastard.
2.
If control and monitoring are such a vital issue, have mandatory company network logon times to start work, monitor changes in files, and all other activities that makes people in charge feel like they really are important.
3.
Provide the tools or access to them at home that they have at the workplace. (This does not include coffee)
4.
Chart and progress work to show accomplishments, send status reports, make the work you accomplish known.
5.
Push the environmental holocaust we are causing by needless drives, wasted paper, and any other angle you can use.
The money saved alone from firing micromanagement middlefools and most management in general would afford a company enough to either fatten their pockets or increase employee loyalty. If you find your work at home employee not performing up to par, fire them just as you would if they were in the office. I would also tend to agree with a statement I read from another reply, I would be more inclined to work if I were at home relaxed, comfortable, and not harrassed and pestered by sales,management,and an ever ringing phone. I would not be pressed to get out of the office to escape office politics and other BS, and thus would not want to walk away so fast from code I am working on. I consider myself an average guy, not too greedy, and I think M-F workweeks should be a standard, vacations should consist of more than 10 days out of 365, a decent salary, and a boss to answer to that understands what I am trying to explain regarding the code and the impact from it.
Nuff said, rather than bitching about it I am going to make it happen. Always some job for an IT in some big city somewhere, consulting or other.
It almost seems to me that in their rush to demand and lay down more broad laws and the potential for broad laws that several people are about to be stereotyped. Instead of starting down the road of actual bans of software, why not try to keep a majority of the problem from having access to the software or source? Have the source still be legal and the software still be legal but require knowledge testing to get gain access to it. The last time this nation adopted a philosophy of blind stereotypes to solve a problem we ended up fighting a bitter civil war that has left scars to this day.
If the corporate world cannot fix or patch the glaring security flaws in their software then maybe that software should not be used so seriously or taken seriously when it is comprimised. Obviously somebody else does not take that software seriously or else they would strive for secure and stable software. Major corporations and even the government should be giving thanks to the security industry instead of trying to bury them. By banning an entire community of geeks from making things better, you will be opening your system/software to the full attack of the people with the knowledge and malicious habits.
No matter what happens, somebody will come up with cracks and hacks, and those that have the knowledge and information who are responsible will then in turn find themselves taking more heat for the malicious. Who knows with the growing trend of removing freedoms and liberties in America...we just might find ourselves posting on new site that has been deemed worthy about how wonderful the new local hacker/cracker concentration camp is.
Who sue you foo?
It is better to have lived and sued, than to have lived and not sue at all.
I will gladly pay you next lifetime for the lawsuit you will file against me today!
The most common question when something like this happens should be, where were the parents? Where in that child's childhood did they not have the love and nuturing they needed? Who was giving guidance and support when they were hurting?
The parents were probably both at work trying to provide some level of a decent life for themselves and their children. The single working parent is a rare and endangered species not just because of how hard it is to make decent income in America, but also because they leave society to rear their children and guide them. Remeber also that the government has made it very difficult to punish children, spank a child for doing something horrible and you may end up a criminal. Those who grew up in a single parent home lacked the guidance needed from the missing counterpart, grew up with no father or no mother and the one parent of course having to work as hard as they can to provide food, shelter, and clothing. Again, this leaves society to rear their child and instill upon them all the values and morales they will need to be a healthy well adjusted human being.
Where were the politicians when all of this was happening? What did the politicians do to try and combat this ever growing American trend? Were they giving more funds to the building of prisons and law enforcement agencies so more people could be sent to prison for petty things and learn what it is really like to be cruel and teach THEIR children those values? Were they voting themselves raises instead of trying to come up with a solution to the amazing lack of parenting taking place? They were pointing fingers at something else, focusing on a different scapegoat.
Why do these kids have all this unsupervised access to the net? They do not have a parent home with them to guide them and teach them. Nobody to help them work through the numerous problems of growing up in today's society. Nobody to teach them how to PROPERLY deal with their anger, how to deal with stressful situations. Where were the faculty when these children were be victimized by bullies removing the feeling of safety from school for the victim?
Instead of trying to shoot blindly in the dark and pin blame on what is the bandwagon cause of all problems in America, maybe the politicians should try curbing the media who makes the biggest deal of all over such unfortunate things like Columbine. They EXPLOIT the suffering of others to broadcast an uncensored message to America that they can be noticed and heard like that. Look back at an earlier time in American history when you always had a parent home to guide and rear children and one parent working could make enough to support a family. In a day when family values were valued, you just were simply not plagued by problems like these, and keep in mind that things were not kept under such a tight and intense watch back then.
"Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to repeat it."
Sounds like somebody was born with a silver spoon in their mouth and doesn't know what its like to be HUNGRY AS HELL and totally BROKE. Also I think in the process of hiding under your Mommy's skirt you have never enjoyed the pleasure of getting totally SCREWED OVER. Also, I don't think you understand what it's like TRYING to start your own company because it sounds like everything was handed to you.
Here is Business 210 for you, a HAPPY employee is a PRODUCTIVE employee and LOYAL employee. Which means you are not wasting time with constant turnovers and training. No job is "cush" but you don't have to shit on people to get the most out of them.
Wake the fuck up you spoiled brat, there are more of us that have to STRUGGLE for all we have and we won't hesitate to put your sorry spoiled baby-powdered ass in check.
I'm a rookie C programmer with just a year of experience under my belt. I may not have done much time in the industry yet but I can speak from experience that many companies do indeed take advantage of their employees. This is a given fact, more power is more corruption. I have other programmer friends who have been in the business longer than I have and they verify this by telling me about their workplace.
My workplace is a complete nightmare that sometimes makes places like concentration camps look like a ballet dance through tulips. My manager is totally technically ignorant, yet he is the one deciding on time frames and which issues he thinks are critical that I will be addressing for the day. If I try to explain to him that I am tracking down a bug that is causing array violations and writing past the buffer all over a binary data set, he will look at me like a deer staring at headlights. How can you manage something you cannot understand or relate to? I do not think you can, you cannot make an informed decision because you cannot understand the information!
Given that the joke known as minimum wage is just barely enough for a person to live in a box and buy used gum, sometimes you have no choice but to allow yourself to get screwed. To work those extra 16 hours without pay, yet allow the company to deduct a full day's pay from your SALARIED paycheck because you caught a flu that went around the office and called in for a day because people were so scared to call in themselves. Failure to roll over on any issue pursued by your employer IS grounds for termination. But as long as you need to pay those bills and have decent food to eat you tolerate your daily torture as best possible all for that cruel insult every other Thursday.
In my opinion, if you cannot understand that which you try to manage you are in the wrong business. If you cannot understand the benefits of employee morale and the loyalty it can bring and all the benefits from that, you deserve anything bad that happens to you and your company. Work would be a great deal easier if the people holding root access and writing the code that makes things go were not treated like indentured servants.
Politicians should pay a $1 liars fee to each and every single person their lies affect. This way people lied to by a politician know that at least it cost THEM for a change. Then we can start metering verbal speech, by the word of course for those whom don't speak much...
Just like security, privacy is an illusion we like to imagine so that we can have our comfort zone. I know that if you do not want general users to find or get in a channel you are in that you want secured, they have modes you can set on the channel leaving the channel invisible and/or locked out to all...except the All Seeing IRCop and chosen few.
The real problem I would see with these scanbots as a mere IRC user, would be IRC becoming a haven for AO-Smell like morons bored with their silly little AO-Smell like rooms. It was bad enough when the floodgates of idiocy were opened up and they infested IRC.
When you simplify something, you attract simpletons.
Does not surprise me, take a look back at some more liberties that Americans used to have. I am sure in time they will even organize a little gestapo to follow up on their calls. Perhaps some day Americans will look back and read the Constitution and remember why exactly this country was founded. Maybe even start to see and say, "Hey, I remember when you used to be able to do that." As for the little WAVE project, give my regards to Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler and all the other overbearing tyrants who desired to take away individuality and freedom from humans.
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It seems odd that it has already been established that for some reason, a reaction occurs with the testing methods he has set forth. Yet, NASA won't follow up on that, nor his revised test?
/something/ that caused that recation there, and that perhaps it is a matter of thinking that all life in the universe has to be life as we know it and understand it. He may have found something else nearly as important, but unfortunately we may not know for a long time if ever. Is it really any mystery that we have not been contacted by any other life out there when we base not only our evolution on silly pieces of metal, but our actions towards our fellow human beings as well. I mean what kind of scientist looks over the data from a reaction like that and says, "eh scrap it" because the other tests failed. What kind of scientist does not want to find out /WHY/ it happened? Our knowledge of our planet and the great expanses beyond it are pathetic, and until we get off our high horses and stop fussing over a damn chunk of metal(Gold) we might find ourselves stuck in Science Fiction and not moving forward much at all if at all.
Seems to me life or not he found
He is more a scientist than all of NASA together as he questions and searches for answers in the name of knowledge, rather than in the name of himself and his bank account.
You have no legal right at all to enter my house as you can clearly see I run stable OSes based on Open Source code. *Hides the pirate M$ CDs*
Sorry about that Mr. M$ Rat, I am sure you were thought you were going to have an oppurtunity to try and force me to pay bloated prices for your buggy barely functional 'software.' Tux sends his regards!
*Slams door shut in face of M$ Rat and heads back to reinstall Winblowz on M$ compiler machines and restore backed up data*
-My thoughts on M$ trying to nail me for piracy.
First you got to get into my house, but by then
this is what they would find happening.
Lawyer or not at least somebody is being hired to /protect/ privacy instead of sell and/or invade it.
Maybe this can start a new trend in the private direction in the once private world of privacy.
Sorry to hear this...
What about any suitable replacements or releasing of the source?
It's nice in theory, but that's where it needs to stay.
I think this would again be putting too much power and control into a singular entity. It could also lead to very bad things for code in general as new precedents are laid down and new decisions and laws are based on them. This might be down the road where all programmers have to be registered with some major organization etc etc.
Inevitably there would also be ways to spoof and fake things eventually which would only leave the permanent effects of the aftermath of court, government, and big business involvement.
Tell the "regular" staff to try learning to read, get a book and join the techies and enjoy the perks too. If they choose not to, let them wallow in the ignorance of their beast of burden existence. If they keep complaining, raise the cost of bitching to one tooth per bitch. -Violence solves everything, and what it doesn't just needs more extreme and cruel violence.
Oddly enough, it was a schmuck like you that started the stereotyping of people,places, and things. If you are truly that pathetic and lazy and cannot even get yourself a life, don't stereotype YOUR morals and work ethics upon everybody else.
1.
If you have somebody to manage your ITs and they cannot understand the first technical thing that is said to them, fire that useless bastard.
2.
If control and monitoring are such a vital issue, have mandatory company network logon times to start work, monitor changes in files, and all other activities that makes people in charge feel like they really are important.
3.
Provide the tools or access to them at home that they have at the workplace. (This does not include coffee)
4.
Chart and progress work to show accomplishments, send status reports, make the work you accomplish known.
5.
Push the environmental holocaust we are causing by needless drives, wasted paper, and any other angle you can use.
The money saved alone from firing micromanagement middlefools and most management in general would afford a company enough to either fatten their pockets or increase employee loyalty. If you find your work at home employee not performing up to par, fire them just as you would if they were in the office. I would also tend to agree with a statement I read from another reply, I would be more inclined to work if I were at home relaxed, comfortable, and not harrassed and pestered by sales,management,and an ever ringing phone. I would not be pressed to get out of the office to escape office politics and other BS, and thus would not want to walk away so fast from code I am working on. I consider myself an average guy, not too greedy, and I think M-F workweeks should be a standard, vacations should consist of more than 10 days out of 365, a decent salary, and a boss to answer to that understands what I am trying to explain regarding the code and the impact from it.
Nuff said, rather than bitching about it I am going to make it happen. Always some job for an IT in some big city somewhere, consulting or other.
It almost seems to me that in their rush to demand and lay down more broad laws and the potential for broad laws that several people are about to be stereotyped. Instead of starting down the road of actual bans of software, why not try to keep a majority of the problem from having access to the software or source? Have the source still be legal and the software still be legal but require knowledge testing to get gain access to it. The last time this nation adopted a philosophy of blind stereotypes to solve a problem we ended up fighting a bitter civil war that has left scars to this day.
If the corporate world cannot fix or patch the glaring security flaws in their software then maybe that software should not be used so seriously or taken seriously when it is comprimised. Obviously somebody else does not take that software seriously or else they would strive for secure and stable software. Major corporations and even the government should be giving thanks to the security industry instead of trying to bury them. By banning an entire community of geeks from making things better, you will be opening your system/software to the full attack of the people with the knowledge and malicious habits.
No matter what happens, somebody will come up with cracks and hacks, and those that have the knowledge and information who are responsible will then in turn find themselves taking more heat for the malicious. Who knows with the growing trend of removing freedoms and liberties in America...we just might find ourselves posting on new site that has been deemed worthy about how wonderful the new local hacker/cracker concentration camp is.
Who sue you foo? It is better to have lived and sued, than to have lived and not sue at all. I will gladly pay you next lifetime for the lawsuit you will file against me today!
The most common question when something like this happens should be, where were the parents? Where in that child's childhood did they not have the love and nuturing they needed? Who was giving guidance and support when they were hurting?
The parents were probably both at work trying to provide some level of a decent life for themselves and their children. The single working parent is a rare and endangered species not just because of how hard it is to make decent income in America, but also because they leave society to rear their children and guide them. Remeber also that the government has made it very difficult to punish children, spank a child for doing something horrible and you may end up a criminal. Those who grew up in a single parent home lacked the guidance needed from the missing counterpart, grew up with no father or no mother and the one parent of course having to work as hard as they can to provide food, shelter, and clothing. Again, this leaves society to rear their child and instill upon them all the values and morales they will need to be a healthy well adjusted human being.
Where were the politicians when all of this was happening? What did the politicians do to try and combat this ever growing American trend? Were they giving more funds to the building of prisons and law enforcement agencies so more people could be sent to prison for petty things and learn what it is really like to be cruel and teach THEIR children those values? Were they voting themselves raises instead of trying to come up with a solution to the amazing lack of parenting taking place? They were pointing fingers at something else, focusing on a different scapegoat.
Why do these kids have all this unsupervised access to the net? They do not have a parent home with them to guide them and teach them. Nobody to help them work through the numerous problems of growing up in today's society. Nobody to teach them how to PROPERLY deal with their anger, how to deal with stressful situations. Where were the faculty when these children were be victimized by bullies removing the feeling of safety from school for the victim?
Instead of trying to shoot blindly in the dark and pin blame on what is the bandwagon cause of all problems in America, maybe the politicians should try curbing the media who makes the biggest deal of all over such unfortunate things like Columbine. They EXPLOIT the suffering of others to broadcast an uncensored message to America that they can be noticed and heard like that. Look back at an earlier time in American history when you always had a parent home to guide and rear children and one parent working could make enough to support a family. In a day when family values were valued, you just were simply not plagued by problems like these, and keep in mind that things were not kept under such a tight and intense watch back then.
"Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to repeat it."
Sounds like somebody was born with a silver spoon in their mouth and doesn't know what its like to be HUNGRY AS HELL and totally BROKE. Also I think in the process of hiding under your Mommy's skirt you have never enjoyed the pleasure of getting totally SCREWED OVER. Also, I don't think you understand what it's like TRYING to start your own company because it sounds like everything was handed to you. Here is Business 210 for you, a HAPPY employee is a PRODUCTIVE employee and LOYAL employee. Which means you are not wasting time with constant turnovers and training. No job is "cush" but you don't have to shit on people to get the most out of them. Wake the fuck up you spoiled brat, there are more of us that have to STRUGGLE for all we have and we won't hesitate to put your sorry spoiled baby-powdered ass in check.
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I'm a rookie C programmer with just a year of experience under my belt. I may not have done much time in the industry yet but I can speak from experience that many companies do indeed take advantage of their employees. This is a given fact, more power is more corruption. I have other programmer friends who have been in the business longer than I have and they verify this by telling me about their workplace.
My workplace is a complete nightmare that sometimes makes places like concentration camps look like a ballet dance through tulips. My manager is totally technically ignorant, yet he is the one deciding on time frames and which issues he thinks are critical that I will be addressing for the day. If I try to explain to him that I am tracking down a bug that is causing array violations and writing past the buffer all over a binary data set, he will look at me like a deer staring at headlights. How can you manage something you cannot understand or relate to? I do not think you can, you cannot make an informed decision because you cannot understand the information!
Given that the joke known as minimum wage is just barely enough for a person to live in a box and buy used gum, sometimes you have no choice but to allow yourself to get screwed. To work those extra 16 hours without pay, yet allow the company to deduct a full day's pay from your SALARIED paycheck because you caught a flu that went around the office and called in for a day because people were so scared to call in themselves. Failure to roll over on any issue pursued by your employer IS grounds for termination. But as long as you need to pay those bills and have decent food to eat you tolerate your daily torture as best possible all for that cruel insult every other Thursday.
In my opinion, if you cannot understand that which you try to manage you are in the wrong business. If you cannot understand the benefits of employee morale and the loyalty it can bring and all the benefits from that, you deserve anything bad that happens to you and your company. Work would be a great deal easier if the people holding root access and writing the code that makes things go were not treated like indentured servants.
Well then in that case...
Politicians should pay a $1 liars fee to each and every single person their lies affect. This way people lied to by a politician know that at least it cost THEM for a change. Then we can start metering verbal speech, by the word of course for those whom don't speak much...
Just like security, privacy is an illusion we like to imagine so that we can have our comfort zone. I know that if you do not want general users to find or get in a channel you are in that you want secured, they have modes you can set on the channel leaving the channel invisible and/or locked out to all...except the All Seeing IRCop and chosen few.
The real problem I would see with these scanbots as a mere IRC user, would be IRC becoming a haven for AO-Smell like morons bored with their silly little AO-Smell like rooms. It was bad enough when the floodgates of idiocy were opened up and they infested IRC.
When you simplify something, you attract simpletons.
Does not surprise me, take a look back at some more liberties that Americans used to have. I am sure in time they will even organize a little gestapo to follow up on their calls. Perhaps some day Americans will look back and read the Constitution and remember why exactly this country was founded. Maybe even start to see and say, "Hey, I remember when you used to be able to do that." As for the little WAVE project, give my regards to Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler and all the other overbearing tyrants who desired to take away individuality and freedom from humans.